8 Underrated Motorcycles That Are Actually Great

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This time I wanted to look at some of the bikes that are easily forgotten. This can be for many reasons. There is more than one bike in the list that I think was simply ahead of its time, and if released at a slightly different time, may have resulted in very different results.
Most were underappreciated at the time they were released, but that doesn't make them bad bikes. On the contrary, and it might mean you can pick up a fantastic bike at a bargain price.
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00:00 Introduction
02:25 MZ ETZ 250
04:00 YAMAHA TR 1
05:40 HONDA BROS
07:30 KAWASAKI ZL 600 ELIMINATOR
09:16 SUZUKI RF 900 R
11:10 HONDA X FOUR
12:15 HONDA X 11
12:28 VELOCETTE VALIANT
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@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 4 ай бұрын
IMPORTANT Dakar have hit me with a copyright strike so ive had to delist some of the videos just in case i guess they got pissed that mine were better because of the MOTOGP one before xmas that means im really vulnerable now and the channel could be removed at any time I have set up this backup channel so please go and follow it NOW, this could all be removed at any moment now so it is critical to stay in touch via the backup channel here kzfaq.info/love/CSl6i-tZJNC5DQ38vgCtvw sorry for this if i get another strike it wipes out all my work all my old videos will be removed I wont be posting anything much on the new channel unless this goes down but this is a just in case because it really could go down at any point the videos are still visible if you have a link so if you have problems message me for links so you can still watch them, if you follow the channel and this one gets taken down you will be able to find me there sorry if thats a bit garbled ive just woken to this but i guess i could have had the channel taken down already so i should be thankful ride free everyone
@glynwilliams6605
@glynwilliams6605 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, great video; got an RF900RT myself - had it since 2006 and it is really just a workhorse nowadays (I'm 71), reliable, quick, ok around town, great 2 up, decent range and MPG. Also, I like your approach in the videos - a lot more useful and down to earth than many! Keep up the good work; all the best, cheers
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Cheers Glyn, Simple and straightforward thats me lol, sort of :-) Cheers for watching mate, Have a good one
@wymple09
@wymple09 Жыл бұрын
The Yamaha Virago engined bikes were gems, aside from junk starters in 81-82. Torque, smooth, reliable to a fault, comfy, and easy to handle with a low seat height. Clutch, trans, & rear drive were bullet proof. I had several and they were great.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
yep, theyve had a fair few mentions now 🙂Cheers for watching mate, ride free
@rolfwassens4047
@rolfwassens4047 6 ай бұрын
Certainly underestimated. I once could buy a bargain, but I let it go because I did not know the bike. Later I learned they are very good.
@sawdust466
@sawdust466 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Had a 750 and it was great. Had a 920, it was not so good….
@antonkruger5652
@antonkruger5652 Жыл бұрын
I also had a RF 900. Amazingly capable bike. Regret that i sold it. Very fast (for it's time) and a true mile eater and smile generator. Torquey and enjoyable to ride. My current ZX 14 lacks the soul of the RF...HP is not all that makes a bike good. If you can get a decent one BUY it! Five endurance world records (over 24hours) is proof and can't lie... 😊
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison with the ZX 14. and good advice re the RF900 :-) Cheers for watching mate, Have a good one
@buddhastaxi666
@buddhastaxi666 Жыл бұрын
I had a zx14 for 12 years and a zx14R for 5. I found the zx14 had character, way more than the Honda's I've owned or ridden. I found the ease of travelling at any speed and comfort and smoothness to be remarkable. I am surprised, yet thats how you felt.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@buddhastaxi666 I guess I would say similar about the exup and my Daytona 955. not the quickest and far from perfect but they each have their charm 🙂
@peterflynn9123
@peterflynn9123 Жыл бұрын
I had an RF9. Ohlins shock and fork internals. Quick but heavy. Fantastic value and a genuine Fireblade beater .... but no match for an R1 or RSV
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@peterflynn9123 they were an underrated bike for sure 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@paulr7582
@paulr7582 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate. Great vid.ive had a 750 sabre for 10 years. I've sprayed her in st Orange with stripping, wheels too. Yet to finish her. Need to get some more parts from Dave silver to finish the bike off. Then I'll take to bike shows in the future. I miss the great time we had in the 70,s and spend my time left keeping the old bikes on the road. Good on ya to talk about the old bikes. 😊
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
i had a sabre as a parts bike at one point. 80s Honda parts bins were a treasure trove lol. that dash is just fantastic lol, i sat staring at it for ages when it first arrived lol, think the last bit i had was the tank but pretty sure thats gone now, sometimes a sacrifice keeps another one on the road eh 🙂 good on you for helping keep the old uns going 🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Жыл бұрын
As Orange 🍊
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Жыл бұрын
As orange is my favorite color I am so pleased that you are painting the whole bike in Orange. I was lucky enough to purchase a VSA 250 that was painted orange originally stock. I also bought a dealer's last Vespa scooter 🛵 and when he delivered it it was in pumpkin orange 🍊 I bet your bike is going to be super beautiful when you finish it best of luck with it and ride safe
@Djr656
@Djr656 7 ай бұрын
It was start Audio 1991then motorcycle having collection.on 2010.having 2 unerbone motorcycle.. Then another Honda 125cc..modern classic bike..
@johnlambert3273
@johnlambert3273 11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure you had them where you live, but I have a 85 Honda 650sc Nighthawk. (I live in the States) it's a wonderful series, (made from 83-85) and they have so many great features. How about 4-cylinders, shaft drive, double overhead cams hydaulically operated, twin discs in the front, mag wheels, gear shift and gas gauge built in to the unique instrument cluster, oil cooler, electric start, (Of course, but no kickstart) 6 speed gearbox, (Honda calls the sixth gear an overdrive) Tubeless tires, air adjustable front forks, and rear shocks are fully adjustable, anti-dive front forks. from what I understand, some are found in the UK, but not sold there.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
the 650 we had wasnt shaft drive, softer single cam engine than the 700 I have, but still good bikes
@EnergyXyz
@EnergyXyz Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 I really loved my 86 TR1, it didn't even had the known starter issues. The 11" headlight, the two tone horns and the chain running in 1 kg lithium grease - chain service check was 70.000km! It was just an awesome bike.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
it will live on in my memories 🙂cheers for watching mate, ride free
@phillarsson8253
@phillarsson8253 11 ай бұрын
Next to all my italians, I've actually got two MZ ETZ 150's. Never had the chance to get a 250 but the 150's were just as great and i love riding em. Reliable as hell and if you do need spare parts, you can get them cheaper than dirt.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
STRONG the MZ Community is :-) Cheers for watching and the comment mate, Ride Free
@AuraTrimCoMeath
@AuraTrimCoMeath 4 ай бұрын
Etz 150, 250 and 251 were kings of the roads in Eastern Europe. I love 150.
@robertscheinost179
@robertscheinost179 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I had a 1982 Yahama XV 920 that I bought in 1990. Always in dry storage when not used, I thought it was a brand new motorcycle when I first bought it. I had this bike for years and it was a wonderful bike! The chain ran in an enclosed, sealed oil bath which made the chain adjustment frequency interval an afterthought. After years of riding this bike I sold it and almost doubled my money. I collect vintage bikes now but your videos are convincing me to open my time period of what I should add to the collection. Who said an old dog can't learn new tricks? Keep up the great videos coming. Cheers from Connecticut in the States!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
its so basic, why do they not do it now? less work and less mess, talk about a win win. Cheers for watching mate, Have a good one
@bunnybunnybunny503
@bunnybunnybunny503 Жыл бұрын
I have a 1981 TR1, I had very little info. It's an easy bike to ride. I was thinking of selling it, but now you are making me reconsider.
@robertscheinost179
@robertscheinost179 Жыл бұрын
@@bunnybunnybunny503 Don't sell! I still regret selling mine. The bike was so sweet I pulled it into my living room when I wasn't riding it. The bike looked brand new when I got it and when I sold it to a friend. It would pull away in 5th gear when I rolled through a stop sign going 20 mph in the country roads where I live. Pure torque! If you sell it you'll regret it. Mine was black and silver and was super reliable. What more could you ask for? You already have it, keep it!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@bunnybunnybunny503 honestly mate, a lot have already been chopped up. if its standard the prices will go up. supply and demand 🙂
@PaulMickiewicz-iz4hg
@PaulMickiewicz-iz4hg Ай бұрын
Oh yes... RF900 and TRX850 bring back fond memories. Some of the best (for me) bikes for me. Thank you for the trip down the "memory lane". Cheers from The Antipodes.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Ай бұрын
glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 Theres plenty more on the channel, hope you will look around and find something your interested in. there is more on the website too. and there will be more to come. Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂
@mikegosselin2391
@mikegosselin2391 Жыл бұрын
Yamaha secas 550, 650, and 900. Totally underrated and unloved.😢
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
hmm, I think that was our XJ range, but we had 400, 600 and 900 came later or are you talking about the FZ/Diversion/Seca 2 ? to be fair both generations were good bikes , Cheers for watching mate, Have a good one
@wadetyler5056
@wadetyler5056 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the 400, rode one for 5 years daily driver…bulletproof!
@mikegosselin2391
@mikegosselin2391 Жыл бұрын
The years were mainly 1981-1983 in the states. The 400 and the 750 were ok, as I remember.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@mikegosselin2391 dont think we got either of them but certainly not the 750. The XJ600 was a big seller here though. the choice was 350LC or XJ600 for many i think 🙂
@RollingRigTraction
@RollingRigTraction Жыл бұрын
Similar with the Honda Hawk cycles of the day, used to ride with a neighbor who rode his Honda Hawk 700 or 750 (don't recall anymore)and let his dogs run along behind, he saw I had an '82 Nighthawk 650 and asked if I wanted to ride along Man that Honda Hawk had way more acceleration than I expected!
@davidgriffiths537
@davidgriffiths537 Жыл бұрын
I had a XV 1000 she was probably the best touring bike Ive owned 140kph all day long with good range in the tank Rode her across Oz 5-6 times without a hitch when I sold her she had close to 150k km on the clock Always will remember her serial number of 0000302
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
cheers for adding your story mate, enjoy your day
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 11 ай бұрын
I had a mate with a Honda Bros, he put a 750 Africa Twin engine in it, they drop straight in. That, along with some other upgrades to the suspension made it a fun bike.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 10 ай бұрын
i can imagine :-)
@jaymorris3468
@jaymorris3468 8 ай бұрын
RF900s, amazingly comfy smooth and fast, easily maintained too, way ahead of its time and probably the most underated amongst this bunch.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 8 ай бұрын
great bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂
@WOLFIE-96B-UK
@WOLFIE-96B-UK Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, informative and entertaining 👍 Bikes from back in the day when motorcycles had style, unlike today's computer designed clones!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
made by robots for robots lol, but i said i wouldnt mention KTM lol Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@dinomalta712
@dinomalta712 Жыл бұрын
Recently started watching and quickly subscribed, great content, taking me back to my days in the UK , Cheers DINO.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard mate, glad youre enjoying it, Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@healingplaces
@healingplaces Жыл бұрын
My X11 and I thank you for remembering, we ride daily. Ride on!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
and ride free my friend. Cheers for watching , Have a good one
@AuraTrimCoMeath
@AuraTrimCoMeath 4 ай бұрын
Manly bike. Loovely to look at but a bit too big for me.
@robertwilkinson2232
@robertwilkinson2232 Жыл бұрын
I had many 2 strokes especially in the 70s miss the smoothness sound and smell. Always had a soft spot for them
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Castrol R runs through my veins 🙂 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@koalameat9523
@koalameat9523 Жыл бұрын
Forget speed i want that Valiant , its a beauty
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
it is a classy little bike isnt it :-) Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@manitolas
@manitolas Жыл бұрын
I had a bros 650,and i can tell you it was a lovely light moto with plenty of torque, easy to handle cafe racer feeling 😃🤟🤟🤟
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
I had the VT's it was descended from :-) 2 x 500's a 600 and a 700 for my sins :-) Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@DmacDomage
@DmacDomage Жыл бұрын
I'm looking at one for sale now. Great bike. BareBonesMc is going to send me broke if I keep watching his KZfaq. 😂
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@DmacDomage lol, sorry Derek 🙂 I think money is probably safer in bikes than in banks these days 🤣🤣🤣
@Janeka-xj2bv
@Janeka-xj2bv Жыл бұрын
I had never heard of the Honda Bros before. Great video, I liked your thoughts about how we all see motorcycling in our own different ways.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
🙂 cheers for watching mate n glad you enjoyed it 🙂 Ride Free
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. A great summary as always. Keep up the great work. 👍😎🇦🇺
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Cheers Marcus, Thanks for watching, Ride Free
@freemenofengland2880
@freemenofengland2880 5 ай бұрын
Wow, some great bikes, lovely Video mate, as ever! Think my fav was the Honda X11 - I'd forgotten that one!👍👍
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 5 ай бұрын
glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 Theres plenty more to come. Cheers for watching. Happy new year🙂
@freemenofengland2880
@freemenofengland2880 5 ай бұрын
@@barebonesmc Happy new Year!! 🙂
@jonford6119
@jonford6119 Жыл бұрын
Some great bikes there. I now have a hankering once again for a Honda Bros 650. Superb build quality, nice compact bike. With those Bridgestone BT45 Battlax tyres on it you can scrape the footpegs, no problem.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
I had the earlier VT's ive had 2 x 500's a 600 and a 700 in my time lol. not that i have a problem pmsl Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@pabloricardodetarragon2649
@pabloricardodetarragon2649 Жыл бұрын
I have a NTV Revere 1997, and you're right with the Bridgestone BT45 (and 46 i have now) Battlax, and with well tuned suspensions, you are able to surprise some guys on big bikes in twisty roads, because the passage in curve is pretty good. The engine is a tractor with plenty of torque and it's not afraid to rev.
@JohMurr2
@JohMurr2 Жыл бұрын
I had a TR1 for a couple of years. A very under rated bike with an easy going, loping nature. The only weakness the motor had was a tendency to break the starter Sprag clutch if you were ham fisted with the starter button. Could go some through the twisties and surprise a few sportier bikes if you utilised the torque. Had some great design ideas for its time. A pity that many of the surviving examples have been hacked for the 'Cafe Racer' fad.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
i agree, the custom crew love it as a base bike unfortunately and that pushes prices up too 🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@jackandblaze5956
@jackandblaze5956 Жыл бұрын
The permanent fix for the TR1 starter issue is to rob the starter Bendix from an '86 or newer Virago XV1100. The earlier solutions were only temporary. This worked like a charm on my XV1000.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@jackandblaze5956 another pearl of wisdom 🙂Cheers for watching mate, ride free
@williamjarvis3473
@williamjarvis3473 11 күн бұрын
A friend of mine has a 350 two stroke Bridgestone in his barn. A retired army pilot gave it to him in the late 80s and herode it home and put it away and according to him he never rode it again. I've seen it and it appears to be all there though would take a lot of time and money to bring it back. He won't sell it though for whatever reason I don't know. Great video!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 күн бұрын
thats a shame, always a bit sad to see a bike rotting away, but i guess he has his reasons, cheers for adding the story mate
@pipes9878
@pipes9878 Жыл бұрын
I've had a ZL600 for 11/12 years I absolutely love this bike. Never had a bike that long before and she still puts a smile on my face every time even my Mrs loves the bike. Moved house 3 times on it and just keeps chugging along. Headstock starts tank slapping around 100mph 😬 but didn't take long to get there. Great for all road riding from commuting/ plodding to having a silly moments through the twisties and the launch is epic leaving many another vehicle in surprise when you learn to balance the acceleration & revs. I've had other bikes come and go but nothing stayed. Considering that I picked it up for £700 purely as a go between after my GSX600F was stolen with 3 months of insurance issues 🤦‍♂️ (loved that bike too with 20k miles riding in the year of having it) nearly fell over when I saw a ZL600B for sale at £2500. The ZL community on FB is pretty awesome too. Loads of photos, advice and parts locators for the entire ZL range of bikes.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
A good community makes a bike when its over a certain age, the combined knowledge etc, some do it better than others :-)
@adhub3971
@adhub3971 Жыл бұрын
I loved my Yamaha FJ/XJ600. A nice middle weight sports/tourer.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
that became a battleground, it was a hard fought sector, Hornet and CBR600F, ZZR600, Thundercat and RF 600 too, Cheers for watching mate, Have a good one
@othgmark1
@othgmark1 7 ай бұрын
​@@barebonesmcHad an FJ600 which was fast for its era but the worst vibrating 4 cylinder l ever rode. Put 78000 miles on it so it was reliable but never really comfy for longer trips.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 7 ай бұрын
Cheers for adding your bit. as i have often said, if we could amass the combined knowledge of all the subscribers we would have the most comprehensive motorcycle encyclopedia ever 🙂
@thedarkknight1971
@thedarkknight1971 Жыл бұрын
YAYYYY a fellow RF-er! Had one, LOVED IT, HIIIIIIIGHLY UNDERRATED...! It BROKE (AND KEPT FOR YEARS) speed and endurance records! Mine was a US Import green with grey/silver markings RF900RW, I junked the 'Clean Air recycling circuit system', modded the headlight and both rear lights to have a ring of LED's as 'Side lights' and then used the bulbs for main/Brake (all 3 at back wired for brake), adjusted the suspension for best of both worlds with a wee smidge of firmness, Bridgestone BT-023s, and Maaaaaaaaaan! Did she hustle! There was/is a RARE saught after 'Manta Ray' green version. That GSXR1100 derived lump can handle the 1170cc head tube (and everything else that well loved lump could take. A KZfaqr 'Adikxx' is currently doing videos on a 1170 & tuned motor build and change for his RF9. Issues? Well.. 1 -THAT WELL KNOWN Alternator coupling bushing CAN (and DID fail on me twice (1 failed 32 days after I bought from a Suzuki dealer - they refused warranty as it was 'Over its 30 cover period as I fitted it' 😠, but 2nd one lasted on), for anyone not in the know... Imagine the alternator shaft connecting into a ball bearing centre, and the outside of the 'Ball bearing is pressed into a gear say, now imagine that the ball bearings are replaced with solid rubber... You get a 'Solid' connection that damps out vibes, but... IS a weak point just in case the alternator seizes (as HAD happened on the original GSXR1100s, so instead of smashed/stripped gears, and shavings of steel running around and 'Lunching' your engine, it just tears the rubber (saving engine). However, if this little bugger fails (and it does), first thing you'll notice is days later, your battery is dead because your engine is no longer spinning the alternator. You CAN swap parts back to the GSXR1100 style hard/direct gear drive system to drive the alternator. 2 - The usual, like brakes etc CAN corrode if you ride all year (like I did/do) in countries that use salt/grit on the roads, so a tip!! Have a garden watering can filled with fresh water, and after your ride in winter, flush the salt/grit out the brakes. Doing this helps reduce the times you have to clean/unseize those callipers. 3 - Yeah... WHY SUZUKI, WHY didn't you give it a 6th gear? I just upped front by 1 and lowered the rear cog by 2. 'She' was a mile muncher (500 mile round trip Grimsby to Southampton and back DEAD EASY, yes, that large seat, was... a SMIDGE firm), she was an A and fast B road carver, DAMN I MISS HER! 😟 Apart from that... SOLID bike! If you want to see pics of headlight/tail light mod (will work for RF4, 6 and 9s), go to my YT page, send me an email) RIDE SAFE, RIDE FREE!!! 👍 😎🇬🇧
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
cheers for watching and for the comment mate, these are the comments i love best, have a great week 🙂
@carlhusain1012
@carlhusain1012 11 ай бұрын
Great video, many thanks. As an official old git, I have had a number of bikes, often a few at a time and all have been great to own in their own way but I would not have predicted that the one I still have, after many years, would be the MZ ETZ250. Not the last I will own by any means but I won't part with it!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
the force is strong in the MZ rider community :-) Cheers for watching and the comment mate, Ride Free
@ropfi
@ropfi Жыл бұрын
I had a TR1, an incredible reliable and comfortable motorcycle. Bought it from a friend with 22.000 km and sold it with 148.000 km with still the first chain on. The closed chain box was unique and helped the chain to have an enormous service life. I've traveled all over Europe by motorbike to the furthest corners of Turkey and haven't even taken any tools with me in recent years - you could completely rely on this motorbike.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
🙂cheers for adding your bit mate, ride free
@paulrobert504
@paulrobert504 7 ай бұрын
Another absolutely presentation. Always a big pleasure to listen to you. Greatest Regards.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 7 ай бұрын
glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂Cheers for the support. Ride Free 🙂
@charleswhite7612
@charleswhite7612 Жыл бұрын
Commenting from America, it is SO cool to see all the different bikes we didn’t get. It’s like an alternate universe. Great video.👍😉
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard mate, Cheers for watching :-) Ride Free
@rudeawakening3833
@rudeawakening3833 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information and your delivery ! I , a rider of 48 years , and now in my 60’s and still riding ; appreciated your comment on getting on a motorcycle for YOURSELF , and formulating your OWN opinion ! I’ve owned : 1.) 1- BMW 2.) 2- Hondas 3.) 13 Harley Davidsons A few short years ago , I test rode a “ brand new “ Triumph Bonneville . I had to go BACK to the dealership for a second , and then a THIRD test ride ! The engineers took a 1959 “ Bonnie “ and gave it all the modern improvements ! The ONLY reason that one of these most beautiful and comfortable and smooth machines isn’t taking real estate in my garage today ; is the FACT that he could only offer me a few thousand dollars for a 1983 FXWG that I put $5,500.00 into - after purchasing it for $7,500.00 . The HD dealership gave me $10,000.00 towards a 2018 FXLR Low Rider . Don’t get me wrong , as I obviously “ lean “ towards HD , this new and improved Triumph just blew me away . Had I not gotten “ divorce-raped “ , who knows , there might be (2) motorcycles taking up real estate in my beloved man cave ! Again , stellar job on this video . I’d love to hear you do a “ twist & go “ scooter video ! The old Honda Silverwings to today’s Suzuki Bergmans … Peace ☮️
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
:-) Cheers for the comment mate, ouch that dealer was harsh, and as you say, its all about finding the right ride for you :-) :-) Ride Free
@rudeawakening3833
@rudeawakening3833 Жыл бұрын
@@barebonesmc I appreciate that response . God bless .
@jimmyjames2549
@jimmyjames2549 Жыл бұрын
I owned 2 Hawk GT's. 88 and 89. The last one I upgraded the suspension and brakes etc which transformed it to a very capable machine. 58bhp was enough for the light weight and due to a 12.5 liter fuel tank, you weren't going anywhere long distance wise. The main reason it didn't sell was, overpriced and the other Honda on the showroom floor, the CBR600F (Hurricane) was only 500 dollars more than the Hawk. The 89 model I had was # 139. The US sold 2200 bikes in total, Canada was less than 400.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
more interesting snippets :-) 🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@jednavrana5720
@jednavrana5720 Жыл бұрын
I've got one myself a heavier guy so I added a buffer in the forks and heavier oil in them...the rear suspension I made adjustable and that cost a bit to make myself..but no matter the tires I put on it I can use them all with good torque
@zfid
@zfid Жыл бұрын
First time watcher., subscribed..nice vid! You're absolutely right about what suits one rider may not suit another. For most of the 80s and 90s I used my bikes for commuting, dispatch riding and touring. Nowadays U have the luxury of odd days out in the sunshine, and occasional camping trips. I'll definitely keep an eye out for a honda bros at some point (yes the name wouldn't have attracted me). Had a MZ TS250 in the early 90s, got it for £60!. Very utilitarian and served it's purpose as a commuter..mine had terrible knobbly tyres on which made handling questionable. Also had an American imported XV920 (TR1) which was indeed a great capable motorcycle if you didn't or couldn't chase the higher priced newer bikes. Unfortunately it was let down by a poor starter and mechanism, in the days before the interweb and easier international trade, this was an expensive fix. Later there were uprated 4 brush starters made, and prices for these became reasonable.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
always the best solution when the owners sort the fix 🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@user-yv5mi8fg6z
@user-yv5mi8fg6z 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the pointer to the tr1 segment!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 9 ай бұрын
enjoy it mate 🙂welcome aboard 🙂
@johnmunns5964
@johnmunns5964 11 ай бұрын
We didn't get a lot of these in Australia, got the Suzuki but didn't get TR1 or later on the BT1100 Bulldog, didn't get those Honda's either but did get the Bros. Our factory distributors here were very conservative unlike the earlier independent distributors, Yamaha didn't even bring in the VMAX at first.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
i do find it interesting how they seem to get it so wrong sometimes, with bikes that would suit one market being sent to a market they dont suit as much lol, Ride free my friend
@rappers5719
@rappers5719 2 ай бұрын
I rode my 1981 Kz 550 LTD down from Kent to my new home on Rhodes 16 years ago. It is a bike that does know what it is. But! I love it 35 years on.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 2 ай бұрын
many good memories there then mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂
@richardhorton25
@richardhorton25 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki made great bikes, all the GS range were over-engineered. I had a GS400 that I took on 3 x 2000 mile continental tours 2 up with luggage for 3 weeks, not fast but capable of 80mph all day long. I bought it second hand for £300 and rode it all weathers, commuting, holidays, trips across UK to see mates, changed the oil once a year, rinse and repeat. Maintenance apart from tyres and brake pads was done basically when I thought I could afford it. Valve clearances remained in spec for 50k miles. Fabulous bit of quality/value engineering
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
indeed they were 🙂 cheers for watching mate. Ride Free
@kdsowen2882
@kdsowen2882 3 ай бұрын
I have an 81 and an 82 XV1000 TR1 . The 81 is no.47 off the production-line . I ride the 82 a lot , it's customised to look more like an old-British bike with all original-parts stored-away . I find it remarkably-similar-feeling to my old Ducati 750 GT in power-delivery and handling . I have Never seen another-one on the road but there are a few out there. Yamaha dismantled a Vincent as part of the development of the TR1 (the ugly-hugger that everyone hated and the mono-shock , were both 'a nod to-Vincent' ) . They produced it as a rival for the BMW R80/100 . It flopped due to Thick-British Bike Reviewers so they turned it from 'Touring Roadster 1000 ' into a Cruiser and went for The US-Market where the mighty Virago was born . There are hundreds of TR1's in Germany and Clubs across Europe , even The-Italians got keen with the later BT1100 Bulldog . The final big-cruiser still destroys Harleys to this day : The Yamaha Roadliner/Starliner/Stratoliner etc , 1900cc , ceramic-bores , 3x-oil-pumps around 100HP and it actually handles and stops well . Dave nz
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 3 ай бұрын
Welcome Dave, I seem to be gathering a fair few subscribers from New Zealand. Cheers for adding this. as i have often said, if we could amass the combined knowledge of all the subscribers we would have the most comprehensive motorcycle encyclopedia ever 🙂
@mattjacomos2795
@mattjacomos2795 Жыл бұрын
I remember having a ding dong battle against an XV 1000 TR1 back in 1989. I was riding an SR500 and it was a tight and twisty track. We were buy no means at the front of the pack, but it was a race I will always remember!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
i can imagine that was an interesting one. power versus simplicity and lower weight :-) sounds fun :-) Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@mattjacomos2795
@mattjacomos2795 Жыл бұрын
@@barebonesmc I'm by no means a quick rider, I have to work hard to get lapped in a 6 lap club race!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@mattjacomos2795 its all about the smiles mate 🙂 the experience is everything
@jackwood2328
@jackwood2328 Жыл бұрын
Good list and excellent presentation. Very good piece of work.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it mate. Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@montlejohnbojangles8937
@montlejohnbojangles8937 11 ай бұрын
I like to think I'm pretty well educated on my older bikes but I'd never even *seen* a Honda X4 or X11. They sound absolutely awesome.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 10 ай бұрын
Glad I surprised you mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂 i have hovered on both but ended up buying a Blackbird to butcher instead so I get the 6th gear 🙂 I will build the most bonkers HyperMotard ever, it will just take time 🙂
@AmbrosiasRideOuts
@AmbrosiasRideOuts Жыл бұрын
God that MZ sound just took me back. My friend had one… I had a Honda WetDream 😂. Great vid, the memories…..
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it and it stirred some memories mate, 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, ride free
@andyworsley3908
@andyworsley3908 Жыл бұрын
I was glad to see the MZ. I had the facelifted version: the Saxon Tour 251. It had the same power as the Japanese competition (Yam SR250, Suzuki GN250, Kawa KLR250 and Honda CB250RS) but 50% more torque than the closest rival. I couldn't get a test ride but I bought it on the strength of magazine road test (Bike, I think) who said it was in a class of one. Nothing else came close.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@Nooziterp1
@Nooziterp1 Жыл бұрын
I had an ETZ250 1979-82. A vast improvement over its predecessor the Supa 5 (which I also had.) With autolube rather than premix a lot less smoky too! And the front disc brake was worlds apart from the old drum. Good bike and I have good memories of it.
@alfnoakes392
@alfnoakes392 Жыл бұрын
I had an ETZ after earlier owning the TS model ... all the 250cc MZs were powered by essentially the same engine (the ETZ and later versions had the refinement of automatic oil mixing rather than the previous models measuring-cup-under-the-petrol-cap) but had aesthetic 'improvements' year-by-year. Very fond memories of both machines, on which I used to travel all over the place and which certainly coped with motorway conditions. The cloud of blue smoke that follows an MZ does unfortunately make it a bit inappropriate for current times.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@alfnoakes392 i understand your point, but their longevity does help their long term carbon footprint 🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ride Free 🙂
@andyworsley3908
@andyworsley3908 Жыл бұрын
@@alfnoakes392 Mine had the autolube. It smoked when it was cold but after 5 minutes there was only the faintest whisper. The smoke was actually the reason I sold it. Seeing school children choking at the side of the road as I waited at traffic lights was not a good look!
@yonniboy1
@yonniboy1 Жыл бұрын
Great review of bikes that deserved better, I must confess that as a teenager in the late 70s who owned an RD350, when one of our mates bought an MZ 250 we unmercifully took the piss out of him but he had the last laugh as his little MZ went on to do over 200,000 miles in his job as a courier, I bought a grey import 650 Honda Hawk in the 90s (the US version of the Bros) it was a lovely handling little bike with a bullet proof engine, something Suzuki obviously spotted and later produced their pepped up version in the ubiquitous SV65O.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
i think most of us did with the MZ and CZ riders :-) little did we know eh :-) the honda engine was way more compact than the SV engine thats for sure lol but i guess thats the effect of starting from the TL1000 block and the reason its so overengineered :-) Cheers for watching :-) Ride Free
@jmlupoludowicy1239
@jmlupoludowicy1239 Жыл бұрын
Great Video BarebonesMC! The Yamaha BT1100 Bulldog might well be on that list too as well as the Suzuki GSX1200 Inazuma. The Suzuki was definitely ahead of its time as it was retro before retro was a thing. I bought my 1999 Inazuma new in 2001. She was tucked away in a corner of the showroom and half a dozen bikes had to be moved to get to her, it was love at first sight. Unfortunately she died up in Scotland in 2008 when we got t-boned by a car. Last year I found another one, same colour, same year and untempered with apart from the seat. I just had to buy it and the seat has been redone in the looks of the Kawasaki Z900RS’s seat. Cheers, Lupo
@mrsilbo6499
@mrsilbo6499 Жыл бұрын
Agree with you on the Bulldog - see my comment about it!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
ouch. glad you survived Scotland :-) 🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 11 ай бұрын
I was thinking how do you kill an Inazuma, they are bulletproof? then i read T-boned by a car......oh. We got them as a new model here in NZ as the GSX1200 (no Inazuma tag) but people just called them the NTB (Not the Bandit) because when you said "Ive got a 1200 Suzuki" everyone would say "Oh a Bandit", to which the answer would be "No, not the Bandit" 😊 I love em, they look better than the Bandit, and have the same grunty motor, Theres a couple for sale here at the moment, and its tempting, very tempting. I have another odd Suzuki using the same 1200cc motor, that only got sold here in NZ and Japan, the GS1200SS, Kind of a tribute to the XR69 GS1000R that was Suzuki's endurance racer of the early 80s.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
@@uhtred7860 interesting, more reading to do lol
@ricardo6861
@ricardo6861 Жыл бұрын
Great channel and content imo🙏👍👍
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
welcome aboard mate, glad youre enjoying it. Ride Free
@chris_rides_kawasaki
@chris_rides_kawasaki Жыл бұрын
I have to admit it, all those years ago we sneered at the MZs and the 50cc simpson that was available from Flitwick motorcyles in the late 1980s. I dont know why, the misgivings of youth perhaps.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
easily led when we didnt know any better maybe :-) Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@daviddb2528
@daviddb2528 7 ай бұрын
Clicked the like as soon as you kicked off with an MZ!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 7 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard mate, enjoy the ride and cheers for the support. MZ come up fairly regularly, theres a special mention here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y5OjZKtmma3MfZ8.html relating to Walter Kaadan and the 2 strokes and then i feature the Scorpion Riders here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdyfiq1l1aq1o6M.html
@davidmacgregor5193
@davidmacgregor5193 Жыл бұрын
I have a machine that was underappreciated by the motorcycle buying public when it was in production, a 1980 Benelli 900 Sei. These six cylinder machines were an upgrade on the earlier Benelli 750 Sei which was in production from 1974 until 1978, the 900 motor was bored and stroked to give a capacity of 906cc. Benelli built 3200 of the 750 Sei in it's four year production run, the 900 Sei was in production between 1979 and 1989 and only only 1878 of them were produced in that ten years. Granted the Benelli multi cylinder motors borrowed a lot from that of the Honda CB500, but the Benelli handled and braked so much better than the Honda ever could. My Sei goes around bends like it is on rails on it's Pirelli Demon Sport tyres, it carries it's weight very well and it belies its 26" wide motor by being a great scratcher on twisty country roads. Fuel economy is reasonable at 45 mpg consuidering I have replaced the stock trio of 24mm Dell 'Orto carbs with a bank of six 22mm Dell 'Orto's. The Benelli 900 Sei is now regardred as a period classic and exceptional low milage examples are changing hands for between £15k and £20k. I bought mine in 1986 for £1200 and I have no plans to sell it anytime soon.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
good on you for keeping it going mate, the 750 has always been one of my dream bikes :-) to be fair i think the TreK was a fantastic bike too. and what a sound 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@peterschweizer214
@peterschweizer214 Жыл бұрын
❤ ... nice, keep and enjoy your treasure! 😎✌🏻
@barnbersonol
@barnbersonol Жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the etz 250. You forgot to mention that it was ergonomically a huge bike, bigger than a Superdream, but only weighed 130 kilos! Anyway, the most overlooked bike EVER was the Jawa 350. I own two. It was always the MZ's poor relation and generally despised but had similar performance/mpg to the MZ whilst being much more comfortable. It featured a clutch which engaged when you operated the gear change, a very torquey engine ( 60 mph at just 4000 and it STILL felt undergeared) and the best rear brake, drum or disc, ive ever encountered. While the MZ was a big seller, buyers steered clear of the Jawa despite it being even cheaper so ones left from the eighties are very, very rare. Almost unbelievably, theyre still being made and imported and cost just under five grand new. Theyre extremely reliable and require very little maintenance and none that you cant do yourself. Modern updates include leccy start, electronic ignition, a digital dash ( the jury's out on that!) and a front disc the size of a dustbin lid. But otherwise its the same engine and running gear as 1984. Biking's about individualism and they dont come more individual than the Jawa!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
I thought the 2 stroke Jawa's had been discontinued now? i thought it was only 4 strokes being made now? 🙂cheers for watching mate, ride free 🙂
@barnbersonol
@barnbersonol Жыл бұрын
@@barebonesmc F2 motors jawa David Angell. Based in Wisbech.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@barnbersonol interesting, i was wrong again lol
@petermacfarlane6478
@petermacfarlane6478 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The rf900 reminds me of my 1998 Gsxf750 teapot, used by couriers in their day & a strong gsxr based engine. I also owned a cx500 Honda but reading a report In its day about a knocking noise can develop in the engine, causing costly repairs, I sold it. Another bike loved by couriers.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
the cx was the couriers friend 🙂cheers for watching mate, ride free
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 11 ай бұрын
When i was a courier in the late 80s i started out on a company owned CB250N 🤮 a vile bike that was out of its depth as a workhorse. So i did what nearly everyone else did, and bout a CX. Mine was a 650E, and it never missed a beat. Other popular mounts were, Kawasaki GT550s, and Honda VT500s were starting to become common as the CX pool of bikes dried up. I also used an XBR500 for a while, that was good, nice and slim with a punchy single engine. But i saw guys on everything from TZR125s to CBX1000s 😆
@davidmann2988
@davidmann2988 Жыл бұрын
The RF900s were actually pretty popular. They were all over the place when I was younger
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
wheres that?there were a lot of 600s sold in the UK but not so many 900s, cheers for watching mate, ride free
@Mike75575
@Mike75575 11 ай бұрын
Those Rfs bent their frames with low speed small impacts . The forks staying straight.
@Backtoreality1873
@Backtoreality1873 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your channel. Thank you.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
cheers mate, im glad the work is appreciated :-) Cheers for watching , Ride Free
@richardminer1863
@richardminer1863 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video, been riding in the USA since the late 1960s. Half these bikes I've never seen or heard of, guess many did not make it over here? Wise advice at the end, I really miss the do most anything bikes. I've owned some odd short run bikes that I really enjoyed, wish I still had a few of them. Thanks for the video and memories!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it mate, have you watched the Maverick Motorcycles Video? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jLeHhMiglbjDe30.html theres a few oddities in there :-) Cheers for watching and the comment mate, Ride Free
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 11 ай бұрын
Its amazing to me how many bikes are sold in Europe, Oceania and other regions, but not in the US.
@DanielNoest
@DanielNoest 11 ай бұрын
My MZ ETZ 251's (successor to the ETZ 250) carried me and my wife and our luggage all across Europe. Just like any other Goldwing etc etc etc etc...... for the price of some Japanese wreck. Usually other bikers would regard us with either disdain (cannot afford anything better) or with amazement (how on earth did you get this far - answer: by riding the bike). The machine was simple, sturdy, dependable and reliable. And.... great fun!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
the force is strong in the MZ community :-) Ride free my friend
@kenwise4596
@kenwise4596 4 ай бұрын
In the US The TR1 was labeled XV and it was a big seller. Of course lots of big sellers there that I loved did not do well here or were never even offered.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 4 ай бұрын
they often use different model numbers in different countries, IMPORTANT Dakar have hit me with a copyright strike so ive had to delist some of the videos just in case i guess they got pissed that mine were better because of the MOTOGP one before xmas that means im really vulnerable now and the channel could be removed at any time I have set up this backup channel so please go and follow it NOW, this could all be removed at any moment now so it is critical to stay in touch via the backup channel here kzfaq.info/love/CSl6i-tZJNC5DQ38vgCtvw sorry for this if i get another strike it wipes out all my work all my old videos will be removed I wont be posting anything much on the new channel unless this goes down but this is a just in case because it really could go down at any point the videos are still visible if you have a link so if you have problems message me for links so you can still watch them, if you follow the channel and this one gets taken down you will be able to find me there sorry if thats a bit garbled ive just woken to this but i guess i could have had the channel taken down already so i should be thankful ride free
@CraftyOldGit
@CraftyOldGit 8 ай бұрын
Another interesting & entertaining video -- thanks. I had a Suzuki RF900 back in the day, a second generation I guess as it was black & not that rather garish silver & purple. I thought it was brilliant -- more comfortable than a full on sports bike, but still very fast. I saw over 150MPH when I glanced at the speedo when changing into top. It kept on pulling but I didn't dare look down again, so don't know what I was doing when I started to slow.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 8 ай бұрын
Great story, and yes, at that speed, best to keep looking forwards lol 🙂Cheers for adding your bit mate. Ride Free 🙂
@elmerfudd1086
@elmerfudd1086 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that video. I looked through your older vids and didnt see anything talking about the two strokes of the 70s. Ideas like how the RD350 or 400 regularly out paced large displacement machines or How the kawasaki triples built their fearsome reputation off the back of the H2 750. Im a two stroke fan so I would really like to see someone with your videographer skills put forth a proper tutorial on the seemingly forgotten smokers I grew up on.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
theres a lot in this ione here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nb-Vp72lqta0k4E.html but in a day or two there is another epic video coming you will love, cheers for watching mate, ride free
@davidpatterson9840
@davidpatterson9840 10 ай бұрын
The Triumph/BSA triples can be excellent, reliable bikes, once properly sorted. Unfortunately they were sales failures. Most dealers couldn't service them adequately and refused to learn. Could've been a great bike if BSA/Triumph had the money to develop the design.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 10 ай бұрын
great bikes, i would say victims of the British industry just thinking it knew better and not realising until after it was too late. they just considered the "Jap Crap" inferior and so didnt think they needed to change 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂
@simonvigouroux2462
@simonvigouroux2462 Жыл бұрын
No way... At the start of the video, I thought "that's a RF900" dash... I had one so I know 😂 amazing bike by the way... As you mentioned, not as sporty and folded in half as a supersport bike, but a very sport oriented sport tourer with 130bhp. Not bad for 1994/1996 right? Then you showed a MZ 250 2strokes... Now, when I was a kid, my parents didn't have a car... We had a MZ Etz 250... ... ... What a machine 😁 I didn't seem to catch it in the comments but maybe I just didn't hear properly but the MZ 250 had an anchor point from factory so that you could add a bucket to it and turn it into a side car... So yes, once again, thank you for another amazing video and for bringing me back to some really good times... 2 incredible, unbreakable and reliable bikes full of memories 😁
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
thanks for the wonderful comment mate, i can imagine you had some fun on the MZ outfit :-) Cheers for watching :-) Ride Free
@simonvigouroux2462
@simonvigouroux2462 Жыл бұрын
Sure did. Wonderful times indeed 😊
@samueljeppsen9785
@samueljeppsen9785 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I too have a love affair with old scoots. I currently own 3 old, out of production bikes and love showing up on them. Wouldn't sell them. Thx again for having an appreciation for the old.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
🙂Cheers for watching mate, ride free
@mrsilbo6499
@mrsilbo6499 Жыл бұрын
That was a well edited & informative video - thank you! You'd think Yamaha would've learned from the TR1 experience before repeating the same mistakes, more or less, with the BT1100 Bulldog. Owners love them, but there were never many sold & dealers ended up discounting heavily to move them on. MCN absolutely pilloried the bike, but they never understood what it was good at, although it didn't help that once again, the bike sat between 2 stools - neither a cruiser nor enough bhp or the handling to be a sport tourer. They're a popular 2nd hand buy now & prices are strong. What a missed opportunity!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
yep, a mate has one and loves it. bit limited on the corners but a much better bike than it seemed at the time 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@uhtred7860
@uhtred7860 11 ай бұрын
It wasn't just MCN, all the UK mags dumped on it. They released it at a race track (why?) and being out of its element many were crashed, so the "Fireblade appreciation society" er.....I mean "UK Bike Journalists" couldn't understand what sort of bike it was, and slammed them. As an ex, MT-01 (great bikes) rider, i'd own one, they look great.
@GTMarmot
@GTMarmot Жыл бұрын
Superb selection. Didn't see the Velocette coming! Does look like it was a premium product. I think both the RF600 and RF900 will come to be seen as desirable, just for being bikes of their time. Good observation about the Kawasaki 600 cams - the ZX ones with 2 groove marks on the cams will fit straight on that class of Kawasaki, although the 3-groove ones might not.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
re 2 groove marks on the cams will fit straight on that class of Kawasaki, although the 3-groove ones might not, that sounds like the voice of someone who knows that motor well :-) Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@larrynorsworthy8582
@larrynorsworthy8582 Жыл бұрын
What's rf?
@ianfrost3529
@ianfrost3529 11 ай бұрын
I loved the video. And I totally agree my mate had an x11 which I loved riding. Another bike my dads friend had which I really enjoyed riding was a Yamaha BT1100 bulldog not that quick but lovely looking and for me the perfect riding position and perfect for uk roads.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
The Bulldog came very close 🙂 i have a mate with one too n he loves it, it did ground out a bit easily for my liking though 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂
@stephenhouse7511
@stephenhouse7511 Жыл бұрын
I had a TR1 many years ago. Great bike with lots of character. And a fully enclosed chain too!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
lol, didnt realise they had a closed chaincase :-) i like practicality 🙂Cheers for watching mate, ride free
@othgmark1
@othgmark1 7 ай бұрын
​@@barebonesmcthe fully enclosed chain leaked In the warm climates of the western USA. Finding one with that still in place would be a rare find in the States.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 7 ай бұрын
@@othgmark1 now you see we never had that problem lol, it never gets hot in the UK lol
@DmacDomage
@DmacDomage Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video. In the quarter litre bikes I think the Yamaha SRV250S was a stunningly well put together bike that could surprise mid weight bikes in the twisties. Another was the Honda Spada 250 which was so much fun you'd be grinning from ear to ear for hours after a ride. The 6 speed box actually made it a comfortable 250cc at highway speeds. Unfortunately the price point was too high and many people passed it over. Australian Motorcycle News stated that it was a shame more experienced riders probably wouldn't consider it due to its small engine size. The reason for the high price was its frame, which was the first production bike with a hollow cast alloy frame.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Cheers for watching mate :-) We didnt get the Spada here :-( not sure if we got the SRV either to be fair. both look like they could have been great bikes. Ride Free my friend n thanks for adding your bit :-)
@DmacDomage
@DmacDomage Жыл бұрын
@@barebonesmc thank you for your videos. I'm 51 years old now and a lot of the bikes you've been mentioning throw my memory back to earlier days. My father and I went back to Wales when I was 30 (I left as a child for Australia) and we went to a casual biker meet up just West of the Midlands. For me, it was mind blowing coming from a Country with less than 30 million. The motorcycle culture in the UK is amazing. Keep up the good work.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@DmacDomage Cheers mate, i will do my best 🙂 and the support keeps me motivated 🙂
@moushunter
@moushunter Жыл бұрын
I had 2 sleeper models from Honda. A1981 GL500 Silverwing. It had the CX500 motor on a touring style bike. It had a Vettor fairing and removable bags. The passenger seat came off with the turn of a key and a rear trunk fit in it's place. It was quiet, held highway speeds with ease, and could cruise on all day + on a tank of gas. A bonus was the highway pegs could be turned inward behind the cylinders which would keep my feet and legs warm and dry in cold and/or damp weather. The other was a 1994 VF750 Magna 4. It was the next generation Magna. V4 engine, water cooled, very low seat height, light, and nimble. It was a billie goat on twisty mountain roads, but, unleash it on the highway and 11K rpms would bring you up over 125mph. The only drawback was a small gas tank. About 130 miles range.
@bikeserv
@bikeserv Жыл бұрын
X4s were great, and very tuneable. The x11 was a detuned 5 gear xx. Great bikes. Sad that a lot of x4 parts are no longer available
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
a small community to get parts made up too, a bit sad for such a great bike. i guess with the X 11 they figured no one would be able to hang on in 6th gear lol Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@Guitarooster52
@Guitarooster52 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@richnfamous59
@richnfamous59 8 ай бұрын
you're bang on with the Bros (or Hawk). the 650 version I owned didn't break any records but it was a really usable bike that could pootle along in traffic, keep up with much bigger bikes on the twisty bits, and toured really well with a tank bag and panniers. the only complaint I had was the small fuel tank which meant filling up every 120 miles or so. the engine is really nice - it's got loads of grunt from 2000 rpm if you get an american one (the Hawk) then rejet the carbs to make the mixture a tiny bit richer as it's super-lean, presumably for emissions reasons
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 8 ай бұрын
glad you enjoyed it mate, that engine does tune well 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂
@richnfamous59
@richnfamous59 8 ай бұрын
@@barebonesmc legend has it that the 650 lump was the choice of engine for the test bed bike Honda used to develop the single-sided swinging arm for the RC30. after the RC30 was launched, they found that the test bed was actually a really nice bike - which became the Bros/Hawk, aka RC31. the bike has almost no concessions to style for that reason - it was designed by engineers
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 8 ай бұрын
Great story 🙂Cheers for adding it mate. Ride Free 🙂
@darkdestroyer6634
@darkdestroyer6634 Жыл бұрын
Hey Dude, ever thought of doing a comparison of bikes that didn't make it because they may have been ahead of their time / ahead of market trends vs those that did? I commented recently in a FB group about the Yamaha TDM - look at all of the 270 crank parallel twin tall-roaders on the market now! And when you mentioned the Bros 650 I thought immediately of the SV650 which seems to have been a massive success.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
the TDM and SV both got a mention here, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jc-bdqpovN60qWw.html comparing them isnt something ive considered but ill give it some thoughts, and we can see if anyone else agrees with you that its a good angle, there is one new for old comparison ive been looking at and you never know 🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ride Free 🙂
@Stefan_trekkie
@Stefan_trekkie Жыл бұрын
Once upon a time, I had 94' Transalp with bross 400 engine. Fantastic machine. The version was made for some legal limitations on the capacity.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
interesting combination 🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@jimmyjam8795
@jimmyjam8795 Жыл бұрын
Loved my D plate 250, and owe so much to MZ AND my TS125. Fantastic machines that even came with a pump under the seat. 😊 Can't bellwether you talk about the TR1, cos I shared one with my dad when I had the 250 MZ😂
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
🙂 cheers for watching mate , Ride Free
@peteacher52
@peteacher52 11 ай бұрын
Very well said.As I get older, speed becomes less and less important. As background, my dad, before he was carted away by WW2 and before he married mum, had, in his youth bikes with names rarely heard now; Abingdon King Dick, Francis Barnett, Brough Superior (don't know where or how he got one of those!) ending with his favourite, from new, a BSA Empire Star. So I began motorcycling late in life with, in order, a CB200, an RD350, Kwakka 100 (my only brand new bike) a Yamaha SR500 and finally a Honda CX500 which proved too top-heavy for me to control at low speeds. Of the above, the SR500 was hands-down my favourite, powerful enough for my skill set and as nimble as a terrier in ratting mode around the twisties. The RD350 was a screaming go-like-hell extremely thirsty poltergeist that laid a smoke-screen the Bismarck would have been pleased with! But a comment in a M/c magazine hit me - "Skin grafts hurt!", so, in a matter of discretion it had to go. Of the bikes in your list, I most closely relate to the Velocette 200 - perfect for an old joker of 76 to potter around in the slow lane of a fine Sunday afternoon. Col, NZ
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 10 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard mate, enjoy the ride, which 100cc Kawasaki? I started on a KC100 :-) heers for the support
@timhicks2154
@timhicks2154 Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine just bought a 650 V-twin Honda. Goes & handles well. Sips fuel. Good all-rounder.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
it is a good engine , tunes well too 🙂cheers for watching mate, ride free 🙂
@kevincaselle3174
@kevincaselle3174 Жыл бұрын
I have never heard of the Honda X-11. nor have I seen one, even after watching this video! (except for the riders pov ). A profile shot would have been welcome. Good video though...I really enjoy the channel. Cheers!
@peterjohn3123
@peterjohn3123 Жыл бұрын
Had an MUZ 500 SIVERSTAR that bike was glued to the road in turns. Had it for 7 years. What a blast to ride.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
i was sorely tempted by one last year, had never seen one before when it came up, looked a great little bike
@noahwail2444
@noahwail2444 Жыл бұрын
Exelent collection, thanks for making it. I have a slight correction on the TR1, it was not a Harley copy, it was a copy of a HRD Vincent. Unlike a Harley, it could turn corners, and stop. Plus that exelent monochok rear suspension. I drove one for 15 years, and was very found of it. And had a MZ EZ 150 as a winters bike, it was a lot less thirsty as the 250..
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
to be fair if i said copy i didnt mean that, it was built to challenge the Harley engine, but i dont always stick to script lol Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@williamquinn5491
@williamquinn5491 Жыл бұрын
hi mate my bike kinda fits in with this vid, for the past 16 years have owned and ridden a 1982 kawasaki gpz550h, iam 61 years old and rarely ride but my old girl, but she dose still puts a smile on my face, she is about too be registered historic this month,, i kinda want too ride again but health is against me, great vids keep up the good work and ride safe
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
enjoy what you can mate. and well done for keeping the old girl going. Cheers for watching , Have a good one
@christinebeckett7060
@christinebeckett7060 Жыл бұрын
I had the bros 400. It was one of the best bikes I ever owned. Reliable, with great handling. Here in the UK it was available only as a grey import. I bought mine from BAT Motorcycles in Norwood.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
:-) Cheers for watching mate and thanks for the comment,, grey imports are a goldmine and minefield at the same time lol :-) Cheers for watching mate and thanks for the comment, enjoy your weekend enjoy your weekend
@frankmarkovcijr5459
@frankmarkovcijr5459 Жыл бұрын
I remember a Honda motorcycle commercial where they stated even a ninja has to hide from a hurricane. They used to make good motorcycle ads on TV but not anymore.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
thats a killer line :-)
@Nikki_Holland
@Nikki_Holland 11 ай бұрын
Here’s one for you the Suzuki Madura 1200 (they also did a 700cc version). I think it was a VMax rival with a V4 engine. It was only made for a couple of years in the mid 1980s.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 10 ай бұрын
great bikes, I had to stop somewhere though mate 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 11 ай бұрын
Your description of the 600 eliminator is how I feel about my shadow. Nimble for a cruiser. Thanks for the video.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 11 ай бұрын
🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂
@user-hx2uf4re2f
@user-hx2uf4re2f 11 ай бұрын
i dunno im sorta liking rf 900 dunno its out there id love to ride one i wonder if youve ever ridden a yam trx any thoughts great vid well made well detailed
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 10 ай бұрын
the TRX are great bikes, future classic, and i love Genesis engines so im biased 🙂
@philc8575
@philc8575 Жыл бұрын
Great videos! Having ridden for 50+years i enjoy watching the old bikes! Sadly many of the bikes you report on weren't available in the US! Subbed!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard mate, you got some we didnt get too :-) Cheers for watching :-) Ride Free
@philc8575
@philc8575 Жыл бұрын
@@barebonesmc Thanks, Brother! Stay safe!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@philc8575 You too Phil
@holisticaustralia
@holisticaustralia Жыл бұрын
I love your movies mate, no need to reply, keep em coming! 🍻
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
have a good weekend mate :-)
@ernstrichardmesserle9813
@ernstrichardmesserle9813 7 ай бұрын
Great review, a learn much of your interpetation of being happy with a no name Bike. It all starts as boy and his bicycle. Expanding the circle around Mam and Dad. Explore a further Environment. Feeling the power of moving forward until forgetting gravity. Moving by wheel is deep down humansoul desire. For me. I am 58, riding 40 years, on 22 differnt motorcycles on Austrias streets. As Long as a can crawl to my motorcycle - I ' ll keep on riding till the end.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 7 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard mate, glad it jogged some good memories, enjoy the ride and cheers for the support
@curtisway5957
@curtisway5957 Жыл бұрын
I have the Honda Hawk 650 GT (aka RC31) and it is a superbly fun motorcycle. Everything is a compromise but the Hawk is one of the best possible compromises. Comfortable enough to ride to the beach, nimble enough to be fun in the curves, lovely torquey v-twin. Deadly serious sportbike, well no, but that's the beauty of it. Simplicity has a charm all it's own. It takes me back to when I first started riding, it was fun then, and can be fun now, provided that you have the right bike.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
🙂 the right bike FOR YOU, 🙂 that is the key, finding the right bike that fits your riding, too many get swayed into bikes that dont really suit them for many reasons 🙂cheers for watching mate, ride free 🙂
@Adibarum
@Adibarum Жыл бұрын
I had an Suzuki RF600 for many years which i loved, but has always been a very underrated sports tourer
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
agreed, it had a hard time, very competitive sector back then with the cbr, cbf, zzr and thundercat, when 600cc was king of the roads :-)🙂 Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@devilsreject320
@devilsreject320 Жыл бұрын
Good to see a MZ. I have one etz 250 f.reg 12000 miles. Would like to see more on this bike. How many are left on the road. Where are riders clubs etc.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
there are a couple of good and helpful forums i use on Fb, the MZ riders and MZ 2 stroke guys are really welcoming, 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free
@Free_Ranger_CT110
@Free_Ranger_CT110 Жыл бұрын
My MZTS250 was well loved, by me! Two up touring the South of France on my 250 back in the day. Happy days.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
im sure mate. I wonder if it is one of the ones still going :-) Cheers for watching, Ride Free
@robertdavey319
@robertdavey319 Жыл бұрын
Love your reviews , can you do a story on the rare Bultaco Metralla, an awesome little bike that I loved but now seriously regret selling to "upgrade " to a big 750 when I was 20
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
its not a bike i know anything about to be honest mate, but i will add it to a list for research, 🙂Cheers for watching mate, Ride Free 🙂
@chapusa100
@chapusa100 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Please do one of Bikes that were great, but production was stopped like the Honda 90 trail bike with a gear shifter that allows you to kick with your heel to change down gears.....
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
hmm thatl need some thought, ill see what i come up with 🙂cheers for watching mate, ride free 🙂
@andrerobertdrouin3642
@andrerobertdrouin3642 Жыл бұрын
I had a Honda CD 175 twin ONE CARB TBone frame tHAT I NEVER SAW AN OTHER ON THE ROAD , but the CB175 twin carb tube frame was plentiful and built a few years , mine only built one year but i loved my bike , it was rock solid handled well , when i changed it i had 11000 miles on the odo but started to need new pistons , rings .
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
they are a great bike 🙂cheers for watching mate, ride free 🙂
@simonchilli2088
@simonchilli2088 Жыл бұрын
The trouble with these videos is that I end up adding a bike to my wish list that I'd not heard of or more likely had forgotten about. In this case my choice is similar to yours...Honda x 4. Lovely entertaining video and food for thought on my research into motorcycles. Cheers to you.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
pmsl, enjoy your RESEARCH mate lol. mine filled 2 garages and a 6 x 3 marquee. i keep clearing them out then something catches my eye lol The latest is a 650 Pegaso Cube, the ADV bike people forget, but im just a sucker for Rotax engines :-) Cheers for watching , Have a good one
@simonchilli2088
@simonchilli2088 Жыл бұрын
@@barebonesmc Dare I research the Pegaso🤔
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@simonchilli2088 lol. early ones are better although the later ones had what some might call the better Minarelli/Yamaha 660 engine. first year was an air cooled rotax similar to the Cagiva Canyon, River and W16, but 2nd gen had a watercooled Rotax engine similar to the BMW 650 single, but 5 valve head and revs sooooooooooo much better than the 660 🙂 if you are really lucky some of the early ones had longer travel suspension, but even the suspension on mine which isnt the longer one is great. amazes me how small and light it is compared to the bikes of today. over 30kg lighter than a 790 adventure or T7 🙂
@simonchilli2088
@simonchilli2088 Жыл бұрын
@@barebonesmc Great reply thanx. Watching these videos and other YTs is much better than watching TV.
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
@@simonchilli2088 im at the point of getting rid to be honest. I only use it to watch the racing now lol. have a good one mate
@johnharrison8480
@johnharrison8480 6 ай бұрын
As I have matured I have learned to love smaller motorcycles, back in the 70's I fell for Moto Morini when their highest displacement engine was a 350cc. I toured the UK on a Honda Dream 250cc twin with my wife and luggage. I loved my Yamaha RD 60, until it was stolen and wrecked by some children in my wealthy neighborhood. Once the power craziness recedes, the joy of the open air, the leaning into corners, and the special membership in our two wheeled society is all still there on smaller, LIGHTER, more fuel effient,less expensive motorcycles!
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc 6 ай бұрын
well said mate
@DG-mi7yf
@DG-mi7yf Жыл бұрын
Love the content. As a Canadian I can’t relate to a lot of the bikes. Japanese and American bikes are pretty much all I know. Still enjoy the content even if it’s a bike I’ve never heard of
@barebonesmc
@barebonesmc Жыл бұрын
thatks mate, part of the fun for me is hearing about the US bikes we never got, or got in small numbers :-) Cheers for watching, Ride Free
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