Glad you enjoyed and it was helpful! Thanks for watching 😊

Thank you!! 😊

Thanks! I am planning to do an SK40 vs Opus video soon 😜

Thanks!!😊

Thanks man!!! I never thoughts about the value in other markets like you’re saying. That would definitely change my perspective on some products!

Thanks!!! Unfortunately the wood lid doesn't fit well in the funnel. You have to remove the anti-popcorn insert and even then it doesn't fit snuggly down inside. You could hoverer sand down the lower inset lip of the lid to fit that way, then you could leave the bellows off but you wouldn't have the anti-popcorn insert installed. Thanks for watching my videos!!!

Thanks for watching! Unfortunately I haven’t used an ESP so I can’t give you any honest information on how this compares, sorry 😣

I haven't used one yet but I hear people like it. If I can get my hands on one I'll make a review for sure!

They're made in the same factory

I have the itop

I thought about that too but I think the adjustment may walk as it’s grinding.

That’s interesting, with this grinder I was down in the 3-6 range for espresso if memory serves. No shims or anything like that that I’m aware of and I’ve taken the grinder apart. I suppose it could be the coffee but still all the course should be really course!

@@coffeenerdaaron I’ll keep playing with different coffees and setting. I just saw the DF54 announced with flat burrs and same price range!

@@CarsTechWood yeah I saw that too! I’m curious to check one out if I get a chance.

Yes it is absolutely worth the additional money to get the DF64 Gen 2 for your needs! 😊

It’s in my list of videos to film as soon as I get a chance!

can u do it before BF sale ends haha@@coffeenerdaaron

I don’t know when the sale ends but I probably won’t get to it for a little bit with the holidays, family things, and my full time job!

@@coffeenerdaaron haha no worries man

If I can I will!! Thanks for watching 😊

Thank you for the comment and for watching. I can assure you there was absolutely no pressure from either Turin or Espresso Outlet to take down the other video. I just really felt like I didn't do a fair review based on the price point. I felt like the things I liked about the grinder and how it performs for only $200 didn't translate well in that video and it seemed like I was really hammering the nitpicky stuff harder than I should given the price point. I do feel this grinder punches above it's weight, I would say the only thing I don't know is the longevity of the motor or other internal components, time will tell there.

is 30 seconds the time that you put water through it? pulling the shot?

Welcome! He’s referring to the yield of espresso after the extraction. He put in 18g of grounds and yielded 36g of espresso within the 30sec he’s ran the extraction. Which is a classic 2:1 ratio recipe where you yield 2g of espresso for every 1g of coffee grounds. Hope that makes sense.

Hi there!! Yes like Christopher said I’m referring to the ratio of coffee to water and the amount of time on which it takes to achieve that amount of output. So for example like Christopher said I used 18gm of coffee for this shot and I was actually targeting 55gm of extracted coffee on 25-30 seconds which is a pretty standard shot time. From experience with this coffee I’ve found the best taste with it around a 1:3 ration so 1 part coffee to 3 parts water. For some coffees a bigger shot like this is beneficial but not for all. A traditional shot is closer to a 1:2 ratio or 18gm coffee to 36gm of water. You can play around with several variables including your dose (amount of coffee), your extraction amount (amount of output), the time it takes to pull the shot, pre infusion time, and pressure. When it comes to timing your shot there are a couple schools of thought, some people start timing when the first few drops fall into the cup, and some people time from the start of the water flow in their machine. You also have to factor in pre infusion time of your machine can do that. In my scenario I have my machine setup for a 7 second low pressure pre infusion, then the pump kicks on fully to ramp the pressure up to about 8 or 9bar. My machine starts timing as soon as I hit start to is incudes the pre infusion time. I hope this helps and isn’t too confusing 😀

@@coffeenerdaaron thank you so much for amazing detailed answer :) !! take great care of yourself !!! i will definitely be using these advices and play with said variables !!!

thanks as well Christopher :) !!@@christophermoralez2773

What espresso machine do you have? It could be a combination of the coffee you’re using and your espresso machine.

At the time I filmed this they were $199, price must have gone up!

@@coffeenerdaaron woooow that’s dirty. I just ordered one then noticed everyone saying $199 and I’m like wtf I just paid $220 “on sale”

Still totally worth it at $220!

@@coffeenerdaaron any other recommendations? That kind of business doesn’t vibe with me

I wouldn’t say it’s bad business, they were a little cheaper when they first came out, like an early sale price.

I respectfully disagree. Owning a mistake earns my respect because it’s a show of humility.

I respect your viewpoint but neither Turin nor Espresso Outlet asked me to take the video down. That was my decision based on me feeling like I didn't do a fair review of the grinder based on it's price point.

You did this before ( bomber tools i think) and yeah the first time you were negative and could have constructed it more vaguely i guess. We know you need smth to review and very negative comments will hurt you. Keep it kinda vague then, and im sure we can read between the lines.. Bear ive seen would tell that sk and sd are worse than better grinders and you can always imply what real pro and cons to tell, and be objective at the same time. I agree with Mike here too, and you can take the critisism as you like..

@Hemshemsems this is the first time I’ve ever redone a review of a product so I’m not sure what you’re referring to.

​@@coffeenerdaaron You posted a comment on the products later, and not that the vid that was taken down. But i feel the same thing happened here. But i might have got this wrong then.. But either way, we like honest criticism and the more on point the better for better or worse.

I bothered with it because not everyone can afford those grinders and some people prefer conical burrs, coffee is a subjective and a personal preference thing. Also I have a lot of grinders including several 64mm flats up to the 98mm’s in the EK43. I do these reviews so people who are in different budgets and have different preferences get some info that may help them before they spend their money.

Turin™ DF64 Gen $349.00 expensive?@@coffeenerdaaron

Go away man