A brief overview of that racist Dalek sketch from the '70s

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Dalek Bumps

Dalek Bumps

25 күн бұрын

In 1975, Spike Milligan made a comedy sketch featuring a Dalek. It was racist. Discuss.
All footage is the property of the BBC (for better or worse...)
Music by Jeroen Tel, Carey Blyton, and Frank Klepacki

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@redjirachi1
@redjirachi1 21 күн бұрын
Damnit writers, the Daleks are supposed to be racist, not you!
@wolfgangwilcox2323
@wolfgangwilcox2323 24 күн бұрын
You’re telling me the thing I thought was a handkerchief on his head this whole time was supposed to be a turban?
@xander1052
@xander1052 24 күн бұрын
News to me as well.
@Professor_Toothpaste
@Professor_Toothpaste 24 күн бұрын
​@@xander1052 Same.
@GalexTEM
@GalexTEM 21 күн бұрын
seen this comedy sketch years ago I genuinely thought it was was just wearing a towel for no reason
@nicholasdickens2801
@nicholasdickens2801 21 күн бұрын
When I was a kid I thought it was shaving foam. Yes I was 5. The voice it just seemed like a Dalek-y voice. It’s just rather boring as a sketch.
@Quod_Matter
@Quod_Matter 24 күн бұрын
Honestly, I'd just have a sketch about a Dalek living the life of a normal person, because the juxtaposition of a Dalek in, say, a boring office job, is hilarious. Like just picture the ultimate death machine having to make small talk with colleagues during lunch break - the jokes write themselves.
@ZOMBiFOX13
@ZOMBiFOX13 24 күн бұрын
Someone made a video similar to what you're thinking
@ZOMBiFOX13
@ZOMBiFOX13 24 күн бұрын
It's called day in the life of a dalek
@deadeyedfae
@deadeyedfae 24 күн бұрын
Quod!! Hey its Fae! Fancy seeing you here
@Quod_Matter
@Quod_Matter 24 күн бұрын
@@deadeyedfae hello!!!!!
@404TVfr
@404TVfr 24 күн бұрын
@@ZOMBiFOX13 Huh. Also did that really warrant two comments...? Just curious.
@ExpressRhubarb
@ExpressRhubarb 24 күн бұрын
what's even sadder about this is it was the last time Dalek 2's skirt saw on-screen use before it was removed from the pool of TV props. Dalek 7-2 was probably the most iconic 70's Dalek, from playing the gold Dalek leader in Day to the prop that shot down Davros in genesis
@Professor_Toothpaste
@Professor_Toothpaste 24 күн бұрын
I've actually never noticed this, I couldn't really understand what the characters said, and I always the white thing on the Dalek's head was just gray hair to signify the Dalek was old. But I now realize how _foolish_ I was!
@joelmole3157
@joelmole3157 24 күн бұрын
If I were to do a Dalek sketch, I would have it be a mockumentary about a Dalek living a normal earth live completely in character. Maybe he could have a human roommate.
@lewischerry3552
@lewischerry3552 24 күн бұрын
There’s a funny dead ringers sketch where the fourth doctor moves in with they cybermen family for a week it’s a good laugh very silly
@m.sharif_3d
@m.sharif_3d 24 күн бұрын
Now that, I'd watch.
@TheToggster
@TheToggster 24 күн бұрын
There is a little series like that called Dalek Garry.
@staceys5447
@staceys5447 24 күн бұрын
Closest I can recommend is the mattaf productions KZfaq channel he does sketches were a group of daleks live with him
@m.sharif_3d
@m.sharif_3d 24 күн бұрын
@@staceys5447 Mattaf Productions' Dalek sketches are really funny
@xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb
@xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb 24 күн бұрын
I’m Pakistani and honestly I just didn’t find the video funny. I had no idea why the daleks had to be Pakistani like the turban isn’t even like a turban. I don’t get it.
@dark_ops1651
@dark_ops1651 24 күн бұрын
easiest Dalek Bumps W ever
@permets2apollox453
@permets2apollox453 24 күн бұрын
What ive heard is the concept of adding the race elememt was to mock how people would describe migrants as "alien. Though i do agree that they kinda fumbled the point
@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810
@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810 24 күн бұрын
They must've failed at that point then 😂😂 I seriously am just baffled at this sketch
@Nakeethus_Hunter
@Nakeethus_Hunter 23 күн бұрын
Spike was born in India, raised in India, went to school in India and mixed with ordinary Indian people, he spoke several Indian languages fluently and had no hint of racism in his body, he did it because he was a comic writer and he thought it was funny - now put that in the curry!
@hamishwhitehenderson5197
@hamishwhitehenderson5197 13 күн бұрын
@@Nakeethus_Hunter he didn't have a hint of racism in his body because racism exists in the mind, and in general psychological and personality traits are unaffected by the colour, shape or size of the body, unlike what a racist would tell you.
@Fire_Score_Maximum
@Fire_Score_Maximum 21 күн бұрын
As a Latino American Doctor Who fan, I have no idea back when seeing it on the early years of KZfaq the Dalek is explicitly coded as Pakistani and thought it’s wearing a blonde wig rather than a Turban. I guess it’s more obvious if you’re in Britain and have some knowledge about the nation’s immigration history compared to being American with the knowledge of its immigration history.
@CyberController-
@CyberController- 24 күн бұрын
Bro was too racist for the Daleks
@Haydenthe229
@Haydenthe229 24 күн бұрын
Shush
@DWboy14
@DWboy14 4 күн бұрын
​@@Haydenthe229 you shush
@NWR_astrotrain
@NWR_astrotrain 24 күн бұрын
I think a good dalek sketch would be an office setting
@Paulscribbles
@Paulscribbles 24 күн бұрын
I entirely agree with you. The sketch would actually have been funnier without the racism which, even if it weren’t offensive, simply gets in the way. I’ve heard that Milligan’s mental health was in decline at the time, although even if this might excuse lapses in his own judgement, one imagines there must have been any number of other people involved in the process between writing and broadcast who could have stepped in. Clearly the BBC was a somewhat different institution in those days… On a small technical point, though, India and Pakistan - despite clear cultural and religious divisions across the region -were not two separate countries until 29 years after Spike Milligan was born.
@andrewclark8880
@andrewclark8880 24 күн бұрын
My boss at work is of Pakistani descent and eats curry every day. 😅
@dryspongeyt7353
@dryspongeyt7353 22 күн бұрын
People used to be able to joke.
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 22 күн бұрын
@@dryspongeyt7353 people can still joke, but if they insert pointless racism into their joke, they're gonna be called out on it. Why would you want to live among people who throw random racist language around in an uncouth manner? Unless it affirmed your preexisting beliefs, of course... 🤔
@henlomelon7313
@henlomelon7313 22 күн бұрын
​@@dalekbumps Because they're fun.
@legobi_wan_kenobi
@legobi_wan_kenobi 22 күн бұрын
​@@henlomelon7313 guess it affirms your bigotry then 😂
@henlomelon7313
@henlomelon7313 22 күн бұрын
@@legobi_wan_kenobi it affirms my funny bone UwU
@legobi_wan_kenobi
@legobi_wan_kenobi 21 күн бұрын
@@henlomelon7313 okay, enjoy your bone
@muchomuchoman6050
@muchomuchoman6050 23 күн бұрын
I discovered this sketch in high school, and the "put him in the curry" line fucking killed me.
@thomasjohnston9795
@thomasjohnston9795 24 күн бұрын
I think a video on dalek props being used in the infamous "BBC Christmas tapes" is worth doing They were internal tapes of bloopers and sketches the BBC staff working on Xmas day would put together for thier own amusement. It's very 70s "Lad" humour. I recall one sketch with a dalek saying Bollocks and then him getting off with the tapping machine, voiced by Roy Skelton. One in the 90s parodying director general John Birt as davros, he was depicted in the press as a croaked voiced dalek destroying the BBC. That's a decent little sketch. Also the origin of clip of other bloopers like Tom Baker drinking with Romana and swearing at K9
@zabdielvanegas7397
@zabdielvanegas7397 24 күн бұрын
I've seen a couple of mute clips of this skit, I had no idea it was supposed to be a "Pakistani" Dalek
@newsreelhistory2237
@newsreelhistory2237 24 күн бұрын
A sketch were the metaltron doesn't kill itself but when it says "I was freedom" we hard cut to it spinning in a field with ice cream in it's plunger while happy together by the turtles plays.
@staceys5447
@staceys5447 24 күн бұрын
I love your videos and how you often speak with such enthusiasm but to be honest hearing you be so sarcastic and savage was also fun!
@LULU-animate
@LULU-animate 10 күн бұрын
I’m not going to act like I’m some expert on Dalek comedy, but I believe what makes the Daleks funny in comedy sketches is making them do ordinary things but they keep their behaviour and characterisation on point. I don’t know If I explained this well so I’ll use an example, look at Big Fat anniversary Quiz. That show had a Dalek cameo in an episode, and it knew how to use the Dalek, as they basically told Nick Briggs ‘just have fun’. Nick kept the Dalek in character even when he said things a Dalek wouldn’t say, which is what makes it funny. It’s the juxtaposition of hearing the most terrifying hate filled alien scream things like “Angry birds!” , and still doing it completely in character with its same shrill voice that makes Daleks funny. This could’ve just been a Dalek living an ordinary life, but like you said it feels like they just ran out of ideas part way through and just said “Make it racist”
@idontlikeitproductions3509
@idontlikeitproductions3509 24 күн бұрын
I am glad you said what you said, I won’t lie, this sketch was my introduction to Spike Milligan and I loved it, but you are 100% right, it is offensive and derogatory and it has aged like milk. From all I’ve managed to find about Spike Milligan through ancillary media like docos is that he genuinely thought well of non-British cultures. BUT, and this is a colossal BUT, that doesn’t change the fact that he still loved playing to stereotypes and making jokes about race, watch his appearance on the Muppet Show, it is SO MUCH WORSE. And even if we make the assumption that every joke about race he made was in good faith, that doesn’t stop the audience taking it in bad faith and seeing his humour as validation of their own prejudices. That’s the core thing that supporters of poorly aged humour fail to acknowledge or understand. I think like a lot of comics, it’s likely that either it never occurred to him or he couldn’t acknowledge that something absurd he created could have negative consequences. Especially given that he had no respect for authority, he would not want to be held accountable for that. Let’s hope we can take this sketch as a lesson of what not to do in the future.
@idontlikeitproductions3509
@idontlikeitproductions3509 24 күн бұрын
An addendum, part of the power of humour is that it can it can disempower the object of it by removing its dignity, that is the guiding principle of satire. And what happens when you take away the dignity of a group already subject to prejudice?
@crimsong8068
@crimsong8068 24 күн бұрын
You know, I always thought the Dalek had a towel on it's head, implying he'd just gotten out of the shower or something... It does suck that some aspects of Doctor Who are tainted by attitudes of the time. Famously, "Talons of Weng-Chiang" is a pretty good story, but the stereotypes do bring it down. Without the title, you'd never know what the Dalek was supposed to represent. I hate to say that knowing the full context does taint my enjoyment of the sketch.
@mrrumpypumpy4939
@mrrumpypumpy4939 24 күн бұрын
OH MY GOD! For the longest time I thought the turban was a wig, and the Dalek was supposed to be a grandmother of sorts. I thought the whole curry bit was just some random gag. No idea this was racist! Thanks for the clarification though.
@xander1052
@xander1052 24 күн бұрын
You can also hear that they added a slight south asian accent to the Dalek. tbh I found the sketch more funny at the time (which for me was in the 00s when my dad showed me it) for the physical comedy and the absurdity of putting your grandmother in a curry, these days though I do find the stereotyping painful to watch.
@ThegreenMnMguy
@ThegreenMnMguy 24 күн бұрын
Can you do a video on dalek cameos in non doctor who media
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 24 күн бұрын
I'm planning on doing a series of videos on that topic, which non-DW Dalek appearance would you like to see first?
@permets2apollox453
@permets2apollox453 24 күн бұрын
​@@dalekbumpsnot sure if it counts or if you can find much info on it. But John barroman did a panto in the 2000s featuring 3 of the cult of skaro props
@permets2apollox453
@permets2apollox453 24 күн бұрын
Apparently it was aladdin in 2008
@Sparx632
@Sparx632 24 күн бұрын
@@dalekbumpsthe Looney Tunes Daleks have quite an interesting backstory
@andrewbradnum9099
@andrewbradnum9099 24 күн бұрын
A question for dalek bumps question time. what are some of the best big finish audios that have the 11th doctor.
@bradstar9023
@bradstar9023 24 күн бұрын
Pls cover the postman pat movie dalek cameo
@guymadgesam24
@guymadgesam24 24 күн бұрын
I've heard before that this was Spike's response to the even more racist newspapers referring to Pakistani immigrants as "aliens" and "invaders" (the portrayal is still disgusting by today's standards though)
@robotx9285
@robotx9285 24 күн бұрын
I think this skit is absolutely hilarious, and is bar none the funniest Dalek skit of all times. I also think that the racism here is totally unnecessary for the comedy to work, should've never been planted here in the first place and with each rewatch I grow a little bit more disgusted with it. For me, the comedic pacing of this skit is perfect, the performances of the actress, operator and voice actor was excellent, the domestic setting juxtaposed against the chaotic escalation and implication that that this is the norm for their lives makes the comedy explode to life. When I watched this as a child, I wasn't aware of the stereotypes, and I only felt that those elements just felt off, while now being aware of the racism as a teenager, all it does it scours an otherwise perfect skit.
@badwolf66
@badwolf66 20 күн бұрын
Just thought of a sketch It's pretty simple really A Dalek Soap Opera based on Coronation Street called "Daleknation Street" and it's basically Humanisrd Daleks living mundane lives with alot of humour in a Stteek in Skaro, most of these Daleks have retired from fighting and are now raising their families in Daleknation Street.
@FactionParadox2090
@FactionParadox2090 24 күн бұрын
Oh god this was hard to watch. Kinda curious to see how you react to TV Offal's Gay Daleks, your deadpan sarcasm and critique made me laugh a lot more than the actual sketch did. Spike could be funny at times but this dropped the ball so hard.
@Nakeethus_Hunter
@Nakeethus_Hunter 23 күн бұрын
Skill issue
@azarothshadowsoul
@azarothshadowsoul 24 күн бұрын
I saw this sketch when I was first getting to know the Daleks and Doctor Who itself as an 8 or 9 year old in 2007/08, and as much as I love Spike Milligan (look no further than the Muppet Show), it just didn't land for me. I think my favourite non-DW appearance of the Daleks is from Looney Tunes: Back In Action, even though they didn't do or say much it was still so cool to see Daleks alongside Marvin the Martian, The Man From Planet X and the Metaluna Mutant from This Island Earth
@TheBlackcredo
@TheBlackcredo 24 күн бұрын
Totally agree. He had a great premise already, the racist element was totally unnecessary.
@TheBritFromOz008
@TheBritFromOz008 23 күн бұрын
You could remove the race element from the sketch and it would run just fine, with the exception of changing the references to the curry.
@paladinboyd1228
@paladinboyd1228 22 күн бұрын
@@TheBritFromOz008You could keep the Line about throwing Grandma in the curry if Curry was mentioned being for Dinner by the wife.
@cattercakethesecond6534
@cattercakethesecond6534 24 күн бұрын
I am actually crying with laughter that people are getting mad at dalek pronouns of all things.
@Nakeethus_Hunter
@Nakeethus_Hunter 23 күн бұрын
Weird how weirdos want people to respect the pronouns of literal Nazi alegories
@legobi_wan_kenobi
@legobi_wan_kenobi 23 күн бұрын
​@@Nakeethus_Hunterdid you actually watch the pronouns video? Or did you just read the thumbnail and make assumptions? It's got nothing to do with 'respecting' pronouns, it's pointing out how it's odd that some Daleks are an 'it' and others are a 'he'. It's discussing pronouns in the literacy sense, yknow, basic Key Stage One English comprehension? You're getting triggered over nothing 😂
@splat-trainproductions
@splat-trainproductions 17 күн бұрын
I get mad at the fact people prefer the boring grey & black Mk 3 Daleks as the "Genesis Daleks" over the original 1963 Silver & Blue Mk 1 Daleks, the TRUE original Daleks.
@gunsfordays9932
@gunsfordays9932 23 күн бұрын
Honestly i still find the skit funny.
@JakeandElwood1980
@JakeandElwood1980 24 күн бұрын
That was a original 70s dalek from a comedy show
@bobherse1997
@bobherse1997 18 күн бұрын
Was that a clip from the doctor who anime fan trailer? Lovely to see that
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 18 күн бұрын
@@bobherse1997 yes it was! I love that animation
@codaboi138
@codaboi138 24 күн бұрын
Honestly I do see the slightest sliver of "a product of it's time" having merit. Sadly my dad (a guy stuck in the 70's) found this kinda crap hilarious. Just the product of a time where the morals weren't as refined as nowadays, as many will say of us in the future no doubt. What rung true back the definitely doesn't today and I'd argue that's just because we know better now. Ughh but it cant be denied, the racist element is so clearly tacked on in this sketch. I personally do believe that cultural and ethnic comedy can be done right without it being derogatory. This kinda stuff though? it's the total opposite. I think the funniest part about the sketch is the sheer irony of a Dalek being used to depict not a racist (which is practically their whole deal) but as a racist stereotype. Like... how did no one see how ironic that is??
@tony4189
@tony4189 24 күн бұрын
I’ve always wondered how this got past Terry Nation/Terry Nation Estate who, I thought, were very much against giving permission for anything that made fun of the Daleks or made them look stupid. Which this sketch certainly does!
@baggin.
@baggin. 24 күн бұрын
I remember watching this on KZfaq years ago as a kid I thought the Dalek just had a shower and he just had a towel on his head lol
@benchapman1581
@benchapman1581 24 күн бұрын
I wanna know what you think of Joe vevers
@ScribblestoScreen
@ScribblestoScreen 24 күн бұрын
In terms of ethics with Dalek comedy, this is the worst, but worst comedy thing with a Dalek I would say the 2005 film “I was Abducted by the Daleks” Fails both as a type of film in its genre and even calling it a parody of Doctor Who or sci-fi, it’s got nothing to offer
@matthewcollins7358
@matthewcollins7358 24 күн бұрын
As a kid, I loved it. Knowing the full concept…yeah 😬 It was the 70s but yeah, it’s defo aged like milk.
@DWboy14
@DWboy14 4 күн бұрын
Put the milk in the curry as well
@crusaderdino2739
@crusaderdino2739 24 күн бұрын
Joke idea but the Cyberman Call Center by Ashens
@JamesAHirons_
@JamesAHirons_ 24 күн бұрын
I took it as a hanky cap until you said. Bit like Alf Garnet wore
@TheBritFromOz008
@TheBritFromOz008 23 күн бұрын
My two cents on the matter is that most YT uploads of the sketch miss out the caption that apparently preceded it: “A normal mixed-race working class family” or something of that nature. In the 1970s, there was plenty of racism flying around and the British saw migrants, particularly anyone from predominantly non-white countries such as Pakistan, as “alien”, something that in this sketch I believe Milligan is lampooning - nothing really says “alien” more than an actual alien like a dalek. That point doesn’t really come across though and so the Pakistani jokes cross the line into bad taste. Doctor Who itself does reference a similar thing in Remembrance of the Daleks with the white supremacy gang that appears and, happily, get steamrolled. As a kid, the race elements went over my head and I was more interested in the physical comedy of the dalek being so practically unsuitable for a human household. Just putting a dalek in a normal human situation is funny enough, rather than trying to lampoon racial attitudes of the time simultaneously. Rewatching it as an adult, it’s difficult to ignore the race element of the sketch and how you could remove it and the sketch could still work virtually unaltered. I’m much more a fan of physical and “alternative” comedy, the sort Rik Mayall was famous for, than this sort of thing: Mayall and his contemporaries essentially sought to do away with the racism and “mother-in-law” jokes that had been prevalent prior to the 80s (as here). Spike Milligan apparently wasn’t such a big fan of Mayall, perhaps because of the differences in what they thought others would find funny; he called him the “arsehole of British comedy” for “finding nose-picking and farting funny”. At least passing gas is unlikely to stigmatise a minority even if you are trying to lampoon a common attitude of the time.
@Just-Plain-Potential
@Just-Plain-Potential 24 күн бұрын
I did some funny stuff with my Daleks, but kept the story flowing. I had one glide around the corner only to be blasted off camera and fly back into the wall. Physical comedy while the story flows around it.
@Nigel-xp4rf
@Nigel-xp4rf 24 күн бұрын
There was a lot more of this than what I thought, but that's probably because Thirty Years and More Than Thirty Years In The TARDIS didn't explain the background of the sketch or anything else, I bet Dalek63-88 would.
@silverdaleks1
@silverdaleks1 23 күн бұрын
Yeah looking at it now this sketch has aged like milk , also the dalek exterminating FX are very poorly done I can under them not having a budget to add laser FX but they don't even add a laser or zapping sound effect to imply the dalek is firing it's gun, also funny how the kid dalek is black and silver just like the dalek supreme from Remembrance of the daleks .
@acmeanvil3022
@acmeanvil3022 24 күн бұрын
As a fan of both Doctor Who and Looney Tunes, I'd love to see you do a video on the Dalek's appearance in Back in Action!
@JakeandElwood1980
@JakeandElwood1980 24 күн бұрын
Hey dalek bumps did you know that dalek cameo in robot chicken
@peterdixon7734
@peterdixon7734 16 күн бұрын
I will lurk here like an entombed Genesis Dalek for 50 years to see what critical comments the people of 2074 make about this current era of 2024. "They were always throwing the first stone."
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 16 күн бұрын
@@peterdixon7734 I'd argue the first stone was cast in '75 when the Daleks were co-opted for a pointlessly insensitive sketch, but I suppose history will be the judge
@peterdixon7734
@peterdixon7734 16 күн бұрын
@@dalekbumps What would people in 1924 have said?
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 16 күн бұрын
@@peterdixon7734 Idk, Daleks didn't exist back then
@peterdixon7734
@peterdixon7734 16 күн бұрын
@@dalekbumps Time travel, given that RTD is getting meta.
@Alwolf-en5lm
@Alwolf-en5lm 24 күн бұрын
I never knew this about this scene.😱 I always thought it was a towel. I thought the Dalek got out of the shower
@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne
@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne 24 күн бұрын
it's just got home from work according to the dialogue
@Alwolf-en5lm
@Alwolf-en5lm 24 күн бұрын
Oh that's how the scene plays out I've only ever seen it on the 30th anniversary DVD back when I had it on video I was quite young like I say I always thought it was a towel I never knew the backstory of scene
@lewischerry3552
@lewischerry3552 24 күн бұрын
It’s a shame that Milligan took such a great idea for a dalek sketch and used it to be a punch down racist. Must have had a bit of the Dalek factor in him.
@DalekPratt1963
@DalekPratt1963 24 күн бұрын
I remember seeing this in a funny dalek moments video, and thought nothing of it. Now I see the truth, and it is not good.
@DalekGarf
@DalekGarf 24 күн бұрын
I enjoy the sketch but the racism wasn't needed, I don't think it was made to offend people but came across offensive.
@vocalist92
@vocalist92 24 күн бұрын
I actually remember back in school, when I was first getting into Dr Who, I did make a Dalek comedy comic series as part of a club I was part of. It was more of a back and forth 4-panel setup between Daleks stationed on a mostly desolate Desert world. Each had their own distinct personality though, but it was very basic. It was essentially Straight-man Dalek interacts with Dumbass Dalek, there were also a few others like the Senior officer Daleks and an Imperial Dalek spy among their ranks but he was still in his Imperial casing and everyone was either too bored to care, and the punchline was pretty much always just Extermination of whoever was the wrong-doer. I was only about 11-12 when I made these and they're pretty much lost media now 20 years later, but I have been curious about reviving the concept with a more mature perspective
@IShatTheBed
@IShatTheBed 24 күн бұрын
This is probably the most triggered I’ve ever seen you get. But fair enough the jokes in that sketch were just uncalled for
@paleomiguel
@paleomiguel 24 күн бұрын
I remember watching this clip on youtube many years ago as a small kid, so long in fact that I hadn't even learn to speak English as a second language proper. I just thought that the turban was a lump of soap foam and the joke was that it came out of the bath or something? As you say, it's really crude. Then again, if I did know a bit more of English at the time, I still wouldn't had get that this was suppose to represent a specific ethnic group because of how basic the portrayal is.
@DWboy14
@DWboy14 4 күн бұрын
PUT HIM IN THE CURRY
@zethperez7074
@zethperez7074 2 күн бұрын
i thought the turban was a wig?????
@stuff31
@stuff31 24 күн бұрын
The Gay Daleks would be a fun one to hear your thoughts on. Witnessing your ability to rip into lazy bigotry humour gives me faith that you could do much the same to a series of sketches where the punchline is just Daleks spunking on each other and being creepy, offensive caricatures of gay people.
@Jacoboy27
@Jacoboy27 23 күн бұрын
While I agree with everything you said about the sketch I feel like some of the comments you highlighted from the pronoun video weren't that bad, don't get me wrong, some of them absolutely were bad but i think stuff like " daleks have no concept of gender", "I don't think daleks care TBH, and "daleks are woke??" are just jokes that aren't really trying to devalue pronouns or insult the video.
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 23 күн бұрын
Fair point, I apologise if I lumped anyone into that group who was just making a joke. It's quite hard to tell sometimes, especially in the case of that particular video which was flooded with angry comments for some reason
@GeorgeTheDinoGuy
@GeorgeTheDinoGuy 24 күн бұрын
Brilliant points!
@staceys5447
@staceys5447 24 күн бұрын
Tbh I think spike Milligan was just obsessed with making racist jokes and voices he made 2 shows 'curry and chips' and 'the melting pot' which were thankfully seen as racist even at the time. Maybe he just thought it was an easy joke he could get away with to pad out the sketch?
@liamc9998
@liamc9998 24 күн бұрын
Y’know, up until watching this video, I never knew the racist aspect of this sketch. Never once knew the dalek was supposed to be from Pakistan, and never knew that was supposed to be a turban on its head. In fact up until a few minutes ago I always just assumed it was some type of foam or shaving cream with how it jiggled about. It always confounded me as to why the dalek had shaving cream of all things on its head given its was supposed to have been coming back from work, but I never thought to look further into it.
@staceys5447
@staceys5447 24 күн бұрын
Just checking out some of the comments first off why watch a video it's obvious you're going to agree with and second off I don't think telling bumps not to make anymore videos like this is going to stop him. Is him calling out this lazy sketch really a step too far?
@404TVfr
@404TVfr 24 күн бұрын
0:54 YOOOO I remember that fanmade anime mockup thing! God, that takes me right back. Weird to think that was... what, 13 years ago now? God we're getting old. Additional, I have to say it genuinely was just a thing of its time. Same thing applies to Talons of Weng Chiang, it was just... literally how it was back in the 1970s. Viewing it in the present day is uncomfortable af yes, modern audience doubley so. Same way we sorta saw the rise of Anti-SJWs and the birth of "go woke get broke" types in the mid-2010s. I find it funny personally because I guess I still have that slightly faded away edgy sense of humour from said 2010s era, but I do agree in that it is objectively racist. Okay ramble over, there's my two thoughts.
@jokerfan4931
@jokerfan4931 10 күн бұрын
Wait, That Was A Turban? I Thought That was A Wig Or Soup
@darkapostle1749
@darkapostle1749 24 күн бұрын
@0:55 I know that clip! Actually a cracking thing to watch.
@matteomascaropennacchi2220
@matteomascaropennacchi2220 24 күн бұрын
I thought it was Just cake, what a disgrace human
@Cybermat47
@Cybermat47 24 күн бұрын
Yeah, the funniest parts of the sketch have nothing to do with the fact that the Dalek is supposed to be Pakistani. Remove those, and the funny bits would still be funny. According to some of the other comments, though, making the Dalek Pakistani **may** have been a failed attempt to make fun of racist newspapers at the time? But then I’ve found sources claiming that Spike Milligan actually was racist? But he was also bipolar, and IDK enough about that condition to be comfortable making a judgement on him (though it doesn’t excuse or justify anything racist that he did say or do). But, yeah, at the end of the day, the whole ‘Pakistani’ part of the sketch is just unfunny and drags the whole thing down, no matter the intentions.
@johnidk7963
@johnidk7963 24 күн бұрын
I've only seen a part of this, and honestly thought that was supposed to be a towel. Shame.
@gabrielho1874
@gabrielho1874 19 күн бұрын
Thought that was a old woman wig
@vin-dog575
@vin-dog575 24 күн бұрын
There are Pakistanis who actually found this funny. Comedy is subjective. If you dont like it, don't watch it.
@hellsw0rth
@hellsw0rth 24 күн бұрын
Racism deserves calling out. It doesn’t deserve tolerance.
@greggoleggo9160
@greggoleggo9160 24 күн бұрын
“There are black people who actually support the confederacy. If you don’t like it, don’t learn about the civil war”
@artfulanders8449
@artfulanders8449 22 күн бұрын
If you muted the whole sketch, made it B&W and put "Death to the Daleks" music over it you could make it slightly better - Say it's the Daleks trying to invade Earth in the 1920s and stumbling into a silent movie set; malfunctions cause one to shrink
@jamesthegoo7600
@jamesthegoo7600 23 күн бұрын
This sketch is ancient, getting angry over it is a waste of energy.
@dregoth22
@dregoth22 23 күн бұрын
I think it was more a request from the producers than Spike himself, seeing this was the same period that equally questionable shows like it aint half hot mum, and shows with bernard manning were commissioned. Remove the references to the dalek being pakistani, take off the disrecspectful example of a turban, and switch curry to soup, and you're sorted
@FirstSWDWhoSurvivedRemembrance
@FirstSWDWhoSurvivedRemembrance 23 күн бұрын
What an awful terrible no good comedy sketch. Should've used the bombs from destiny of the daleks instead. What a missed opportunity,
@snakedaemongaming6590
@snakedaemongaming6590 3 күн бұрын
Curry Would Jim come to the dairy room
@xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb
@xXSwaghetti.YoloneseXx-uf2bb 24 күн бұрын
My idea for a comedy sketch for daleks: an Alternate cult of skaro esque group comes to earth in present day to subvert humanity by pitting them against each other and influencing hyper-capitalist ideas. It would parody modern society, the military industrial complex and pit countries against each other by transplanting the daleks notion of superiority (racism, classism, etc) in humans. The punch line is that the daleks land and realise they don’t have to do anything, noting that the humans are already destroying each other. With one dalek turning to another and mentioning that they could extract human hatred to make the daleks even more hateful. Could be black comedy.
@chancetheboy8487
@chancetheboy8487 24 күн бұрын
The thing is. Its such a small and nearly noticeable detail. That there really isnt an issue with it. Its an obscure sketch from the 70s. A very different time in the world. I cant actually imagine someone legitimately complaining about it as if it were an actual racist issue. Its a dalek for christ sake.
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 24 күн бұрын
Thing is, the fact that it's a Dalek is one of the main things I take issue with. It's just a clear misuse of them. The sketch could have been funny if not for the racist parts
@chancetheboy8487
@chancetheboy8487 24 күн бұрын
​@dalekbumps in today's standard. Yes this would never have been okay. But common sense should tell you that in the time period it was made, no one would bat an eye. That doesn't excuse it but, considering it's a nearly 50 year old skit. There's nothing you can do about it's existence. It's just how the times we're. And how people used the daleks outside of doctor who in media. You know that.
@gabrielho1874
@gabrielho1874 19 күн бұрын
That was suppose to be a turban?
@scottishdrunkard1845
@scottishdrunkard1845 18 күн бұрын
I think the best way to approach this racially insensitive Dalek Sketch… is to make it the joke. A followup. In which a Dalek is “Cancelled” for a racist sketch they did in the 70s. Firstly, the idea that a Genocidal Wheelie Bin would be subject to our human notions of political correctness, is funny. Secondly, it can be a piss take on outdated sketches, and jokes, and comedians. The Dalek refuses to make any introspection whatsoever. There’s a difference between making an insensitive skit “in a different time” and making an insensitive skit in a different time, but also acknowledging that it was probably a bad idea. So you have a Dalek acting defensive, echoing comedians who refuse to even acknowledge that it shouldn’t fly these days, before spouting buzzwords, complaining that our modern notions of sensitivity is “woke” and then exterminating Philip Schofield, all while trying to spin it that it’s being attacked. We can’t change the past. But we can make fun of the past in the present.
@CacoQueen
@CacoQueen 24 күн бұрын
Great video mate, love the thrown shade at John Cleese lol! As a kid i loved this sketch, the delivery of the dalek's VA and the wife frantically trying to keep everything tidy and organised was hilarious. As i grew older and properly learned the racist context behind the mockery, its became more and more painful to revisit. A dalek in an otherwise suburban environment would be hilarious, the pointless racial element just brings it down so much, and those who defend it only go to divide us more. We owe it to everyone to create more impactful humor that doesn't just rely on these lazy, centuries old stereotypes.
@zagreus4438
@zagreus4438 24 күн бұрын
Funny tho
@badwolf66
@badwolf66 24 күн бұрын
So you're saying Pakistani Daleks don't exist? That's Racist 😂 *"Put him in The Curry"*
@TomWright025
@TomWright025 24 күн бұрын
It’s comedy, it’s supposed to push the boundaries
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 24 күн бұрын
How is this sketch pushing boundaries? It's just another tonedeaf skit from the '70s
@chemi169
@chemi169 24 күн бұрын
@@dalekbumps pushing the boundaries of curry recipes
@thelicensednerd1626
@thelicensednerd1626 24 күн бұрын
It was a different era. Realistically it's an unnecessary addition to the sketch yes but it's not really the take away, Ive seen this sketch several times since i was a kid and didn't even realise it was a turban I just thought it was some debrie from when he burst through the door. 😂
@stevenmcnicoll5060
@stevenmcnicoll5060 22 күн бұрын
It is a cultural artifact of its time. We can learn a lot from it, if we stop clutching our imaginary pearls and virtue signalling. Milligan was equating the alien with immigrants. Satirising the perceived inability for racial integration to work. Enoch Powell and his infamous speech were still fresh in the memory. Comedy is not there to make you comfortable. Satire is by its nature transgressive. We got the point at the time. Context is everything.
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 22 күн бұрын
@@stevenmcnicoll5060 interesting that you simultaneously believe that we can learn a lot from the sketch, and also that we shouldn't judge its racist content. What is there to learn from this, if not that racism is stupid and pointless?
@stevenmcnicoll5060
@stevenmcnicoll5060 20 күн бұрын
@@dalekbumps I didn't say that we shouldn't judge its racist content. We can learn from it by seeing how far we've come as a society regarding cultural differences, but more importantly how far we still have to go. We are facing an upsurge of bigotry from Farage and his ilk and lets not forget Trump's MAGA movement in America. We all know racism is BAD, not merely "stupid and pointless". It was a less enlightened time and Spike was trying something that fails through the lens of today. In the context of late 1970's Britain, Spike presented his sketch and the audience laughed. In the late 1970's We still had Love Thy Neighbour on ITV and The Black and White Minstrels on BBC1 primetime don't forget. All indefensible today.
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 20 күн бұрын
@@stevenmcnicoll5060 thank you for replying, I have a better understanding of your point now.
@stevenmcnicoll5060
@stevenmcnicoll5060 20 күн бұрын
Not at all. Apologies for not being clear in the first place. I enjoy your channel very much btw. All the best.
@Toramai-pi8wx
@Toramai-pi8wx 21 күн бұрын
Ouch. I mean I could kinda get the physical comedy and that was funny but a racist element just kind of ruins and just leaves the bad taste in my mouth. Daleks are supposed to be xenophobic, but the writers are not supposed to be. Would’ve funny if he had a multi ethnic family. It would’ve been absolutely hilarious comedy because these multi ethnic people are being around xenophobic Dalek. Like an alien Archie if you will…
@countryofiremany3912
@countryofiremany3912 24 күн бұрын
I enjoyed this skit and I liked that video. Not every dalek fan can enjoy one’s company but I for one. Enjoy this. Maybe this isn’t the best for everyone and maybe you should just keep it to yourself.
@countryofiremany3912
@countryofiremany3912 24 күн бұрын
Also, by the way, if you’re gonna sit there and talk about this one, you might as well talk about the gay daleks that have a multi part series in KZfaq… hypocrite
@legobi_wan_kenobi
@legobi_wan_kenobi 24 күн бұрын
how does that make bumps a hypocrite ​@@countryofiremany3912
@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810
@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810 24 күн бұрын
Genuinely thought it was soap, ngl I used to love it as a kid/centering little git, now I find it really.... Ugh... God I wish I didn't laugh, it could have been brilliant but the whole 'Pakistani' aspect ruins it, not surprised though us Brits have always been cruel to the Pakistanis.
@officialibk8065
@officialibk8065 24 күн бұрын
Womp womp
@UwURainUwU
@UwURainUwU 24 күн бұрын
Based
@Warriorx269
@Warriorx269 20 күн бұрын
Being mainstream isn't based.
@UwURainUwU
@UwURainUwU 20 күн бұрын
@@Warriorx269 Cool, nice straw-man. How racism is bad and to argue anything else is just showing true colors.
@falke_blade9341
@falke_blade9341 24 күн бұрын
Snow flake getting butt hurt is always funny af 😂😂😂😂
@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810
@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810 24 күн бұрын
I agree, I find it funny how you have to take criticism as butthurt 😂😂😂
@morgandavies5489
@morgandavies5489 24 күн бұрын
Nah shitting on Spike Milligan is an automatic L mate
@ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575
@ireallydidntwanttomakeanac575 14 күн бұрын
"It was the '70s" Yeah, it was. It wasn't funny then, still isn't now.
@ekij133
@ekij133 24 күн бұрын
Racism is discriminating against all members of race based on unfounded prejudice. This is a (weak) stereotype of the race in question, it is not racism. If I say the French all have silly moustaches and smell of Garlic it's not racism. If I refuse to employ a French person because he has a 'silly moustache' and will probably smell of garlic, that *is* racism. Learn the difference!
@dalekbumps
@dalekbumps 24 күн бұрын
Do I really need to explain to you that the use of racial stereotyping to mock a particular group of people is racist?
@ekij133
@ekij133 24 күн бұрын
@@dalekbumps I see no mocking. You're projecting. By your argument; cannon ('normal') Daleks are racist against the British. It's OK to identify a racial trait if that racial trait is in fact accurate. It's even not a big deal to lean into it a little: "Jews are tight with money, Irish and Scottish drink a lot, English never complain, Italians are laid back and never do anything on time." but that isn't even happening here. The Dalek isn't 'mocked' for liking curry.
@KitchenSinkSoup
@KitchenSinkSoup 24 күн бұрын
@@ekij133 Perhaps someone DOES need to explain to you that the use of racial stereotyping to mock a particular group of people is racist.
@ekij133
@ekij133 24 күн бұрын
You appear to be a mono-cultureist, believing in one culture and everyone has to act the same. I am a multi-cultureist I believe in many different cultures and it’s OK for those cultures to be different and it’s OK to notice that those cultural differences. The Dalek was *not mocked* for having a turban or for eating curry. One could even argue that this sketch was ahead of its time for being “inclusive” for having the first non-European based Dalek.
@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne
@darlig.ulv.bakhjerne 24 күн бұрын
@@ekij133 what are you on about mate...
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