A boneheaded move by Apple on this product 🤨🤦‍♂️ (Enjoy watching me fail)

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There are a half dozen reasons for me to not post this video - OMG :-) Thanks for watching!
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00:00 Intro
01:18 So dumb
02:20 It gets worse
06:28 Remove chip
09:57 Programming
16:23 It gets worse again
18:15 Learning to count
20:40 Write test
22:16 Donor
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@stevencharette7918 2 жыл бұрын

you for surfe have my respect for you're honesty and being a human other channels would have NEVER uploaded their failure(s) or admit they messed something up

@Mr_Joseph979 2 жыл бұрын

Actually Louis Rossman and Alex of Northridge fix both upload their repair failures. I appreciate that because then I know what NOT to do. I'm subbing to this channel based on his honesty and self-deprication

@robba1234 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, great to see mistakes as we have all done them, and hopefully learned from them(both yours and our own)

@metroid031993 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason, as far as I can tell, you initially did count right and it is 14 over for VDD IO. Your only problem in that configuration was the clock line. After moving everything over one, it would have never worked, but I don't *think* there's any damage on your end. After that, when moving over your lines, you moved over ground and clock onto the ip7 data and clock lines. Tbh, I don't blame you on that one, they did a bad job labeling that board. Assuming there's any hope for this thing since it still won't take charging current, that logic eeprom is probably still fine and readable, I'd give it one more shot with all of that in mind

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man - I'm gonna be going back after that eeprom once more after reading this. It's still laying here with the wires frayed off of it.

@BillCarrIpswich 2 жыл бұрын

@@ststele I've got the JC ID V1S and it is insanely unreliable when it comes to backing up logic eeproms. The screen ones are fine, but iphone 6, 7, 8 and XS eeproms all took lots of messing about to get them to read. No mistakes on my part, no bad soldering, the tool is just extremely unreliable. It even detected the iPhone 8+ logic eeprom as a screen. Still backed up and wrote OK, after lots of fiddling. Try yours again, it'll probably work in the end, and you won't know what you did differently!

@metroid031993 2 жыл бұрын

@@ststele good luck, hope it ends up working :)

@dragosviorelpavel6936 2 жыл бұрын

@@ststele waiting for next video 😁

@mysticknight9711 4 ай бұрын

I saw the same thing -- watching some of your 1yr old videos @@ststele

@toddk968 2 жыл бұрын

Failures sometimes teach us the best. I can’t wait to see part 2 where you show Niki who’s boss. Thanks for sharing!

@dexta_dsm 2 жыл бұрын

hey jason hope you are doing good ,, I too am an iphone repair technician in my country and thats all thanks to you at large your videos have taught me alot i mean alot ,, well in regard to this charging problem try checking for shorted caps of tigris ic specifically on tigris ldo caps they normally got shorted and render a phone not charging ,, i have faced this problem many times and failed until i decided to look for TIGRIS LDO rail. so try it it is also common in Iphone X too. thank you in advance

@g8sbs944 2 жыл бұрын

im a tech over many years im also a radio ham in the uk and had ticket since the 80s i do a lot o phones and laptops BUT will NOT EVEN LOOK AT IPHONES OR APPLE CRAP

@vikasjaiswal1178 2 жыл бұрын

Hey brother you are doing very great work because I am also technician the most of time I am also doing this I just kinds of mistakes 😂 I am from India ❤️ Thank you to make this type of contact to know about everyone new new problems and new new solutions keep it up bro 🔥❤️

@gbmewada 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason, I didnt enjoy watching you suffer.. Seriously.. But I am impressed with the skills you have, the knowledge you have, the resources tou have. This wasn't failure. First time in my life I came to know that bunch of inductors are packed with memory chip.. This was the lesson that how manufacturers are reaching to extremes..

@train4905 2 жыл бұрын

Godbless you jason for your honesty and humbleness,

@DoomBassMan 2 жыл бұрын

I always mirror flip the boardview when checking the chip itself, so I dont need to think about reversing it after counting.

@PlanB-3751 2 жыл бұрын

Good man Jason, keep going 👍‍ Cheers.

@stinchjack 2 жыл бұрын

I love the honest of the chapter title "Learning to count" :D

@mubashirbhat8041 2 жыл бұрын

Just love the sense of humor of this guy

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😁

@Gastell0 2 жыл бұрын

So, I guess for this kind of stuff, it would be cool to have a device with pins mapped to something like a breadboard via adapter with different pitches, so you can put the eprom chip, hold it down (some lever to be built-in), and you don't need to solder as long as pins are flexible enough to handle "dirty" package surface. I am pretty sure something like that already exists though

@lonnygallant827 2 жыл бұрын

It's all good to me. The good bad and the ugly! Keep making great content! :)

@hawaiisidecar 2 жыл бұрын

Good info, thanks

@lopakhanom398 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this helpful vedio👍👍

@mrechbreger 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how those inductor ICs work .. normally if you heat up regular coil inductors you might damage the isolation of the wire -- thus you are changing the value of the inductor and it might be the reason why the device draws more power than usual. I have seen that multiple times in the past.

@edwardsmith9049 2 жыл бұрын

Jason you are absolutely correct. With the right to repair. Apple will continue to make their phone's more and more. Completely worth less to any one trying to fix them. Except Apple. They can make more money. Selling a New one. You did your best. Great content keep up the great work. Look forward to your next videos.

@YungEarl1 2 жыл бұрын

lol. Local intergraded system architecture is Lisa, why did apple name it after a coil pack ? steve jobs is probably spinning in his grave for this. his daughter must be going through depression for this.

@Mind-your-own-beeswax 2 жыл бұрын

The missus threatened me with ball squeezage if I don’t come off KZfaq. Cheers Jason 😂

@1kreature Жыл бұрын

This is just a clean indication that Apple is doinbg this to make it harder to repair. They also want it to fail, ideally in such a way as to make customers reliant on their online data storage plans.

@appledoctorbologna2362 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason...try to replace u5900 ic...and check charging...if it works fine try to put back the original Lisa ic

@train4905 2 жыл бұрын

Exellent work sir

@F4LDT-Alain 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm an engineer, but when I graduated, things were still done with TTL chips :-) So my opinion is worthless :-) Still, I can't see any good reason for that nonsense either. Another great video of yours. Entertaining, instructive and so honest of you to show your errors as well. I really love all the witty comments. Thank you so much for the good time watching this.

@Todestelzer 2 жыл бұрын

They probably safe some money on the pick and place machine count. When you have millions of phones to make. If you can safe 1cent for one phone it’s safes a lot of money in the end.

@Tim.Stotelmeyer.2984 2 жыл бұрын

Did you flip the chip in 2 dimensions? Back to Front and Left to Right instead of just Back to Front?

@bdawg2513 2 жыл бұрын

Paul Daniels software :) Can you tell me your opinion on he board view software? Maybe how it compares to Open Board View. I was thinking of purchasing it but not sure how it will benefit me compared to Open Board View. Thank you sir for the video.

@Laptop_repair_zone 2 жыл бұрын

good to see you man...

@markmurphy9280 2 жыл бұрын

Hi from Cambridgeshire, UK.

@SparkieUwU 2 жыл бұрын

"A boneheaded move by Apple" great summary of the entire company xD

@bblod4896 2 жыл бұрын

You can't learn if you don't try. At least you did try; not a fail, a learning experience. Thanks for taking us with you on this journey.

@SidneyCritic 2 жыл бұрын

It's kind-of not surprising if you look at the new M1 Studio. Basically the SSD is just memory chips, with the SSD controller in the CPU, ie, a mem controller failure can't be repaired with a simple SSD swap. The SSD is also 5x the cost of a normal SSD.

@jaym5938 9 ай бұрын

When Lisa fell in place, didn't you slightly nudge it upwards on the right side? Maybe that's an issue?

@weareallbeingwatched4602 2 жыл бұрын

Lisa... I thought you were talking about the apple lisa that predated the mac 128k

@Joel-st5uw 2 жыл бұрын

From here in my arm chair, it looks like the "off by 1 column" error was on the ground pins and not the others. I think the ground connection was bridging GND and PP_VDD_MAIN on the chip. Maybe that shouldn't have mattered (is PP_VDD_MAIN for the inductors and not the EEPROM?). Anyway, I don't think that's what you meant to do. The column with all grounds was 11, it looks to me like you bridged two pins on column 10. Doubling up on ground pins seems unnecessary for this job, and adds extra avenues for counting errors. Perhaps safer to use just one ground pin on the edge for added confidence in the future?

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, there was really no need to be trying to solder across both pins! Part of the tunnel vision I get when I know a camera is watching me.

@KNFIX-CUCHI 2 жыл бұрын

nice sir 👍👍👍👍

@moriomakter3153 Жыл бұрын

Good Videos

@pardeepelectronics8796 2 жыл бұрын

hey jason good job

@brianrichmond3777 Жыл бұрын

Hiding data in hardware may have been done to either protect the data from access and/or to enable functions that are not for the end user's access such as for diagnostics or spying/espionage. The schematic/drawing you are using may be purposely mislabeled to cause failure to successfully access the data.

@mrony8632 2 жыл бұрын

Bitmap software name please?

@zx8401ztv 2 жыл бұрын

I don't enjoy watching you suffer, that's the wifes job :-D Apple are evil gits!, my opinion of cause. With so many solder pads i'm not surprised you got the wires mixed up. By the way when you are filming you are talking to yourself (no one is watching you) No need to get stressed.

@Android-ng1wn 2 жыл бұрын

What better place to hide the data, than in a pack of coils that also act as fuses for many hardware faults..

@markharrisllb 2 жыл бұрын

A brilliant video. This is top level iPhone brain surgery and thanks to Mr Apple doing it with one arm tied behind your back and sand in your eyes.

@satria4195 2 жыл бұрын

Why Inductor Coil need Data to work?

@ironclay3939 2 жыл бұрын

OK So Your Phone repair went kinda like mine Bro - Why does that sh1t always happen when we do something stupid ?!??? There's Areas - entire planets and even solar systems that baffle me so this was only a phone and it wasn't My Phone so we're Cool man !!;-)) My first comment "I saw it! sorry ;-) hey remember when phones had vacuum tube valves" would have been funny with images right? - so you had a day like mine did you bro?

@boelwerkr 2 жыл бұрын

They do it to fuck with the repair technician. :-) I think they did it because there was "space" Condensing small ICs into few bigger one makes building of the devices easier. Less elements to place. This is is a beef of mine for 25 years. Even the old home computers had that problem. Atari packed 3 ICs into one in a newer generation of computers, making the testing an repair much more complicated.

@privatename542 Жыл бұрын

October 1, 2022 .... Very sorry about any hurricane damage that might have occurred to your town. I hope all is well.

@ststele Жыл бұрын

Thank you! We didn't get any damage to our places but others around us were not so lucky. Hoping to have electricity back soon! Currently running on generator and batteries.

@ElevatorWasher5000 3 ай бұрын

I had a Hurricane come through in August 2023 and I lost power

@Mr.Morkovkaa 2 жыл бұрын

8/8p charging problem need to change resistor near hydra

@cecilveley5722 2 жыл бұрын

Eprom idk if spelled correctly… them need a program to work?and don’t they work only with the original system?

@cecilveley5722 2 жыл бұрын

Anybody can answer. Cars have eprom I’m not shure how they work

@shatrimatri5266 2 жыл бұрын

Is this chip different than the iPhone 7p. I always replace them in 7p They work fine No need reading data

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, for some reason they moved the logic data over to it. If replaced without knowing, the phone would need a full software restore to get it to boot again.

@Joel-st5uw 2 жыл бұрын

Does anybody sell a breakout board for this chip (for the sake of EEPROM IO)? Seems like that could add a lot of safety and confidence in this kind of recovery. If these inductors are known to get toasted on 8's, it could be worthwhile building a quick breakout yourself (or asking if the community is willing to do it). Would prob be cheap to order from somewhere like PCBWay or similar service.

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

I think under a microscope, some of the sockets on the tools we get would be easy to modify. I hardly ever wind up needing to try things this way though. The only time I need that data is when doing a full board swap (or am iPhone 8 with blown coils lol).

@ironclay3939 2 жыл бұрын

I saw it! sorry ;-) hey remember when phones had vacuum tube valves and remember fixing them was simple as "lifting the back off the truck and tapping valves till it made a difference" and pull/replace then start the generator again? Yeah those were the day guy right!-) Cause if we went to test the mobile phone without bolting the back of the truck back down all the cats in the area ended up in trees - but hey you can't say anything bro I saw You make a mistake as well ;-)

@MrPnew1 2 жыл бұрын

25:29 gotta love a chip named Lisa that loves a good spanking #naughtygirl 🤣 Kudos for being totally honest with what happened during this repair Jason. Nothing worse than techs that act like this stuff is easy, and try and pretend that they never make mistakes.

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

When I finished recording this, I had realized almost all of my mistakes, but then when I was editing, I realized that the name of this crazy little pack of coils is actually Niki and not Lisa.. an entire video of saying it wrong. so by this point, I could spend an extra day editing to fix my mistakes and ruin the video, or just post is as human as it is! So I'm sure Lisa or Niki either one appreciates a good spanking. Lol! Thanks

@Kanken-jl7oe Жыл бұрын

16:10 @STS Telecom, uuuuhhh... you soldered a GND wire to a SCL pad when the GND pad is actually the rectangular line on the bottom????? Why???? is it a mistake???

@arcilonjr 2 жыл бұрын

i also received one iphone 8 plus that have speaker problem and i discovered this in bad way because one of the inductor blow inside the lisa so i change it because i nit see the schematic before change and the phone wont boot anymore and another problem is this bank do not sustain much heat it shorts the inductors on the outside shell which is ground so it was a nightmare but in the end i solve the problem but the customer received back the phone erased but he was made backup but one simple problem became a headache but live is that way some times the problem became big and we have the deal whit that

@samsong2163 2 жыл бұрын

So this lisa need low heat ?

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Yah a really bad design on this model!!

@arcilonjr 2 жыл бұрын

@@samsong2163 yes use 138c solder or it will short inside i need to lose one to figure it out reflow whit 200c very carefully and after that flash the iphone in dfu and the phone will return to life

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

This is good to know, actually! Thank u

@vonnikon 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps all the GND pins are not internally connected in "Lisa"? You might have to find the correct GND pin by diode reading against 1.8V. Also, if a coil is burned open, why not just hook another coil up in parallel without desoldering "Lisa", in cases when it is just data recovery?

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh, this could have been a ground issue. I think I could have made a backup as long as I started with enough charge in the battery. It will connect with USB but won't charge. I like the idea of just sticking that LX coil somewhere else and leaving the severed limb. 🙂

@vonnikon 2 жыл бұрын

@@ststele but then again, I would have expected that a missing GND connection would read as all '1'. But it is hard to predict how a miswired component will behave.

@mixtech4408 2 жыл бұрын

Good

@FR4M3Sharma 2 жыл бұрын

The mental Gymnastics Apple have gone through to pull of these type of stupid shit is just insane.

@jimmythecricket25 2 жыл бұрын

If you didn't mess up Jason I wouldn't believe you're human. Lol

@GetRefurbed 2 жыл бұрын

Woo hoo. Watch fodder for this evening!

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Fodder watching me fumble. Lol I should be embarrassed to post so many obvious mistakes in just one video.

@GetRefurbed 2 жыл бұрын

@@ststele hell no. Mistakes are thd only way we learn anything. If we never made mistakes we'd never know how to avoid them

@arsayu 2 жыл бұрын

First time you counted right just need to swap scl with gnd. Second counting is wrong.

@jonnymakers9560 2 жыл бұрын

Apple is making sure these iPhones are not fixable, only replaceable. Chip on chip

@ameermavia591 2 жыл бұрын

we're you go bro miss you

@theAlex11x 2 жыл бұрын

Hello bro, it is not your fault. 8/8p iPhones has a huge problem - design errors in layers of motherboard. 8/8p has two versions intel or Qualcomm baseband. For first and second design factories do motherboards, but there are different manufacturers. 8/8p on Qualcomm baseband has motherboard with poor layered textolite quality. Customers came with this phones, has different and weird problems (not charging, no power, rebooting, stuck on logo, no sound, no image), but board looks good. Just hot board 150 degrees Celsius 2-5 minutes and it can work perfectly. Non-reparable, yeah, swap to another board do not, because another board from those manufacturer, may be with same issue Xr has 3 different manufacturers, revision A,B,10 wrote behind the top under the sticker “A” or “10” can die or lose baseband/Wi-Fi/camera for no reason. Only “B” works good, and can be used as do or for swap

@Ed31003 2 жыл бұрын

hello Jason!!

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Ed! KZfaq just took a galactic year to "check" this video or it would have been up a bit sooner today!

@Ed31003 2 жыл бұрын

gotta get one of those shirts "Boss Man" for my wife🤣🤣

@salumedard6603 2 жыл бұрын

Sir I need your address. I have iphone 11 pro max baseband problem. I watch many of your videos and I know you are the best

@klazzera 2 жыл бұрын

I bet apple is trying to protect their phones from people like you randomly frying their eproms by battling against right to repair😂😂😂 jokes aside, awesome watch even though you failed!

@arkiefyler 2 жыл бұрын

What does "logic" have to do with being an "engineer"!? 🤪

@Dineshkumar-jf6yh 2 жыл бұрын

Your osm brother

@fpgaguy Жыл бұрын

maybe it helps sales of new phones

@seapeddler 2 жыл бұрын

A Japanese saying goes: Success is a metamorphosis of failure.

@RetroFix 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes. The ol splooge volcano.

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

lol!!

@user-de4dm3ek9i Жыл бұрын

Easy jtag🎉

@stepheemkayee9324 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes we overthink I don’t know if you tried another charging dock because it’s pulling zero amps

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

I really wish it would have worked. I tried after each IC and then once more after this video. 🙂

@stepheemkayee9324 2 жыл бұрын

@@ststele haa thus strange maybe they is resistor or something acting up, i had an iPhone 7 retuned due to only charge on a pc after charging ic repair technically i nocked the resistor to pmu. Have iPhone 7 Plus with half backlight I have replaced everything I guess will replace trinity now 😁

@Wyld1one Жыл бұрын

huh. so it's there to put/hide a serial number. then, no match - no work

@ThatOne5 Жыл бұрын

Totalitarian regime corporations, only the producers can fix it, meaning you don't own that device.

@ironclay3939 2 жыл бұрын

We have to remember the great words of our god, "Lord Chimp Monk" ""Never Let the Monkeys Know How a Cell Phone Works"" and 10,000 years later bro in your recycle bin this week we have Coke Cans, a few consoling Bottles and a dead cell phone - Good on you bro you killed an Evil Cell Phone "All Right High 5's" Now we can bring back the Truck Mounted Cell phones Versions !! vacuum tube valves 4 EVA - Well the fact is that phones are not getting smaller bro They're now folding with Apps for Full Body Wrap-a-round heating for EU customers without GAS this winter and you NEED vacuum tube valves for that kind of heat out of a phone RIGHT. Harmony, Huawei, the phone you can carry in a Truck, but cuts your heating bills by 2/3rds.

@gsmmithu2218 2 жыл бұрын

🤔

@cdarting91 2 жыл бұрын

Pretend like what didn’t happen??? 🤫😉

@danielrock3119 2 жыл бұрын

no video on the iphone transplant jason

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

When I'm mentally ready! I did an iPhone 8 swap this week and getting ready to start an 11 Pro Max swap as I type this. I have more than one of those in queue and just might record one. I get severe tunnel vision and make really dumb mistakes.

@danielrock3119 2 жыл бұрын

@@ststele yea i seen your post about the 8 on faceook. what stencil are you using for reballing. tried doing transplants a few time on ic locked boards but still no luck yet

@microtrade154 Жыл бұрын

How is going business??

@dave7010 2 жыл бұрын

I'll do what I can to show her the way And maybe one day I will free her Though I know no one can see her Lisa Lisa, sad Lisa Lisa. Thanks Jason. 👍

@mubashirbhat8041 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason

@ststele 2 жыл бұрын

Hello 👋

@yavuzakbina5835 5 ай бұрын

because apple want`s to make it diffucult to repair, thats why =)

@ststele 5 ай бұрын

Very true. They’re doing a lot to combat independent repair. Amazing how they can claim to “support” right to repair while blatantly doing the opposite. They’re creating mountains of waste with this craziness!

@yavuzakbina5835 5 ай бұрын

I realy hate that they are putting the caps and othe components so near to chips and ic! @@ststele

@jamescoon9950 Жыл бұрын

Fail and fail often, Jerry Ellsworth ....

@hugobalder7447 2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly we will have the right to repair, but before that we have to buy tools, that are more expensive, than a new iphone. Well done Apple 👍😀😀😀