I cast Vanish on myself all the time at work. Never thought about Vanish/X-Zone-ing my boss though. I'll let you know how that goes...

My boss and I have scrapped before. I had youth on my side. Now I'm 37. He's 46. We have been working together for 11 years. You CAN win. You just still lose.

Technically you can defeat your boss irl, but the next scene will still play out as a scripted loss as you are then fired and arrested 😂

Use the stapler, it has an improved crit rate

The strategy is to become their boss and then fire them.

That's a IF since even at lv 60 on a first run with the best BUYABLE armors odds are its opening move will still hit for 999 damage before you get 1 attack off HECK AT LV 60 with the Prism Helms on the entire party its opening attack STILL hits for like 750 damage a turn but so can the REST of its moves on a NG+ run at the Ocean Palace while having 3x a much HP.

Never change, Vegh... Never change.

I managed an instance of beating a boss meant to be unwinnable in Nexomon, that being the very first fight with Ziegler. You can't even use items in that fight, so not only do you have to grind, but you also need to be lucky enough to stunlock him. Still didn't change the cutscene.

@@Nathan_Talisien How is he still around, cancering up random youtube comment sections? He's been ruining forums for a good 30 years now and is STILL GOING?

@@Milktube To quote Babe Ruth in, "The Sandlot"... "Legends never die, kid." 😋

Tell that to young me, who really wanted that spell on my enemy skill....

​@@JesseHenderson-xc2kgthe skill is "Beta" which only defeats players that are its namesake, jk

midgarsorm ?

Correct but it can truely NEVER die unlike all the bosses on this video that stay dead IF you can kill them.

Young me after seeing the Midgar Zolom impaled on a tree by Sephiroth: ummm...I'm going back to the farm 😮

You could also be super OP before even beating Ifrit by grinding to draw magic from all outside enemies to 100. Then after junctioning to raise stats go and grind the T-Rex for a bit.

Slight offtopic, but when I was a kid my older brother and I rented the PSX version of FF VIII and this exact problem happened at the start of disc 2, when the prison started to rise. There was no way to skip that cutscene that we knew of... We had to wait until we could buy an original copy.

@@ppmguire It's way faster and more efficient to just Refine cards, drawing spells from enemies it's more of a clutch than the main method, FF VIII would probably have a better reputation if they pushed the Refine system more than the Draw on field. As the OP said, you could just refine abyss and junction that to ATK to break the game, and you can do that before Ifrit in a number of ways, it takes slight less than an hour to unlock everything necessary.

​@ppmguire Level grinding is the worst thing in FFVIII All enemies are [party's average level] *[.8-1.2] they also gain stats at a faster rate than the heroes. Unless you really want to grind like hell for the item drips or use the tonberry money trick, so you can get max stats, it's best to wait until getting all the ___ lvl up options before grinding up so your stats actually level up near the same as them and actually be at their level

Primal liquid did a video on this

Agreed

dude FUCK THAT DEMON WALL i almost beat it once but i know that if i had made a different choice earlier than i could... i was just too low level barely

Quickening chain my guy. 😏 They are easy to find on the licenses board. Head for them first.

based on that answer, you're not a real gamer. It's undead 🙄 throw a fuckin Phoenix Down at it

Reflect>Target all Aero works very well, but legit is pretty hard!

It was foundational... foundational

When I first played FF8, I thought you were SUPPOSE to beat that robot, and I did beat it, I didn't even know about that cut scene till WAY later when I replayed the game again a few years later and decided to just run

That's why she's the Queen of FF games.

But I tend to FARM it for the 50 AP constantly BELOW BLOWING it up on the FINAL screen on the PS4 remaster I do NOT need LV 60+ GF's to blow it up just turn on the GOD mode cheat give Squall a high enough Str and have him LIMIT break it to death.

​@@Th3BlackLotuslol, no

Baaj temple ffx, the Zartinan caverns ffxii, the crashed sub ffvii. It could be a fun list. FFXII has a bit of a weird one in the fact that a lot of the locations you got to has optional returns or are prompted by the hunt system but FFX could fill up a list on its own probably with the two we mentioned, Reminum temple, temple of the lost faith, the cactura village and probably more I can't recall at this time. Would be an intriguing list

Gongaga

@@beebajazz That one's a bit murky, since you do actually go to Gongaga in the main story at one point, after Aerith leaves the party following the events at the Temple of the Ancients.

I like places that expand the story/world building and also give a nice benefit for the player. FF 1-6 either don't remember or haven't played. FF7 would probably be Wutai, I have to imagine. Important to the world-building and gives a character, but you might never even enter it if you aren't exploring iirc. As far as I remember, while you're told Wutai exists and maybe its general area, you'd have to find it and nothing tells you to go there? FF8 I honestly don't remember the game enough for this. FF9 - Confession... I've never gotten past disc 1... FFX I'd actually do the Cavern of the Stolen Fayth. You have to stumble upon it, and it's really cool in a bunch of ways. The crusader training ground just outside it, which is fun world building. The story for Lulu. The story for the Fayth. Yojimbo and having to hire him. Etc. As far as I can remember, nothing in the game ever directs you down there. Second to that, I would do Remiem Temple. But the story around Belgamine isn't as compelling as the one for Lulu. And the Magus sisters are cool, but Yojimbo is awesome (and can one-shot some of the hardest bosses in the game). Also, if the theme is exploration, you do get told that Remiem temple is nearby iirc, where the Cavern of the Stolen Fayth is pure exploration. FF11 - Actually most of the game would qualify for this, since it wasn't a directive game. MOST things were found through player exploration and experimentation, including unlocks for all of the jobs. Plus the prime summon enemies, I think? Etc. FF12 has a bunch of optional areas. So maybe the Necrohol of Nabudis. Very nice world building in that, and in the original it was where the Zodiac Spear was, and it's where an Esper is. But I think hunts will send you there, so depends on our classification on what directs players. FF13 has two optional areas you'd find from exploration, though you'd be led there by hunts. So same general issue as before. FF14 - nothing I can think of that really qualifies outside of just being fun world-building environments. I can't think of anything I'd really qualify, especially since quests get put on the minimap. But maybe Eureka would sorta qualify though, since you have to learn by doing/exploring in Eureka if you don't use a guide. You'd be directed to go to Eureka Anemos though. But without a guide you'd have to discover by trial/error/exploration what you need to progress further. But you are told that there's future stuff/goals, so I dunno that I'd really include this. FF15 - 95% of the game is optional, including most of the tombs, so IDK what to do with that. FF16 - I'm only 85% through it, so I dunno what comes later, but nothing really comes to mind. I enjoy exploring the maps for some world building and such, but I don't think I've really found anything "secret" that I wasn't sent to by a hunt. Or, maybe another way to put it, I've found some hidden gems that I ASSUME will be locations for future hunts because there's nothing to do there. There's a mansion in the woods near the prison fort place, for instance.

All I am hearing is this needs to happen

I actually did beat it when I played it on the SNES, I thought you were suppose to, and I was pretty apt at reading the screen prompts along with later in the fight, predicting when to not attack it because I knew it would "hide" its head in it's shell

BUT that shell almost has much HP as the MAGIC Master boss at least 60,000 that its NOT worth it.

​@@MrEli768Don't lie brother. The shell has 60,000 health and you have to know it's able to run out of MP, and notice that it has done so. It takes multiple hours to kill it.

Still not worth it.

nah ur supposed to run but if u have protect and shell he's an absolute fucking joke there.

@@codyfranczak4493 First time you face the Boba Fett of Ivalice,you are at best at level 9 or 10 if you don't grind with the wraiths. Even if you use Protect and/or Shell,he and his mens are at level 25-30 if I remember well (the original PS2 release I'm talking). You've another opportunity far later into the game if you make the Hunts as he will put a fake one to trick you into a trap and while he and his mens does level up a little bit,you are more powerful that they at that point. The end result is that Ba'Gamnan ends up "dying" like Boba Fett,by getting eaten by a monster on the sands.

Same😂

I always took them out, but only because i would farm a good amount on the bridge with all the skeletons to up my chain to max lol

Same! I just kicked his ass without too much trouble, but then I always grind and farm everything way too much

Its such a totally different style of game when it comes to "how to get strong". I feel like it overcomplicated things which introduced all these ways to break it. But boy was I salty as a long time ff gamer to learn that grinding to 100 is NOT, in fact, the best way to get uber powerful. Every one of these games back then was built with areas you could go to quickly farm a huge level boost or max them out. The dino head shaped forest in 6, that plain above the grotto in 9, there were tons of them, some more secret than others. 8 had iirc, the island closest to heaven/hell with one being high exp the other being high ap. Its been so long since I played I may be wrong.

​@@chrishubbard64You are correct. I think that FF8 intentionally focused on GFs and magic to distribute the party "levelling" so that the game was paced differently and that it mitigated power levelling. This was done at the risk of obfuscating the process of strengthening your characters though, I guess. Also FF8 has vysage farming just outside of Timber in Lallapalooza Canyon, in a corner of the valley in the mountain range, that comes up much earlier in the game so it's more like FF9's plateau at the top of Gizamaluke's Grotto where you can farm grand dragons and garudas, although vysage farming for levelling isn't as popular or as well known.

I’m still so upset at NT. I remember pre-ordering it and being filled with so much excitement. Woe unto me once the game had released…….

I wanted NT to be good. Instead, we got a game where you had 3-on-3 fights, no actual story mode, and you had grind out points to unlock cutscenes. It was arguably worse than FF13

@@AdiG1 dude I know! Gone were the personal one on one confrontations. None of the battles felt like there was any purpose behind them. The game felt like a grind just to get 5 seconds of a fmv sequence that you would have to purchase just to get any "story". And don’t get me started on the damn moogle. "Press square to do an hp attack, kupo!" NT had none of the soul left in dissidia. It’s a shame that they will never do another one and all we have left are the first two locked away on the psp.

My brother in Christ I share your pain. NT sucked balls and is a tragedy we won't get a proper duodecim on console.

Not with that attitude

It's incredibly hard it seems unbelievable, but it's possible.

Of course not simply. There's nothing simple about it.

I had a roommate who did it once after an all nighter--there is evil there that does not sleep.

Her derision at everyone and everything that isn't her sister automatically makes her invincible 😂 Though I've heard it said that you can calm the valkyrie's wrath if you take her to a Louie Vutton store...

actually I NEVER used the Force Armlet even with that owned you still need at least 1 Energy Crystal for Rinoa's Ultimate besides when Always fighting Diablos AT LVS OVER 30 to Draw Flare/Holy off of it theirs only 2 CURRENT GFs that boost your MAGIC stat so that draw never fails. So in order to a 3rd PARTY member to NEVER fail to Draw Flare/Holy off of it you actually HAD to use the Force Armlet IT may drop since the 40% Magic effect WOULD be required to have all 3 party members drain Flare/Holy off of it while NOT having the Draw command FAIL to work against it.

@@veghesther3204 I think you can get an energy crystal from Elvoret if you're high enough level. If you're trying to boost magic for drawing, you should be able to get Double from Elvoret which should allow you to junction high enough to be able to draw anything, or I feel like there was a way to get at least a small amount of Demi early on before Diablos, like with cards maybe. If you have a bit of Demi junctioned to magic, you can draw the rest from Diablos and your draws will get stronger as you fill up.

I shall not. I've wanted to do that LONG before this moment.

i wanted to do that in FF9. DAMMIT ARTEMICION, CAUSE OF YOU I NEED TO DELIVER ALL THESE DAMN LETTERS!

That feeling would reach new heights with FF7 Rebirth.

That moogle is the save moogle from ff9, just wanting retribution.

she can't die anyways I could use the always do 9999 damage PS4 remaster cheat on and she still can't die and still will reduce the party to 1 HP left while you still won't get EXP from those battles.

@@veghesther3204 That's Beatrix for you. Not even cheats could put her down.

Correct and that applies to EVERY fight where the always do 9999 damage cheat still can't KILL her for exp including the DISC 2 fights against her.

@@veghesther3204 shes just that good. She could probably solo the final boss.

And tbh, a person with enough time on their hands could straight up steamroll the game anyway by magic grinding and even getting an ultimate weapon or two on disk 1

Cards? Lol. ​@@DarkFrozenDepths

​@@xaby996 you have to grind quite a bit of points just to unlock card mod but yeah, cards are the fastest way

Me: *grinds Seifer to level 100 to get access to -aga spells without relying on Card Mod*

I won't even do THAT I'll lv up Squal/Quistis BOTH to lvs over 30 BEFORE fighting Ifrite to do that AND do the same for Zell/Selphie as well.

One common quirk of Final Fantasy games is that the developers don't put anything in to acknowledge beating battles that are intended to be unwinnable. They probably feel like it'd disrupt the flow of the story or something, idk.

@@qactustick same issue in Valkyrie Profile, you still get a game over after beating Freya.

Vanish and leap with gau was my favorite exploit and then having relm sketch him.

Agreed. Every save I reload until I win that stacked against you game. Sure you can just score a goal and then run the ball behind enemy goalie to cheese the time but I like to actually play that one out. My 2 friends had me beat that first encounter for their saves because they hated Blitzball for some reason. There IS some reward for winning, some kind of str sphere or something it isn't much. Sigh. They both also had me do the chocobo run for tidus ultimate, and max lightning dodges. I've dodged 300 lightning strike at least 12 full counts. :(

I just learned the same thing and now I wonder what we were supposed to do In a normal run. The Ramuh way felt like the obvious way to do it

You're not wrong. This video is cringe

Saaaaaaay what? How did you do that?

@@Ultima013 Grinding it’s ass until he broke down and walked away without Quisits’s Gatling gun scene

Honestly, would have been fine if they spoke about how one could beat Deadeye WITHOUT Ramuh (even better if it's possible to beat him on the first pass?)

@@meltingkeith7046 Yeah, I don’t know if it’s possible: the demo looked pretty scripted as far as I remember, but if it was possible, then it would have made more sense to be here.

400 AP was the highest i could farm off with it, good boost

@@feybrandt40533 My personal best was 500 but it was so close (less than 2 seconds) that it ended being too nerve wracking to worth it again. But YES! Great way to catapult your GF's to greatness in one chase scene!

@@RallasterAsuremen a win's a win! 500 is mighty respect

Except in FF7 it can't truely die it still is reappears on screen after you KILL it.

@@veghesther3204 Half-true. If you beat it, it will not appear until you change locations (e.g. Mithril Mines)

Ah, those were the good old days. I remember when I fought constantly outside the marsh where it resided until I learned Aerith's invincibility LB (I forget the name), and everyone hit about level 20, so their stats allowed them to survive the Zolom's normal attacks

Exactly FF7 really only has 2 enemies that can't really DIE Midgar Zolem and Any chocobo's you hit when NOT summoning Odin.

It is. This guy is not very bright

Also boosts the odds of winning rare items from enemies.

@@ChaosBahamut I think you might be thinking of the Trader Card you get from defeating Hammer before he self-destructs. IIRC, the Slayer Robe doesn’t have a secondary effect. Been a while since I checked, however.

@@Xenobears ... Yep, you're right. *gets his dunce hat* XD