This video got delayed a couple weeks because of covid. Total balls. Huge thanks to Starforge PC's for helping keep the dream alive. If you are interested in upgrading your setup or you just want to check out what Starforge has to offer, check out our link here: starforgepc.com/KarlJobst
@Kat21Ай бұрын
-please lowercase the osu in the title-
@italiano246Ай бұрын
If only i had money
@SrelathonАй бұрын
Bro got sponsored by the company with the dick and balls logo
@ltfreebornАй бұрын
Got sponsored by the dick logo company yay.
@HugeMamamia44291Ай бұрын
Ay thanks, was looking for a new pc.
@user-ex6xc5ox3kАй бұрын
"i'm literally cheating" -Guy Cheating
@BupboyАй бұрын
Reverse psychology doesnt always work ig
@Mertain420Ай бұрын
What are you gonna do, stab me?
@JAOResnikАй бұрын
Freudian slip
@SFADonuttunoDАй бұрын
IM UNIRONICALLY CHEATING
@PepesmallАй бұрын
LMAO I saw this comment before it came up in the video and I thought no fuckin way
@RetroJ3000Ай бұрын
I didn't realize they invented a carpal tunnel speed run
@awakehoppsАй бұрын
carpals are very rare occurance in the osu scene
@domo968Ай бұрын
unless you genuinely just dont have good tapping form then yeah injuries are very much more likely
@ocococococococococococococ3267Ай бұрын
if you play with correct form then it is very rare
@MalcBoxАй бұрын
Nah, this game pretty much forces you to relax your muscles to see any improvement
@Cara.314Ай бұрын
yall know it can take decades to develop? you dont know if it's rare yet or not. also, you cant know that stuff without studies. It is most commonly diagnosed in people between the ages of 40 and 60, beyond the age of nearly all osu players.
@SDC3Ай бұрын
At first this just sounded like negative edge in fighting games (releasing a button counts as an activation in the same way pressing it does) but the explanation that holding/releasing is an important in-game action and clotiful's keyboard settings were performing a double action on release (activate and auto-release) was very enlightening. I can see why the keyboard manufacturer also needed an explanation!
@Yuieatspaint21 күн бұрын
I'm gonna negative edge Billy 214S all over you urrrgghhjjjj!!!!!
@SEB1991SEBАй бұрын
His big mistake was openly admitting live on stream that he was cheating. That was a subtle clue that some people picked up on.
@RaycrickАй бұрын
People were already on him YEARS ago. No cap.
@xplurales113828 күн бұрын
@@Raycrick??
@fanrir138Ай бұрын
For those who are wondering, one of the reasons Cloutiful wasn't suspected when he seemingly became a speed player overnight is because the release of the Wooting keyboard has shown that many legit players could suddenly attain way higher speeds thanks to the "Rapid Trigger" function of the keyboard. Rapid Trigger allows you to lower the point at which a button press is registered, so even when you only lightly tap a key it counts as a keypress. Going from a mechanical keyboard to a Wooting is essentially the same as going from a membrane to a mechanical keyboard. One stroke still equals one action at the moment a key is pressed you just don't have to press keys as hard, which is why Rapid Trigger is allowed while the DKS setting Cloutiful used is bannable.
@CrimsonFlameRTRАй бұрын
Can you explain the Wooting response? Karl didn't explain that at all. He just said they were educated.
@finesseandstyleАй бұрын
@@CrimsonFlameRTR Normal keyboard takes more effort to press. Wooting keyboard take less effort to press. Less effort - more efficient streams, more staminal, more speed
@FlixlimАй бұрын
@@finesseandstyle But the rapid trigger function is not the function that is considered cheating, you are just restating the original post lol
@wizardsmix7961Ай бұрын
@@Flixlimyeah if you understand that then how are you confused?
@imightbeaperson630Ай бұрын
Cloutiful's DKS settings were bannable because it was 2 inputs from one keyboard input. When he unpressed the second key it would hold the button press for a certain amount of time AND unpress the key.
@HeowolfАй бұрын
"The two thousand pp choke" is a new phrase I wish I had heard sooner
@kaerstyxАй бұрын
been playing osu since 2016 and i still laugh a little whenever I hear PP
@chillstorm2341Ай бұрын
Domain Expansion: Choke of Two-Thousand PPs.
@BuenDudeАй бұрын
So the limit is 1999 pps
@JonathanScarletАй бұрын
@@BuenDude The limit is theoretically endless and the upmost limits of human/computer interfacing, AKA how fast you can humanly flick a mouse/tablet and tap the keys to the rhythm as perfectly as possible plus how fast the game can register those inputs without lag/input/delay/the sheer speed causing it to miss notes. Number-wise my guess is probably somewhere in the mid-2000s. 3K is a huge maybe, imo, although the top players might have a better opinion. That phrase just means that had Cloutiful actually FC'd the map (as in no misses) he probably would've had a 2Kpp score or damn near close to it.
@Beth_OMetteАй бұрын
@@JonathanScarlet the joke your head
@ainakamura3094Ай бұрын
that person CANNOT be called "childfangirl"💀💀💀
@catsandcrafts171Ай бұрын
That creeped me out as well. Worries me too, unless it means something else in translation from another language or something.
@saurabhjadhav7656Ай бұрын
@@catsandcrafts171 It's a genshin reference... "Child" is the name of a character from the game. Edit: this guess was totally false. Read comments below.
@CocoRoxasАй бұрын
@@saurabhjadhav7656 His name is spelled “Childe” not “Child” isn’t it?
@saurabhjadhav7656Ай бұрын
@@CocoRoxas yeah I realised that later too actually. Maybe they misspelled it? Who knows.
@ayblablablaАй бұрын
@@CocoRoxas someone else probably have that user name
@SuburbaniteUrbaniteАй бұрын
So basically OSU is a Carpel Tunnel and Arthritis speedrun game
@turtlecape8790Ай бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAH get it because when you move your wrist around alot with a mouse it can cause wrist pains so funny hahahahahaha
@timothyobaob3624Ай бұрын
only if you have poor form, but it’s pretty rare for the most part
@simpsondr12Ай бұрын
The amount of people who: A. cannot take a joke and B: are just blatantly wrong, is amazing.
@Damaniel3Ай бұрын
...for weebs. So much anime/JPOP music. For the record, I love Osu! so I'm joking. Mostly.
@avocado7415Ай бұрын
Yeah pretty much, gotta be careful if you're playing a lot.
@a-o-sАй бұрын
Thank you, firstly for having me in the video, that is pretty cool. Secondly for pouring the time and effort you do into creating projects about this topic and previous ones. I have never come across someone with so much care for ensuring the validity and accuracy of the information they report on. Many people, including my self, *do* notice, you are fantastic, keep it up.
@itchiegamesАй бұрын
lol you barely have more subs than me. i havent uploaded in years and my uploads were just dumping random shit on here instead of keeping it on a hard drive. wtf dude, you're clearly trying to be a streamer but failing HARD. i guess tutorials on how to hold a pen arent very popular 🤣🤣holy shit, how fking autistic do you need to be to need a tutorial to hold a fking pen? LOL cringe levels of pathetic.
@EricbombАй бұрын
Am I crazy, or does it feel almost like this could have just become a new category? Cause seeing folks break crazy impossible scores/levels just using custom keyboard profiles sounds fun, if they just had their own leaderboard as a less serious and more silly competition.
@thetrueredleaderАй бұрын
@@itchiegames are you always so obviously obnoxious
@Wishy.Ай бұрын
@@Ericbombthere is private servers that allow users to cheat and have a leaderboard, usually though a lot of cheeters dont because its not “official” and doesn’t bring in any clout
@MinisBettАй бұрын
+1
@ouey1354Ай бұрын
Active cheaters in the top 100? You really think we would let that pass?
@playakatsukirelaxАй бұрын
for any viewers that aren't ingrained in the osu community, this is a copypasta stemming from the creator, who released a statement including this phrase. a few top 100 players got banned within a day of this announcement leading to the birth of the copypasta
@HenryZhoupokemonАй бұрын
Minecraft speedruns be like
@SkylarTrahanАй бұрын
Well they got to rank 3..so it seems like they did to some extent
@@playakatsukirelaxThanks for the explanation. I was so confused about how random the comment was.
@MaishidaHDАй бұрын
All this time I thought, the people with the tablets, where constantly tapping the pen on the surface to make the inputs. And I was like, "How the hell is that even possible!?" But now that I know you just need to hover your pointer in the areas you want and use the keyboard for the timed inputs, it all makes sense now. I might just have to give this game a try, considering I have a Wacom just sitting here in front of me. God I dumb...😅
@tarragon112Ай бұрын
some people actually do play like this it's called tap x (you do need one of your keyboard keys to play like this though) there's a steeper learning curve compared to normal but some people do benefit a lot with it
@EverestTiger29 күн бұрын
some drag the pen across the tablet surface as well that's thanks to the fact that you can disable mouse clicks in game during gameplay to prevent extra inputs but yea you should definitely give the game a try! it's fun to play along music you like
@-Kami-Kun-18 күн бұрын
@@tarragon112 I used to play like this, it's very nice to play with but playing dt or high cs is a challenge
@ZEUSTHEGOD___13 күн бұрын
I would like to try this, and i have a graphic tablet, but 1,i dont want to scratch it bc i use it for drawing xd (idk if its really bad for the tablet, but i want to avoid that, i dont want to waste my money xd) and 2, i have really ass coordination, like, i have to use the same and for everything, bc i cant time my two hands, only one at a time. Have a good day.
@tarragon11213 күн бұрын
@@ZEUSTHEGOD___ you can hover your pen above the tablet while playing to avoid scratching it
@Jarran2RАй бұрын
fun fact: the guy that karl talked to to help make this video (sytho) was also the same guy that made the map that raised enough suspicion for cloutiful for the osureport thread to be made
@Someone-ov1ro3 күн бұрын
Sytho my goat got carpal tunnel 😭
@hndldsntzАй бұрын
Carpal tunnel - GOTY edition.
@ouey1354Ай бұрын
@@hndldsntz Sytho who appeared in the video literally got carpal tunnel last week
@inefffableАй бұрын
Osu creator needs to be stopped. /j
@CVireq_Ай бұрын
@@ouey1354 right after his carpal tunnel post didn’t he say that it was probably RSI instead?
@ouey1354Ай бұрын
@@CVireq_ carpal tunnel syndrome is a form of RSI iirc. But maybe he meant a different type of RSI or something.
@CVireq_Ай бұрын
@@ouey1354carpal tunnel can result from RSI but differs because of how it affects the median nerve. RSI heals easier compared to carpal tunnel, so I’m assuming and hoping that it’s only RSI.
@BTMCLiveАй бұрын
63 SPOTTED
@bananamonkeygaming14Ай бұрын
63
@sentimentalskyscraperАй бұрын
please no. we dont need more stupid numbers
@lunchZAАй бұрын
bmc
@PotatoToonАй бұрын
bmc
@fn0vaАй бұрын
bmc
@w4ppleАй бұрын
As someone who has played osu since 2017 as well, you described the nuances of the game extremely well! I think a point that is important to make is that rapid trigger technology (the setting the Wooting is most famous for) is still fairly recent in the scope of the game’s history. A reason cloutiful slipped under the radar is that we have seen players make incredible leaps in speed ability directly resulting from access to this technology. Players like Accolibed, Lifeline, and even mrekk to an extent were aim focused prodigies that adapted to speed with the help of rapid trigger. It’s awesome and scary how much people are improving now, so cloutiful’s skill progression didn’t seem too farfetched until the Snow Goose incident. Great vid you absolute legend!
@tangente00Ай бұрын
but as I am not aware of the game, why is this considered cheating? Isnt it just another technique? Like using a pen?
@cyrilhe1592Ай бұрын
Instead of actually alternating fingers he's doubletapping and it registeres as alternating with the dks stuff which is clearly cheating@@tangente00
@some-guy-in-the-internetАй бұрын
@@tangente00 Cloutiful was just spam tapping two keys at once which takes away the rhythm part of the game. Using a pen still involved a lot of skill for aiming.
@yourpalbryan144224 күн бұрын
@@tangente00so the difference is that the macro Cloutiful was using to suddenly rush the ranks of speed essentially made 1 press into 2: 1 on press and 1 on release, which means a 40 click sequence would only need 20 keypresses and effectively half the effort you need to achieve the equivalent of other speed pros even with rapid trigger and a tablet. Rapid trigger and a tablet makes it less fatigue inducing but you still have a 1:1 keypress to game input ratio and 40 clicks on the game will still need 40 keypresses. Cloutiful's macro trivialises a core skill of Osu, which is cheating. Aiming with a tablet and pen still requires accuracy and Wooting's rapid trigger still requires proper inputs unlike the macro he used
@LiggliluffАй бұрын
(<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="320">5:20</a>) I remember a long time ago when someone controversially suggested using a pen, but now it's the standard. It's fun looking back at this stuff.
@hippochansАй бұрын
its been the standard for like 14 years already with people trying it since 2008 so when you say "long time ago" you must really mean it
@Damaniel3Ай бұрын
The first time I played Osu! was in 2015 (though only briefly; I just picked it up again recently), and tablet was still the main way to play even then.
@LiggliluffАй бұрын
@@hippochans yes I do really mean a long time ago
@delk129919 күн бұрын
@@Liggliluff Lesjuh was the first one to popularize Tablet waaaaaay back then and you're right it was briefly controversial
@Liggliluff18 күн бұрын
@@delk1299 it might have been within a certain community I was getting this from that might have been reluctant to use tablet
@jamilfrost6217Ай бұрын
There's always a cheater around the corner no matter where you go.
@robertbeisert3315Ай бұрын
Sorry, I accidentally activated the "Oops, all cheaters!" code and don't know how to turn it off.
@s4nder86Ай бұрын
Once a cheetah, always a cheetah.
@livinliciousАй бұрын
Everyone is a cheater. I dont believe any speedrun as much as I dont believe any olympic athelete that he isnt juiced.
@EldritchErik94Ай бұрын
Especially if money is involved.
@KRASHPROJECTАй бұрын
Aim Trainers, where the cheaters can't get you
@DeanHerbertMooCowАй бұрын
i never thought i’d see you covering osu!. love your videos ❤
@maybecitrusАй бұрын
actual peppy Dean Herbert himself 😮😮
@SixDigitOsuАй бұрын
PEPPY???? CAN I GET 1PP😢
@teomasАй бұрын
my goat
@amogus9833Ай бұрын
the dean himself
@namecrusherАй бұрын
holy cow the peppster himself?!?!?
@kjyuАй бұрын
That's honestly a very good intro to the basics of the game, done is such a streamlined way, well done!
@3000shiftyАй бұрын
"before the consequences really matter" -Looks at Billy
@kevinjypiter6445Ай бұрын
"2000 PP choke" <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="752">12:32</a>. I am sure you had a chuckle in your mind saying that monotone lol
@LavaCreeperPeopleАй бұрын
Nice
@2bqcАй бұрын
What have you done...
@fewless06Ай бұрын
Its quite common to formulate it that way in the osu community, so it wouldn't really sound that funny to anyone familiar with the game
@go_goldenАй бұрын
@@fewless06 🤓
@imchakrawarriorАй бұрын
When I started osu it was always funny seeing how common the phrases like, man I love pp or I’ve choked so much pp are but you get used to it lol
@alh-xj6gtАй бұрын
This made me feel old. I am old. But this really made me feel old. Glad that I switched over to TASs and finding enjoyment in solving the puzzles outside of my restricted physical performance. My wrists and fingers hurt just from watching this. Absolutely insane dexterity I wish that their hands will not hurt for a decade or more, and may the inevitable tendonitis only kick in like with my age past 40 or older.
@horsma206423 күн бұрын
Unfortunately a sizeable amount of the players end up developing various stages of RSI, one of them being Sytho, who Karl mentions as one of the sources for this video, who is currently ranked #8 in the game
@SpydersByte15 күн бұрын
Im about to turn 40 late this year and Ive been a pc gamer since the days of Doom on floppy discs. Luckily I havent had any issues from it yet but Im certainly not looking forward to it >.
@lactofermentationАй бұрын
The thing I'm getting from this sounds like that keyboard would be incredible for extremely fast typists, not just rhythm gamers.
@JaySk8nАй бұрын
absolutely. the technology in this keyboard is absolutely cutting edge, and several of its unique features totally *are* allowed ingame as they dont violate any rules, and have totally pushed the bounds of whats possible in this game in a legal sense
@12345.......Ай бұрын
I can't understand how a game like this is played. It would give me a heart attack
@SkylarTrahanАй бұрын
Just watching it hurts my eyes
@GryphonBlazierАй бұрын
It's quite simple really. Click the circles..... to the beat! *years of tracking and tapping practice later* CIRCLES
@kaimuuАй бұрын
one of the many games that look absolutely impossible at first but as you learn to understand patterns it becomes easier to comprehend
@elizabethwoodley4340Ай бұрын
Yes I had to look away from the gameplay it was hurting my brain 😂
@ananaspiscio3302Ай бұрын
a certain guy almost had a heart attack after a good play (like almost 200bpm)
@maddiemaybeАй бұрын
the guy was cooked from the start, he had garfield kart installed..
@wybrenpolitiek4221Ай бұрын
Oh no I am doomed
@bergrritothebeggoonАй бұрын
No need to be a hater...
@JackTheripper911Ай бұрын
A little confused, is Garfield Kart like Mario Kart but with Garfield? Or is it a program or something of the sort?
@bergrritothebeggoonАй бұрын
@JackTheripper911 just mario kart but garfield. Controls terribly though and the original didnt even have multiplayer functionality.
@legreedysqueegeeАй бұрын
good luck beating me at Garfield Kart!
@biraininhe126 күн бұрын
My brain can't keep up with what happened on the screen.
@SilverRoy212Ай бұрын
Sad that it seems I'm watching more "Speedrun Cheater Caught" videos than "Speedrun New PB/WR" videos lately. But I guess it does makes sense, as there's still a good number of uncaught ones out there. Great video as always!
@mooshiros7053Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="505">8:25</a> I do want to point out that this alone wasn't super suspicious, even if it seems as though a person "wasn't built to tap" like Karl said. In fact, the entire top 3 as of now, being mrekk, accolibed, and lifeline, all used to be considered "aim one tricks" before become top speed players. This is especially notable for accolibed, is currently considered by many to be the second best speed player in the game after aetrna/merami/xeltol, who basically spent his entire osu career doing nothing but speed.
@handsomebear.Ай бұрын
true, but they didn't do it over night
@zeddexelАй бұрын
@handsomebear. honestly cloutiful's speed scores were pretty gradual too. He also was setting some really insane aim plays alongside the speed scores, before gradually switching to becoming a full speed player.
@culwinАй бұрын
It sounds like a lot of these cheaters who get caught are just dumb, and wouldn't get caught if they were a little smarter. That means there are probably cheaters who didn't get caught.
@mooshiros7053Ай бұрын
@@culwin I'm sure there are quite a few top players that are cheating. However, many many top players have played on other peoples' setups (LAN or just at their friend's house or smth), and always stream with handcam and audio, so we can safely say at least those players aren't cheating. Osu basically doesn't have an anticheat at this point, and it's up the community to figure out who is cheating and how, hence r/osureport
@nomore6167Ай бұрын
"I do want to point out that this alone wasn't super suspicious" - Maybe not alone, but wasn't it suspicious that he got so much better while refusing to show his hands (when he previously did show his hands)?
@Catacomb02Ай бұрын
This game gave me wrist pains in both hands. 💀
@actuallynotsteveАй бұрын
It makes me go higher on the spectrum just watching it be played
@lunchZAАй бұрын
I got joint pain and had to retire, it's pretty brutal for your hands/wrists/fingers
@D0NU75Ай бұрын
sometimes i get a Rank S in Thumper to feel like i have 1/8 of the skills speed runners have =(
@rylanasher4756Ай бұрын
@@actuallynotsteve 😂 "aw sh*t. My numbers are going up again."
@iambicpentakill971Ай бұрын
This looks monstrous to play
@luciferofastoraАй бұрын
I recall the Trackmania drama about using Action Keys. I don't recall whether you have have a video on that, so here's my rundown. For the unfamiliar, the "strength" of your steering is important for all sorts of things, but unlike analog joysticks that allow you a range of different steering strengths, keyboard only has 100% or 0%. Nadeo introduced Action Keys that you could toggle to lock your steering to 20%, 40% etc. What one player named Wirtual did was program custom action keys on his keyboard for a more customized input profile. There was a lot of back and forth whether this was okay, whether it would provide an unfair advantage to people who bought more expensive hardware, and so on. As I recall, his records using those action keys got removed, but given the previously ambiguous nature of the rules on the matter, he was not sanctioned further. Why I bring it up is this: Wirtual, as far as I know, never denied it. He got a little squirmy when there was backlash, but I wouldn't hold that against him. That is the critical difference to the cheater mentioned above, as you point out: Cloutiful immediately tried to deny it and cover it up. He knew he wasn't playing fair.
@jkllkj1234529 күн бұрын
Further, Wirtual never hid the action key thing. He had previously talked about using his keyboard in this way publicly several times, and that's why he was surprised by the push back. It makes it very obvious cloutiful knew exactly what he was doing when you compare them.
@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal28 күн бұрын
Wirtual actually made a whole video on that situation and eventually set an even better author time on the map without the use of a wooting so props to him
@butterspice210326 күн бұрын
If y’all want a complete breakdown AND a literal live play-by-play video about the whole situation as it happened, watch BTMC’s video titled “the hours before cloutiful vanished”. It’s a long vid (53 mins long) but it goes to show how much work people do to expose cheaters, and how they’re even able to catch these things.
@SixDigitOsu23 күн бұрын
bmc
@hanthonycАй бұрын
So THATS why literally all Osu players have the same LED keyboard
@estebanodАй бұрын
Wooting 60HE+ ftw Not just for OSU, but for any FPS games It’s a crazy good keyboard Not just because of the hall effect switches but also the software and support by Wooting
@EightCoreАй бұрын
wrong
@FullAltOsuАй бұрын
wooting is pretty popular even outside osu and other rapid trigger keypads like the sayodevice are used by GD players too
@ocococococococococococococ3267Ай бұрын
Yes but it's not because they all cheat and use that macro setting. They use it for the rapid trigger
@FrederickBorneАй бұрын
Wirtual in Trackmania (racing game) got a warning for using custom analog curves (eg. 43% left steering on full press) using the wooting software. Trackmania Devs said it gave an unfair advantage. Cool keyboard though.
@YMilkshakeАй бұрын
This is the first time I've seen someone outside the Osu community explain the game correctly
@glennmorrow2755Ай бұрын
Karl has a knack for that (or hard work research - one of the two)
@admiraltonydawning3847Ай бұрын
@@glennmorrow2755 Couldn't be both?..
@RedSectorAndyАй бұрын
I've always appreciated the fact that Karl consistently does his due diligence when it comes to explaining the speedruns of these games, rather on his own or through the help of the respective speedrunning communities.
@FinnykeАй бұрын
@@glennmorrow2755 He definitely at the very least does proper research and consult active players when covering unfamiliar games
@Archimedes.5000Ай бұрын
How can you even explain this game wrong
@HiddenZabuzaMistАй бұрын
In the fighting game community, we call button presses that register on release negative edge. Negative edge can help with hitting your combos consistently.
@glenndiddyАй бұрын
I respect the arm endurance these guys have to be able to tap the keyboard that fast for that long without permanent RSI. I can play fast on guitar, but that's so much more ergonomic than tapping a keyboard will ever be
@manoftherainshorts9075Ай бұрын
"Your brain being not fast enough to read it" is a normal thing for osu! beginners. People call it "reading the map", and it's a skill players develop alongside their aim abilities and tapping hand stamina. It's super important, and it's normal to not have as novice.
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
Yeah the more hours you get the slower the game time seems to become, very weird how it works.
@artsyscrub3226Ай бұрын
@@Long-Horse The brain is amazing, its probably something that goes all the way back to when we were just animals, having us focus on fast prey to intercept it
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
@artsyscrub3226 but instead of the prey being a fast rabbit, it became a hitcircle 😂🤦🏻♂️ what a evolution.
@HenriqueVieira-wf3leАй бұрын
Wr are still animals, bro @@artsyscrub3226
@JackTheripper911Ай бұрын
@@artsyscrub3226the brain is indeed incredibly interesting and powerful. The evolutionary traits that are ingrained into our brains from hundreds of thousands of years ago are still vital to our functioning (even if the specific reason for using that function has changed over the centuries)
@mrjspeedАй бұрын
Ah, so this is what that pink circle I see on r/place is about...
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
It is haha i didnt know that when i first saw it too, but now its my home.
@isuck6049Ай бұрын
xqc tried to take it down, but they're too big at this point
@BucketGeekАй бұрын
@@isuck6049 osu! players together stronk
@miciso666Ай бұрын
@@isuck6049 xqc VS music weebs. yeah thats a battle u cant win easily...
@cuongieАй бұрын
@@miciso666music weebs is crazy
@Ozzianman25 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="130">2:10</a> I would not even have batted an eye, AI-powered noise cancellation like Krisp and RTX Noise (part of Nvidia Broadcast App now) do a ridiculously good job of removing any keyboard noise.
@robotoboy30Ай бұрын
I've honestly been curious if you would ever cover osu! since it's had a litany of cheaters and stuff lol! So it's fun to see a video on it.
@alacsonsmthАй бұрын
Something not mentioned is that cloutiful was not just a top osu player. There’s a mod called relax that basically turns the game into an aim trainer, and on one particular server, he was rank 3 out of the users of the mod. Combined with the fact that he’s clearly able to tap these maps, and it’s fully possible that he could have made his way up the rankings through pure aim alone. Granted, it would be a lot harder considering that there’s only two aim player currently in the top 10, but it’s certainly doable
@NeroKosoАй бұрын
Assuming he didn't cheat those too.
@alacsonsmthАй бұрын
@@NeroKoso fair point, but also remember that cloutiful spent a long time streaming with a handcam before he started using dks, and even in his current replay, people probably ran the usual tests to see if his cursor matched up with his tablet. So it’s highly likely that his aim is legit.
@NeroKosoАй бұрын
@@alacsonsmth of course I'm not saying all of them would be cheated.. But he could maybe still sneak few in that are cheated. I don't think his record scores were all streamed live. I just get suspicious about it.
@alacsonsmthАй бұрын
@@NeroKoso I mean yeah of course, practically anyone can cheat some scores as long as they look realistic enough. That’s why its so important to have many scores proven legit so that there’s less of a case against you. But people usually cheat out of a mix of frustration and curiosity imo, and I think in cloutiful’s case it was probably frustration at not being able to stream with all the stream farm maps being ranked, and curiosity at how far he could go with this method
@corneliusmcmuffin3256Ай бұрын
@@alacsonsmthwhat’s sad is he probably resorted to his strategy because he physically couldn’t match those on the top and likely would never had. Perhaps if we was built a bit different he could have been number 1 but alas biology denied him and instead of excelling at what he was good at he choose to take preverbal steroids and break rules.
@larryb5677Ай бұрын
The hardest E+ songs on Beat Saber are well beyond me, but I can at least comprehend them. This is just insane. It looks like something that Star Trek writers made for Data to show off his inhuman skills or something.
@PepesmallАй бұрын
Lol this is like that game from Peak Performance, that's hilarious.
@elifiaАй бұрын
You can comprehend the hardest Beat Saber maps? I can't. Even just sticking to the official maps, I'm currently struggling to beat Light It Up, and at the hardest part of that one I cannot consciously follow what's going on at all, I basically have to turn my brain off and let my hands move on their own. My hands have not yet managed to get through it in a proper run, but they've gotten close.
@larryb5677Ай бұрын
@@elifia I can't even beat the fast maps like Camellia on Expert, much less E+. But I can see the blocks, they're just coming way too fast for my sad, pathetic reflexes to do anything about them. But it still seems like something humans might actually be able to do. (The FOB pack is a fun one)
@larryb5677Ай бұрын
(And I've never tried modding. It just seems like a colossal pain.)
@elifiaАй бұрын
@@larryb5677 Sounds like you have the opposite problem of what I have then. When I mess up it's usually either because I failed to identify the colour/direction of a block correctly, or because my aim was off. And some songs have these sections where there's just a bunch of blocks really closely behind each other requiring you to basically move the sabers up and down to the rhythm instead of based on sight/reflexes, I *really* suck at those parts because I basically have no rhythm. I don't have any of the DLC, I prefer to just get custom songs from mods. However, I have beaten all non-DLC maps on Expert, and on Expert+ the only ones I have not yet beaten are the Dragonforce one and all Camellia ones except Crystallized (Expert+ Crystallized was substantially easier than the other Expert+ Camellia ones for me).
@etaosin18 күн бұрын
I will have a fantastic day because of this amazing video this morning. Thank you very much. I love these kinds of stories where not only are interesting cases shown, but details are explained in a way that allows me to learn something new.
@bschneidez5 күн бұрын
Thoughout all the opening b-roll, I legit thought that the numbers each represent a specific number key that was being pressed
@RonJomeroАй бұрын
My first thought was, "this reminds me of the Ouendan game I loved that I had imported from Japan almost 20 years ago." And then after googling, holy crap it is inspired by that game! Why have I not heard about this until now?!
@darkness74185Ай бұрын
because Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan's an incredibly niche game, and at this point Osu!'s popularity is so high it drowns out what little popularity the original had on the internet
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
Yeah its from that game mate, peppy was inspired by it.
@lutt6796Ай бұрын
@@darkness74185 that's literally what he said, "i loved Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan, how have i not heard of osu!"
@jebussonofgobАй бұрын
Ouendan 1 and 2 never released in the US but we did get Elite Beat Agents for the DS. I loved all 3 of those.
@fyve2806Ай бұрын
Welcome to osu!
@dennis07reyesАй бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="460">7:40</a> I was, sadly, not built to tap 😔
@12345.......Ай бұрын
But he can juggle blindfolded 🙃
@jiaan100Ай бұрын
I was, sadly, not built to top
@bendykid4908Ай бұрын
Yeah, me neither.
@snooganslestat2030Ай бұрын
@@jiaan100😂
@AxcyantolАй бұрын
I got 200 clicks per second because my tester froze lol
@bawlout9367Ай бұрын
i stopped the video midway to download this game looks like alot of fun! thanks KArl!
@ocococococococococococococ3267Ай бұрын
wish you good luck, hope you find good maps and don't land on the bad ones
@detectivefischer6396Ай бұрын
Update?
@bawlout9367Ай бұрын
@@detectivefischer6396 it's fun for sure but they have a bunch of other game types, big learning curve.
@_x9.18 күн бұрын
dang, kinda sucks seeing a lot of comments having a distaste towards osu. But I suppose its normal because the gameplay seems lame and the community is typically degenerate. I really only play for the aiming aspect that I find fun.
@seifinator4723Ай бұрын
Damn never thought i'd hear the words "2000PP choke" today
@cuentaeliminada7176Ай бұрын
Fun fact! The name originates from a very obscure Nintendo game called "Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!" which was the original Osu! down to the mechanics and style
@ArchibaldClumpyАй бұрын
Released in the West with different songs as Elite Beat Agents.
@oedipamaas2067Ай бұрын
isnt osu how gyaru greet people
@CNYKnifeNutАй бұрын
I'm not sure you understand what obscure means
@HeavyMetalMouseАй бұрын
@@oedipamaas2067 To my limited understanding 'osu!' is a strange sort of exclamation sort of a "hell yes!" or a "yo!" depending on context, with a very masculine/assertive sort of connotation. Another example of its use in media is in the anime Hunter X Hunter, where it is used as a sort of energetic 'yes!' by a young martial arts student; sort of 'filled with determination' kind of exclamation of acknowledgement. All of this seems to fit in well with where it sits in the title of the Ouendan game, particularly as it is exclaimed at the start and end of every level. It's a very 'hype' sort of exclamation. :)
@fabiosonhandogrande1697Ай бұрын
@@CNYKnifeNutObscure can also mean "not well known"
@billykidman2091Ай бұрын
"I AM CHEATING I AM LITERALLY CHEATING" almost collapsed in a parking lot laughing to myself at that.
@wootle26 күн бұрын
I know the subject of this video is the cheater but the real star is the sheer amazing gameplay. I mean the twitch skills on display here are inhuman! Jitter style? 15 taps/sec? Keep entire arm tensed? Look at the skill needed to aim in this game. Madness and so cool. Excellent video as always!
@BrickWallzАй бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="868">14:28</a> In real time, the key stroke was held for 42ms. 63ms is the number that appears on the replays due to the double time multiplier set at x 1.5 in the game's internal clock. On Cloutiful's non doubletime replays the hold time is 42ms because the game's clock for normal speed is set to x1.
@BrickWallzАй бұрын
@sirmeowsalot9314Got 25x more likes, but who's counting 😂 Thank you for your time in finding my comment 🫡
@gamingmoyai3950Ай бұрын
Yeah, I watched this happen live. Crazy stuff.
@zefzimaАй бұрын
Its true. Im the cheater and saw this guy staring into my soul.
@namthezooАй бұрын
Yeah lmao I was on his stream too when he was saying "I'm literally cheating" lmao. I actually thought he was legit (before all the accusations)
@DaveVinerАй бұрын
Only Karl can make me want to watch a 20 minute video about a cheater in a game I've never heard of.
@Ca5pRАй бұрын
karl jobster the lobster covering one of my fave games?? is this heaven or am i just dreaming?
@Ghost-np2eyАй бұрын
I think osu was the first skill game i watched. Watching the top players is like trying to keep up with a computer doing advanced calculus in real time. You just started and its already on page 5
@thecolorgreen9022Ай бұрын
hardly skill based when you have to gave specific genetics to be able to tap faster than others to compete in top 100
@daiko6019Ай бұрын
@@thecolorgreen9022lol
@CVireq_Ай бұрын
@@thecolorgreen9022plasma is an aim player in the top 100 . Also with that logic basketball takes no skill because tall people have an advantage.
@pablon333Ай бұрын
@@thecolorgreen9022don't try to get better at anything then, it all boils down to genetics LOL
@wishing_pearlАй бұрын
@ImLazyfrfrnow that I'm 90k~ rank and can pass 8* aim maps and many techs I'm done with my skill grind, I can play any map I want to and I like how my time spent is now worth
@meepilee7991Ай бұрын
Man its so much weirder when the Karl Jobst video is actually about a game you play, thank you for doing this topic justice!
@Sadeness99Ай бұрын
What is lagtrain
@fate9567Ай бұрын
@@Sadeness99song
@meepilee7991Ай бұрын
@@Sadeness99 the best
@snaz27Ай бұрын
Never heard of this game, don't have any interest in it, never going to play it but I still find your content to be really good and I watch till the end! Keep up the great work! 👊
@GamewizDeluxe13 күн бұрын
I'm sure gaming hardware companies like razer would NEVER sell this keypress "feature" for a premium price 😂
@EinfachLuapАй бұрын
"you're either built to tap or not" is actually pretty accurate. I was a top player years ago, reaching rank 250, becoming national champion and being world cup captain for my country twice, so its fair to say that I was tryharding quite a bit. I did all that with hardrock though. I literally could not do speed. If I was warmed up and did proper exercises I could for a bit play speedy stuff but it would usually just end up with me getting cramps in my hands or my fingers locking up. You either have speed or you don't, no way to train it. (I obviously mean REALLY high leveL stuff here(
@notyourdad9548Ай бұрын
Alright grandpa
@TRAMP-olineАй бұрын
@@notyourdad9548 delete your comment
@william4996Ай бұрын
Even looking it on a smaller scale. I know people who just CAN'T do any mario party minigames that require rapid button tapping. The just suck. I'm not amazing but I can do it pretty well. Thing is I've never been able to get substantially better. I seem to always just be the same lol.
@EinfachLuapАй бұрын
@@notyourdad9548 literally lol
@EinfachLuapАй бұрын
@@william4996 Oh absolutely. That's why I always find it incredibly funny when people talk about "just play more" in this context, while they're just incredibly gifted at speed. I remember seeing some 5 digits that were actual speed gods but lacked in every other department. While I was very good at everything OTHER than speed. :P
@mattguy1773Ай бұрын
Osu is the finest hyperfixation I’ve ever seen
@mikeydflyingtoasterАй бұрын
Sorry? What’s Osu? I have no idea wh… Oh, you mean Osu!. Nah, I don’t think anyone is hyperfixated on it. Just SPELL. IT. RIGHT!!!
@ChaosEater39Ай бұрын
@@mikeydflyingtoaster ?????
@NitrecintАй бұрын
That's funny because every once in a while I forget it exists lol.
@S1lv3r1Ай бұрын
@@mikeydflyingtoaster If you're gonna be pedantic, at least be correct. The O isn't capitalized.
@BBMortiАй бұрын
@@mikeydflyingtoaster Get your autism under control
@TattootinАй бұрын
It should be called “whoa, I think I’m about to pass out”.
@TrashPoetАй бұрын
just hearing their keyboard assured me right away, this isnt a game i could even begin, insane speed and insane precision.
@theflint7692Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="558">9:18</a> elite drummers call this "valving" --using alternating fingers to push the back of the stick "up" and thus, on the other side of the fulcrum, the front of the stick "down" into the head. The cool thing is, the stick rebounds from the drum, back into the starting position, so you only have to do the positive portion of the stroke. Alternating two fingers is, theoretically, twice as many strokes.
@imchakrawarriorАй бұрын
The rhythm game taiko uses this and has a different name
@puckeringsАй бұрын
Do these drummers not realize that they're cheating???
@catagamasАй бұрын
@@puckerings it's a different game, it's allowed there
@loldoctorАй бұрын
@@puckerings just exploiting the physics engine
@Matsubusa69Ай бұрын
Never expected a Jobst Osu vid
@ninomusic1492Ай бұрын
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
@itchiegamesАй бұрын
the best part is he found out he wasnt saying the name right but didnt have enough respect for this dumb shit to change it.
@cuddlequeen3225Ай бұрын
If there's a cheater Karl will be there to tell us about it.
@qo1rGDАй бұрын
I saw him say it on twitter
@bl4ckout36Ай бұрын
bro is a savage
@fatmanjonestv7143Ай бұрын
It seems like a lot of people get tired of being great but not great “enough”
@Toliman.Ай бұрын
It's probably the temptation that is hard to avoid if you're okay but not peak/top of the ranks, and once you're in that mindset and mentality, you're not aiming to cheat, you're aiming to do the best. The problem with skill games is, you can't get better easily. Biology kicks in, Carpal Tunnel, Age, Nerve/compression damage, sic. You slow down, need more recovery time, et al. So there's a need to peak. To hit a good rank, and then retire. Multiply that by every player wanting rank play. But, temptation is always around the corner. Competition breeds inadequacy, and this is the true test of character. Are you the person that changes, or does the competition change you to pull down other people so there's room to grow. Do you start banding together, or pulling people down to get ahead. Do you gather people who are weaker so you feel stronger despite the lack of progression, etc. When you start comparing yourself to others, becoming elitist or changing your perspective on others, etc. Hence the community starts to pull apart others to find their 'magic', in order to gain something from them. Long-term Competition drives people to make irrational moves to advance, the problem being one of crabs-in-a-bucket. Once one person gets a lead up, the others drag them back in because they also want to escape their current position and replace the other person. The wooting keyboard was likely the temptation that drove people to make choices they wouldn't have thought about.
@falconmickАй бұрын
I can’t believe how far this game has come since I used to play it at RFLan on a dedicated touchscreen system
@pokeybitАй бұрын
The recurring theme. Genius players throw it all away looking for that extra edge as Karl said. Turning to the dark side. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="160">2:40</a>
@NerfPlayeR135Ай бұрын
Remember, good players don't cheat to get good times. They cheat to get good times faster. ...Or in this case, to rise up the ranks faster.
@axtra9561Ай бұрын
yeah he throws away all 10$ a month he probably made from like 7 years of effort 😂
@ScribeLightАй бұрын
All I can think of when watching these players is that they are speed-running the onset of carpal tunnel and arthritis.
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
That is a false rumor made up to put down video games, think of a guitarist or any musician like that, you hold your hand in much more difficult positions and do much harsher things to your fingers and hands than tapping fast on a keyboard, i have played guitar for over 15 years now and osu for over 3 and my hands are stronger and more precise than ever before, it can cause pain and issues if you are dumb and juts push past a pain barrier which would be the same for anything, a map on average lasts about 3-4 mins long and you can take as long as a break between every map you like, it is the individuals fault if they get RSI or carpal tunnel from any from of gaming or osu or music in general you have to be rather stupid in my opinion
@randomdeliveryguyАй бұрын
@@Long-Horse "Playing the guitar requires rapid movement of all fingers for an extended period of time. This produces one of the most common “overuse” musculoskeletal disorders today, called carpal tunnel syndrome. Anybody who uses their hand for rapid and repetitive activities is at high risk for getting this painful condition."
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
@randomdeliveryguy yeah but you can feel the pain building up, and this is when you take a break, if you persist through the pain then of course you can cause damage, it's like saying the gym causes damage to your body, it's inherently wrong but if you go to the gym and do 2000 squads with no break your gonna hurt yourself.
@randomdeliveryguyАй бұрын
@@Long-Horse Depends, sometimes when the pain comes it's too late. It's not as easy as that, even tho I understand a lot of cases could be prevented if people actually heard more their bodies screaming for help. I know someone who has it and he didn't really start feeling anything until it was too late.
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
@randomdeliveryguy yeah I can see that with a few people, but most people should know there limits and if you don't you should learn them really.
@stinkymart317327 күн бұрын
That "streaming" trick is basically double-bass kicking in metal but for rhythm games
@aliasalias8681Күн бұрын
I love your content, your delivery, subject matter, manner of speaking, I guess that’s sort of the same as delivery, but still it feels different, all great. If I were to sign for your Patreon, what sort of bonuses would I get? Is the amount of additional content worth it? You rarely seem to speak of such things.
@NatiiixLPАй бұрын
He actually made a video on the topic, what an absolute legend. Now B(T)MC will have yet another video to react to that's not from within the osu! community.
@tetradogeАй бұрын
I've been playing osu for 4 years and I think it's crazy how cheating has affected osu in general. You have cases where top players cheat on purpose to get themselves banned so they can quit (cookizei), cheaters that ended up being legit and become top players (ryuk) , players that get accused of being cheaters that we still don't know if they were or weren't (legendre), and then ofcourse cheaters that get caught and are removed from the game for good(cloutiful). It's not just one type of cheating that occurs like traditional games, it's a somehow diverse and broad perspective on what it means to cheat at osu. Edit: ryuk is a better example than WhiteCat since his situation was different
@Andref727Ай бұрын
WhiteCat has never cheated, and Legendre has obviously cheated on multiple occasions
@themedallistАй бұрын
Whitecat never cheated but an example of a cheater who became a top player is ryuk who used to be hated and zylice
@oz_jonesАй бұрын
@@Andref727was this revealed to you in a dream?
@osuplaeyurreallygoodАй бұрын
why did you mention whitecat? he never cheated... RyuK is an example of a cheater who became a legit top player
@osuplaeyurreallygoodАй бұрын
man just delete this comment you're cooked
@Shadow86TheGamer22 күн бұрын
So these people are also gods in fps games, i would assume? That is insane reaction speed, inhuman.
@Megamannerd4lifeАй бұрын
"Look at me when i'm talking to you! You're sitting here and telling me "I'm not good enough for you!""
@reignfire85Ай бұрын
I will say that Osu! is a game that has a nice visual design, but goddamn, I can't even begin to imagine how difficult it is to develop top-level skills for it. Just watching that really floors me to see people blitz through with such precision when I can barely even follow it with my eyes alone. That said, glad that the community has such attentive members smoking out less-than-honest persons. Cheating is never worth it.
@TheYouTubeGameАй бұрын
Personally I like the keyboard/piano mode, osu!mania a lot better. Easier in some ways, harder in others.
@jesseschuberg1878Ай бұрын
I have been playing the game for 3 years and spent around 200 hours of playtime (not counting being in the menu or having the game in the background, just gameplay) and I am still rank 400k. You can get good at the game without being cut out for clicking circles, but some people just don't have the genetics to play this game like me haha.
@TheDevilchillyАй бұрын
@@jesseschuberg1878 200 hours in 3 years is not a lot of time tbf, it is a very demanding game the harder the content gets
@pelicanineАй бұрын
I play another rhythm game, sort of like guitar hero but a little different. I remember when I first started the game I was AWFUL, and thought "how the hell do people even play this?!" as it was so fast and my brain couldn't keep up. I decided to keep playing and now the fastest parts feel slow. I totally get how this would apply with Osu but like... Top level play is INSANE in this game
@Astra3ytАй бұрын
What I find interesting about the visual design is that the new client, osu!(lazer) is also an open-source project, meaning it's probably the only open-source game that's actually being played.
@daserfomalhaut9809Ай бұрын
"I'm just not a hands on kind of guy" >Plays guitar >Tries every game he covers to learn how it works >Plays piano >Video edits Karl selling himself MAD short.
@isaacshepard1474Ай бұрын
Wow this really went outside the whole osu! crowd
@SixDigitOsuАй бұрын
it's a fairly big occurence though Top 3 in the world, potential next top 1 caught cheating
@F00m0nch00Ай бұрын
Ah, Osu!, the rhythm game where every song in existence somehow gains the beat of a minigun.
@Map_of_Your_HeadАй бұрын
and i thought cheating in guitar hero was weird
@secondghostАй бұрын
It is to me but that is why I watch these videos. It's interesting to me how far some people will go to get the number 1 spot through illegitimate means. These people have to be smart enough to know that their footage is going to face heavy scrutiny whether or not the footage is legit. Yet they still do it 😂
@Map_of_Your_HeadАй бұрын
@@secondghost incredibly accurate response. definitely enjoy the "ingenuity" of some of these cheaters trying to get away with it and getting called out
@wizardsmix7961Ай бұрын
Guitar hero cheating is essentially a dinosaur compared to osu. The methods used in GH were things people did 10 years ago in osu.
@Long-HorseАй бұрын
@@wizardsmix7961 Yeah osu replay hacks can be pretty crazy, dont see why you would bother tho, the game is all about individual skill your only cheating yourself if you do, like cheating at solitaire, kind of sad.
@nitro292Ай бұрын
@@wizardsmix7961doesn’t make it any less odd and weird
@saturnsbeltsАй бұрын
This kind of reminds me of the whole SpaceUK situation with Geometry Dash, where he was a genuinely skilled and talented player, almost beating one of the hardest levels of the time as his 3rd(?) level of that difficulty category but unknowingly turning on cheats right at the end. He was such a good player at the time and the run was so accurate that he wasn’t under any suspicion, and from there it basically spiraled, with him hacking every level after that, just to see how long he could go without being caught
@AaronSiegel001Ай бұрын
Same
@bluestorm749Ай бұрын
Please rewatch Karl's video again. The level was indeed extremely hard, but it was one of the easiest of that difficulty category (I believe it was somewhere around number 80 on the leaderboard. Not an easy achievement by any means, but pretty far from the highest level of play). Also it wasn't accidental. He got 96% and lost, so out of frustration he used a TAS to finish. From then on absolutely every single achievement of his was cheated. Including stealing a few first clears of extremely hard levels.
@saturnsbeltsАй бұрын
@@bluestorm749 First of all, it was on The Golden, which I’m pretty sure at the time was well within the top 10. Second, towards the end he accidentally hit a keybind that turned on noclip, and he himself along with the rest of the community believed that it was a legitimate completion because of how close SpaceUK was to actually dying, which would have happened twice had he not turned on noclip.
@gdbluefirre6749Ай бұрын
@@bluestorm749spaceuk went from decode, to an insane demon, to a top 50 to a top 8. That is insanely fast and in a stupid amount of time.
@gdbluefirre6749Ай бұрын
At the time top 50 and top 8*
@hindae085Ай бұрын
Out of curiosity I tried those tapping techniques myself that you showed. My arm got tired in seconds lol these people are crazy. Extremely skilled, but crazy lmao. Since the underlying skill is obviously there I wonder if this guy could ever come back and earn trust back? I'm not sure.
@mjw66529 күн бұрын
My hands cry in arthritis.
@gmarchildonАй бұрын
"One day after his 2000 pp choke ..." please never change Karl
@thewiseoldfoxАй бұрын
It's a real term in the community tho 💀
@tayunoАй бұрын
osu players always abbreviate everything for easier communication, so we do indeed call it "pp". nobody ever says "performance points", but this isn't the only example, as we also call the modifications by their abbreviations for example. "doubletime" turns into "dt", "hard rock" into "hr", "hidden" into "hd" and so on. we even abbreviate the standard gameplay of not using anything down to "nm" for "no modifications" so this isn't even a karl thing, but rather an osu thing. osu players say the funny word daily.
@user-ln3kr4wp2kАй бұрын
I dont think anyone says hd,we just call it hidden @@tayuno
@JustMatchmakingАй бұрын
@@user-ln3kr4wp2kIt's still abbreviated in text discussions and the mod menu of a lot of skins though.
@InfernallosuАй бұрын
eh it depends tbh
@willi1802Ай бұрын
This is like the best researched information about a topic in osu! I've ever seen. Of course me and other osu!players understand most of this easier than non-osu!players. But still this was explained so well and on point.
@prvtthd40118 күн бұрын
This all wouldn't have happened if he didn't scream: "I'M LITERALLY CHEATING" 😂
@jaminschmittАй бұрын
I never even heard of this game until this very minute.
@ZephyrGlazeАй бұрын
Damn I need a big cheating scandal to hit my Music Rhythm game so Karl can cover it.
@hairymcnipplesАй бұрын
wondering when a cheating scandal will hit theatrhythm final fantasy
@cuddlecakes7153Ай бұрын
I wouldn't really call it a rhythm game, it doesn't follow a beat or anything
@stylinsandwichАй бұрын
@@cuddlecakes7153 osu?
@CVireq_Ай бұрын
@@cuddlecakes7153 bait or…
@abstract7272Ай бұрын
@@CVireq_ I kind of see why he said it. As an Osu player for over 6 years now, you barely follow the beat of the song and just look at the circle and click it by muscle memory, especially stream maps. Osu!Standard is more of an aim game rather than a Rhythm game itself.
@JacobSnoverАй бұрын
Death metal drummers use a finger technique sometimes to bounce the stick very quickly off the drum, maybe that can be used in this game.
@zZSleepytimeZzАй бұрын
It kind of is, you cant exactly start pushing your keys upward on a keyboard to decrease the amount of time it takes to start pressing down again but people do wiggle their hand to increase the speed that their fingers are moving.
@miciso666Ай бұрын
@@zZSleepytimeZz yes u can.... keyboards exist now with keycaps that can trigger on PRESS and or RELEASE same technology used in the ps2 controller. yes thats painfull. a PS2 controller had this tech and yet sony ditched it.
@zZSleepytimeZzАй бұрын
@@miciso666 what you just said is literally what this video is about, pressing a button being 2 actions instead of 1 is considered cheating. Relating having a secondary action for a key when released to drumming is like imagining when a drummer lifts his stick he hits another drum that was above, its nowhere near the same thing i or the original comment described.
@MaluuhАй бұрын
I think something like that is used in taiko
@roybatty-11 күн бұрын
I wonder how many cheaters have gotten away with it and will never get caught?
@baseult116Ай бұрын
He literally had the "Wootility" desktop icon, right above the osu icon. How did people not notice that? It was so obvious...
@glumbo6455Ай бұрын
Wootility isn't bannned, anyone using a wooting keyboard uses it but certain settings like dks are against the rules. So him having it on his desktop was fine.
@teo_heelАй бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="422">7:02</a> - I didn't expect to hear Eric Saade's song "Popular" from Eurovision Song Contest 2011.
@teo_heelАй бұрын
@sirmeowsalot9314 hate that song... mostly because of the controversy surrounding the live performance at ESC 2011 with additional rehearsals and all that stuff...
@iLikePie-lg2tjАй бұрын
Same
@chriselunewinterholdАй бұрын
same, my interests unexpectedly colliding is always fun tho
@boopdino805323 күн бұрын
STOP DON'T SAY THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE CAUSE I KNOW IT'S POSSIBLE🗣️🔥
@teo_heel23 күн бұрын
@@boopdino8053 Don't remind me...
@IsuKenАй бұрын
It's a shame that some people are so obsessed with being number one that they don't appreciate their own talent.
@-umnica-Ай бұрын
No one cares about number two in any solo sport, because any achievement can and will be replicated and surpassed When you spend all your mental capacity for 5 years and longer, spend over $2k for a gaming setup that does not even include a PC itself... To be short - there's all your ego on the line
@NickGarrettАй бұрын
Mad respect for the Perfect Dark menu music!!!
@HEARTS-OF-SPACEАй бұрын
How have I never even heard of this game?!
@SixDigitOsuАй бұрын
osu! is only big when compared to other rhythm games, overall it's small
@pika412623 күн бұрын
give osu a shot it’s never too late to start. you don’t have to be the best to have fun although the beginner maps tend to be flooded with anime songs
@RisingRevengeanceАй бұрын
The tensing for jitter presses in games was something I did often as a teenager. Probably why my hand is fucked these days. As a 31 year old I can still do it if I accept that my wrist will sting for the rest of the day. I'm amazed these guys can do that day after day, but they probably take better care to avoid issues.
@slendok496022 күн бұрын
Difference between a 95 and a 100 % play in osu can be like doubling the performance points making jitter tapping actually mostly useless in osu as it isnt controlled, people only use it to play things outside of their skill range. Most people will be fine in osu if they stop playing the moment it hurts(alotta people still cant manage that)
@Fatone85Ай бұрын
Karl! I hope everything is good with you. Best of luck with the incoming B$ trial!
@itchiegamesАй бұрын
thats true! he said its a bs trial so it is! man lol @ him if he loses it tho. like fr all that shit talk if the clown gamer gets the W on him its joever
@superanimeniacАй бұрын
@@itchiegamesimagine still simping for Billy after his embarrassing deposition.
@manuelpatino7863Ай бұрын
@@itchiegamesYour grammar hurts my eyes.
@matohibikiАй бұрын
@@superanimeniac Imagine simping for Billy after listening to him talk for more than 15 seconds. He talks like he discovered penicillin, and single handedly won the cold war, all by making a giant pixellated monkey fall down.
@aadfg0Ай бұрын
@@itchiegames You hate him cuz you anus
@DerMannInDerWandАй бұрын
"Two thousand PP choke" hit me like a freight train
@feni007Ай бұрын
Forget entering the top 100 in this game, I can't even watch this video. Had to swap to audio only. Just watching their gameplay made my head start to hurt.