70s Ludwig White Marine Pearl for $75.00 (Restoration & Demo)

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Mike Malone

Mike Malone

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out this video! If you enjoyed it, please consider giving it a thumbs up and subscribing to my channel to stay up to date on regular releases.
This kit was a rare opportunity to pick up an authentic set of vintage American drums for a steal. I hope you enjoyed the restoration of the kit, and the sound demos.
As mentioned in the video, if you're in the market for drum parts on projects like this check out www.drumfactorydirect.com
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@HankNinja
@HankNinja 3 жыл бұрын
Ringo’s solo was a nice touch
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I played them, I had that exact sound in my head, so I had to include it!
@drummerkev1627
@drummerkev1627 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely done! I love seeing drummers repair drums like this to their original condition! You should be proud of your great work!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@pauldrumstimelessmusic1069
@pauldrumstimelessmusic1069 3 жыл бұрын
I think that kit is a keeper. Warm sound. Great job restoring it.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I think it turned out amazing, but I did sell it. I’m not a user of big drums, so it’s just a tough fit for me personally.
@frankkonwinski9505
@frankkonwinski9505 2 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum 6
@bpcsurfboards3110
@bpcsurfboards3110 6 ай бұрын
Just curious what they sold for. @@malonedrum
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 6 ай бұрын
@@bpcsurfboards3110 I don’t really disclose my personal sales of stuff on the channel, but these kits can go from anywhere like $800 - $2500 depending on the condition and finish.
@johndorohovich3367
@johndorohovich3367 4 ай бұрын
Great restoration, you salvaged a piece of history
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@crlaw75
@crlaw75 8 ай бұрын
Good idea about the organization of parts per drum.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 8 ай бұрын
I usually learn these things from wishing I did it on previous projects.
@aking8477
@aking8477 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome man. I love videos like this!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@lagartogrande1908
@lagartogrande1908 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Fine restore job. My kit. Ludwig. White marine pearl. Aug 29 1960 stamped in the shells. People say they want to buy them, I say nawww.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@SuperheroJunior
@SuperheroJunior 4 ай бұрын
​@@malonedrum Ludwig makes such beautiful drumkits 🥁 Ringo Star from the Beatles band made Ludwig famous.
@ibleebinU
@ibleebinU 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job, great deal and they sound so warm and mellow as they should. I would love to have a 60's - 70's kit like these. Nicely done Mike.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a 60s-70s era kit is a great compliment to something more contemporary.
@bjornskristensen
@bjornskristensen 2 жыл бұрын
A beautiful set well restored back to its old grandeur! A very interesting and very instructive video! Thanks!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@mpcvore
@mpcvore 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, wonderful kit...! Bravo...!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RHawbaker
@RHawbaker 2 жыл бұрын
What a bargain! Anyone would be happy to own a kit like this! Great job Mike!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out Reagan! It was quite the deal.
@marcgingergagne6701
@marcgingergagne6701 Жыл бұрын
Great Job and Perfect tunning range ! They way they should be 👍
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the kind words!
@johnvanover6285
@johnvanover6285 Жыл бұрын
Great work! You did something I would appreciate ! You put everything back like it should be. Respect!!!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrSalocio
@MrSalocio 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a deal and nice work on the restoration!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, it was surely an amazing deal that doesn't come up to often!
@courtbeall7768
@courtbeall7768 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome sounding kit.loved the first rack and kick the most but all are studs.Well done man.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, wonderful set of drums. Thanks for checking it out
@peak5154
@peak5154 2 жыл бұрын
Those toms sound real nice. Love ‘em.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@djmaxamillionpdx
@djmaxamillionpdx 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man, thanks for sharing!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out!
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
I just rewrapped my 60s Ludwigs. Amazing how much just cleaning the hardware improved the look. I used a product called Barkeepers Friend. Never heard the aluminum foil trick. I had to either sell them or my Roland set. Did the next best thing. Converted the Ludwigs to edrums and Im loving them.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Converting a 60s Ludwig to an e kit sounds pretty funny. Would love to see some pics of that!
@leosanchezjr850
@leosanchezjr850 Жыл бұрын
Nice kit man, I really like the wrap on this kit.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
It’s a classic!
@DrummerDanny76
@DrummerDanny76 Жыл бұрын
These Ludwig drums came out great !!!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@vincentbuonora8477
@vincentbuonora8477 2 жыл бұрын
You did a really good job….especially on reattaching the pearl wrap. Bass hoops and polishing
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I’m pretty proud of how this one turned out, and I hope to have more opportunities for kit restorations in due time. Plenty of other projects videos coming soon though.
@JennyZTVee
@JennyZTVee 8 ай бұрын
Sounds amazing!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Jenny!
@jiffy59
@jiffy59 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool restore I played those drums in the 1970s and high school band
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! My HS had an old 60s Rogers kit in WMP. I didn’t appreciate in the moment, but afterwards.
@SaS-Music
@SaS-Music 3 жыл бұрын
This is giving me Ludwig-envy. Nice job!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I’ve been there with ya before!
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez Жыл бұрын
nice project! kudos.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@richarddrake2331
@richarddrake2331 2 жыл бұрын
They sound great! Good job. Richard
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard!
@earldrum
@earldrum 3 жыл бұрын
Great find … nice restoration!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the midwest is flooded with old Ludwig kits. Very lucky to be up here in it!
@joesmithva757
@joesmithva757 Жыл бұрын
Those drums look and sound great! $75 was a steal!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chriswright8464
@chriswright8464 2 жыл бұрын
Sound fantastic!!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@terrintinovalentine8567
@terrintinovalentine8567 Жыл бұрын
Yes they do , nice they sound really good .
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@StuartJrBarrett
@StuartJrBarrett 3 жыл бұрын
Great tuning!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I kind of just let the drums sit where they wanted and played them. Def got heavy Beatles vibe from “The End”
@dionnedrummer7430
@dionnedrummer7430 3 жыл бұрын
What a great score!!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Hopefully not the last, but surely one of the best I’ve ever had.
@pfmdude
@pfmdude 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video. As someone who just joined the Ludwig drum family last month, I can honestly say I've never been more happy to be playing the greatest drums ever made. I previously owned an 80's Sonor Phonic kit for 17 years! It was bittersweet selling it but having the opportunity to own an early 70's Oyster Blue Pearl Bowling Ball kit was amazing. My dad had one back in the 70's and this just felt right. It's needed some work but it's all minor stuff and it sounds amazing. That perfect 70's vibe. Keep up the amazing work! -Paul from Milwaukee
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, glad you like it! I’m not too far from you in Northeast Wisconsin!
@AddiKolb
@AddiKolb Жыл бұрын
Bro I have a 75’ phonic kit, those drums are one of a kind and are close to impossible to find in great condition! Amazing drums, some of the best!
@pfmdude
@pfmdude Жыл бұрын
@Miraltram honestly, the more I play Ludwigs, the less and less I miss the Phonic drums. I guess it was just a phase that happened to last 17 years. I still respect them and Sonor will always hold a special place in my heart.
@ralphbenites1819
@ralphbenites1819 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the restoration 🥁
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ralph!
@arboldigital6310
@arboldigital6310 2 жыл бұрын
The best 132 dollars kit ever!!! Killer kit!!!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
It’s certainly up there I imagine!
@prodrummerbill
@prodrummerbill 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work, Mike!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill!
@ruairilogan153
@ruairilogan153 11 ай бұрын
This is such great content
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@BRANDONMUNROMUSIC
@BRANDONMUNROMUSIC 2 жыл бұрын
These sound soo good
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, nothing like a well aged Ludwig!
@the_katman2181
@the_katman2181 Жыл бұрын
Man, that's money well spent. Beautiful drums.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
I completely agree!
@malcolmporter8158
@malcolmporter8158 Жыл бұрын
I had a set from the early 60's. My snare was from 1959. Had to let them go a few years back. Sure miss them. 😢
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
I don't think anybody looks back at getting rid of drums for this era and doesn't regret, you're not alone!
@brothermike2506
@brothermike2506 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2 of these kits been tore down forever but am inspired to get going on them.nice kit thought I did well at under 150.00 ea set but need much more work( rewrap) than yours so mine will look brand new but won't be ( original) this was a decent era but really like the small mahogany shell kits... Vintage mrkt is tuff we gotta make what we get the best we can... nice job Sir
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Well shoot, you might have done better than me! Good luck with the restore!
@lucguenette7534
@lucguenette7534 Жыл бұрын
really like the fact u used tape at the seem before applying the glue and clamping, dam good idea. great kit u earned it. feel good story.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a handy trick I saw somebody else do, great safety measure, especially on vintage stuff.
@ivannio8519
@ivannio8519 21 күн бұрын
Inspiring. Thank you :)
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 21 күн бұрын
Your welcome!
@backbeatben
@backbeatben Жыл бұрын
those ludwigs sound excellent
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Appreciate this!
@sethyboo2361
@sethyboo2361 3 жыл бұрын
They sound great
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@romp6969
@romp6969 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if anyone one told you, but there was drum key sized to fit the screw on the bass drum mount and tom holders. I had one that came with the used Ludwig kit my father bought for me in the mid 80’s. It was very convenient and I kept it in its own pouch since I only had the one. I assume it was a Ludwig product but I am not 100% sure.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve seen those. I can’t believe Ludwig thought that was a good idea. So inefficient and annoying to lug around another tool to make it work. Seems like plenty of drums prior already used wingnuts that didn’t require an extra tool
@dye182
@dye182 Жыл бұрын
Just a tip for tearing apart drums I bought a large tray with compartments from harbor freight and labeled the side wall 12”/13”/14”/16” etc keeps everything labeled and separated
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen some others do that, and I really need to get one for myself! Would be so nice.
@mikeschumacher9715
@mikeschumacher9715 2 жыл бұрын
The threads on the tone control (mufflers) are cross threaded at the ends on purpose. You can easily break the rod trying to get them off. Instead tighten the tone control enough to give you room, the use a 10-32 thread chaser on the first 1/4" of the rod. Then the rod will come right out. Great job although I don't subscribe to aluminum foil, others sure do. Wonderful kit. Jim A. is a good guy.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting fact I didn't know about the internal mufflers, and that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!
@Anne7758
@Anne7758 Жыл бұрын
Newb here. Fascinating vid, lovely kit, mellow sound. Well done!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@righthearproductions8934
@righthearproductions8934 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. I recently acquired a 1968 WMP kit in really nice condition, but there are a few little odds and ends I'd like to address
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it's relatable for you! I'd love to see some pictures before or after you get it in playing condition!
@davidenorth
@davidenorth Жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@shardug
@shardug Жыл бұрын
On the curved bass drum spurs, I always replace with Elite spurs. Especially when I do a re-wrap.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Are those the more modern style? I guess I’d hope to re-drill, unless it was a kit I planned to keep.
@Slickmickyoyo97
@Slickmickyoyo97 2 жыл бұрын
WOW, you can really hear the warmth from those coated heads. I mean seriously, wow!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they are great drums!
@ohrid59mk76
@ohrid59mk76 3 жыл бұрын
great job !
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TimBales-ys3mk
@TimBales-ys3mk 11 ай бұрын
Excellent job and that final musical piece is nice also, nice groove
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim!
@mortenkalland
@mortenkalland 2 жыл бұрын
I heard the Ringo solo. Great work.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ear buddy!
@alanduncan1980
@alanduncan1980 2 жыл бұрын
Those shells from that era with the clear, maple interiors were the best as far as Ludwigs go.The late 50s WFL badge mahogany shells are also great drums.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don’t get too concerned with a difference in shell interior. I’m a fan of Gretsch drums, and the silver sealer is cool and unique I guess, but I’ve always felt it was a cover up for imperfections spun into a marketing tactic. But I do agree, these shells were fantastic.
@alanduncan1980
@alanduncan1980 2 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum yeah, you're not wrong. I think the painted interior does do something for the sound, but perhaps that was just a happy mistake. I don't necessarily think they painted the interiors to improve the sound. Like you were saying, it was perhaps a way to mask some imperfections and they turned it into some marketing tactic. The same with Ludwig. They had a name for the white interior. Reso coat or something. I don't remember. I too prefer Gretsch. I think it's the die-cast hoops more than the shells that I attribute the "great Gretsch sound" towards. Matter of fact, I think of all the drums being made back then, I'd rank Ludwig bottom of the pile. Rogers, Slingerland, Gretsch, Camco all made superior drums. They just did! You see that overlapping laminate on the Ludwig's, the bearing edges are not always great. The wood they used was nice. Good maple and good mahogany, but in terms of construction, probably not the best. For me, personally I'm more concerned about having good cymbals and a good snare than what toms and bass drum I'm playing.
@jonathanmcroberts8549
@jonathanmcroberts8549 7 ай бұрын
Really good watch.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@darkthingswithmarkdavis4497
@darkthingswithmarkdavis4497 2 жыл бұрын
Sick kit!!! 🤒😎
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!
@MrBeblis
@MrBeblis 2 жыл бұрын
Omg I would love to have this set
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you missed the chance, but it was a lovely set while I had it
@legendofthestrings1
@legendofthestrings1 Жыл бұрын
I had seen some one clean hardware with mineral spirits (paint thinner) and was supersized how there chrome turned out. SO I had come into a Ludwig L400 from 1964 and used that approach and was really surprised how it worked and I didn't 't have to do anything more. I was dune and it was quick and clean. No abrasives just paper towels. Try it once. A lot of it is just gunk buildup from being uncleaned lol. The drums look and sound great man :)
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
I'm always looking for a better way to do it, so I'll have to give hat a shot.
@Chris.Top.Her7
@Chris.Top.Her7 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Ludwig all the way.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
🤟🤟🤟🤟
@lenovotablet6700
@lenovotablet6700 Жыл бұрын
Even if you'd pay 500 bucks, it would't be a bad deal. Badass drums
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Of course, but this was a once in a lifetime opportunity.
@billyrhythm
@billyrhythm 3 жыл бұрын
I hope after you flip this kitbyou do the right thing and send that nice person who sent you the spurs a little thank you gift. I restored an early 70s Vistalite many years ago, and those arc spurs were expensive then. I imagine they are a pretty penny now. That was very generous to send them for only shipping.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I’m fully aware of the market for little odds and ends for vintage drums. I consider myself very very lucky to have found those for that sort of deal. Hoping I can use the “pay it forward” method to help somebody else in a similar situation sooner or later.
@CaptainBlueSam
@CaptainBlueSam Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I'd love a kit like that.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
They’re out there waiting to be found!
@CaptainBlueSam
@CaptainBlueSam Жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum around West Tennessee, they are REALLY hard to come by. Especially with the old timers that love to hoard 100+ kits in their homes. Not kidding
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainBlueSam Yeah, the Midwest is the wild west of vintage drummers floating around in my opinion, so plenty up here to be found.
@LillionBrosis
@LillionBrosis 6 ай бұрын
well done
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ryancarver
@ryancarver 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@vincentbuonora8477
@vincentbuonora8477 2 жыл бұрын
Also Nice drumming very smooth rock feel -I would watch video on those grooves and cross and under hand …
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RichardPanico81
@RichardPanico81 Жыл бұрын
Great work man! I have a similiar kit I got passed down to me bc I play drums. However, what used to be a pearl white wrap is now yellow. Any advice on fixing that?
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
You can try to use some soapy water to give the wrap a good cleaning without hurting it, but honestly White Marine Pearl is notorious for yellow-ing over years due to light exposure. Some companies even offer a "aged" white marine pearl that already comes a bit yellowed. Not much you can do to bring it back to a neutral white color.
@raygsbrelcik5578
@raygsbrelcik5578 2 жыл бұрын
Ya' really have to be IN to drums to go through all that work!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Totally into drums.
@user-ho9mo4hy7k
@user-ho9mo4hy7k 2 жыл бұрын
ドラムへの愛情がとても良く伝わりました。グッドサウンド👍
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
🤟🤟🤙🙏👊👍
@kylenoone6232
@kylenoone6232 2 жыл бұрын
Nice kit! Definitely could be worth it to get the bearing edges recut. Especially since they've been at a school with nothing protecting the reso side bearing edge.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, wouldn't have been a bad idea, not sure what the status is of it now, as I sold it almost a year ago.
@kylenoone6232
@kylenoone6232 2 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum oh nice. i guess it’s a better decision if you were keeping it. it wouldn’t make the drums any more valuable and it’s a lot of extra work
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylenoone6232 and some people are picky about modding vintage drums, so I leave it to the purchaser when I can.
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 9 ай бұрын
Now that is a barn find for sure. 75 dollars?! Damn. Nice restoration btw. I used some other type of glue that didn't work out for repairing a wrap, superglue seems like such a better choice! derp.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 9 ай бұрын
I'm sure a proper contact cement or other adhesive would be better, but the super glue works well and is a bit easier.
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 9 ай бұрын
@@malonedrum Yeah, the easy part is what I was thinking. I''m definitely not the neatest gluer in the world. Using tape to minimize mess is a great idea.
@masterymike1613
@masterymike1613 Жыл бұрын
Hey there, Nice job on restoration. I have a 3 piece vintage on what I believe are 1st generation steel pearl octobons for sale. The size of smallest is 16", middle size is 20.5" and deepest is 26.5" The mounting hardware is same as tama but shells I believe are metal. I have fiberglass tama so they definitely not like those. I didn't know if your interested for purchase and perhaps use for video restoration. Thanks again, Michael K
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Not particularly, thanks for watching my video though!
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 2 жыл бұрын
My drum teacher about 20 years ago got a 70s Ludwig from his church for free! It was just sitting in their closet!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Happens all the time! And would love it to happen more to me specifically’
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 2 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum well, of course! 👊
@joecoxy2
@joecoxy2 Жыл бұрын
I had a four piece, same colour. 14x5 snare 13 and 18 Toms with a 22 kick. Kicking myself for selling it.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
That's a big kit!
@joecoxy2
@joecoxy2 Жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum lol. 18 inch floor tom.
@bebimboptrio9840
@bebimboptrio9840 7 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Can you tell me where I can buy 1 1/4 “ compression springs for lugs? It’s actually for a gretsch tom that I’m refitting. Also, this Ludwig restoration video has imputed me to refurbish the same white marine pearl Ludwig kit that’s been collecting dust.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 7 ай бұрын
Reverb, eBay, and collectors forums are pretty much the best place for authentic vintage parts. Otherwise you can find some retailers online that carry replacement parts for different brands.
@bebimboptrio9840
@bebimboptrio9840 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I found a couple of places, hoping that they restock soon!
@ujwiersma8482
@ujwiersma8482 2 жыл бұрын
What is the black material that attaches to the rim and flaps when you hit the snare drum?
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Snareweight. Great muffling option!
@12groney
@12groney Жыл бұрын
You really got a great deal and did an excellent job restoring. Do you know how many plies and what wood they are made of?
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Long time ago now, but I believe 6 ply
@Jamie49
@Jamie49 Жыл бұрын
That's a sweet deal! I have a 60's Slingerland kit I'm considering cleaning up. With the aluminum foil did you apply any liquid while scrubbing, or just do that part dry?
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Just the aluminum foil, but you could use a solution/polisher if you want
@montearnstam6827
@montearnstam6827 3 жыл бұрын
Dang you sold this!?!? I would have kept it. Beautiful set. Nice work on it 2!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
It is beautiful, but not sizes I ever play so passes it on to somebody who will use it.
@montearnstam6827
@montearnstam6827 2 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum What sizes do you like?
@randomstuffproductions738
@randomstuffproductions738 2 жыл бұрын
This man is a lucky
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Many years of searching for deals!
@flocore
@flocore Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention the bearing edges and the separating plies on the floor tom! I think you can really hear it also in the audio, when you played it. It's a crucial part of a drum's tunability and sound potential. Nice job, nonetheless!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, it's been so long I can't remember exactly what you're talking about, but it's hard to cover everything in these recap/project videos
@flocore
@flocore Жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum Look at the floor tom bearing edge on the lower left side at 0:42 mins.
@bloozerd
@bloozerd 6 ай бұрын
Do you mind sharing info about the snare muffler...?...Thanks...!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 6 ай бұрын
It's the Snareweight M80, and I can't recommend it enough! Here's a link to get it from Sweetwater (Which also lets them know I sent you, and supports my channel): sweetwater.sjv.io/c/5015118/937020/11319?prodsku=SWM80Blk&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sweetwater.com%2Fstore%2Fdetail%2FSWM80Blk--snareweight-m80-leather-tone-control-dampener-black&intsrc=APIG_7338
@SONORSQ2guy
@SONORSQ2guy 10 ай бұрын
Are you using coated Ambassadors on the toms?
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 10 ай бұрын
Almost always, yes.
@dustinwilson2351
@dustinwilson2351 Жыл бұрын
Great video but I would suggest fiber glass instead of Body filler aka Bondo . I've restored bearing edges on some 70s Ludwig and the fiber glass worked properly. Also as far as hardware it's funny I looked for bass legs for ever on my 76 Ludwig classic and I had to order them from England.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
I’ll have to try that next time, and yes, I can’t believe how lucky I got with the legs.
@dustinwilson2351
@dustinwilson2351 Жыл бұрын
Great video Mike I enjoyed it very much keep on keeping on brother.
@SOLDbyYOU
@SOLDbyYOU Жыл бұрын
9.5 on the thumbs up score-o-meter… Very good simple demo of the sounds… And the slight patchiness of the bass drum… LEAVE IT THERE ,! most of that is lost in all but the smallest rooms but he bass drum Ron’s will still carry across a room fat… or jump into a mic fuller… you can always roll it off.. BUT THE WOOD FILLER…. wood filler might not have enough mechanical strength for this application…. If the hole to be repaired is small enough… or if the damaged area can be drilled out but the new larger hole with still be hidden behind the leg mount… I am a retired piano tuner repair person so I do have a little experience with critical wood repairs… and I’m a drummer…. an alternate repair ( stronger) might be to 1) go to a local hardware store and buy a few different diameter wooden dowels that are close to the size you need to “ drill out to” ( or maybe you can use one of your dead drum sticks … they are after all very strong maple or oak wood ) 2) DONT drill until you have chosen the “ right” dowel ( or drum stick) diameter. 3) then PRACTICE drilling into a piece of scrap wood so that you can then check to see if your drill bit size and and the hole it makes , and your dowel size all agree / fit snuggly. 4) once you have a drill bit and dowel match…. 5) WARNING !!! ONLY DRILL INTO YOUR SHELL HALF WAY…HALF OF THE DEPTH…don’t go all of the way through … then drill in from the opposite direction .. to meet where you’ve already drilled… WHY?.???…. Sometimes as you near the “ end of the drilling process, the last thin layer of wood will “ break out” ( rip out)…. It better if that “ rip out” happens in the middle of the shell thickness so you don’t have rip out on either surface.. ( inside or outside of the shell ) 6) test the dowel in the new hole for a snug fit…. That’s called a “dry fit” 7) snug is good …Too tight might not be good…. But LOOSE ( sloppy wiggly) is very not good… 8) sorry go back and re-try on the scrap wood 9) extra credit … if you have pliers “ slip joint pliers” (Google that) … you can grab the dowel in the inner jaws of the pliers and leave little ( crushed) bite marks… that is GOOD.. because when you apply glue to the dowels and insert it into the snug hole… glue REMAINS to help with a better bond. 10) cut the dowel to length.. ( dry fit.. and mark lenght with pencil or sharpie) remove dowel. 11) cut to correct length … a TINY bit short might be better than a lot too long. 12) more extra credit…. If the dowel is REALLY tight… but it in the oven and bake it BELOW 212 degrees for 15 or 20 minutes… yes really… this will temporarily shrink the wooden dowel a tiny bit for a short time…. 13) practice the new test fit… it should be just a little looser 14 ) USE Elmer’s YELLOW GLUE OR TIGHTBOND …OOOPS BACK TO THE HARDWARE STORE 14) DONT DELAY HERE…… lots of glue on dowel and lots of glue in hole. 15) push it in so that it is FLUSH on the outside of the shell. 16) use a damp sponge to wipe away the “ squeeze out” sloppy mess. .. the sooner the better. 17 ) STOP..!!!!! you’re done and your repair is EXACTLY the way a piano rebuilder with 40 years of experience would plug a hole on $100,000 Steinway Grand piano. 18) give it at least an hour to “ cure” back to the scrap wood …. Find the drill bit that makes a hole JUST SLIGHTLY BIGGER than the diameter of the screws that will attach the hardware…. ( leg mount, tom mount, tension lug)… once you have found that correct drill bit, NOW FIND THE DRILL BIT one or two sizes SMALLER…. drill the hole through your plug / repair With the smaller bit first…. Because you can get the smaller drill bit and the newly drilled hole much more accurately CENTERED in the plug ( or wherever you want the hole to be… 19) ok ..now you can re- assemble … I have a small container of WHITE LITHIUM GREASE… AND ..I smear a tiny dab of this stuff on ALL screws first ( do all of them at the same time to same time ) on the threads… this will assure that the screws don’t rust in place so you can maintain the drums forever. 20) DONT OVER TIGHTEN !,!!!!! very snug should be fine… the next time you change your heads…re SNUG… ..but too tight means possibly breaking or stripping screws. If they aren’t loosening up… and they aren’t rattling…. VERY SNUG …. Is fine
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
This is a very thorough comment, appreciate the effort here.
@SOLDbyYOU
@SOLDbyYOU Жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum yes sir… I was a member of the “Piano Technicians Guild” ( the PTG)… very low dues to become a member but I had to “test in” tune a piano, make some basic repairs and then interview… THEY were looking for interest in doing it right…. What they gave is… once a month someone would do an advanced lesson on some special technique including … tuning repairs, refinishing….. including “ when to use yello glue vs tightbond vs hot Hyde or even the very fast cure super glues or VERY SLOW cure epoxies… If You are repairing a bearing edge that has a HORRIBLE big ugly gouge…. Experiment with “ West System Epoxies”…. ( Gorgeoun Brothers I think ) Get it at West Marine Boat supplies…. Why… because you can get the hardener in three different speeds… slow cure… very slow cure… and don’t touch it for 24 hours cure … Those are times time Hard as nails…. But the working time called “pot life”… is also slow…. When working with very hard dense wood like oaks and maple… the wood is DENSE…so the epoxy will “ firm up and hold shape… but will continue to seep deeper and deeper into the wood as it cures…. So you will have a VERY strong build/fill/ repair… BUT the stuff is so hard that when you try to sand it down to level and feather the epoxy to the surrounding wood…. BE CAREFUL… because you may sand away wood faster than you sand away the epoxy…use hard sanding block that apply pressure evenly across the whole area. Also the West System has an additional “ filler” to help thicken your goo to help shape it . Fiberglass resin IS NOT AS STRONG. also ( back to the PTG) “ the slower the cure” ( when done right) the Stronger the final product. .. Finally when ever you mix glues and build ups… save a glop of the mixed stuff… dont throw it away… that way in the next one, two three ten days….you can see how well your mix really cured. I used the west system slow cure to repair a split on my 1970 Rogers Red Onyx 12x8” tom re-enforcement ring… ( maple) where the ring overlaps… it came undone/ split…. That repair is twenty years old…. Still invisible Thx again for accepting my comments
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
@@SOLDbyYOU Great story, thanks for sharing.
@stephenszklarski5446
@stephenszklarski5446 Жыл бұрын
I would keep the ludwig kit
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
With the amount of drums that come through my possession, I’d never be able to keep them all
@NEALBABBITT
@NEALBABBITT 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy price!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
I was very fortunate!
@robertsellinger7377
@robertsellinger7377 Жыл бұрын
Great video. A lot of useful tips and tricks. I am currently restoring a 1940 Slingerland Radio King Hollywood Ace 7x14 snare, that is complete with all original hardware. If you haven’t already sold this kit, I would be very interested in purchasing it. Please consider.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
Good luck with your restoration!
@Cajundaddydave
@Cajundaddydave 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, sell me this kit! 70s Ludwig is exactly what I want as a vintage kit for my project studio. I am sure I could find a decent MIJ stencil kit that didn't suck but... You know!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Sold it about a year ago, right when this video was released.
@Cajundaddydave
@Cajundaddydave 2 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum I'm sure it was very worth your effort. Cheers!
@ghostdrums
@ghostdrums 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! Played alone the 12" (?) Tom sounds quite a bit more resonant than the other toms ... interesting. All in all a wonderful sounding drum kit. Congratulations!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a tuning thing, I tried to leave them all open with mufflers, but sometimes those old mufflers rattle unless you engage them a touch.
@francescostacchiottidrums
@francescostacchiottidrums 3 жыл бұрын
How do you record the drums? With wich mics? Sounds great!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
On these videos where you don’t see a full set of mics on the drums, it’s typically a mono overhead, Shure KSM32, and a kick mic, Shure Beta52a. All in Logic, a 2 channel Focusrite interface.
@francescostacchiottidrums
@francescostacchiottidrums 3 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum great job man! 👌
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
@@francescostacchiottidrums thanks!
@drummerboi537
@drummerboi537 2 жыл бұрын
i wouldlove to buy that kit for that amount
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure, talking from experience, I was loving it too
@fabianschreck4393
@fabianschreck4393 2 жыл бұрын
When I saw the aluminium foil I thought "that's what rdavidr os doing!" 😂😂😂 laughed for 5 Minutes straight
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
That’s where I learned that trick!
@MauroColavecchi
@MauroColavecchi Ай бұрын
Hi guys, I have the same drum set, from my father... but he lost the floor tom somewhere. Now I want to restore the drum, any idea on where I can buy one? Thanks
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Ай бұрын
Try Reverb.
@MauroColavecchi
@MauroColavecchi Ай бұрын
@@malonedrum Thanks Mike
@Angelo_GS
@Angelo_GS 2 жыл бұрын
WTF 75$ 😍
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@ShawnxEdge
@ShawnxEdge Жыл бұрын
75 bucks was a steal!!! 300 would’ve been a steal! Lol
@malonedrum
@malonedrum Жыл бұрын
I mean, $500 still a steal
@FootyEmpire
@FootyEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
Nice restoration Mike! Did you list this kit somewhere?
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
I sold it on Reverb a week or so ago
@metzilla
@metzilla 3 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum ... well .... what did you net? Nice job, by the way!
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 3 жыл бұрын
@@metzilla just over $1,000 after shipping and reverb fees
@kearneydillon4803
@kearneydillon4803 2 жыл бұрын
A 3-ply wmp Ludwig set for $75?? Thats a Holy Grail type find.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this being 70s, they might have been 6 ply, but still.
@kearneydillon4803
@kearneydillon4803 2 жыл бұрын
@@malonedrum nope. You can see in the video the drums have re-inforcing rings inside the shell. Ludwig made the 3ply drums until 1975.
@malonedrum
@malonedrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@kearneydillon4803 It's been since I looked at them, I guess you're right. I passed this one on pretty quickly after I finished the renovation.
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