8 Pultec EQ's compared
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@Rogerthatmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I just realized that the high attenuation was on by default on the apogee plugin. I should have checked that. I apologize And I will make a new video showing how the apogee should sound
@chris-rb7bm 2 жыл бұрын
I saw that - it made me laugh :) Easily done easy to make a mistake like that :) Cool video - im gonna have to install plugin Doctor looks cool bit shocked about the 100 hz boost thing not being anywhere near 100 hz more like 1000hz - good to know :)
@Rogerthatmusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@chris-rb7bm Thanks. Even if I try to listen more than I look it was news for me too.
@nonamegrs Жыл бұрын
Check twice all the settings before you make a video like this :)) You lose your credibility by making this kind of mistake and my advice, go on exact numbers, not in between them.
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
@@nonamegrs you are right. Lesson learned
@ILaxative Жыл бұрын
I was just about to comment that. Im watching this video and my 3 year old daughter is sitting here with me laughing at the face you made when you cut the plugin on!! LOL
@davidder5178 Жыл бұрын
The issue on the apogee one is the high atten... It should be on 0 not on 10 (like the other plugins)
@Mansardian Жыл бұрын
I was surprised he didn't notice. Was quite obvious 😀
@KozmykJ Жыл бұрын
@@Mansardian Glaringly
@byniasofficial2567 Жыл бұрын
@@Mansardian Smells like conspiracy
@patrucz24 7 ай бұрын
Cela prouve qu’il faut toujours faire attention aux comparaisons sur KZfaq. Roger The Music a manqué de rigueur ici. Même si de base le pultec Apogge est à l’ouverture comme ça. Je l’ai dans mon arsenal de plugins et le mien ne fait pas ça.
@midnightwind8067 8 ай бұрын
Very solid video. Thank you. Not many quality videos like this around. And special recognition for the update on the Apogee plug-in. Top shelf job.
@JMiliam Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, learned a lot and thirsty for more.
@johnhahn1877 6 ай бұрын
Great visual demo on the frequency affect of the functions of this EQ and brand comparison Roger!! WOW, to my ears the UAD sounded by far the best. The fat kick and crisp but smooth highs are the bomb!! Thanks! This is currently part of a UAD sale bundle that I will be purchasing asap!!
@mikemccormick1624 9 ай бұрын
In looking for Pultec emulations I just found this video. My favorites in this video: UAD., Waves, Softube not necessarily in that order. Thanks for a wonderfully informative video with a great vibe and no BS!
@SpacedOutDoonie 8 ай бұрын
Amazing review
@willievaughn6474 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, you're amazing
@M.W.777 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!! Best wishes
@MreenalMams Жыл бұрын
Would have loved it if Analog Obsession was part of it
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
More have asked for it. I will make a new video soon but maybe compare effect chains from different manufacturers. I will make a poll before so you all can suggest what brands I should compare.
@kianhendrick3794 Жыл бұрын
@@Rogerthatmusic and The Noiseash Rule Tec EQ 1A
@JTFuller 9 ай бұрын
That probably would be a video ALONE.... lol. for freeeeeeee to be that good.. I cosign.
@chuckwagon5518 Жыл бұрын
I've used at least three different Pultec emulations and the one plugin you didn't mention is the one I now use all of the time... IK Multimedia EQP 1A. It sounds great with no added noise!
@jenslempke7501 8 ай бұрын
It has a lot less punch and bottom end than the UAD one I think. I recently did a personal shoutout between the two.
@MrDonSilver 2 жыл бұрын
Yo got the ATTEN SEL at 5khz and the ATTEN at - 10 on the Apogge.
@Rogerthatmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Just noticed that. Strange that it was on by default but I should have checked it.
@imremozsik1012 Жыл бұрын
Noiseash Ruletec is one of the best pultec emulation plugins, would've loved to hear it against the other favourite which is the UAD
@yungswampfire 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@Rogerthatmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@EvenDaTwilight 11 ай бұрын
By far theee best Comparison Showcasing Video for me. I also wish I knew the title of the track, Your reaction towards the apogee EQ had me laughing😄😄😄
@Rogerthatmusic 11 ай бұрын
Glad that my mistake and the bug in the plugin made you laugh😊 And thank you
@davidkellymitchell4747 Жыл бұрын
The original designer understood the Fletcher-Munson curve. The human ear doesn't hear flat. It is more acute to mid frequencies in the 1khz to 5khz range making the low end and high end seem rolled off at lower volumes and the louder it gets the closer your ear hears flat response. That particular Pultec was designed to compensate for that curve.
@Ramen_Sensei 6 ай бұрын
Dang! Thank you, I have learned something new! Fletcher Munson curve, eh? I’ll have to look into that!
@MrDisrupta 2 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. I Would love to have seen the IK media version in the comparison, but that only cos I have that one lol 😃
@sgfdancecompany 4 ай бұрын
Great Video !!! Also try the Pultec and Tube Tech Acustica Audio Version
@QuabmasM Жыл бұрын
I have a good video series idea for you: using the plugin doctor vst to visually show the EQ curves of the major types of vintage eq plugins. Also you should get into voice acting because you have a very important main character cinematic sounding voice.
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks :-) Good idea. I will see what I can do
@Elmex_1 2 жыл бұрын
I think would be nice to see Overloud EQP and Black Rooster Audio's as well. Maybe compere those two to UAD and Softube ?
@bkxt Жыл бұрын
overloud has one and several other have emulated pultec, we don's see them here. thanks for doing this video. since these hardware units are different form each other in characteristics any idea which hard ware unit would be ideal for the top end? I'm searching for the emulation of that specific unit, what ever it is. lol
@Il-Cane 11 ай бұрын
finally someone that do a nice comparison geezzzzz
@Rogerthatmusic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@MONOMAK3R Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it was very informative! When the attenuation control is set to 10, as it is on the Apogee, any EQ would have sounded bad. :D
@RealHomeRecording Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed!
@AutPen38 Жыл бұрын
I was shocked when I heard the Apogee version. I see from the comments that you actually had full attention on the high shelf. No wonder it sounded like there was a pillow on your speakers!
@JoshSmith-xm4gz Жыл бұрын
UAD seems miles ahead of the rest. Much more open and dynamic. Sounds of analog (maybe even better)
@rome8180 Жыл бұрын
I liked the Softtube the best. I believe it's on sale right now. Still pretty pricey though. The Noiseash Ruletec is also on sale. Only $29.
@geoffclarkmusic 11 күн бұрын
agreed, the highs and lows were nice, well defined. Nice harmonics added. Also quite 3d. Definitely pick of the bunch in my mind.
@ChrisDN Жыл бұрын
The only Pultec-style plugin I ever liked was the Analog Obsession RareSE -- because it has separate mid/side controls. Other than that, Arturia's EQ Sitral... which isn't even a Pultec
@ACES-BRAZIL 6 ай бұрын
no man...
@organjuppa6574 2 жыл бұрын
Very hard to determine a favorite in this case…. With one exception they all sound very good and I believe which one to choose depends on the mix and you can’t really fail with any of them… (with the exception named above…)
@Rogerthatmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing that you are referring to Apogee.. That was my fault, not that the plugin is bad.(a video coming..) But I agree. They don't all sound like "pultec" but they all sound good.
@midnightwind8067 8 ай бұрын
Very solid video. Thank you. Not many quality videos like this around. And special recognition for the update on the Apogee plug-in. Top shelf job.
@tendingtropic7778 11 ай бұрын
Great video!!!! thanks for this. What is your favorite now in 2023 ?
@Rogerthatmusic 11 ай бұрын
Thank you😊. Actually I think all are pretty good and does the job. My “go to” is UAD for overall transformer sound and Analog obsession for silky top.
@Brutuscomedy Жыл бұрын
You have the high end attenuation maxed out on the Apogee. It's on 10 so that's why it sounds as such.
@AnuragDixitMuzic 10 ай бұрын
Great video, Thanks! To my ears, UAD sounded best and Noble-Q comes real close (just a tiny boost on both low and high ends will make it identical to UAD)
@melvinmckinnie9839 Жыл бұрын
When you got to the Apogee Plugin that really made me laugh out loud then it went to a commercial break. Wow Funny!!!!!
@DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 Ай бұрын
I guess I play favorites in this case by what I own. It just seems to be the best to me. I've got the UAD Pultec. I bought it just last week, with a UAD build you own bundle. $49 per item ain't too bad. Pultec Passive EQ collection, plus 4 others.
@bradferguson9840 Жыл бұрын
Plugin Doctor is a blessing.
@Interstellore 6 ай бұрын
How do you listen to one part of a song so long and not get tired ears? I would love to hear some tips! Great video by the way never heard of this plugin doctor
@willievaughn6474 10 ай бұрын
Oh UAD and Waves. I have waves and never really used it. So thank you. Can i use a compressor and pultec on the main channel with a Pro fab 3, or should i individually Pro Fab, leaving more space on the main channel?🤔 Yes, but that one pultec for 200$ sounded really bad. I feel so sorry for all whom use their money on plugins and this happens. I'm praying against it. I know i got scammed with a few, and i don't have that much money. I want to thank you. Your presence is really unique, great comfort through you. You are appreciated Galatians 6:9.
@matt_nyc_audioengineer Жыл бұрын
On the Apogee plugin, you had the Attenuation knob on the high end cranked up to 10 the whole time. That was the issue with the sound. 🤦🏻♂🤷🏻♂
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
I know and wrote a comment about it. Som kind of a small bug that made the attenuation be on full by default.
@fabianpaulsson4474 17 күн бұрын
A lot of unnecessary attitude in these comments.. It was an honest mistake, he realized and acknowledged. Shit happens! Grym video Roger! Hade varit kul ifall du slängt in och jämfört med Analog Obsession versionen också :)
@DanielPetre Жыл бұрын
Hello, what vst plugins are you using on your sm7b ? Thanks !
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
It differs but for video voice I’n using: High pass filter Compressor De esser Eq (normally just dip the mid a little) Limiter Any brand of plugins can do this
@SILVERTONEMIX 9 ай бұрын
Here 1 year later, was screaming out loud over the Apogee settings 😂
@k1ttyF158er Жыл бұрын
I think it would have been (possibly more) interesting to see if those boost/cut differences compared to their hardware counterpart. - Is the Software model the same as the hardware? Is it wrong? (Incorrectly modeled? Or Does it match the hardware?)
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
I understand that some people find that (more) interesting. But for me it doesn't matter that much. I care about if it sounds good and if it's useful first hand. Of course it could be interesting with a comparison from a theoretical point of view.
@AutPen38 Жыл бұрын
But which hardware counterpart? There have been various revisions to the original specifications, it's an extremely old design, and it's analogue. Each unit has its own character. At least one of the plugin emulations was based on a specific unit that sounded "better" than most other examples because of a unique "error" in the circuitry. The hardware devices are all unique in a similar way to how every Rolls Royce made 60 years ago has its own individual quirks.
@juliadzelil5329 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Roger - please re-do the Apogee with its Attenuation corrected (not maxed out!) - this is why it sounds so **$&#&!
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I know, I wrote an explanation here in the comments. I will try to do another video as soon as I can get new demo versions
@msmoozesful Жыл бұрын
Do you really have not noticed that 5 k was totally attenuated on the apogee one ?
@davidcottrell1308 Жыл бұрын
latency within any individual plug-in is no issue...there is automatic delay compensation, so your point is moot when it comes to actual use in a real project.
@dsanj4745 Жыл бұрын
I think Apogee is owed a fair review/comparison. At the first go you had the attenuation at the maximum. When you reset the plugin because of the 'bad sound' you missed addressing the attenuation setting. Maybe that's the default setting (though that doesn't make any sense), so I'm not faulting you.
@henrikduende Жыл бұрын
The apogee attenuator is at 10!!!!
@kianhendrick3794 Жыл бұрын
You just forgot one of the best one : The Noiseash Rule Tec EQ 1A
@azoteapost8734 Жыл бұрын
Waves and softube sounds more nicer than the other ones , just MHO
@dominik4614 Жыл бұрын
Aaaahhh Apogee you killed it Sorry but you have to Edit this Video or just delete it..
@bourianboubbov9937 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your time! Hmm.. tough one. Uad.. but then Softube came and kinda stole the show... ( or made the decision less obvious) until we heard NobleQ.. all three sounded very 3dimensional. I also LOVE the Lindell one from Plugin Alliance. But! Does the same thing with the level. You gotta adjust it!
@mauromenegolli202 Жыл бұрын
Didn't you see the apogee had the high attenuation completely open? 😉
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
I saw it to late and wrote it in a comment. The attenuation was on by default
@mauromenegolli202 Жыл бұрын
@@Rogerthatmusic don't worry, It was such a great comparison with only that apogee downside to mention. Indeed I've tried all these plugin and I own 2 of them. The one I was really interested was the apogee indeed, because I've never demoed. I'm still not totally satisfied with UAD (great top end but low boost and cut doesn't work as the hardware) and waves (which doesn't shine on anything to my ears). Also the analog obsession rare deserves to be mentioned since it is second to none for bass frequency boosting, maybe the only one that can replicate the hardware on bass boost and cut. And it costs 0$ 🤘..
@RocknRollkat Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation, thank you ! The 'licensed' plugin is a disaster, as you point out. Otherwise, all plugins add their own subtleties, none of which I care much about, because the original mix is just fine. I don't know what people see in these things, If you need that much external gear, you didn't record it right.
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
I recorded rhe song, and played all instruments
@RocknRollkat Жыл бұрын
@@Rogerthatmusic Very nice ! I appreciate that there is very little compression, the tune actually has life, unheard of in so much of today's music. So yes, it was recorded right.
@shaft9000 Жыл бұрын
@10:30 your attenuation is maxed @ 5Khz = bye-bye high freqs you could segment the sound examples together and comment separately. Like 90% of this is chatter. I'm just here to hear the plugins.
@brownmoney27 10 ай бұрын
Big error on the apogee pal. The ignite one is a stinker and you didn't seem to notice.
@buickwilson Ай бұрын
You need to edit out the apogee section. 😊
@zinghao131 Жыл бұрын
UAD to answer your question...
@echodream Жыл бұрын
You should loop the exact same 2 bars.
@davidcottrell1308 Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!!! Let's compare apples to apples.
@iavingeorge9575 10 ай бұрын
Waves
@jinmusics9761 Жыл бұрын
10:43 Pillow is on your eyes? Attenuation knob is cranked all the way up Watch out
@nickmessitte1721 2 жыл бұрын
UAD pultec has an output attenuator
@nickmessitte1721 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh not the legacy tho
@Rogerthatmusic 2 жыл бұрын
No it not the free legacy version unfortunately.
@ajschot Жыл бұрын
Apogee haha😂 man… offcourse with the high attenuation on 10
@markhalidaycs3166 Жыл бұрын
The Pulse Techniques has the Attenuation in the high at max Atten à 5k. No wonder it sounds with a pillow. Maybe an edit of the video and a apology to these guys would be in order :-)
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
I wrote an apology in a comment here. I will make another video soon..
@MobiusMinded Жыл бұрын
The Majority of people with audio channels aren’t qualified to fetch coffee for real old school engineers (you know… the ones that made all the records the world grew up on an love.)
@savestry77 4 ай бұрын
I still don’t know what secret UADs have in their plugins . They are all modeled but UAD sounds much more better to my ears .The rest sound like toy , Soft tube would be my next choice
@cholkymilkmirage4984 Жыл бұрын
the tube tech. holy shit it sounds amazing
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
It’s terrific.. but also a bit expensive..
@msmoozesful Жыл бұрын
Sorry never mind I’ve seen the other comment already clarified it , don’t shoot hehe😊
@user-hy4xz1qt9h Жыл бұрын
sabotaged apogee
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
I know, I am sorry for that and wrote an explanation
@misstress1928 9 ай бұрын
Passive and all-tube cannot be used in one sentence. Tube is an active element, period.
@sandranoonan3141 Жыл бұрын
So…. If UAD, have a volume boost when engaging the plugin and you say this may be an actual byproduct of the original as it is an emulator so they say it is end to end , and you open everything with the statement that you don’t like this,, sorry I don’t understand, am I misunderstanding the idea of an emulator supporting the exact conditions of the hardware as being a faulty aspect of the model that you d3sire to be amended because that’s what you want, or something you deserve? If it’s exact, we’ll then haven’t they modeled it correctly? Not hating on you, just want an answer to this seemingly perpetual issue everyone seems to have
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
It's just that I like to hear the sound of the plugin and not be fooled by changes in volume. Our ears are sensitive to volume and if a plugin has jus 1db more gan we often think that it sounds "better" but actually it's just louder. Even if it is in that way on the original hardware I would like zero db be zero db in the digital domain.
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
Good question 🙂
@sandranoonan3141 Жыл бұрын
@@Rogerthatmusic ok, fair enough, imo, I feel if the hardware does the same thing then the emulator is doing it right. Btw I have no experience using the real hardware, just my opinion or 2 cents is all I mean by it. Peace
@sandranoonan3141 Жыл бұрын
I always volume match regardless so I guess your point is well valid👍🏼
@HR2635 5 ай бұрын
nice.. you forgot one of the best. If not the best: AnalogObsession RARE .. its free.. and killer.
@sastanashedi 9 ай бұрын
ignite amps , kussa, psp, and logic one sounded much better then ther other.... pretty disappointed with waves and uad... though they have their own character....
@orlynger Жыл бұрын
🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@thegroove2000 2 жыл бұрын
None of them sound like a real pultec.
@thegroove2000 2 жыл бұрын
They sound flat.
@haflamorocco Жыл бұрын
But few of us can use the real one lol
@killfee 2 жыл бұрын
1. UAD 2. Softube 3. Waves the rest doesn't have any sense to me.
@michaelgreen6411 Жыл бұрын
you have 0 experience
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
Only 35 years as a professional..
@APaclin Жыл бұрын
If it always on sale, it's not $200.
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
What is always on sale? Waves?
@APaclin Жыл бұрын
@@Rogerthatmusic yes
@Rogerthatmusic Жыл бұрын
@@APaclin According to their website at the time I recorded the video I said $200. The last years it has nearly always ben on sale though. And now it's subscription ....
@APaclin Жыл бұрын
11:00 Ahahaha, you clearly have attenuation at 10 and you expect it to sounds adequate? 🤣🤣🤣
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