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$900 P Bass Vs $2400 P Bass - Precision Bass Shootout

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Scott's Bass Lessons

Scott's Bass Lessons

Күн бұрын

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@oqsy
@oqsy 7 жыл бұрын
Video advertised in description actually begins at 7:45
@benjaminmiramontes3693
@benjaminmiramontes3693 6 жыл бұрын
Oqsy God bless you
@jakublistwon
@jakublistwon 6 жыл бұрын
Oh hell, somebody call the police! We have to arrest Scott for that!
@daviderwin1204
@daviderwin1204 7 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new studio, Scott! There are few things more exciting in life that creating a new space custom to the needs of your creative expressions. I'm buzzing on your excitement and looking forward to following your adventures here!
@tedkaczynski3126
@tedkaczynski3126 3 жыл бұрын
Nigga balls
@WoutervanTiel
@WoutervanTiel 7 жыл бұрын
Don't you love that moment when you get that long box with the nice new bass inside?
@cracgor
@cracgor 7 жыл бұрын
I think this is a perfect review of the difference between a cheaper bass and a more expensive bass. I have two Warwicks (a p/j combo pro series and a custom neck thru $$) and an active j-style Rockbass by Warwick. The difference in sound is in the variety of sound. The expensive ones have active/passive switches and better tone controls. The biggest reason to have a more expensive instrument is for the musician, not the audience. The finishes are just nicer and it makes the instrument a little more playable. Like smoother fret ends, a faster neck, more comfortable body, or glow in the dark side dots. You can definitely gig a cheaper instrument, you will just enjoy the ride more with a more finished instrument.
@dubswarner
@dubswarner 7 жыл бұрын
The Moollon is beautiful. Love that 'dolphin' gray with the brown pickguard.
@AndrewRodden
@AndrewRodden 7 жыл бұрын
But in all honesty Scott, thanks for your lessons. ive become that much more of a bassist thanks to a lot of the information you share with us fellow bassists. so, thanks, a lot
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Andrew! Keep groovin man :)
@letmeooze
@letmeooze 7 жыл бұрын
Does the fender have older strings? Usually that makes your bass sound darker.
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
The strings on both basses are brand new Nolan - although they are different brands (I almost got it right, lol!)
@arnlmndza
@arnlmndza 7 жыл бұрын
hi Scott. thanks for the vid and all your lessons. on a neck to neck comp, shouldn't there be two same brand/type strings?
@martosbasslines1984
@martosbasslines1984 7 жыл бұрын
Nolan G I'd wondered the same thing. Definitely preferred the sound of the Moolon though, it's got some bite to it. I bought a 1980 aria pbass 18 mths ago. $700 AUD. It's got some serious growl.
@coZyLos
@coZyLos 7 жыл бұрын
Nolan G I have flatwound strings or whatever u call it
@jamessakimae9655
@jamessakimae9655 7 жыл бұрын
Nolan G I've had experience with that one muted string compared to the rest and I've found it wasa problem the string Everytime
@aligogusoglu4762
@aligogusoglu4762 7 жыл бұрын
that s great! You should do this a lot! Since most the followers are amateur musicians and do not have high budget, this kind of videos helps us a lot! Thanks again Scott!
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh thanks - great to know you enjoyed it, I enjoyed making it too!
@rquance1
@rquance1 7 жыл бұрын
A very big difference in the sound and I agree with your choice since you can always adjust the tone to match the Nate.
@peterbrooke7146
@peterbrooke7146 7 жыл бұрын
the nate mendell sounds so big and deep, love the red as well. The moollon sounds super punchy and and all around solid though, they are both great in my op.
@perryzimmerman9940
@perryzimmerman9940 7 жыл бұрын
I bought a Moollon bass because I had played one from my teacher here in LA and I liked the feel and vibe. My complaint is that for that price point it was lacking a bit. After a while I took it to my "guy" Mo here in LA who works with high end basses because the humidity finally did a number which was to be expected. The problem that the tech pointed out was for that price the frets needed to "be dressed" (smoothed and rounded), which he expected to be done during production so that it was smooth and easy to play. He also pointed out a number of flaws in the finish and said that it had not been treated long enough and it resulted in flaws. So of course it made me think that paying that much you would expect not to have those kinds of issue. It sounds great and has some great qualities but I wanted to put in my two cents worth. In fact, I'm selling it for a great price.
@JustinWilson01
@JustinWilson01 7 жыл бұрын
Today Im gonna compare a bass you can't afford and another bass you really really can't afford.
@WagnerFelix
@WagnerFelix 7 жыл бұрын
I like the "darker" vibe on red one. :D It's more "wooden", I guess...
@garywillacey9979
@garywillacey9979 7 жыл бұрын
Hi The problem I have with sound comparisons is that the strings on each guitar tends to be different, also one set tends to be older strings than the other. I wish that people who do comparisons would use fresh new strings of the same brand on both guitars, then a true sound comparison can be made. Anyway, beautiful guitars, beautiful playing, you're a top bloke! Thanks for the video. Bless.
@rolandedrummer9723
@rolandedrummer9723 7 жыл бұрын
I agree that thing sounds amazing. Sadly I'm more of a $200 MIM pawn shop bass.
@Tone_Jammer
@Tone_Jammer 7 жыл бұрын
Player makes the instrument and not the other way around... I used to be a real snob when it came to guitars now I just follow my gut. I'm learning to appreciate imperfections in instruments these days; they force you to play differently in order to adapt to a instruments short comings and it can really add to your individual style. Anyway... enjoy your new bass scott, sounds awesome!
@DavidRosario69
@DavidRosario69 7 жыл бұрын
The Moollon kills it. I wasn't a P-bass fan until I heard it.
@slimriddim4145
@slimriddim4145 8 ай бұрын
Same
@ColdToiletSeats
@ColdToiletSeats 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Fender I love that punchy/burpy sound
@dumaflotchy13
@dumaflotchy13 Ай бұрын
I am determined to get my hands on a “burpy “ sounding Fender P style or Stingray this year for $2400 or less .
@michibassdeva
@michibassdeva 7 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the Moollon has a Macassar Ebony fretboard, not rosewood, like the Fender.
@EricNeuls
@EricNeuls 7 жыл бұрын
and that none of their basses cost 900$....
@bdubya7646
@bdubya7646 7 жыл бұрын
That Moolon was made to wear a set of Labella medium gauge flats!
@stevesf28
@stevesf28 7 жыл бұрын
When I saw the 900 vs 2400 title, I thought of a few basses Scott might be comparing, but I immediately thought, "When is he going to check out a Moollon?" Lo and behold!
@metallutca
@metallutca 7 жыл бұрын
I think the Moollon has a Macassar ebony fingerboard, but tailored to sound like a pre-CBS Fender
@darthchop697
@darthchop697 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a regular 6-stringer, only really "messed around" with the bass... but recently I've really started taking it seriously and really enjoying it (mostly because I bought a brand new Epiphone Tobias IV, absolute beauty). And you've become my go-to guy for anything bass, from beginner stuff to the stuff I'm hearing you say now (about the resonance in the wood, and I agree). It's an honour and a privilege to have a bass pro as my tutor, available 24/7 (it's 1:44am right now. lol). Thank you for what you do. I'm certain I'm not the only one who appreciates your videos. Please keep it up. And P.S. I recently watched the movie Split with James McAvoy, and you guys are like twins. lol
@darthchop697
@darthchop697 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, and the Moollon sounds seriously tasty. It sounds more "alive". The Fender sounds a bit (dare I say) generic.
@bluesguy47
@bluesguy47 7 жыл бұрын
a proper comparison would be to make sure they both had the exact same set of new strings on them...
@xavierfally2650
@xavierfally2650 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott for that. It is nice to really hear the diffrences between those two one.
@jvin248
@jvin248 7 жыл бұрын
nice guitars! If you want to brighten up your SD-equiped guitar, put a 0.047uF cap in series with the pickup hot lead. You can also measure the volume pot kohms with a meter and find one in the same target but measures higher kohms (pots have a 20% range), or go up to the next common size 250k->500k->1Meg. I find you can always use the tone knob on a 'bright' guitar but it won't fix muddy. Great studio space.
@daynejosephh
@daynejosephh 7 жыл бұрын
I'd buy the Nate (cheaper one) because the differences in the expensive P aren't worth all that extra money in my opinion. Okay it may sound a bit better but hey, EQ on the amp exists for a reason. Just my thoughts, great video as usual!
@JazzOcasterCovers
@JazzOcasterCovers 7 жыл бұрын
I have owned and built many basses and never found body wood to affect badly the sound, it always seemed to reside in the neck wood, yet in most cases issues were in the hardware or bolt-on area. Basses have different vibes like a woman, which is why I ain't married! LOL! But my fav over-all go-to bass is a F Jazz I pieced together for about $300 with parts from eBay - go figure.
@JohnAldenDavis
@JohnAldenDavis 7 жыл бұрын
That BMW estate is the best bass player/family man car I have ever seen. #loveit
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Boom! ;)
@kroshotnickneosun1421
@kroshotnickneosun1421 7 жыл бұрын
When you cant afford either of these...
@EricNeuls
@EricNeuls 7 жыл бұрын
thats okay because the 900$ bass isnt actually 900$ its 2400-2700$
@grandmapussydestoryer6669
@grandmapussydestoryer6669 7 жыл бұрын
FatGreySquirrel oh good. i guess i better stick to my air guitar. thanks for the offer tho...
@Midemabass
@Midemabass 5 жыл бұрын
squier p vintage modified and MAYBE new p.u....
@JPuckett89
@JPuckett89 5 жыл бұрын
@@EricNeuls the nate mendel is 924 dollars on sweet water right now..not sure where you're getting 2400 dollars. The moolon is that price.
@haus05
@haus05 4 жыл бұрын
"when you cant afford either of these " tonnes of music shops offer layaway and or financing .. also getting a better job never hurt anyones pocket book either
@johnnyzmusic
@johnnyzmusic 7 жыл бұрын
How about any of the Bill Nash relic basses? I've heard great stuff about em
@perryzimmerman9940
@perryzimmerman9940 7 жыл бұрын
I've got a Nash 63 P Bass and I love it. I ordered a Moollon bass but ran across the Nash bass and bought it before the Moollon arrived. Now I play the Nash all the time and the Moolon is almost untouched ( I like the Moollon, don't get me wrong). The Nash immediately feels worn in and comfortable AND you don't have to worry about banging up or dinging the finish. I got two nicks on the Moollon because the Nitro finish is so sensitive. The Nash is definitely worth checking out and comes in under the Moollon price.
@williamsanders
@williamsanders 7 жыл бұрын
www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=47291 nuff said.
@tminus1019
@tminus1019 Ай бұрын
Just go to All Parts and assemble it yourself and put a Lollar PU in it. That's what Nash does. EXACT same thing for far less.
@robertepps2921
@robertepps2921 7 жыл бұрын
In reference to the two different basses. could it possibly be the size and age of the strings that effects the dynamics of the tones?
@Thiagnus
@Thiagnus 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I love Nate Mendel's sound, but your final argument was the same as mine: NM with some compressor can sound pretty similar to Moollon, but you'll never get the Moollon sound with NM. But both are awesome and beautiful!
@dumaflotchy13
@dumaflotchy13 Ай бұрын
Man I love this show …🙂 I would love to see a head to head comparison between a Fender P. and a Stingray in the same price range. Highlight where they excel & how they compare ???
@Basil43D
@Basil43D 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting point about the body resonance, my father bought a fretless bass a while back and claims that there's a span of 2-3 frets on one of the strings that feels 'dead.' Makes you appreciate the craftsmanship of instruments just that little bit more to know what goes into making them sound full with any frequency! Congrats for the killer new bass and thanks for the video!
@Francois15031967
@Francois15031967 7 жыл бұрын
$300 on a good squier and the remaining $2100 on lessons would be, for 99.9% of us, the best way to achieve something.
@jmongmon1100
@jmongmon1100 4 күн бұрын
Heck no. Train yourself on you tube.
@Francois15031967
@Francois15031967 4 күн бұрын
@@jmongmon1100 Lesson have one great advantage: they give you a deadline.
@jmongmon1100
@jmongmon1100 4 күн бұрын
@@Francois15031967 we can put deadlines on ourselves too if we have enough resolve.
@ll-sz9fl
@ll-sz9fl 7 жыл бұрын
What you like more, youtuber?? Jazz Bass or Precission Bass?? The Fender sound or the Moollon sound?? Personal opinion right down her!!
@CommanderSp00ky
@CommanderSp00ky 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Jazz Bass because i'm more of a metalhead, i really don't like precision basses but in this video i prefer the Moollon over the Fender
@IceNein763
@IceNein763 7 жыл бұрын
It's funny that you say that because my understanding is that a P-Bass is the preferred Bass for metal (if you were choosing from Jazz or P). I think most metal players nowadays use active basses. Play what makes you happy though, no reason you can't rock out on a J-Bass.
@CommanderSp00ky
@CommanderSp00ky 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, i didn't know that. I just looked up my favourite metal bassists and none of them were using P-Basses :DD
@CommanderSp00ky
@CommanderSp00ky 7 жыл бұрын
Idk, i just thought the Jazz one was more suitable for metal than Precision just because none of my favourite bassists are using Precision but you're right, the P-Bass sound sounds a bit heavier indeed, i still prefer the Jazz though, it just sounds better in general in my opinion
@wa1ufo
@wa1ufo 7 жыл бұрын
Either one is fine with me. The two basses that everyone copies sooner or later.
@GarrisonDigital
@GarrisonDigital 7 жыл бұрын
Scott, have you ever played the Marcus Miller Sire Bass?
@gebe9027
@gebe9027 7 жыл бұрын
I've the same question... there's a bit of a hype around Sire
@GarrisonDigital
@GarrisonDigital 7 жыл бұрын
I have inexpensive basses under $400, Squire PBass, SX Fretless Jazz, Fender Blacktop Jazz. All serve me well. I back many different artists from Country, Rock, Reggie, Folk, Standard Jazz, Smooth Jazz, and Contemporary Worship music. I love playing all kinds of music. I also play guitar, which is really my main instrument, I got more gigs playing bass (go figure). I have joined a few FB groups to follow the responses on the Sire Bass. Most notably what modifications are necessary if any and if people are disappointed in their purchase. I can honestly say I don't hear much bad and very rarely do I see used ones for sale. If I do they are almost at full price. I played the M3 $299 model not plugged in and fit and finish was nice and it sounded pretty good with good sustain. Just as Scott demonstrates in the video. Unfortunately I wasn't able to plug into amp at the time. I'm thinking about buying three Sires. Just can't make up my mind on colors. Hahahahaha!
@Soft_as_chalk
@Soft_as_chalk 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Marcus Miller V7 jazz bass (5 strings) and a Lakland Skyline Duck Dunn Signature, also played a lot of american Fenders (Deluxe, Custom Shop, etc). The Lakland is lighter and more confortable, it's easier to adjust and stuff, but the Marcus Miller has an ASTONISHING sound and the finish is very nice. Ridiculous quality for that money, really. Buy a dozen.
@GarrisonDigital
@GarrisonDigital 7 жыл бұрын
Time to buy one in every color to go with wardrobe. Thanks Borja!
@jacksonwrightmusic6805
@jacksonwrightmusic6805 7 жыл бұрын
I've got a Sire V7 and looove it. If you don't want to spend over $1000 on a nice jazz the Sire has got it all and more. The passive tones on it are even enough for me but the preamp is ridiculous and provides so much versatility.
@brewer9565
@brewer9565 7 жыл бұрын
The Moollon resonates much more fully and "piano-like" indeed compared to the Fender Nate, which is not to say that Moollon is superior to Fender. The Nate is one of Fender's lower end import models made in Mexico. Excellent bass for that price point but no comparison to the specs of the Moollon. I have a Fender '63 P-bass vintage reissue with custom vintage split single-coil pickup wound in the same spec from that era and it resonates much the same as you describe the Moollon. Congratulations on your new Moollon - it is a beautiful instrument! SBL has grown remarkably over the past several years and it is indeed an excellent source for all things bass - the courses are awesome. Continued success - well deserved.
@carstuff9422
@carstuff9422 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome new studio. We should all make a bet about how many times your going to crack your head on those beams!! haha! I would have loved to hear your Fender Custom Relic thrown into the mix. How do you find that bass compares to the other two?
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Great idea... I've actually just been getting it set up and I'm picking it up in the next few days - I'll make a vid on it when I get it back :)
@cta.k.a.barrychan2460
@cta.k.a.barrychan2460 7 жыл бұрын
*** A good tip for Opening a package box: Press the box to you chest with the tape going forward in front of you. Put both hands around the box with hands on either side of where the tape ends. Then take you hands and press the box in and you'll see the tape separate from the box. Just pull the tape off and the box should still be in good condition. NOW I should mention this is better with lighter, a little more hollower boxes like amazing packages and boxes of food/snacks. I haven't tried it on large packages like guitars & cases. But still, you should try it.
@suckitdipwad250
@suckitdipwad250 6 жыл бұрын
I would've liked to see a Moollon v. an actual P-Bass comparo. The Nate has a non-Fender pickup (and a "B" neck, btw, meaning it's between a Jazz and traditional P in width and feel) and non-Fender bridge. Get a regular ol' run-of-the-mill, nitro finish, USA made P-Bass that's all Fender, put on the same strings as you have on the Moollon, THEN give us a comparo. BTW, if you can't find a nitro finish USA P-Bass used for ~$900 USD, then go for a Fender Road Worn 50s Precision Bass. They're nitro finished, but made in Mexico with a bunch of USA parts, on the old equipment Fender used to use in Corona, CA back in the day. In other words, they're still the real deal. Still, the Moollon was clearly awesome here! Glad you got it back (I saw the other video).
@slasher640
@slasher640 7 жыл бұрын
am I the only one that feels like Scott is my friend since a long long time ago ?
@charlie2namon
@charlie2namon 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott. I think both basses have their place, but I agree with your comment about darkening a twangy tone. I love to do that myself. I'm curios though, how the basses would sound, if they both had a new set of the same strings. The red bass sounds like it has an old set on it, to my ears.
@MMJAZZ1977
@MMJAZZ1977 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review Scott :) I personally have an Nate Mendel and Swap pickups for a more vintage sound with Seymour Duncan SB1. Still hard to compare instruments with different hardware, strings brand age etc...But in the end is the feel and the vibes that counts...
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - feel and vibe is EVERYTHING! :)
@sungjin1989
@sungjin1989 7 жыл бұрын
New bass starts 2:31
@gimmeagig
@gimmeagig 7 жыл бұрын
The Moulan is it for me too. No question.
@SpaceRiderOmega
@SpaceRiderOmega 7 жыл бұрын
I'd say the Fender sounds better even with the older set of strings on it.
@fernandoarchila5218
@fernandoarchila5218 7 жыл бұрын
so where was the comparison of the $900 vs $2400?
@Naprauss
@Naprauss 7 жыл бұрын
The Moollon sounds brighter to me. I supossed that the strings of the 900$ P bass are older too. Both basses are fine
@MangaMarjan
@MangaMarjan 7 жыл бұрын
Did the same in my local music store last tuesday. I tried out a squier pj and fender 50s preci
@guitaristforfunn
@guitaristforfunn 7 жыл бұрын
*grabs squire bass.... resonates perfectly ;)*
@Besupan
@Besupan 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 1980 Electra and it has the best sound of all my basses. The electronics help give it a wide variety of sounds for any genera.
@Balto443
@Balto443 7 жыл бұрын
YES finally got a current vid...love u bro...since I've found ur vids I've really started fixing my foundation. ..too bad I can't afford the school
@devinebass
@devinebass 7 жыл бұрын
Keep groovin' J, thanks for the support! :)
@duncanmathers76
@duncanmathers76 7 жыл бұрын
I always loved the Nate, but you can really hear the difference in quality with the Moollon. Stunning bass.
@kiltworm
@kiltworm 7 жыл бұрын
It's so funny how your face totally changes when you start playing Funk. It's a mix between bliss and pain.
@HabAnagarek
@HabAnagarek 7 жыл бұрын
Love the English semi-detached houses! And the brick and wood in the studio! Oh my God. Anyway, having to choose between one bass and another that is more than 2x the price...
@Padraigcoelfir
@Padraigcoelfir 7 жыл бұрын
I have been arguing about tone wood with many amateur lately. Obviously on a bass it has a whole lot of influence, on guitar too but high pitch notes vibrations seems to sound anyways. Low tones however relies on the neck to propagate the vibration to the body. Poplar has that nice warm fat tone, very responsive. I would like to make a cherry wood bass in a near future. It's said to have a nice ton, like an acoustic bass. I will carve a bass and a guitar in a near future.
@mjtsirhc
@mjtsirhc 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, the Moollon's fingerboard isn't rosewood but Macassar ebony. Moollon only uses ebony for their fingerboards.
@NotThatOneThisOne
@NotThatOneThisOne 7 жыл бұрын
Moollon completely. Both are lovely, but the Moollon has such a full sound. I always think you get a P because you want to own the bass end of a track, and the Moollon sounds like it would do that. If you wanted to punch through layers of keyboards etc, I may choose the NM, but...nan...I'd pick the Moollon.
@hancyber
@hancyber 7 жыл бұрын
Wow Prof X Men playing superb Bass Lines.
@Prof_Potato
@Prof_Potato 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I love a phat and thick P bass neck. I feel like I have more space to move and maneuver and mute and it just feels so nice to hold. Just came off of a Squire aPJ into a Roger Waters Fender P with an OG P neck and SD Quarter Pounders - sooo nice. A bit hot for my liking, but I’m gonna butter it out with flats
@TMCG3
@TMCG3 7 жыл бұрын
Tbh I prefer the sound of the fender
@tikabass
@tikabass 6 жыл бұрын
I have 4 basses. a used US P-bass that cost me 800 euros. A Yamaha RBX 300 that cost me $300 (I've had it for 20 years), an 5 string Infinity (60 euros + 1 euro for used Ibanez pickups, the stock ones were terrible) and a 5 euros fretless something _and_ other (literally! An Aria Pro II neck stuck onto a nondescript body I had to carve for fit) They all play great.
@olgoat52
@olgoat52 7 жыл бұрын
Cool color too. I was checking out their site and don't even see that color in the samples. Maybe it is your lighting. Sounds "Fantastic" (said in a Scott voice.) :)
@misterrmjdesigns7197
@misterrmjdesigns7197 7 жыл бұрын
from the cam mic ,I hear brighter, maybe newer strings though.WOnder what maple fret board would sound like
@matthewd6306
@matthewd6306 7 жыл бұрын
Scott you should pick up a Warwick bass. They sound killer and are top notch. Either a Corvette or a Streamer with a bubinga body.
@DigBipper188
@DigBipper188 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott... you should give the Yamaha BB line a shot if you get the chance... the tone's somewhat similar to a P-bass with a bridge pickup but with a bunch of extra resonance.
@Welcome_To_Life
@Welcome_To_Life 7 жыл бұрын
that grey bass sounds fantastic
@MThrow
@MThrow 7 жыл бұрын
I owned a '68 P bass I bought when I was 20, back in the early '80's. Unfortunately it was stolen out of a club when we were on break, and yet NO ONE saw who stole it.
@rmccain99
@rmccain99 7 жыл бұрын
That dead spot has happend to me before. The neck pocket was note finished correctly.
@williamrgrant
@williamrgrant 7 жыл бұрын
Loving the new vlog style Scott!
@joseluisorellano69
@joseluisorellano69 7 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for not editing the tumble!!!!
@mbberry135
@mbberry135 7 жыл бұрын
How about a 4 string vs 5 string shoot out? American Fender basses (Jazz and Precision) come in both 4 and 5 strings. I was wondering if you could do a shoot out between am American Elite vs itself and American Pro vs itself?
@bassdroppointsource
@bassdroppointsource 7 жыл бұрын
The Nate Mendel has a distinct mid-focus to its sound. I'd wonder how it would do in a band context. It may be a situation where bright rounds on the Mendel and flats on the Moolon would get them closer to each other or even just sound good, irrespective of comparisons.
@danadane2501
@danadane2501 2 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose I guess I'd take the Moollon. I could sell get a Mendel P Bass and have a lot of money left over the ultimate rig.
@alvarovallejos8465
@alvarovallejos8465 7 жыл бұрын
I also prefer the sound of the more expensive bass but I wonder how much of a difference there would be if you swapped the quarter pounders for a proper vintage style pickup like the spb-1
@alexanderlyon
@alexanderlyon 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know where the Nate Mendel P Bass is manufactured? Made in USA or somewhere else? I'm trying to gauge the relative quality of the build.
@TohaMarko
@TohaMarko 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, Scott, how about compare you new Moollon with your new RocknRoll Relics? Same price range and so beautiful basses should be competitive! Anyway thanks for so great review!
@ProgRock_
@ProgRock_ 7 жыл бұрын
Ive noticed on my Fender Mexican Jazz bass the 5th fret on the G string goes dead very quickly and when distortion is on pretty full on its turns into a harmonic.
@EricNeuls
@EricNeuls 7 жыл бұрын
So do you have to contact them directly to order a bass? since i live in america i dont think have a dealer here
@danielbartleson5746
@danielbartleson5746 7 жыл бұрын
I love them both.
@tdmddo
@tdmddo 7 жыл бұрын
The new one sounds more modern and the Nate Mendel sounds more like oldschool bassesfrom 50's and 60's - just put on flats and you get closer to upright bass sound :)
@bramwelbedacht2568
@bramwelbedacht2568 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Scott. Especially cuz I'm looking for a new P-bass myself. Also got here by your instagram vlogs. Keep on going! Cheers.
@PGeorge61
@PGeorge61 7 жыл бұрын
There are few things better than opening the box to a new bass!!
@ibzane1
@ibzane1 7 жыл бұрын
Same here. I have short, stumpy fingers so the thinner neck basses are easier for me to play.. I Really like the fatter tone of a precision, and the punchiness of a Jazz. (I do own a mid 80's MIM Fender Jazz) so I am wanting to build a P/J bass... would you show us in a later video the sound difference between the P, J and the P/J and explain the differences... From reading thus far I believe a P/J has a Precision body, with a Jazz neck and an added Jazz bass bridge pickup.. Could you maybe show us the physical and the tonal differences before I dump money into one.... I am planning to build one of my own... Thanks..
@Mathcartney
@Mathcartney 7 жыл бұрын
The bridge makes a great part in the tone. Great Bass btw
@duncan-rmi
@duncan-rmi 7 жыл бұрын
both unmistakably precisions, but utterly different. would you consider swapping the necks over to see where the tone mostly resides?
@yortukfenstruk
@yortukfenstruk 7 жыл бұрын
The Moollon takes it for sure, but they both have their uses. The Nate might be right in a thick mix. However, neither instrument is as beautiful as your daughter. Congratulations!
@ZeroMod
@ZeroMod 7 жыл бұрын
Different? For sure...Better" That is harder to say. I agree with Scott on the edgier smoother "piano like" tone of the Moolon. But the Fender has a bark to it doing the funk moves that I like (but then that's why I ended up with 13 basses!) Be willing to wager strings and pickups account for a LOT of the differences.
@starkcd
@starkcd 7 жыл бұрын
Besides strings and pickups, what else is there to affect the sound? (Please, please, please don't say the wood.)
@ZeroMod
@ZeroMod 7 жыл бұрын
It is a question that vexes ALL players! And arguments rage in forums about this very topic. I can only offer my views as a guy who has done custom shop work and been playing since the early 70s - In order of magnitude ? Pickups (and electronics if any) - Strings - Neck wood (and fingerboard) - Frets - Bridge - Body Wood - Finish - - - The ones after Bridge I consider to be incredibly small effect if any, but no doubt somebody will jump in to rewrite this list ! ! ! I never thought the neck and frets made made much difference until I changed out neck on my 1980 ESP Jazz bass (DiMarzio Ultra Jazz pickups and Badass II bridge) with a USACustom Guitars quartersawn graphite reinforced Jazz neck with a Pau Ferro fingerboard and stainless frets..... The amount of high end bite that came out of the bass was insane! (that being with same pickups bridge body strings hardware) I believe most of that was the stainless frets. Sent the neck back and got one NOT quartersawn and nickel silver frets - was pretty much like the original but with tighter bottom (graphite reinforcement?) There is an interplay of factors at work. Not simple. I recently did experiments on headstock resonance with a cheap Mighty Mite Jazz neck that proved (to my satisfaction) that "dead note" issues may have a lot to do with the stiffness of the headstock rather than the mass of the headstock as is generally accepted. Phil Kubicki of Kubicki Bass and Fender Pro Shop fame was a pioneer in sorting this stuff out - Go check out Kubick ExFactor basses! I had one, amazing stuff. His techniques to "solve " issues with standard Fender Bass design led to a pretty special bass.
@brettmarlar4154
@brettmarlar4154 7 жыл бұрын
When did you last change the strings on the Nate Mandel? The Moolon, does seem to have newer strings on her, which will make it brighter. Of course you know that, but it may have "coloured" (for lack of a better term) the comparison a bit.
@MarcosBanus
@MarcosBanus 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, great comparison! I'm new into this bass guitar thing, I've been playing guitar since the day I born basicly, but recently I got into bass and I'm loving it. I have a question regarding 12'' speakers... Can a 12'' speaker on a nice cabinet, have a great volume output for a small gig... a small venue with 100 to 150 people.
@pcartisan2721
@pcartisan2721 7 жыл бұрын
I bought a GK Neo 2-12 cab (with a MB Fusion 800) and it gets pretty loud. I think it's rated at about 400 watts, so it matches the 8ohm output of the head. Not my first choice, but I wanted a cab that was light weight for my back (it's only about 50lbs) and one that was loud enough for small gigs. I would have preferred something Ampeg, but ended up with what suits me. One KEY thing is - your drummer MUST know how to control his/her volume! Just pounding hard on drums does not make you a good drummer - that only puts all of the band members at odds with each other. My first band (eons ago) was too loud - I was getting drowned out with my little 150 watt, 1-15" Peavey Combo amp. I hope you find what suits you well and stay in the shed. P.S. The Talkbass.com forum taught me a lot.
@MarcosBanus
@MarcosBanus 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Scheitlin thanks a lot for the feedback... I tryed a tc electronic 250w head on a 2x10 and did very well, actually it sounded huge, really enjoyed that kit, but I was wondering if a single 12 speaker could handle the job... The cab should be way lighter I guess..
@pcartisan2721
@pcartisan2721 7 жыл бұрын
As I have read on the TalkBass forum over an over, the output of a single speaker will work, BUT - it all depends on so many things - What music is being played, how loud the drummer & other musicians are and the room itself. If it's a closed bar sound bounces and echos. If it's outside, sound keeps going. I have looked into the Aguilar 1x12's and found that there are different versions. The more expensive ones have better specs - to get louder. But, it's still a single 1x12 and it depends on your band. In the end, it's all about Moving Air. The more speaker area, the more air moved. If you get a good 12" speaker, you can always add another one later; just make sure you know how the wattage of your amp head will match up to it/them.
@handgunner1911
@handgunner1911 7 жыл бұрын
i have a 62 precision and that bass sounds pretty darn similar totally different but i like both of them
@silas0403
@silas0403 7 жыл бұрын
why would you want the body to resonate? That would mean that the string loses a lot of energy very quickly. With electric guitars/basses you dont want them to resonate at all.
@brianbaker5640
@brianbaker5640 7 жыл бұрын
Also are you using standard gauges on those P's? 105 -45.... they sound thinner. But that Moolan is so even it's amazing. wow.
@tminus1019
@tminus1019 Ай бұрын
different wood combos and different pickup winds. NM has overwound Seymor Duncan Quarter Pounders. Huge difference.
@denniselm4058
@denniselm4058 7 жыл бұрын
I really dig the way those basses sound that don't have the tuners on the headstock. damn what are those called again? they aren't even made of wood I think theyre composite or graphite or something. they were big in the 80s. they have a thick ass sound.oh yeah Steinburgh basstite
@jaymichael4604
@jaymichael4604 2 жыл бұрын
Seems a pup swap out on the Mendel would create a sound more like the Moolon.
@frankavity
@frankavity 7 жыл бұрын
Just a thought on this one-if Fender have produced a signatory model, it means that they´ve tailored the bass to that individuals tastes. This might explain why the Fender has these darker tones and cant "match" the width of the Moullon (?), whereas if you chose a standard Precision, you might have a like for like comparison which you could more fairly compare. Anyway, I always wonder why these other manufacturers just copy the Fender flagship models, why cant they come up with something else themselves? Just my thoughts...didnt cost a penny
@ilovetobanghard
@ilovetobanghard 7 жыл бұрын
The Mike Dirnt P-Bass is actually really great sounding and versatile.
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