really dislike when people use religion to justify terrible behavior

Ruby says she wants her kids to feel like they can come to the dinner table and talk about anything yet if her kids act up she'll take their food away

“Boundaries, vulnerability, and safety” says the woman who has violated her kids BOUNDARIES multiple times and has prevented them from being VULNERABLE with her in fear she will bust out the camera and compromise their SAFETY from creeps on the internet even more than she already has. I rest my case

When you’re a hypocrite who puts their kids entire lives on the internet to the point where they have no friends, and then someone asks you a simple question, and you say it’s to personal 😂 these “family” vlog channels need to go

The fact that she sent her son to a wilderness camp that is known for being used as conversion therapy is so disgusting

I feel as a parent- the only advice I’d give is before you give birth - you need to be prepared/understand your child is their own person- we’re here to guide, love and accept who they are. The last thing I’m worried about is if my child will be gay/trans/non-binary. I accepted them for who they are/were the moment I found out I was carrying them. I’m so happy/grateful I created a bond to where they can trust me to talk to me about everything. Even with that said - kids aren’t always going to share everything with you. And punishing them for figuring out who they are is going to cause SO much damage. Anyways- love your children… accept them.. be there for them. Listen before reacting . Take care ❤️

Ruby Frank needs actual help🙄 she’s gonna be a sad bust in a few years and all her children are gonna realize what she (& her husband) has robbed them of a true happy child hood 😭

lmaooo. she puts her kids through hell for 18 years, even locking one up, and she expects them to want to “come home to the dinner table” after they grow up and laugh about it. evil parents.

The way I clicked so fast 😂 I don’t keep up with them aside from your videos, but whenever I see you post one I’m always so invested.

How she handles her kids with depression and anxiety is how my parents handled me. It didn't go well. When I was 19 my friend got me out of my parents house. I still thank them to this day because she saved my life. I probably would have killed myself in that house. They kept telling me to exercise and pray to God to fix all my problems. My dad never told me depression ran in the family. He did that on purpose. Made a point to say addiction did though. I also find out I have PCOS which was causing my depression the whole time. He still blames me for not listening to him when I was a child. He wonders why I'm not a Christian anymore.

I can see it now: Ruby and Kevin were definitely celebrating the news of _Roe v. Wade_ being overturned this past weekend. Same with The LaBrants. 😬

I feel bad for Chad, he’s 17 and doesn’t have any social media, no phone, probably still needs to use his moms phone to talk to his friends. Once he’s 18 I hope he gets the hell away and exposes Ruby!!

I think things spiraled when Ruby started taking some courses. She started using these big words and acted like she could fix everything and everyone

In regards to the mum posting about her daughter's sexuality... It kills me that this poor child is struggling with her identity and her mum is like, "it's adding stress to my already stressful week" like she's been unexpectedly asked to prepare a dinner party or something 😂 The narcissism is DRIPPING from every word.

Too many people suddenly think that if they just say the word truth over and over again it makes what they are saying actually true.

Someone should make a video compilation of Ruby contradicting herself

When your own family doesn’t even agree or like what you are doing then you should probably start seriously questioning why this is having a huge negative impact on the others around you.. but Ruby simply takes no issue to this and it is actively tearing her family apart. This lady needs to stop giving feeding nonsense to other people and go get some actual help for herself. The more type of people like Ruby that we allow to exist on this platform the more and more are created.

There’s no better hate than Christian love

I truly hope that people don't listen to their advice because if so I feel so bad for all those kids.

I feel so bad for the kids whose parents are listening to Ruby and Jodi, they’re going to be so hurt and never speak to their parents ever again. :((

I truly hope that their kids change their names, get away from them, and make sure they can’t be ab*sed anymore by these disgusting “parents”

the part in the facebook post that was like “added more stress onto my already stressful week” made me so mad like this kid is probably terrified of losing their family because of their own identity and just kind of having a really hard moment trying to explore their own self vs worrying about being seen as “wrong” due to their home environment and the mom is just like ugh my week is sooooo hard

I'm sorry but some people just shouldn't have children and this is why.

The reason she capitalized the “T” in truth is a very religious thing. It’s talking about God’s truth and that is referred to as Truth verses the regular mundane version of truth.

Why do the parents always speak like they are addressing congress 😂 just talk like normal people omg

I live in Alabama, and I can tell you just from the way the dad describes his upbringing that this is southern fundamentalism. It’s very toxic, and spreads like wildfire all over the south. It’s as common as megachurches.

Tbh it makes a lot of sense as to why all of her family members cut her off and probably even her kids will cut her off too because of the horrible things she and her husband do and end up with no more family members to be with them

The “go to church every Sunday” thing is so disturbing to me. My grandma used to make me go there and I hated that place with passion, but when my mom stepped in (coz I was having a tantrum every week bout it) I was free to choose where and when I wanted to go. I’m in uni and I don’t identify with any religion to this day, but now instead of hatred towards it I feel more curious to learn more about it step by step.

Yeah, definitely went and reported this group to Facebook. Absolutely disgusting 🤢🤮

Omfg!!! I can't! As someone that grew up with parents like this, it grinds my gears. Have an actually conversation with them! Just saying its a phase or satan is trying to have his way with you, sit down and talk about how its okay to learn who you are. It doesn't change how you "love god" It really does effect you, it took me into my 30s to finally understand myself and not feel shameful for who I am.

Yep. She’s being extremely culty. The power she feels from “creating” these truths- along with followers on social media, has created a giant monster and I genuinely feel sad for her children.

This is so scary. She’s using the power she has as the parent to manipulate, gaslight and control. I hope her kids are okay.. it’s extremely traumatic

Ruby: “I don’t FORCE my children to do anything…” Also Ruby: “I just choose not to FEED them, should they….” 🥹👀💀🤡

Ruby's deteriorating FAST, and taking all her followers down with her. This is veering into 'someone's gonna end up dead' territory. Also, wtf is someone going through her teen daughter's electronics? Yikes.

Punishing your child for questioning their sexuality is SO dangerous someone save that poor girl :/

As a religious person you don't have to be like "oh yeah, love who ever you want", it's more about accepting everyone, even though it's not exactly you're opinion or beliefs. At the end, who are you to judge? As a religious person myself I accept everyone for who they are (as long as they don't hurt anyone) even though I'm not agreeing with e.g. their lifestyle. It's on god to judge. The Bible says love your neighbor, even though you don't agree. It's sad how she went from that to who she is now.

The whole dad is the center patriarchal thing is definitely Mormon or lds beliefs. I can't stand these people. It's all starting to remind me of the Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow true crime case. I think Ruby & Kevin are nuts.

I got kicked out over arguing with Kevin when he was spewing bullshit about antidepressants being unnecessary. A mom asked whether she should allow her daughter to take them and I replied with saying they are life saving and necessary just like insulin is for a diabetic. I got told I live in distortion and got kicked out

People asks Ruby simple questions and they expect short and simple answers. Instead Ruby gives them long, boring and confusing answers.

I don’t understand how they claim their parenting is not religious when Kevin (Ruby’s husband) teaches at Brigham Young University who is considered highly influential in Mormonism (LDS) 💀

i really want to see a scan of ruby's brain. there has to be actual sections missing or something

I’m a member of the LDS church. And I can promise you these people are extremists. This is not normal and it’s devastating that they are bringing their family up this way and advising others to do the same.

Nobody should be taking parenting advise from people whose kids haven't grown up and given a detailed review of their childhood. Also people who exploit their kids. Also people who can't see outside their own beliefs or point of views. Also people who speak like their in a cult.

They officially are worse than the ace family...which says alot

I got into the group after watching this video just to see the ridiculousness. I have so many screenshots. 😭💀 she said children aren’t deserving of basic human needs, those are “gifts”🤣 and anyone who disagrees with them are “very immature”. People are definitely calling their bs on there though.

i feel like there’s gonna be documentary’s ab this family one day

People who love control, have children and think of them only as extensions of themselves, as their property, and not as whole people. A child does not choose to be born, and once a parent makes a choice to have a child, they own them food, shelter, financial and mental support, at a minimum, until they prepare that child for living independently, or until the child decides themselves it's time after they've reached adulthood, whichever comes first. These parent who demand their child follow strict rules and unreasonable demands, just for doing the bare minimum as parents, are disgusting. It screams "I am such a control freak and crave the smallest amount of power to such an extent that I had a child just to exercise my will against someone who can't escape me." "It's MY house, that I provide for them!" So your children should be grateful you didn't just throw them out to fend for themselves at birth? So grateful they have to pledge their allegiance and give up all autonomy, as a way to "pay" you for being a parent? A choice you made of your own volition? Also, you paid those bills using their identity and likeness for content, enslaved your own kids and don't even allow them a modicum of privacy, so if anything they paid for your lifestyle. She doesn't work, she vlogs her children's lives, so by definition they do support themselves. People who think a child "owes" them for doing their parental duties should just not have children. If you see your child only in relation to yourself, and not as an individual person, you missed the point of having children. Ironic that she isn't talking to her own parents, yet can't see through her self delusion enough to realize she is seeing her own future with her brood. She'll regret it one day, if she has any self awareness, but by then it'll be too late. Those poor kids are being taught to let people completely control their lives.

Is Ruby even a mammal? Can someone confirm?

Her "advice" is going to land someone's kid (if not her own) in the hospital or even worse when they try to get help, or try to reach out, and don't fit this "Truth" mold...

Every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child.

i can't believe people actually pay them for their hateful advice

Sloan might be releasing a cease and what ever it’s called letter from them soon. He said so in a podcast 👀

Spilly theres a reason why I keep watching you and stopped watching Def noodles, teaspill, rich lux, adam, etc. Its because your commentary balances perfectly with the amount of new video content. Other commentators just try to fill time with meaningless jargon as if theyre trying to meet the word limit on an essay… keep up the good work! 💜

Ok but like, 8 passengers is like a car crash I can’t look away from. Same with the LaBrant family

So we all are just realizing that their the worst now…… coulda sworn we knew that already. Is anyone surprised though.

What I’ve gained from this is 1. Kevin is the problem & the main reason why ruby’s relationship is way it is why her family 2. Ruby is very weak mentally just by how polar opposite her own beliefs have changed 3. I pray their kids are like her side of family & do not keep the brainwashing their parents have drilled into them.

Legitimately not surprised they’re a cult, or, cultesk. I’m sure they’re trying to start their own cult, but it seems like their followers are starting to wise up

someone plz call cps or something, i dont give a rats ass about ruby or kevin but those kids deserve better and the Truth of the matter is God would be very disappointed in these parents for making their kids feel less than. God gave his son so we would understand how loved we are.

You want to know how people end up in prison? Majority of the time it's to do with their childhood, you go to any juvenile centre and get to know the kids there. The amount of abuse those poor kids have endured, you'll leave mortified.

The way ruby talked in 2018, it’s sad how she changed

I refuse to label myself as a Christian or a Baptist because of my family and parents. My mother specifically. Christianity becomes so toxic so fast. Ruby’s thought process is something I see 24/7 in Christianity & in Baptism. It gets scary living as a child in a household where they believe everything they think or/and come across is Truth. Main reasons why I still don’t mess around with my mother too much and I still live in the same house as her. I have my own no bulls*** policy for myself every single time she gets into her little hissy fits. Anytime she cuss at me or show any type of unreasonable behavior I find unacceptable from her as an grown a** adult, I start to treat her like the child that she acts like. Sometimes I would even take the time to try to talk some sense & logic into her. It halfway works before she goes back into her own world. After that trial and tribulation, I just look at her like she lost her marbles and blatantly ignore her when I lose my patience. I ain’t got the time or patience for that matter to deal with BULLS*** because you refuse to grow up as a person and better yourself.

These two women have created this "distortion"(her favorite word to use) around the fact that ANYBODY cares what they actually have to say. They are on a war-path to create as much ignorance as possible all behind the guise of their twisted take on religion. It's scary, and honestly so sad. I am almost 100% sure that when their children finally break under the manic environment that these creatures have created that they will take NO responsibility, it'll be made out to be the children's fault, or it'll be made into some crazy over-religious conspiracy. I pray for these children and all the people that they are "helping".

Spilly I seriously love your page so much. Thank for all the hard work, I hope you have an amazing week!! Stay healthy and take care :)

from what i've witnessed in my life and the people around me, when parents try to force their child to be someone they obviously aren't/don't want to be, once that child is 18 and can finally go to college or move out, they'll be gone forever. they will resent their families and go extreme in the opposite direction of their family's 'values'. and this divide and resentment will last for ages, if not forever. I've seen someone do everything their parents were against. tattoos, piercings, dyeing their hair, smoking, drinking, etc... I hope that one woman's daughter can escape one day and find herself

Really hate it when these people are saying that you can't be religious and be gay bc Jesus and God hate gay people like no... I'm not particularly religious but I'm gay and have been raised Christian thinking that Jesus and God accept me for who I am, and they don't hate people especially for expressing love. I don't live by the bible either, but it also taught me that I should be kind to others, and I should treat people kindly so they treat me so as well. These people clearly don't think that highly of God and Jesus if they think they (G&J) would hate a gay child just for being gay. Like come on, Ruby you're an awful parent.

Just a small note, when giving “trigger warnings” remember that it’s used for people who could encounter a discussion about a specific topic that might bring past trauma to mind i.e. trigger them. Just saying “trigger warning” doesn’t give much information about what the triggering aspect is and people who are triggered by one topic might be fine with another. It would be beneficial to add what the triggering topic is like “trigger warning: child ab*se” etc etc. I don’t mean it in a way to reprimand you or anything, it’s just a clarification! Also yes these people are insane 😭 its almost impressive, the amount of mental gymnastics they do to say “it isn’t based on religion!!” yet all they teach are copy and pasted conservative christian values. Alrighty then.

Okay so people are asking questions. Understandable! She doesn’t want to answer questions? Understandable. But just say that you’re not comfortable answering those questions, or that it’s a private family situation. Don’t say “well here i got another value for you; boundaries; don’t ask questions that could be overstepping boundaries”. You are allowed to ask things if you’re curious, you just shouldn’t always expect an answer. These people are clueless

I always click so quick!! Love your videos the most!

2010 ish: Don't post personal stuff on the internet 2022: Family channels exposing their kids first period and other embarrassing stuff, posting it on youtube. How do they not realise that this is gonna traumatise every single child in some way

They should rename the Facebook Group. I have a few suggestions: 1.Making a Disfunctional Adult 2.Making a Murder 3.Traumatizing the Youth 101 4.Empty Nesting: Fast Track to No Communication with Your Kids 5. How to Be a Shitty Parent in 5 minutes 6. Parenting Nightmares 7. Parental Control 8. Trauma Now, Therapy Later 9. The Misery of a Child

This is giving me MAJOR Lori Vallow & Chad Daybell vibes…. This is horrifying

Their "distorted" principles on EVERYTHING is distorted AF. Imagine iff she was your mom!!!!😢 Those poor kids will be in therapy forever and WILL never be able to fix the bond they don't/won't have w their parents. The books and stories they will tell the world after they cut their parents off will be chilling.

I'm not sure if it's possible to report a group you're not involved in on Facebook. But I say if it is we should all be reporting this group for hate speech etc. Groups like this are completely toxic. It deeply saddens me to hear the story of that young girl who was trying to discover herself and her sexuality and is now being greatly punished for it. Truth and agency is literally a bunch of BS its a cult and should be reported to Facebook as such. It should not be allowed.

i feel like micro-cults are gonna be a thing we will hear more and more about in the next few years. this being one of them

I RAN to join the mom group 💀 I HAVE to know what’s going on in there lmao

Do they not have personalities outside of being religious and being parents? God, what a boring life… it’s pathetic.

"The truth" THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT!? Im so confused, sounds like cult stuff..

I’ve seen it so many times. Someone’s child is struggling with something but the parents make it about them and the stress that it is causing them 🙄

She herself is gonna end up tearing her own family apart and shes gonan be like why did my family fall apart and she is the one thats the one that caused it n then she'll balme it on something else or someone else

Thinking about all the bad shit I was doing at 12/13 😂 I feel bad for this baby girl.. I hope she has enough people outside of her family to let her know she is loved no matter what. I can’t believe we still have this happening

Its truly terrifying that ppl actually go to these two for parenting advice.

8:46 this frustrates me because a child and teenager is just that ! They have less than 20 years of life on this earth so they don’t know how it works they don’t know that might get better but you are an adult and their parent, their loving parent who has been there for at least 20 years (mostly)should help them with that

if you have to ask someone else wether or not your child deserves to be loved, you shouldn’t have children. i intern at a doctor’s office that evaluates kids during custody issues and i really believe a case can be made here. mostly with the food issues. refusing to feed your toddlers is child abuse. the rest of their bullshit is just further proof that there’s something wrong with those parents. i bet if those kids had someone to talk to they’d find out a lot more.

I hope the authorities are notified about their children being in danger. It's a sect.

I was very sheltered growing up. I wasn't even allowed to watch I dream of genie or anything that contained magic, etc lol As my mom aged she grew lax and now regrets at some of the things she did, but I resented her for a while in my late teens/early 20s. We made up after I became a mother myself and realized I don't have very much time left with her to repair our relationship (shes 80 now). I wouldn't be surprised if these kids do the same thing and distance themselves from her as soon as they can.

ive never seen any of these family channels but i still love listening to you pour the Tea

When spilly uploads a video about 8 Passengers you know she is about to go off

This has inspired me to create my own parenting advice community one day.

The saddest part for the kids is that her and her husband separated them from the rest of the family. No grandparents, uncles, aunts or cousins until they "see they live in distorsion" and join their little mormon scientology club. Those poor kids just got deprived of the last support system they had. Also the fact she has being exploiting those kids for views for YEARSS. And they are not entitled to any of the money? They sent shari to uni (that she has to pay of her own pocket) and she is not allowed to ever live again in their house since she turned 18. She had to move and rent an apartment for the summer with 3 roomates, because she is no longer welcome in ruby's house. Let that sink in

channels with children as the forefront need to be compliant to the same rules child actors and their guardians must follow. this is so damaging and no one is getting punished for it.

I do agree They have so much influence over some of their followers and i think Ruby realized that and she is becoming power hungry in a way. She realizes how much influence she has over some of these parents and is taking it to the extreme. I think all the attention has gotten to her head. She's a different person in the 2018 video

All family channels are the worst.

As a former LDS, LDS is a pretty much a cult already 🤣🤣 Your only purpose is to “live for the lord”, and by “the Lord” then mean follow the LDS doctrine…

The stuff she keeps regurgitating sounds so cult-like and brainwashed. Makes me feel yucky.

I’m a mom, my daughter turns 4 next month. I struggled with a lot at the beginning and I’m sure I will forever struggle with raising my daughter in a good way but I don’t see how anything ruby and her equally insane group “preach” is going to be good for anyone. It’s toxic and dangerous for those kids and the future of them and their families. I can’t imagine rising my daughter with these toxic views…

Nobody: Me: patiently waiting for these children to write books about their lives when they’re older

I'm so glad someone like spilley has a big platform she's honestly so kind hearted & passionate if there was more Spilleys & less rubys in the world it would be such a better place.

Hi Spilly! Hope you’re having a great day. 💙

Shoutout to whoever in that group said that you can love Jesus and be gay. Queen behavior!

Kevin gives me cult leader vibes