A Bloody War with the Creek Indians Begins, The Battle of Burnt Corn Creek, Alabama, 1813 (ep. 1)

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Unworthy History

10 ай бұрын

In this video we read from "The Creek War of 1813 and 1814," by Henry S. Halbert and Timothy S. Ball, published all the way back in 1895.
The Creeks allied with the British in the war of 1812 to exterminate the southern Alabama settlers. The Choctaw tribe sided with the Americans.
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@deadhorse1391
@deadhorse1391 10 ай бұрын
Another great video! What many people today don’t know is that the phrase “ if the creek doesn’t rise” isn’t about a flooding stream but about an Creek Indian uprising Liked hearing about the double barrel shotgun, I have beautiful Manton English double barrel flint shotgun from this time period. Never shot any Indians with it( lots of ducks though 😉) but I can see it’s advantages
@snakejumper3277
@snakejumper3277 8 ай бұрын
Reputed to be a quote from Benjamin Hawkins saying he'd be available to travel "if the Creek don't rise." The word 'don't' is used since the subject is plural. Sounds like poor grammer till you know that.
@lesabooth5243
@lesabooth5243 5 ай бұрын
Disgusting
@cassandraharper3818
@cassandraharper3818 3 ай бұрын
Clarke County here. My 5th great grandfather was Col. James Caller, I remember writing a book report on him and the Battle of Burnt Corn in elementary school.
@chrisanderson5317
@chrisanderson5317 10 ай бұрын
Love these early American narrations Mr. Worthy. They may be unworthy of the History Channel, but yours are history worthy of learning.
@charliehay1520
@charliehay1520 10 ай бұрын
I prefer this channel 100 to 1 over the "history " channel!
@TheBlindGuitarSlinger
@TheBlindGuitarSlinger 4 ай бұрын
This is real interesting to me because I grew up in those woods, and am part Creek.
@lambastepirate
@lambastepirate 10 ай бұрын
Great bit of history thanks.
@markpalmer6760
@markpalmer6760 10 ай бұрын
Another fascinating story, enjoyed.
@bc2578
@bc2578 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thanks again for the videos.
@guymcmullan9297
@guymcmullan9297 10 ай бұрын
Fine work 🐓☠️ thank you for this 🚬🗡️🐓
@Charlie.a
@Charlie.a 10 ай бұрын
Another amazing episode great work Thank you.
@Khatoon170
@Khatoon170 10 ай бұрын
How are you doing sir thank you for wonderful cultural documentary channel . I gathered main information about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s battle of burn corn , also known as battle of burnt corn , was encounter between USA armed forces and creek Indians that took place in year 1813 in present day southern Alabama was part of creek war . Red stick warriors defeated Mississippi Territory militiamen. Reason of the battle because learning party of hostile red stick creek Indians had gathered military supplies from nearby Pensacola American decided to preemptively attack Indians at burnt corn creek .
@brassteeth3355
@brassteeth3355 10 ай бұрын
My two sons are Creeks (muscogee). We love hearing about the history. Choosing the crown was a bit of a mistake in the end.
@TmCT1mco21
@TmCT1mco21 9 ай бұрын
Nah it wasn't they where in the wrong for trespassing and hurting mvskoke ppl...
@vepr1332
@vepr1332 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating story. Well done !
@thewanderersguide4568
@thewanderersguide4568 10 ай бұрын
Most excellent.
@Montanasummerfun
@Montanasummerfun Ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@johndaugherty4127
@johndaugherty4127 10 ай бұрын
Great work. North Georgia and North Alabama is a very good climate.
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 22 күн бұрын
It is seriously humid. I lived in Tennessee (as a child and had to return 10 years ago), I prefer Southern Nevada in the Summer over the thick moisture here. Good for Cotton and Tomatoes, but not so much for this Irish Girl. 😉
@johndaugherty4127
@johndaugherty4127 22 күн бұрын
@@bethbartlett5692 or an Irish boy! I live in Kentucky and the summers are as hot as Georgia and the winters as cold as Ohio or Michigan. But the Spring and Fall are the best anywhere.
@brandon7482
@brandon7482 9 ай бұрын
My 6X great grandfather, Chief William McIntosh was leader of the “white sticks” the friendly faction of the Creeks. Sadly he was murdered by the red sticks in front of his family.
@wadagascar
@wadagascar 8 ай бұрын
McIntosh knowingly committed treason by signing away Creek land to enrich himself in the Treaty of Indian Springs. It was illegal for him to sign the treaty, and 49 of the other 50 signatories refused to sign, but the federal government at the time commonly exploited more compliant Chiefs of native nations to sell land on behalf of their entire nation. According to Creek law, he was executed. The Treaty of Indian Springs led to a lot of his own people being displaced, and impoverished refugees relocated on their own land...and eventually all Creeks (regardless of their loyalties--Red Stick or White) were forcibly relocated to "Indian Territory" (Oklahoma). There's a lot of necessary context that is lacking in describing McIntosh as "murdered by the Red Sticks".
@jenniferhoffman9260
@jenniferhoffman9260 5 ай бұрын
We used to visit Indian springs a lot when I was younger. I loved that place.
@brandon7482
@brandon7482 4 ай бұрын
@@jenniferhoffman9260 I’ve wanted to go there for a while!
@Sunavagun341
@Sunavagun341 2 ай бұрын
@@wadagascaridk who you are but Shonabish for helping explain the reality. Yes we were exploited by our own “white raised” relatives and they’ve constantly been used as a proxy to establish imminent domain type of law. Alexander Mcgilvey was one of the first used to displace us in the eyes of the world. The treaty of New York was illegally insider/ill willed driven and ratified today. Despite Mcgilvey being of half white Christian heritages at the time where his father was Scottish adept in law education who later was given military ranking with a bonus pay in conclusion to the treaty being done
@laneterry3030
@laneterry3030 9 сағат бұрын
I think he was murder because of jealosey because after they killed them William Hawkins too. They basiclly make the same deal ,with the same people​.@@wadagascar
@cowboykelly6590
@cowboykelly6590 6 ай бұрын
Unworthy History is Worthy. 🤠🖖♨️
@Verityization
@Verityization 10 ай бұрын
Mobile is pronounced "Mow - beel." Great story!
@bethbartlett5692
@bethbartlett5692 22 күн бұрын
As in Alabama, and the area is referred to as "L.A.", "Lower Alabama". 😉 I like Alabama and Georgia, way more History than Mainstream will admit. I am convinced the Mayans were in Georgia, the Terrace Farming and for landscaping is observable. Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian Tennessee USA PS: I wonder why they didn't spell Mobile - Mobeale? It's said to have been named for the Maubilla Native Americans that originally lived there. The word Mobile is "able to move" as in with Transit. I'm not certain that mobile was a word back in the early 1700's. Mobeale would be a more effective spelling, based on the pronunciation. (Maybe one day they will opt to change it.)
@Verityization
@Verityization 22 күн бұрын
@bethbartlett5692 I used to live in Huntsville, and remember the Alabama state history class I took as a freshman in high school. You are no doubt right about the Mayans, because DNA research has shown that ancient Native Americans migrated as much up from South and Central America as from the far northern land bridge. And, that could explain structures like the Cahokia Mounds in Illinois.
@imout671
@imout671 10 ай бұрын
Commander sam dale has an interesting history. Dale county Alabama is named after him.
@charlesbyrd6055
@charlesbyrd6055 10 ай бұрын
Mow Beel I love ya anyhow!
@user-me8fp2fl9c
@user-me8fp2fl9c 4 ай бұрын
Squabbling with the scalawags at the gulf for 200 years...
@JohnMarston165
@JohnMarston165 5 ай бұрын
Do a story about how Hal's Lake got it's name. That is really interesting too!
@judithcampbell1705
@judithcampbell1705 10 ай бұрын
Excellent history of the white man and the Indians. The Creek. Thank you for a great history lesson!
@alphapred
@alphapred 6 ай бұрын
David Tate.....Wow.....Just wow. Thank you for connecting a dot.
@MicoRed.
@MicoRed. 9 ай бұрын
Great story 😂 us Lower Creeks has a different view on it though! Truth are stranger than fiction
@SharonLaBolle
@SharonLaBolle 7 ай бұрын
LoL! Dude, they said you won!
@nadisfenley1080
@nadisfenley1080 10 ай бұрын
I have Creek blood Heritage. VERY PROUD
@maryforbus1918
@maryforbus1918 10 ай бұрын
Better get registered. Indian blood doesn’t always show on blood DNA.
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
And being proud of white heritage is considered the same as being a white supremacist.
@diodio9494
@diodio9494 3 ай бұрын
Me too 😊
@dryhumor7302
@dryhumor7302 9 ай бұрын
Mobile Bay. Moh-Beel.
@chieftuskaloosa7346
@chieftuskaloosa7346 13 күн бұрын
My 4×grandfather is mekko Tuscaloosa
@susanvinson2667
@susanvinson2667 10 ай бұрын
It’s pronounced Mo-beel. Not like the oil company.
@Verityization
@Verityization 10 ай бұрын
Haha! I wrote a comment about his mispronouncing Mobile, too. I lived in Alabama, and took Alabama history in school.
@susanvinson2667
@susanvinson2667 10 ай бұрын
@@Verityization I live there and he got a couple of things about present day Alabama wrong. The pronunciation was just grating though.
@hughjaass3787
@hughjaass3787 10 ай бұрын
Not bad for a White Dude. I am Creek, Upper Creek, and my family lived around Coosa River during this time.
@charlesbyrd6055
@charlesbyrd6055 10 ай бұрын
Well in todays world Indians are treated as noble pastoral folk living peaceably and whites as evil by people who detest all western civilization up to last two seconds So you can get plenty of that instead of “not bad for a white guy”
@maryforbus1918
@maryforbus1918 10 ай бұрын
Better get registered. DNA doesn’t always show on DNA for some reason.
@sherylwilson865
@sherylwilson865 23 күн бұрын
​@@maryforbus1918Because they don't have enough Indigenous people DNA testing to build the database for indigenous people with.
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw 10 ай бұрын
The real story is who burnt enough corn to have a creek named after the incident.
@speakupriseup4549
@speakupriseup4549 10 ай бұрын
Kernel Pop, the inventor of Pop corn
@bryonhogg485
@bryonhogg485 10 ай бұрын
Corn Pop - Bidens arch nemesis . . .
@maryforbus1918
@maryforbus1918 10 ай бұрын
Is this suppose to be funny ?
@bch5513
@bch5513 9 ай бұрын
It's probably more related to the color of the water
@charlesbelser7249
@charlesbelser7249 9 ай бұрын
You have the internet . The information is easily obtainable although there are several different versions.
@eagleman1542
@eagleman1542 10 ай бұрын
As if the States weren't occupied enough with fighting/defeating the British (again).
@maryinsentani6801
@maryinsentani6801 10 ай бұрын
Please. Mo-beal. Thank you.
@TmCT1mco21
@TmCT1mco21 9 ай бұрын
Mvskoke victory
@user-xo5lt9ox5q
@user-xo5lt9ox5q 9 ай бұрын
Remember his-story I don't believe one sided information where's my people's accounts of what happened
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
Make 🛑 work and do ?
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
🛑 curse and talk "Need Break"
@kevinhatchett2021
@kevinhatchett2021 10 ай бұрын
If its spelled Flournoy, it's probably pronounced floor, but it's a name..
@redraven1410
@redraven1410 7 ай бұрын
Yes, pronounced FLOOR-noy. Not Flour-noi
@kieronbevan2949
@kieronbevan2949 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be great to be immortal and go out there and explore and fight and travel through a continents history. I'd concentrate first on Britain and then all the threads out from there. Keep me busy for 5000 years
@bold810
@bold810 7 ай бұрын
You thought the Creeks were bad? Do you? It was nothing like Rivers, mister. Was NUTTIN' lak the sleeves, brussels.
@user-nf6zs4sw7y
@user-nf6zs4sw7y 5 ай бұрын
Mo-Beel
@user-ld1jb2fy8p
@user-ld1jb2fy8p 3 ай бұрын
Its a great video and im learning however can you Slow down, your words are going so fast, please. :)
@user-ld1jb2fy8p
@user-ld1jb2fy8p 3 ай бұрын
Nevermind, I slow it down on my video.
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
🌽 Corn to Pineapple 🍍
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
Weathering Gruesome
@theresakennedy7339
@theresakennedy7339 13 күн бұрын
You couldn’t burn corn. You could burn the village but not corn. It was used to make alcohol.
@bch5513
@bch5513 9 ай бұрын
The fort Mims massacre was result of pure incompetence.
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like it was the result of a bunch of people wanting to massacre another people.
@abttreefitty
@abttreefitty Ай бұрын
It's pronounced "mobeel", not like "mobile phone"
@aimeecowan1105
@aimeecowan1105 3 ай бұрын
The popular lie that Indians were peaceful, innoent, welcoming people needs to be put to rest. Thank you.
@michaelendres6553
@michaelendres6553 10 ай бұрын
I love my mvskoke and Seminole people's mvto to Jesus Christ and my ancestors
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
Aruing Red Skins and Bracelets for Men
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
India Blanco
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
No See Umm Hate Interviews
@KitaBooBear
@KitaBooBear 4 ай бұрын
Rojo India
@kenmartin9106
@kenmartin9106 10 ай бұрын
One says mo- beel another says mo- beal you need to get together and figure what is correct
@jimmyraythomason1
@jimmyraythomason1 10 ай бұрын
There is only one pronunciation and that is 'Mobeel".
@kenmartin9106
@kenmartin9106 10 ай бұрын
@@jimmyraythomason1 someone else apparently from Mobile spelled it mo- beal it was a great history lesson.
@maryforbus1918
@maryforbus1918 10 ай бұрын
@@kenmartin9106those are pronounced the same.
@bstrhn84
@bstrhn84 9 ай бұрын
It’s like two dude names combined “Moe” and “Bill”. I’ve been here 48 years.
@chieftuskaloosa7346
@chieftuskaloosa7346 12 күн бұрын
When the settlers got there they saw black people even the conquistadors were black let's not ova look that
@peterellis6862
@peterellis6862 10 ай бұрын
Every time I listen to these stories I think about the illegal immigration of economic migrants into Europe and the inevitable changes they are going to bring to the lifestyle and culture of existing Europeans, just like the Settlers did to the Indians.
@SharonLaBolle
@SharonLaBolle 7 ай бұрын
Your Ellis name comes from Elishah, grandson of Noah. So you did a bit of traveling yourself! The Welsh were called the "Walesa", which derives from that.
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
There’s a difference between families with women and children building settlements where there are no settlements, and what we have today: where huge groups of mostly military age men are invading and attacking civilians with the assistance of armed militant cartels.
@lylelookingbill6606
@lylelookingbill6606 5 ай бұрын
It is apparent that you are of European descent, because in your 'story telling' you never once state that these poor white settlers were/had encroached upon lands that were clearly "Indian Land." They were not settlers they were trespassers. The whites were never victims of Indians, the Indians were the victims of white incursion. Your bias is typical of most "White History."
@Quincy_Morris
@Quincy_Morris 4 ай бұрын
Imagine attacking the presentation of facts as being wrong because the person saying them is white. Thats racist. If you build a settlement where there is no settlement then you are a settler. And even in modern law there is what is called “squatters rights” where if you make your home somewhere long enough it becomes your land legally. Basically, even today you can’t retain title to land that you don't actively possess. and if you genocide people because they are living on your land then YOU are in the wrong.
@gullybull5568
@gullybull5568 10 ай бұрын
Israel.behind.englands.strings😮
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