Ill keep my old square body chevy. Maybe when the old 350 dies I will stuff a LS motor in it. But I love the old style squares.

Had an ‘86 6.2 3500 now have an ‘03 7.3 F350, your evaluation is spot on. Thanks for sharing your videos!

We have had all the ford motors. My favorite is the 6.0. Some people dog it, well most, but it's a fantastic motor once you understand it and fix the quirks. It's smooth with the bombproof automation transmission, plus it is the best sounding diesel ever made. My list of other ford motors from best to worst is 6.7, 7.3, 460, 6.4. You did good with that truck.

When that turbo kicks in. It makes night & day difference. . I always got 16-17 mpg with tools. 1999 2500 6.5 turbo

Awesome trucks. I have a 91 w250 12 valve cummins. Starts incredibly well in cold weather and is a work horse.

Great breakdown and for those two particular trucks I totally agree! As I've said before, where I live, rust is almost non existent. Still tons of second gen Cummins trucks and quite a few first gens aswell. Even so, there's a handful of Cummins swapped f-2 and 350's around, now that's a heck of a truck!

Awesome video tinman. I am trying to talk my wife into a super cab f350 from that era for firewood hauling. Very helpful.

The ford front end is what's called the twin- traction beam suspension. Basically the 4x4 version of the twin i beam. IIRC, the twin i beam and traction beam were discontinued in the 1/2 ton F series after '96, but still have them in the f250

I think they are both great trucks. The gm needs a couple of things like relocating the pmd. Put some slightly bigger injectors and it makes it a completely different truck with power closer to the powerstroke. The 12v is my favorite. Traded my last one at 560k and still ran amazing

Totally agree with your assessment. My first was a '93 f250 ext cab with the same rear axil. That zf5 is a rock solid transmission. Mine had over 250k on it before i had it rebuilt. If yours needs a rebuild, use South Bend parts. There's also an upgrade for the clutch pedal that involves installing a yolk. DO THAT UPGRADE. It replaces a plastic bushing. When mine went out, i was in the parking lot at work. I was lucky it didn't total somebody's vehicle. I routinely had north of 5,000 lbs in the bed. My primary reason for moving up to a 2000 f350 crew cab was that the kids needed more leg room. All in all, my '93 was a better work truck. It road rough unless you had at least 1,000 lbs in the bed. I've always loved the 6BT, but I hate the truck they put it in. When the 6.0 came out, a lot of guys were driving their new ford's straight from the dealership to the shop and swapping it for a 24 valve. Those guys are still driving those trucks.

Interesting. I have a 1993 gmc 3500 dually with the 6.5 turbo. It has its quirks. Mainly that it doesn’t like to start when it’s hot because the fuel vaporizes in the lines going from the fuel filter to the fuel pump. I have the nv4500, which, apparently, was built with synchros made of butter. Oh, and the starter bolts are dogs hit, so I replaced them with some decent ones and now it starts before the motor turns all the way over. With all of that said, the thing is bulletproof. It has the mechanical fuel pump (after 1994, they went computerized), which is nice cuz I understand it and can rebuild it relatively easily. Sure it’s gutless, and it takes 20 seconds to get to sixty. But it runs cool and gets 25 mpg on the freeway and 22 mpg on streets. It runs cool, ac blows colder than is comfortable, and if I need more power, I just turn a couple screws and it’s there (mechanical fuel pump and mechanical waste gate). Upgrades I did when I got the truck is a fluid damper hydraulic damper, some decent shocks, new starter with arp bolts, idler and pitman arms, and Michelins. She’s a sweet smelly oily old breezy but she’s mine and I can work on her without a computer.

Rear diff- Ford 10.25" Chevy 10.5" Front diff- Ford 9.0" Chevy 9.25 He mentioned the Chevy having a 8.25" front diff but those only came on the K1500s and light duty 6 lug K2500s.

I’ve owned more chevs than fords , they all have issues I was working in the far north in British Columbia , close to the Yukon . Winter time , minus fifty . 1990 , the crew all had diesel Fords , brand new . Plugged in they would barely start , plugged in . My old 76 Chevy sat for a week , my boss told me start that truck or you’ll be stuck here . I told him it’ll start no problem , so I went over opened the door reached in never touched the gas , not plugged in , as soon as I cranked her, boom she fired up Next year when I went back up north , the whole crew had new chevs .

Great video! I've owned several IFS GM trucks over the years. One '95 454 with an 8' plow that I sold to my grandfather and he still has it with 230k on it and the original ball joints and tie rods. Another '96 6.5 with a 9' plow and sold it with 186k and all original frontend. 2 duramax trucks and rebuilt the front end on one of them at 268k because of 1 balljoint stating to clunk. Maybe I've been lucky, but the IFS has been very good to me. Currently rocking a pair of Fords, a '97 7.3 and a '14 6.7. I love the 6.5 and with some upgrades, its a pretty good engine for light-duty stuff. 10k lbs of trailer or less. The 7.3 is a true "medium duty" engine and it is so much more robust than a 6.5. Love them both!

I own a 2002 f350 with a 7.3. It has 430,000 miles on it. Pull a 31 ft camper trailer and a firewood trailer. Runs great. The old 96 really benefits from a tow/haul tune. Not a big increase in power but really wakes it up. Buy a quality glow plug relay for a spare in case it goes open circuit. Won't start cold without it. Also a spare cam sensor

best comparison video of these 2 trucks, i had a 1996 f350 7.3 and a 2000 C3500HD 6.5

Good breakdown of those trucks

NICE TRUCK TINMAN ,,SHES IN GREAT SHAPE BUDDY SOUNDS GREAT

Good comparison. Agree nothing beats a Chevy ride and comfort. I drive a 1999 dodge dually 2 wd, auto (bd) dodge one died15 years ago. Banks 4 inch exhaust and towing power chip. Never driven in the winter and pulls trailers and daily driver all summer. Little rough when empty.

Awesome video Tinman!!! I did coil over conversion on my ol silverado, so smooth now. Straight game changer!!

Ive driven and worked F350 crew powerstrokes for 25yrs. My first was a 95 7.3L that i had i bought in 02 and had for 5yrs. 2nd was an 02 7.3L i bought in 04 with 80k mi. It finally has given up with 300k mi last winter so i just got a 16 6.7L to replace it. When im loaded with logs and or equipment im pushing 30k lbs. They get the job done.

Good morning from Cape Cod 🐟 work for an overhead door company that bought me a new 89 f-450 super duty with a 7.3 dually cab and chassis. Built my own custom flatbed with racks over the cab. Double stacked side boxes and the welder generator and a full-size set of torches. All the overhead door repair components and tools, there happened to be 5,000-lb over the rear axel. Being a service truck it was constantly in motion for half a million miles, never a problem other than fuel economy, which was nonexistent. With that said it was a great truck but I'm still a Chevy guy 😂👍✌️🇺🇲

Love the ford content! I have a longbed version of yours. It will also eat door handles lol. I have 4.10s so I can't match your mileage!

Lovin your honest compassion! I'm a ford guy,but was raised with chevy. I think all the auto makers have the last laugh, making us spend all that money on parts!!!! You know they can do better every time we turn our wreanch!!

F350 Superduty an 2004 6.0 with 195000km been a great truck no head gasket issues

Love the sound of those 7.3

My friend you got a very nice WORK truck. My first work truck was a 1969 F350 crew cab, long box w/a 6.9 international. A sleeved block. I got it an auction from consumers power. Fleet vehicles that were well maintained. Got a divorce and had to sell everything. In 1982 & still running strong. It also had a 5 speed manual. She was very vindictive and new I would have gave her the house. If I could have kept the truck. Anyway I'm now retired and have a 2001 Chevy 3/4 ton w/a 6 litre gas motor. Pushing 280,000 miles. Don't leak a drop burns a little oil. First Chevy ever. And I'm good w/ it. Enjoy your back seat. Won't own a truck without one. 🙃😉.

I can tell you what will help that 7.3 last longer. Unplug the pedestal valve and put a 6637 air filter on it. My 95 f350 has a zf5 410’s 33” Patagonia mt’s. With a snow plow bracket with a winch and a dump bed insert. It’s my Swiss Army knife on the 300 acres I live on. It’s my work truck and mostly daily driver. I get 16mpg pulling my landscape trailer and 20+ without. Living in Pennsylvania the rust belt it’s rusty but I can’t find anything else to replace it just from the utilitarian value. It’s stock with 318k miles. I do have a ts6 chip with stock tunes that really helps me pull heavy stuff. The winch I use to plow. Pull bushes and trees down when they get snagged. The dump bed is crazy handy with 12 cords of firewood every year. Just love it. I don’t know much about the 6.5. There’s no too many around me. My son has a 95 f250 he’s fixing up. That is his first vehicle and exactly what he wanted

I have 6.5 with the nv4500 that i bought with 36,000 miles last year. Pretty good and reliable truck. Until recently i also had the 24 valve Cummins as well which i sold when i got my hands on a L5P Duramax. The 6.5 felt like it was averaging better MPG than my Cummins. Thought about swapping out the ole 6.5 for a 24 valve Cummins. But well see.

I have a 1996 F-SuperDuty (F450) with the 7.3 I just took it on its first real drive, after sitting for a long time. I also have a 1994 C2500 with the 6.5 TD love the truck, just wish it was a 4x4 and a long bed, but the 6.5 runs great and has some upgrades which really wake it up.

I have a 6.5 with a 4L80E that I am transplanting into my E350 Class C RV. The 460/C6 was a highly efficient 5MPG. 6.5 has torque/RPM ranges to compare to the 460. Overdrive adds to the equation.

I’m a ford drivetrain master technician and have repaired quite a few ZF transmissions in your configuration. I highly recommend you service the transmission and replace the transmission fluid with GM synchromesh fluid. The blocker rings ( synchronizers) will love it. Now it will feel stiffer shifting in the winter. Maybe do a 50/50 mix with trans fluid where you live. You have a great truck there. I’ve owned a Chevy truck like yours and loved it too til the injection pump went out. Never was the same again.

Great shoot out comparison

I picked up my 2000 k3500 on Friday with the 6.5. Square headlights, single cab. Loving it so far! I live in Eastern Ontario and was looking for a non crusty truck! I finally found it.

I’ve owned a 1997 f250 there great work trucks, yes they ride rough but when there loaded down they just float down the road

Reason these trucks are more expensive is because the newer diesels require a DPF and urea to run. More problems to deal with. Yes the newer trucks can tow more.

Just bought a 97 c3500 to pull my race car trailer. It’s been nice so far.

I own a 97 F350 that I modified the engine to be able to handle up to 1200hp (I've only got it tuned to 500hp, but I wanted the added reliability) it's got air ride rear suspension and an eaton 13 speed. Truck has 892k on the odometer atm.

I had a 95 Ram Cummins. I had to shut off the engine to order at Tim Hortons drive thrus!😂

7.3 idi turbo. Simple, reliable, buildable, and last forever. Mine has 410,000 miles on it and the engine has never been touched. The body is rotting off of it, but it still starts...every time. Powerstroke 7.3's are great, but need more monitoring.

Tinman you can change the oil in the oil pump housing of the 7.3 and ot will quiet down the idle

I drive a 2002 f250. I find it rides really rough. Dont know if it's just design or if the leaf springs are janky. Grew up drive obs 7.3 lots of love for those trucks from me

It's crazy to think how much power they make now days.

I got a 94.5 stock Powerstroke 5 speed and a 93 ford idi turbo auto fully built both tow 10k-20k everyday and never skip a beat!

The old wood weasel sure does look better in my opinion

I got a 25k mile '84 M1008 'cucv' military on 38" Patagonias has the factory 4:56's in 14b locker out back D60 up front. The 6.2(99% same as a 6.5) in it is reman and they all had cast cranks new in 80s/90s. I did a 700R4 swap last year and its getting an out of production Banks Sidewinder kit this week. Found it on a buddies donor truck getting an LS swap out here in California(smog exempt) The beauty of the 6.2/6.5 world is the motors are STILL MADE NEW by AM GENERAL and they are IMPROVED big-time in the form of 'Optimizer 6500' totally new castings/metallirgy/FORGED CRANKS....so they are still sourceable NEW from AMG. Classic Diesel Designs in Seguin TX makes big power pumps for the Ferds and the DB2 pumps for the 6.2/6.5 able to fuel 500+hp out of these things. The crankshaft is the achilles heel of a 6 2/6.5 OEM gm trucks, but the Optimizer version w Forged crank combined w a big pump+ bigger boost will survive and run hard. Depends how much money ya got like anything else. Standyne pumps in GMs are internally governed to 3500 rpm that can be removed and they can spin 5krpm if fueled for it. The 6.5T is in the all new AMG Saber military truck and being made for Hummer repower contracts. There is also the out of production AM Genreral 'P400' 6.5T that has the forged cranks and a CRAZY strong block w stud girdles and more. The marine industry runs 6.2/6.5s also 7.3s are awesome and the hot rodders are pickin em clean so they are getting rarer by the day. 6.5T world is still alive and well and they can be made to run well of you got 10-15k

Tinman you’re a chip off the old block now I know why you and Buckin get along so well with each other ❤😊😮

I’m not a brand loyalist, but I’ve found that most ford trucks are simpler to work on, and tend to take abuse much better that the other brands. I like the creature comforts of the GM trucks, but for work, I tend to lean Ford.

F & S are for EGR or non EGR. FOR THE 6.5 TURBO

Ima chevy guy but I have to admit the powerstroke sounds good

Man I love the k2500 all day. I really love the sound of the 6.5

My dad had a 1985 toyota landcruiser 2h diesel 4lt . beam axles front and back on leafs . carted 5.51156 pounds on it for years when carting potatos

Is the Wood Weasel off to a new home, or getting parked up somewhere safe "for future reference"? It will be kinda sad to see it go. Coming from a country without many massive "trucks" it amazes me how big those things are. The Wood Weasel looked big enough but the F 250 makes it look small. When we do wood it is a combination of 4wd trayback utes (with trailers) and a or several trucks with tippers. (With 2.5 to 8 ton capacity.)

Hey buddy you forgot the Dodge my is the 99 24 valve lond bed 4 wheel drive extend cab with a stick 5 speed The Cummins is a beast but yours sound good

I like both trucks the frontend on the ford is rough on tires but the detroit engine was way behind times then. Never seen a 6.5 or 6.2 that didnt blow head gaskets under industrial use. The chevy rear suspension is way better they dont sag when fully loaded ford hasnt had a good hauling rear suspension since 72.

Both good truck both have good and bad years

Im a gm man because of the parts interchangeability and not such a pane to worke on but gm best deals are lly snd up and you dont have to pull the cab of to worke on and the injectors are not under the valve cover and Allison trans

That was a pretty good comparison the fords definitely better

I got a 6.5 turbo. 2wd Silverado 2500

you should make a sleep music track of the 7.3 idling and upload it to your channel...therapeutic sound...

Drag race for the winner!

I like diesel engines I would love to own both.

My 97 k3500 extended cab dually chevy has the 454. I love the power but 9mpg hurts when I see the 22 of the 6.5. And the 454 is tired at 230,000 miles with 15psi of oil pressure hot at idle on 15W40.

I have a 93 c2500 6.5 with 5 speed and 330k and it runs and drives like new im shocked every day

I have a 2000 GMC dually 6.5td 4x4 3500 and my underhood sticker say's 210 HP /440 foot lbs. F code. WTF..lol! I've done every bolt on upgrade, excepted intercooler and it's chipped. Dose what I need it to. Just wish they came with a intercooler because long grades towing, my EGT's are threw the roof and have to backpedal so it doesn't melt...lol! Thinking when it dies, 12 valve swap and full restoration.

I never hear much about those old Detroit’s in the chevys

Stock GM tires 245/75/16 LRE 3042# vs 235/85/16 3042# Both trucks can handle upgraded flotation tires

Bowtie or no tie

I own a 1997 Chevy Silverado k3500 dually and she’s needing a lot of work done to her to get her running

What about the death wobble of Ford and dodge vs gm

1995 gmc 3500 4bolt main 350 nvg5400 and 14 bolt rear with 4:11 gears single wheel tough tough can be not fast but reliable

Every chevy fan ive seen haven't bought a new truck in the last 10 years

Just seen a 1997 f 250 7.3 for 3000 grand just like yours

I have one of each so I don't have to make the choice!

Got a '99 F250 7.3 with the ZF6. The Ford in that era was more powerful than both the GM and the Cummins. First light diesel offered by the big 3 to have HEUI injection system. Those motors are known to go over 500K miles.

The chevy has a higher hauling rating so it can haul the ford to the scrap yard

Cool sun visor on the Chevy. GM all day every day.

7.3 no brainer~

Tug of war time!!

I go to high school with someone that has a 1996 Chevy 2500 6.5 turbo diesel extended cab long box and it has 800,000 kilometres on it

Torque gets you going, HP keeps you going.

In no world have i had a better ride in a 3/4 ton IFS Chevy than a F250 TTB

I drive a 1999 3500 6.5 with nv4500 and I like it but my brother has a 1999 250 7.3 4 speed both nice trucks but the 7.3 definitely has more ass but my 6.4 has 410 rears so it has a lot of torque going up hills I can go up a pretty steep hill in 5th at 35 mph just fine but on the 7.3 it would shift down

I'm a GM guy and I wouldn't exactly say the two trucks "directly competed" back in the day... If you wanted an efficient diesel that rode and drove nice and could do a bit of work, the GM truck was the ticket. If you needed towing capability, you really had to look at Ford and Dodge for the power of their diesels... '96 the pinnacle of GM trucks, '97+ got the speed sensitive steering that will eventually try to kill you...

The ford motor is better However, your going to need a ladder to get in the back of the ford 😂. Damn they were tall and noisy. Congratulations on the new to you truck.

99 super duty with a 7.3, it is kinda scary how much weight this thing will pull😂

With the 6.5L in 1997 the horse power was upped to 215 and the torque was upped to 450 lb ft of torque but at the end of the day all the 90s diesels where slow reliable and somewhat fuel efficient I’ve towed with all 3 90s dodge ford and Chevy there all slow

There's 2 reasons the Cummins 12 valve is commonly transplanted into other brands of trucks is because (1) the body/frame/interior of the 2nd generation Dodge was shit and (2) the 12 valve is significantly easier and cheaper to get more power and is known for being ridiculously long lasting (There's actually a Cummins million mile club because it's so common for those engines to last over a million miles)

He got one because he's been watching pegs channel...

215@3400 hp/rpm 440@1700 lbs.tq/rpm I own a 95 3500 with a h/o 6.5 and other than a high flow intake plenum and straightpipe it has no other mods.

I'm a GM/Detroit guy, but I'd MUCH RATHER have that Ford. It even sounds 100X better. 😁

There is no comparison. People still want 7.3 Powerstrokes. The 6.5 is legendary. For sucking. PMD issues. Optical sensor issues. Head cracking issues. No balls. The LB7 is 1000X better than the 6.5 could ever be. The 7.3 IDI N.A. is better than the 6.5 turbo. You might as well ask if someone prefers a 15oz fillet mignon, or a pb&j 😂

I have a 91 chevy k2500 but its gas, next truck will b a diesel

Funny my 1996 Chevy says 480 ft lbs of torque at 1800 rpm and says 200 hp

The 7.3 was good but so was the 6.5 especially turbo models 6.5 had less power than 7.3 225 HP vs 180 with 6.5 GM

You weren't kidding about having no brand loyalty.. what's with the "Hercules" China tires? Lmao. Michelin or bust.

always gonna be a ford guy

Meh... always been a chevy owner. My Pop's is a ford guy. Its funny they all get around 18mpg - 20mpg. I'm sure they could improve on that if they really wanted to. Never owned a desiel so I can't really comment, I can only say... Meh... they all rust and break down the same. TC Mahalo Tinman 🤙🤙🤙

The last powerstroke to outdo a Chevy.

I bought a 2000 C3500 6.5 DD instead of a F250 King Ranch with the 6.0. I warned about the 6.0 and was told the 6.5 was weaker than most but very reliable. It proved to be the opposite. That C3500 proved to be the single worst vehicle purchase I have ever made. Every 2 months it was in the shop. Put me off GM forever. It was clearly engineered by the mentally ill.