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I do not understand people who get upset over someone liking a game. There are plenty of games that I don’t like, but I’m glad that there are people who do.

OH MY GOD, THANK YOU! Twitter's hatred over XBC 2 is just annoying! All they do is scream how much it's a "sin" yet offer no meaningful criticism. They just call it bad just because it has big boobs and that's it! And Heaven forbid if you bring up the optional Bunny Girl.

The people who hate xenoblade 2 for the girls are people who just hate anime.

I stopped paying attention to game "journalists" a long time ago. I'll bet these are all solid.

I didnt realize people hated P5 Strikers. I loved that game. It acted as a sequel and was much more of a Persona game rather than I Dynasty Warriors game (I love both series btw). The soundtrack was amazing, especially the remix of Last Surprise so freaking good!!

Glad to see Hero must Die on this list. It's such a hidden gem. As for Soul Hackers 2, another big issue was the lack of a Switch version, which made no sense for a dungeon crawler. A late port with all the DLC included would've improved it's reception.

Xenoblade 2 is my favorite Xenoblade. The element-based combat was so fun once you learned how to properly Launch and Smash and pull off millions of damage! Couple that with the music, the locations and the characters and mwah! Loved it! 💕 Can't say the same for XC3. The game felt so humorless. The military aesthetic felt so stoic and cold. The Smash and Launch mechanics didn't feel nearly as satisfying to pull off as they did in XC2, and 3's final boss just draaaaaaagggggggeeeeeeddddd.... I'll take XC2 any day.

I like a lot of the Idea Factory and Neptunia games but they always get so much crap lol

I’m loving the frequent uploads lately! And I also like seeing games mentioned in multiple episodes. It’s basically a reminder for me to get a specific game I might be interested in.

Xenoblade 2 is my favorite of the series. It just hit everything I want from a JRPG and really got me into the series. I bounced off of 1 when it released on the Wii because the quests just burnt me out. So 2 did a really good job of pulling me in and properly enjoying the series. I have a couple of games on the list that are still on the backlog like Soul Hackers 2 that I have to find time to try out before I have an opinion.

Nobody else likes Game Freak's Little Town Hero and it BLOWS MY MIND. It is such an insanely fun game.

Xenoblade 2? Hated? I didn't know that; the game was a massive success. I think the haters are just really vocal while the people who actually like it have moved on. Hating on games intended to appeal to the male-audience is pretty popular in the mass media nowadays.

Sexualized characters is a positive not a mark against a game

Does the game have sexy/lewd waifus? Shut up and take my money. Great character design should _always_ be rewarded.

Xenoblade 2 holds a special place in my heart but at the same time just like all 3 games

Unlimited SaGa is one for me. I totally understand why western players didn't vibe with it. No one really knew anything about it and in true SaGa fashion, there's no tutorial. But once I watched someone do a speedrun and they were explaining how the game works, so I picked it up again and I truly love it! I also love that, in true SaGa fashion, it's unapologetically itself.

Great video. Haters are going to hate. That's all they know how to do.

Soul Hackers 2 still has a chance if they release it for the switch 2 with QOL updates and more story added. It would probably work better as a portable experience anyway.

Good stuff Ren! I really liked Soul Hackers 2 and Dusk Diver 2. I'm pretty sure I bought DD2 at your recommendation actually. Xenoblade 2 I haven't gotten around to playing. I feel like a lot of people seem to think anything under 80% on Metacritic is trash, when it really is more like "77 out of 100 people will have some fun with this." To be fair though, with so MANY games coming out most of us can't keep up, and only want to spend our money on things we feel confident about.🤷‍♀️

People who hate on fun games for having waifus/sexy characters are usually miserable creatures who try to find what passes for joy in their sad lives by searching stuff to be offended and upset about. Ruining other people’s enjoyment is to them more important than actually pursuing their own happiness. So f’ their “opinions”. Beautiful art and design is certainly a big part of my enjoyment of games, be it the settings, the characters, or whatever. I’m not fond of the word “waifu”,but I’m all aboard with the concept. Surprised you haven’t covered Bullet Girls Phantasia yet, though perhaps I missed the video? The English translated Asian version is fairly cheap now on Playasia so check it out if you don’t have it. It’s a pretty hilarious and fun game for sure. Keep up the great work, man. You’re one of the very few KZfaqrs I give a like to before even watching the video, and I’m yet to be disappointed!

ok so i beat xenoblade 2 and liked it, the 2 big problems i had were the tutorials being wrong part of the time and no way to rewatch them, 2 i didnt care for the gatcha system, other then i really liked playing it

I love Xenobalde Chronicles 2 so much, I even bought Pyra for Smash Bros. Ultimate, the only Smash Bros. DLC I ever bought, didn't even buy Bayonetta for Smash Bros. on Wii U. Else I don't really know what games that I like are hated, maybe anything by Compile Heart or the Gal*Gun games, or Senran Kagura, but with all those games the people who hate them are usually a certain group. Maybe Hard Edge/T.R.A.G. on PS1? Ah, Deus Ex Invisible War on Xbox.

Need more of these. Love the list. There's some I haven't tried. Soul hackers 2 has a really interesting concept on the devil summoner lore, and for that alone it's worth checking out if you're an SMT/persona fan. Also, I just want to say; I've seen the jrpg community time and time again ask for a nice, small linier style jrpg that's relatively short to beat with "no high school kid simulator" and here's one of the best examples staring us all in the face. I really think we all took this game for granted and didn't give it a chance to take root and improve upon its systems. Huge Xenoblade Chronicles fan. Played them all and the DLC. Rex was just misunderstood by the haters. He's a god among men, and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is better than XB-1 in my opinion (XB1 is great, don't get me wrong. But 2 is just genuinely better in every way mechanically aside from your personal preference in story differences that I understand). The combat, and blades are some of the best free gacha combat you can get in gaming history, and it was ahead of its time -- eventually gifting us the almighty Ouroboros system, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 being my favorite in the series I think my biggest example of a game I see hated on that I love is Tales of Legendia. It's my favorite in the series and I love the art/american voice actors/characters/music. It was unique and really hard to stop playing.

Something I learned back in the days of NES, is that even terrible games can grow on you given enough time. Back then you basically bought based on the box, there was no return once you opened it, you played it until your next birthday or Christmas. Every game, good or bad, new or old, was $50. At least until 91 or so.

I don't get around to commenting nearly as much as I should, but I REALLY appreciate hearing a content creator's personal opinions not simply received Reddit wisdom. Keep it coming and best wishes all around. Been a fan for a while.

Xenoblade 2 is my favorite switch game.. 3 was good as well but I didn't enjoy it as much

glad to see someone else likes soul hackers 2, I love it for the same reason I love Tokyo mirage sessions. they're definitely budget games but they feel like atlus actually trying something new instead of more of the same smt and persona style that they know sells

Soul Hackers 2 is so good man. They did a great job with voiced protag in it

My problem with Soul Hackers 2 on release was just how slow everything was. They did eventually patch in the ability to run in dungeons and speed up combat, which fixes a huge problem. Kinda surprised you didn't mention that at all in the video

As a fan of the entire FFXIII trilogy, I understand your feelings entirely. It's rough when it feels like everyone else in the world is dunking on your taste and preferences. You start to wonder whether there's something wrong with you, or whether it's everyone else.

I enjoyed Poison Control, but I did fall off and never finished it because it got a little too samey for me. Your tangent about about playing games without story brought me back to the old days. Story? You talking about story? Mario didn't have a real story! Pong?! We had two lines hitting a pixel back and forth and we were grateful!!!! 🤣

"Mayby im just a shallow human being" well your name is hallow lol. I'll die on the hill of persona strikers as i enjoyed my time with that game tenfolds over persona 5r. Poison control is the definition of a hidden gem as i would have not even known about its existence till a psn sale and im grateful.

I find tank controls to be less fidgety personally. Like in Tomb Raider, you know exactly how many steps you need, even if you are sometimes pressed to speedrun.😅

Love to see another Xenoblade 2 fan! I played the first on my Wii when it come out, and i am currently playing the third... but the second one is my favourite, i loved it! I also enjoyed Dusk Diver, while the second is in my backlog, along with DaemonXMachina. Maybe it's finally time for me to play them.

Anyone who claims to hate waifus must not really play JRPGs. It would be like a Madden player who hates athletes, or a COD player who hates guns.

Xbc2 and golden country not only have the best story but also the best gaming mechanics in the series. If a new Xeno game comes out, I would want more inspiration to be drawn from 2 than any other.

Ren, I absolutely love your videos and pick up most of the intriguing games on Steam. I have a question and somewhat of a favor to ask you. Can you suggest or do a video of a handful of MUST HAVE GAMES for those of us who are new to JRPG's on the Switch? I'm not a fan of turn based battles so that has held me back from trying some of your games. There are so many damn games on the Switch, I don't know what to start with. Thanks man.... I appreciate your work!

I love all the xenoblade games. My favorite is probably Xenoblade Chronicles X (got totally lost in that world for 200+ hours) but since the cowards at nintendo won't port it off the WiiU, I'd say XBC2 is next lol. The psuedo gacha mechanic sucked but it allowed for a huge supporting cast, many with their own side stories. The characters in general were just fun. Pyra and Mythra were great. Rex was a fairly stereotypical shonen protagonist and i enjoyed all the rest of the supporting cast. The story also goes HARD once you get about halfway in. I enjoyed XBC3, but it felt like a step back. More bland environments, a less likable cast, a less flashy and somehow more messy battle system and just a geneal bleak tone. Good RPG. Not as good as its predecessor. Side note: for a long time, Soul Hackers 2 was on GamePass. It, sadly, has been taken off now, but while it was there i tried it out. I didnt finish it but i could definitely appreciate the art, characters, etc even if the level design was a bit dull.

I love xenoblade chronicles 2, it's my favorite from the trilogy.

Kind of random but Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days is a renowned “bad game” but I can’t dislike it no matter what people say, I think about it consistently after all these years. Also I love this channel, man!

I will hear NO blasphemy against Dusk Diver or Dusk Diver 2! I’ll admit, some of these I haven’t had the pleasure of playing but I will not allow any slander towards Dusk Diver!!!! Stellar video my brother! You tell ‘em!!!

xenobabe chronicles 2 is my most fav game ever made. and it always will be... played it well over 1000 hours by now and i'll play it thousands more until the day i kick the bucket.

It’s funny, I was gonna say Xenoblade chronicles 2 and then you brought it up. It’s literally my favorite Xenoblade game along with Torna the Golden country.

Final Fantasy VIII, the XIII trilogy and Star Ocean: The Last Hope are games a lot of people aren't too fond of, but they're near and dear to my heart ❤

I need to address some things you don't completely understand because I'm not sure you understand the trend here. People who complain about story really about gameplay. As long as the story is good, gameplay can be subpar. You also have to know that people who complain about serialization of characters are crazy to the point where playing the game is unbearable to look at and impossible to play. They're also a little mixed with the 1st group too

Keep sticking to your guns man. I love Pyra so much lol and xeno2 is just pure fun its what gaming is about. Ive had dusk diver 2 sitting on the shelf for a while now and haven't touched it yet sadly

Godzilla for PS4. I bought Overwatch due to the recommendations and hype, but was bummed that there wasn't a solo campaign. I returned it and ended up with a few titles, with Godzilla being one of them. The only flaw is the saving system (or lack thereof), but it's my favorite game to just chill and destroy. Love what you love, and if other people go out of their way to tell you otherwise: good! More for you.

All of this game you mention is now back on my radar. I have a feeling games you mention here will probably go up in value because of the disparity between it's real and perceived value. This might as well be titled criminally underrated games.

xc3 may be the best in terms of gameplay, but xc2 I love the most. It simply heals an aching soul

I tried to love dusk diver 2 but here are my nitpicks: 1) You run/sprint pressing the L3 stick instead of ZR like the first game or many action games (you cant change controls). 2) enemies are so spongie, any mob could take forever to kill. 3) that first boss tho’ gave me headaches.

You... do spend most of the game in Dusk Diver 2 in one city. The city of Taipei. You do visit more locations in the city than in the first game (like Dadaocheng that you might also recognise from The Legend of Tianding), but it's still within one city. I agree that it's not much of a criticism though. DD2 is a beatiful and fun to play game, but as a sequel... I can't agree that it's an upgrade in every way. While DD1 was mostly a brawler bordering on Musou-type, with some RPG elements, DD2 is more of an action RPG and, I think, that's where criticisms come from - especially if you're coming straight from DD1, the differences can be jarring. Stat upgrades play now a bigger role, which make for more recognisable progression, but at the same time, make it look like it's a bit less about player skill than it's about big stats. Another thing - attacks. While in the first game you had access to all attacks at a time, in DD2, a lot of those got relagated to active skills, that you can only equip 4 or so (I'll admit it's been a while since I played it, so might be getting details wrong). In DD1 all attacks were situational, while in DD2 nearly all early skills are exchanged for ones with better stats as game progresses. I that's something I took personally - one of my favourite attacks in DD1, was the 1-2 hook combo, that could be repeated few times, going 1-2,1-2,1-2-1-2-1-2.... and in DD2 - not only you can't spam it like in DD1, it's stats are poor and there's little to no reason to even equip it. There are also some smaller changes, that can just rub you the wrong way - like the super meter being a generic bar instead of stylish hair filling. Or that super mode is no longer the event it was in DD1 - no longer you have a track accompanying your Super Saiyan transformation (I effin loved it in DD1, made the final battle even better with lyrics popping in). Sure, it makes sense to have more universal bar, since now it applies to all characters - one can say it's a small trade-off for having more playable characters, and sure, track for transformation isn't much of a deal in-of-itself, but both made my time in first game all the more enjoyable, and leave an empty seat, so to speak, that I don't think anything filled in. Dusk Diver 2 is a very different game to the original, which sparks conflicting opinions on it as a sequel. It''s a very fun game and I hope the series will see another release... that's not a just a DLC for another game.

23:04 "A snowball would have a better chance in the 7th circle of hell of surviving..." You know, in the Divine Comedy the 7th circle of Hell, Cocytus,, is described as entirely frozen over, binge the prison of Satan, so I think a is snowball would have pretty good chance at surviving there

Hated by who? Xenoblade 2 sold 3 million copies and is easily the most successful game in the series. Twitter activists and woke game "journalists" speak for no one.

Also, we alllll know the type of people that hate waifus. Those people don't deserve the time of day, we know our waifus are beloved and there's nothing that anyone can do about it.

Yeah, this is a subject I'm all too familiar with. There are plenty of games I like that are seemingly despised everywhere else. Heck, I can think of a number of channels who seemingly go out of their way just to hate on not just some games, but entire franchises and even developers at that. Just one of the unfortunately natures of being into the more niche stuff I guess, they are relatively easier and safer targets to harass. Anyway, I've actually played and enjoyed some of the games listed on here myself. Namely "Poison Control" and "Dusk Diver 2", though "Hero Must Die Again" is on my wishlist.

Musou games have improved so much, P5S got ruled out as one but after Dragon Quest heroes 1 and 2, those were really good news and it delivered. I wish the Xenoblade Chronicles games were available on PC, I only played the first one on the Wii but I never bought another nintendo console ever again and still have no plans.

yeah P5 Strikers rocks. my only issue, and tbf it's a big one, is the lack of Akechi. I also love Xenoblade 2 and genuinely think it's one of the better games ever made. being honest a lot of these feel more like deep cuts than actually hated games lol

My problem with Deamon X Machina is the strong red tint of the game, it's bordering painful. I also started on Xenoblade X then Xenoblade 1 but I really liked Xenoblade 2.

Great to see some love for Xenoblade 2 and DaemonXMachina !

8:59 to be fair, it was hard for me to get into even in the tutorial. I am with you in regards to story, if the story was just “you are a mercenary, you do mercenary things as you build up your mech’s power” I’m cool with it. But as it stands with gameplay, I can’t seem to get a good grasp of it.

I love love Metroid Other M. I’ve never been a big story guy so I could care less about the problems people have with the story. It’s fast and fluid, the ship is fun to explore, and Samus has a lot of cool moves. That’s all I need in a video game.

I love videos like this. Reminded me of a couple games I wanted to try before, and made me want to give Soul Hackers another chance. Also, who cares about the waifu haters? Those people suck.

I love the warriors games and I have Strikers in my backlog and can't wait to get to it. Edit: I love waifus and will be playing XC2 when I get around to it.

Somehow many of my favorite games end up being ones everyone else seems to dislike. Two of my favorite games of all time are: - Dark Souls 2 - Tokyo Mirage Sessions Your list was also full of great games. I haven’t played all of them, but I can vouch for Poison Control, Daemon x Machina, XC2, and Soul Hackers 2. All fantastic games!

Xenoblade chronicles 2 is my favorite Xenoblades. I love it from the blades to the super bosses, definitely an amazing game and it’s my favorite RPG on the Switch. I thought it was amazing that all the blades had a different artist create them (almost all the blades I believe some had the same artist)

Dusk Diver 2 left my moobies hurting. Poor ladies must have had circular bruising.

I love waifus/sexy characters and people who hate on that are just sad pathetic people who has nothing to else to do with their lives, but hate on stuff.

I absolutely loved Xenoblade Chronicles 2. The story was amazing, they gave all the Rare blades their own quests, where we learn more about them. We learn about the Antagonists reasons for doing what they did. The character designs were incredible too, and I liked the open world play style. I'll admit I can see why some people disliked it, since some quests don't tell you how or where to get certain items. But there's guides for a reason.

I liked playing Poison Control myself a year or two ago. I just think one thing that killed some of my enjoyment that some of the later levels had some ingame lag and for some reason I had a few times where my game kinda crash during the final level a few times. (forgot if it did a level earlier or not) Also some weapons just weren't as useful as others and I wished it had a bit more enemy variety but still I did have fun in my playthrough, however. It just needed some more polishing to be more of a classic.

People upset what we love to play. Too narrowed minded. Expand your horizon on all game genres.

One man’s trash is another man’s treasure

Gotta say I agree with your assessment of Soul Hackers 2. It’s a very fun and good game. It’s no Persona, but it was never supposed to be. You’re correct that the biggest issue was the pricing and DLC. The thing that kills me about it is that if all of the issues around this game boil down to the fact that it’s too expensive… then why don’t people just get it on sale? Why not just pass on the DLC? It’s a damn shame because I had a heap of fun playing that game.

I've often thought about this same topic. With some of the standout games on my list being Final Fantasy 13, Metroid: Other M, and Sonic Forces.

Adding Hero Must Die Again to my wishlist that sounds fantastic. I find most people don't actually hate time mechanics they just think they do so it intimidates them from trying games that have them like Dead Rising and Pathfinder: Kingmaker both games that most who actually try like and the few that don't like them almost always cite something other than the time management as their complaint just as an example.

Got Soul Hackers 2 half off during an anime game sale at GameStop. Not the best I've ever played but I was fine with that given I'd only spent $30. I think what I really didn't love was the dungeons. I need to give it more time when I have a chance because I liked the customization.

Good call on the Sea of Stars music in the middle of the video! I love poison control too!

12:44 I got this game and it did take time to get into right out of the first game but, it’s still a pretty good game.

I love Vampire Hunter D, and I purchased Dusk Diver 1&2 from PlayAsia way before it came to the west with limited edition collections. And thanks for telling me about Daemon X Machina, I'll be sure to get a copy. And yeah Soul Hackers 2 got done dirty, but i still play it.

don't forget the fun dialogue options Joker has in persona 5 strikers

P5 Strikers rocks, and I don’t care what anyone says, especially the soundtrack. Speaking of, are you a “Daredevil” or “Counter Strike” guy? I go back and forth between them both as my favorites, but both songs are jams.

Excellent video, nice to see some different perspectives on some of these games. almost missed some of them!

my experience with daemon x machina is getting to the final boss of the campaign and not being able to win because you don't have enough ammo to deplete his hp lmfao

I love the hot takes, takes a lot to go against the grain. Earned my sub 👍👍

I’ve never heard of dusk divers 2 but it looks like it’s right up my alley so thank you!

Persona 5 Strikers is a fantastic game and I completely agree with you on that. With Persona 5 being one of my favorite games of all time, I would play any genre if it meant the continuation of the story and the ability to spend more time with the characters. The game itself was a nice refresher compared to the usual, strictly turn-based combat system. The story engaging from the beginning to the end. A great spin off that I was sad to see end.

The problem is often many people can't understand people have different tastes and tolerances. They also don't understand they can like something that is bad, and the bad thing still be bad. I just hate when people want to make their thing sound so much better than my thing, when I can point out their own thing is just as if not more bad, especially when it's for the EXACT SAME REASONS MINE IS "SO BAD!" Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess for example. I love TP the most, and honestly have little desire to ever play OoT and WW anymore. But why is TP often considered "so bad?" Because Hyrule Field is "so empty." What about the OoT Hyrule Field? And it's 2 or 3 secret pits, a few peahats during day, and stalchildren at night? That's rather empty and bland, too. Also, OoT is old 3D and jank AF. And WW, why is the ocean so beloved by so many? It's very empty and bland to me, to the point it's the primary reason I don't care to go back to that game. WW was also the most "push A to win" game out of the entire series. Also, TP Link vs. WW Link, the debate of expressiveness vs. not. Sure, the toony Link is much more expressive, it's a toony style, and he's like 12 years old, of course he's much more expressive. TP Link isn't nearly as expressive due to the graphics some, but he is older, also has much more deep emotional bonding situations happening around him, often with much darker themes as well. Also, TP has Midna, the best companion by a huge margin. TP is best Zelda, fight me.

The only thing i hate about Daemon X Machina is Marvelous made Code Geass DLC exclusive to Japan only

A game i like that's also one of the most hated games for no good reason is Final Fantasy 13. For some reason it was really popular to create a massive hate campaign against it before it even released which created a brain washing effect that made people believe FF13 was the worst game of all time without even playing 1 second to try it out. Not until recently in the past couple years people started to try it out and are totally blown away just how good of a game it is compared to what they were told.

Xenoblade 2 is a very slow burner tho. Getting past the early parts is a little bit of a trial... but if you can stick with it, it gets much better

10:38 1. I’ll eat up anything Persona/shin megami tensei related 2. I am a musou addict, I’ll play any that can grab my attention. Mix the two? I’m in heaven.

Poison Control is 3 dollars on the PSN store by the way.

My problems with DxM had little to do with the story; I thought the lore that cropped up between missions was pretty neat, even if it wasn't what I was there for. I enjoyed the weapon loadouts I was able to put together by the end of the game even. But it felt like there just weren't very many combinations of cool and useful weapons even after I'd finished basically all the missions in the game. There were my cool standbys of big melee weapon, big laser, consistent gun, and missile launchers, but beyond those, I didn't see what else I should be kitting my mech out with. At least it was good for acclimating to this genre of game, so when people say it's "Armored Core, but worse" I feel very confident that I'd be able to get into Armored Core. What's frustrating about the XC2 discourse is it draws people away from some legitimate issues with the gameplay that are present. The game is legitimately very fun, but it puts up a lot of obstacles to keep you from learning how to enjoy it. It's well-accepted in the Xenoblade circles I travel that the tutorials just aren't very good, and fans have made a number of spoiler-free guides to understanding the systems so it's possible to get the most out of the game regardless. I feel the game would benefit most from a Definitive Edition treatment that rectifies that, as well as some UI issues here and there.

Persona Strikers, One Piece Pirate Warrior, Fire Emblem, Warriors All Stars, etc. were all enjoyable games. So many mindless hours lost. Definitely got a sub.

Another overhated game: Final Fantasy 15

I bought Poison Control on release day, I liked it. It's not fantastic but it was a fun game and it filled a small part of the gigantic hole of Mega Man Legends 3's cancelation. I thought Red Ash would help but it's "existence" just makes the hole bigger.

Never played the first two but they look interesting. The rest are all good games. Surprised to find out they are “hated.” Especially Strikers. The only criticism I’ve heard is about the lack of Royal content.

Dynasty Warriors/Musou is awesome, it's just pure fun and not as braindead as people think. It's even weird seeing it getting hate from JRPGs fans, since there's always so much customization, setups and optimization to it. Some of the best of the series were the crossovers/licensed titles, like Gundam 2, Hyrule Warriors, Fire Emblem Three Hopes (this one was special!).

As the "Official Dusk Diver Ambassador to the West", I welcome your challenge to my throne.

Is it alright to go straight to Dusk Divers 2, or should I try the first game?