Excellent work, Glad it is working well for you. Brad

Hi Maya - would you mind sharing some of your exercises? thank you in advance. Steve

Earned your W :)

Did the cod liver oil help? I’m Keto so no sugar hardly in my diet...💋🧚🏻‍♀️❤️🇺🇸

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Y need to build muscle around my knee any ejercises! Sugestión

Thanks, starting up with gym after seeing these comments suggesting strengthening your leg. But the cod liver oil is a new one.

Are you referring to the knee extension machine in the gym where you sit and push your leg below the knew upward?

I lost 100lbs and it does make a difference.

Weight is a huge factor. My doctor explained it to me calculating my weight with the pounds of pressure on my knees. It made sense to me.

@@Labyrinthine_Complexities I need to lose about 50-60

Heck, I've only lost about 15 pounds (so far), and even that has made a difference!

I have slowly lost weight (in my 60s). I highly recommend using the Circadium Rhythm strategy explored by Dr. Panda (AFAR). Just the change in schedule made it so much easier to achieve results. Try it. It works (along, of course, with all the good advice for Bob & Brad !)

What kind of exercises did you do in the pool?

I would do the same motion as riding the bike but in the water. I would swim across the pool on my front and then on my back. When I got tired I would just stay in one spot and keep my arms and legs moving. I also walked forwards and backwards in the pool. I would alternate doing these things for about 30 minutes and then go into hot tub and do some stretches while in the hot tub. Then I would go back into the pool and do the same thing for 30 minutes and then back to hot tub or sauna doing more stretching.

@@brendacosta3663 I h as be a swollen right knee I excise it twice a day sometimes it helps sometimes not it's bone on bone had osteoarthritis since 36yrs old but it never blow out till now I also have arthritis back

My brother-in-law had a minimally invasive surgery to have the bone spurs removed and the problem gone, i't's been >3 years by now still good, worthwhile a look into it

What do mean by water therapy is it only swimming or other thing

i walk backwards on a treadmill

Heard that too and yes, sore calves!

How do you walk on the ball of your feet? I am thinking tipping toes?

@@AMM-ws5tz I think what they mean is to not walk where you're striking the ground with your heels first. A running book I read, which was a study of many individual studies, concluded that a flat foot or slightly toe forward "plant" was best. To achieve that they recommended that runners shorten their stride, so that is what I try to do when I go for walks. Mind you, I walked for years with my old heel first natural step without issue, but I guess age has a way of catching up with all of us. It is really hard to change the way you walk :(

@@AMM-ws5tz I watched a KZfaq video by El Paso Manual Physical Therapy about using your toes to walk and it does help

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You do know the audience is drastically different and science symposium is going to provide evidence to all their conclusions, but that evidence is too boring of course, I trust Trump's words at face value.

You might change your mind if you are really suffering. Keep smiling 😏😏

@@daleequiluz5831 Thank you! ✝️🙏💜Information is still accurate even when delivered in a fun way. It does not take away from the intelligence of the information. Also I've had enough suffering and that's why I prefer to find information in a fun way.

@@GeraltBosMang Why would you bring divisive Trump into this? Many of us come here for a light-hearted experience and don't want to even see that traitor's name so keep your twisted politics off of this page.

@@smilesmile7330 absolutely agree 😊

From my experience, icing an area is relevant after a twist, strain or sprain, because it immediately attacks swelling resulting from the injury. Reducing swelling aids in healing. The following day, heat is the best application to the effected area.

@@abradfordajb Brad thanks you guys are great. But the mechanics of doing so don't make sense. The reason why swelling happens is to accommodate enough blood supply to do the repair. Swelling goes down as repair progresses. Suppressing swelling is working against the body.

Same

Thank you so much for this. I am intrigued and plan to try this. This is fascinating!

I love my Nordic trekking poles. I have bone on bone and it takes the weight off my knees plus it is way cooler than. Walking with a cane! Plus you get a great workout!

happy for you! How bad is your osteoarthritis?

It helped my mother in law, the shot took all my pain away, now what?

I had meniscus repair on my left knee 2 years ago. My knee stiffens up alot and i now my right knee is hurting now. Like you i wish i never had the surgery

I’m having the same problem

@@Warcloud1980 does your non operative knee give you any problems

A friend of mine had the same issue. Last month she had a stem cell injection- $5000.. she said it was life-changing. Pain is minimal and no limping.

I had meniscus surgery on my left knee in 2016, had PT twice & I agree, my knee hasn't been right since either; just constant pain. My rt knee is developing chronic pain as well for compensating. The saddest thing is I used to be very active before this, I'm a nurse who wears lead (radiology), I still try to workout, but the pain afterwards is horrendous.

Hey mate.. how you feeling now? I just got diagnosed with knee osteoarthritis

@@tenesantos I still ride my bike a lot. But I do need the replacement surgery for both knees. It's not killing me, but I'd rather get it now then wait till I'm older and not as in good shape. Hopefully within the next year I can get at least one of them done.

@@Teleman01 alright mate… I wish you all the best 🙏🏽 Thanks

@@Teleman01 At what point do we know we need TKR?

Thanks for checking back friend! :)

In the water, people can go harder, which if they overdo it could make it flare up... but water is more full body then isolated.

Totally agree. All the weights off your knees and spine. I do a lot of stretching in pool. I love it. Pay for it when I get out lol. What are we to do!?

I'm not sure but ,if anyone else wants to uncover joint and muscle pain causes try Bablim Relief Booster (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some interesting things about it and my cousin got cool results with it.

Been there, sigh

Rheumatoid Arthritis is curable and I have suffered it for 12 years before I got cured after many medic treatment. I was cured with herbs remedy by Dr Oyalo on KZfaq. I glad I’m free

6 months later did you find something? And or do you know if knee braces work? I was once an active vibrant fitness fanatic, but after 12days on LEVOFLOXACIN antibiotics for sinus surgery, I am LITERALLY CRIPPLED :( My archilies was 1st to be a problem and finally started feeling better and now my knees are SO bad I cannot walk again.

@m c They dont only cause arthritis, they eat away the collegean in the body with is what tendons and ligs are made of. Thererore at certain ages its harder and takes longer for the body to make up what is lost. In the meantime, it is VERY easy to tear or rupture something just by everyday activities (walking fast, twisting, turning, lifting things ect) and even moreso for athletes (as I once was :( ) who are active. Google it. Im not a scientist, but I DO know I am living in a side effect nightmare.

@@possumfriend2335 NOOOO! That is so discouraging. I feel the same way. I thought it was getting better and then some days I cant walk. How old are you? Also, what does your diet consist of? Curious bc therre has to be SOMEHING that can heal us!

@@luvfitall I know, I'm sorry, I was having a terrible night after several in a row and let the negativity get to me. I feel slightly better today. I've been on a ketogenic diet for the last 3 years or so and it's helped a lot, but it makes it more confusing when a flare up happens seemingly out of nowhere when I haven't changed anything.

@@possumfriend2335 I totally hear your. I let the negativity get me down ALL the time, bc its like 1baby step forward and 5 giant steps back it seems 😓

I do appreciate the advice. However I tried several different methods. And they don't work. Walking is a great way to go. India

Can you please let me know the brace you use?

@@rositameggs4559 I use a McDavid least expensive brace with adjustable straps that I got at Academy. The braces come in 4 sizes and they have paper measuring tapes. Also, I do the exercises to strengthen the leg muscles. Leg lifts and duck walking with power bands.

We’re you buy it at

same here..swimming, water jogging really helped

Absolutely true ..can miss out once in a while but it really helps a lot

Please can you explain what long daily exercise you do. Many thanks.

Thank you Shirley Stein for your comment and request for information about exercises for knee arthritis. There is nothing special about the exercises which are the usual that any physiotherapist would suggest. There are three groups into which the exercises fall. The first group involves bending movements to increase range of motion. There are some six such. In the supine position the lower leg is bent up towards the thigh as far as possible either using just the thigh muscles or forcing the lower leg to bend using a towel wrapped around the ankle and pulling on the towel. The second exercise involves large cycling moments of both the lower leg and thigh while supine movements both forward and reverse. The third exercise is raising the lower leg vertically so that both thigh and lower leg are vertical while supine. At start both the thigh and lower leg are bent so that it is only the lower leg that is raised to be inline with the thigh which is already vertical. The fourth exercise is slow exaggerated marching movement while standing in one place the knee being raised as high as possible.The fifth is a slow squat with the back pushed out back . This is done on to a high stool or bed and support taken by a chair back to prevent falling. The sixth is a wall squat done with the back sliding against a wall and the squat limited to a very shallow squat from which it is possible to stand up straight. The second set involves muscle strengthening exercises. These include supine leg raise to thirty degree up, lower leg raise from a seated position, standing lateral leg raise, standing backward leg raise, standing total body raise from heel to toe. The third set includes three very effective traction exercises. While seated on a high stool swing lower legs with ankle weighs to one seventh of body weight on each ankle.Reduce weight if discomfort felt. Stand next to a padded seat stool with lower leg placed o horizontally on it. Place rolled up towel in between thigh and lower leg close to back of knee. Bend forward pressing down on lower leg press down up to comfort level. The final traction exercise is done lying on floor. Place stretch cord around ankle and fix other end of cord to strong fixed bed leg or other very heavy furniture leg. Move body up so the leg is stretched.You will find many excellent videos on KZfaq illustrating all these and more , The exercises involving flexing of the knee and traction are very effective and yield quick results. Not relevant to your request, but I have found wheat, oats and other grain products to be bad and most decidedly sugar in all forms. Millets of any kind are the best and have absolutely no ill effects on arthritis. Alcohol is to be limited to a maximum of two pours per day of red wine and no hard drinks and of course no smoking. All the very best to you. @@shirleystein6521

@@vivianastridge2167 Hi Vivian, many thanks for your interesting reply and for taking the time to reply.

@@shirleystein6521 I am happy that you liked the information passed on to you. None of the exercises are of my making. These are the standard exercises that any physiotherapist would prescribe. If you should find that the regime is much too drawn out, you could limit your choices to just two of each type. Two of forward leg raises, two of total knee bends while supine, two of standing leg raises , three exaggerated cycling movements while supine and most important never to be missed three full knee traction exercises, If you still find the exercises to be too much then for all that is valued, do not ever miss the three knee traction exercises. Traction does provide immediate results, though these are of a temporary nature. If the three traction exercises are done with three repetitions each of 20 minutes duration per day for one month the results will last for about three to six months. Wishing you Shirley Stein the very best in all things but especially your well being and freedom from pain.

Good just about to go down the surgacy route

Thanks and blessings for sharing your experience! 🙏👏👍👍♥️

Can you do things like hiking or squats ?

MSM has also helped me with herniated disks and the insane pain from inflammation. I took powerful pain killers for months to even function at all, but MSM stopped the pain in 2 weeks.

It didn't do a thing for me, but my mom swears by it. You're so right, everyone responds differently!

Well said

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Shutting the fuck up is only thing you can do

I had a very bad knee pain I started doing self massage with very hard hands and also started Massaging with rolling pin on my legs and arms Every day and it really worked now I have no pain and also walk almost 25 to half an hour everyday believe me it’s going to work

this is really interesting. was your knee pain associated with a lot of inflammation and swelling?

@@ethanbaird5058 hi have you been able to find any useful information.

@@akperheogheneovo4954 some pain is associated with auto-immune issues that are aggravated by poor diet like high sugar. i don’t fall in this category so i stopped pursuing it, but if you are interested in this sort of information i would look into mikhaila peterson’s story

None fits on me.

@@SunOfTheSun44 you can get compression bandage

@@SunOfTheSun44 I have the same problem and so do my friends. They make those copper knee braces for skinny men's knees. I think it's discrimination, on what these companies are always making items for the thin people!

Consider DMSO, it is so safe,effective,and cheap it was featured on 60 minutes, twice!

But that different from arthritis, so surgery might be beneficial in that type of injury.

They start that segment at 2:55 by being very specific that surgery was not recommended >>>unless the knee was locking

Right??!! The placebo effect occurs when someone uses or does something that has not really been shown to improve that specific thing, and the body heals anyway! It's not just that someone "thinks" they feel better. Objective testing can show that they really are better! The placebo effect is awesome!!

We are creators.

just opt for the cheap ones!

Did I you get the insurance to pay or did you have to fund it. Hope your still well

@@leewilson5389 I live in Canada, so it is fully covered. BTW I did have my right knee done last summer and so far both my knees are doing much better. Good luck. )

I have to get some resistance bands my kittens destroyed the ones I had

how are your knees and hips 1 yr later Sammy Bobammy?

@@pegdunn9236 I actually just started doing a repeat of the course...my knees are still better than they were when I started the course last year, but starting to deteriorate again, so I thought the course would help... The thing I noticed most was that my balance is so much better than it was when I started the course last year, and I'm able to do the movements much easier, so the physiotherapist started increasing the difficulty on my second week, where last year I was a month or so in before they started to increase things...I do highly recommend the course, it's not cheap, but it's worth it..

Felt better dropping sugar.

I’ve never gone full keto but you’re SO right. Dropping sugar and reducing my starches helps my joint issues a lot.

Absolutely!!!! I am carnivore and have zero aches or pains anywhere!

Also dropped Potatoes and felt better again.

It's part of the anti inflammatory diet!!

I agree!

I on the other hand am trying to get a wheelchair so I'm not stranded at home due to pain, instability, etc and can't get one. This after a major injury and arthritis and PT and being told I can't be prescribed meds strong enough to fix the pain. So I've been at home most of 2 months. The 2 helpful things are tape and injections but I still can't go out without a wheelchair

I have bone on bone on both knees I’ve been doing exercise and I’ve been riding a bike five days a week for 40 minutes the knees don’t seem to be doing any better I noticed my balance is off also I really don’t want to go for a knee replacement I would have to do them in both knees 83 years old and I really don’t want to go and have them done what could I do to make them stronger

@@francesmilito4178 did you ever get the replacements

Same here. Dairy is awful on so many levels. My knees and joints are much improved since going plant based.

Wow! That's fabulous.

That's really assuring. Could you share the right diet please? Would be very helpful.

@@AmalAms yaah

What did u dooo lol

Pls share the diet ,❤️

I truly wish you the best. I was in PT with a man who'd had surgery on his knee two years prior and was back in PT after his second round of surgery on the same knee.

Don't give up. Work out your quads and hamstrings. Build those muscles up and take supplements. Above all pray pray pray

@@thabani8055 Yes, thank you so much, pray, pray, pray!

@@lalaland962 Thank you! God Bless

I understand totally after being injured at work. I had to have a meniscectomy after having a bed slammed into my knee. I suffer still with the exact knee issues as well. I was told a knee replacement would most likely be my last option. I use a wheelchair to get around at work mostly because of the pain. It’s upsetting not being able to walk more than 5 minutes before the pain really starts. Tired of taking pain meds. Praying for healing for us all. 🙏

aqua fina, they didn’t say it didn’t work. And of course it’ll help. It was just mentioned that land base was at a higher recommendation.

aqua fina I agree with you because I am doing the same

Always listen in full ness ness

@@bron9674 m.n

I love water therapy, aqua fit (exercise in the pool}, Aqua Zumba, Swimming, & having fun in the pool!

Thank you!

Even if you had never had any surgery, you would have developed arthritis as well. And I think it even seems that in your case, arthritis took longer to develop. By the way, how did you tear your meniscus?

@@carlacaires4679 saying that "you would have developed arthritis as well" is not based on anything factual.

Im confused my knees are stiff please can l go for knee replacement or not...l can hardly walk even sitting down its a challenge to stand up....lm 52

Helps me too. A little. I try to do at least 10 minutes a day. I should do more!

@@alansenzaki4148 they actually do recommend this in the guidelines, so keep it up, there is some evidence it works in the trials, not that that that matters in your case as anecdotally you already know it works.

It actually hurts mine a lot. I’ve tried multiple bikes. Walking is fine however, it’s skiing that bugs mine and stairs

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@@chrisstamoulis4056 Yes, stairs are awful. I'm thinking of having a stair lift installed. Why does knee pain flare up some days, but not others?

How old are you now. I'm so glad. Your doing well I had mines trimmed down as well it was locking up

How old are you now. I'm so glad. Your doing well I had mines trimmed down as well it was locking up

@@tonywalker1954 50 years young. The best thing for my knees I have every done is work on a once a day bridging exercise(20 kg weight) 5 days a week with a black band around my knees to work all the booty muscles.

Me too! I lost 50# which was great, but I noticed I lost A LOT of muscle- especially in my quads. I don't have pain, just joint stiffness... sometimes my knees turn to stone. I take Ibuprofen daily. Trying out collagen peptides and light exercise to rebuild the muscles.

@@TheMandatoryReporter Is it better now ? How you lost 50lb ? Just diet or excercise also ?

@ Buddy is it better or worst now ?

@@HA-dn4ez Okay, so I found out my THYROID level was very abnormal (June)...I have Hashimoto's Disease. My Endocrinologist put me on Levothyroxine and within 3d, I was able to walk without a limp. Though my gait is much improved, and I'm able to do short workouts daily, my leg/hip muscles still get fatigued. My eyesight even improved slightly! I lost weight by going vegan.

Ok I thought I was going nuts. I recently lost 10 pounds, I know it's not much, but I know it's still alot to help with knee joints and I swear I've noticed more pain than before. I know it doesn't help that I basically sit all day at a desk job but still. I've been looking for days for something to help

Good

Agreed about the tape. Same goes for plantar fasciitis. I'm able to walk without bracing myself for the pain due to KT tape.

I had arthroscopic surgery and they are right. Wound up with a knee replacement. Much better. Looking at one for other knee also.

Build ur quads calves hamstring ,reduce weight and then do what u want

Totally wondered that myself! I would have liked to hear the "why" for some of these recommendations for and against.

Did your meniscus make that cruncky cracking noise Everytime you bent your leg ?

@@ancientdiscoverys no it was either fine or tearing. I’m down to bone on bone these days, unfortunately

@@UBRLND-X ... the bone on bone dose not make any noise for you ? Iam asking because my right leg started cracking and creaking really bad since last week, just happened out of no were...i have no pain at all... the cracking sound lead me to 2 different doctors. One told me its OA of the knee and the otber one told me if theres no pain forget about it . Iam still concerned

@@ancientdiscoverys they absolutely do. Not constantly but when they do its always painful, sometimes the joints slide laterally. When that happens its always extra painful

@@UBRLND-X ..thanks for answering back to me so many times...i think i will call a physical therapist to help me easen up my cracking a little. Can i ask you if the bone on bone noise your hearing is more of a grind or crack sound ?

Yep, there are no 1 pill curealls.

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Family doctors though aren't specialists....they're just like a jack of all trades Doctor... that's where specialists come in .....

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I agree...love aqua therapy(not covered under ANY insurance in my county) but pain leaving is so bad 😟

I think Bob and Brad were at fault for providing only half the information. I am sure the report will have said that water exercise was beneficial but also that it provided no long-term solution. When race horses are injured, they are often exercised in pools before returning to normal terra-firma exercise. Admittedly, arthritis is more of a condition than an injury, but current thinking is that (as well as weight loss) the knee muscles have to be strengthened by resistance training to take pressure off the bones.

I agree if you can do land based exercises it would be better than water but if not by all means go to the pool. It made a huge difference in my wife's knees.

@@dpstrial Race horses also get DMSO (approved by FDA)