A Canticle for Leibowitz - Dystopias and Apocalypses - Extra Sci Fi
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5 жыл бұрынA Canticle for Leibowitz is a book about cycles and violence--about the cost of progress. But it is also about the persistence of humanity's quest for knowledge and endless resilience. Unlike other post-apocalyptic fiction tropes, it is focused on the lives and goings of everyday people, rather than on the setting itself, and is a critical work to study if you want to understand the post-apocalyptic genre better.
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@extrahistory 5 жыл бұрын
Inspired by his own experience being part of the bombing campaign that leveled the ancient monastery of Monte Cassino during World War 2. and the fear of nuclear annihilation that gripped America during the Cold War, Walter M. Miller Jr. imagined the world in a brand new dark age, ushered in by the hubris of humankind--in the only novel he ever published.
@pepitocuentos5276 5 жыл бұрын
Extra Credits more history please I am a history nerd
@sethleoric2598 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my God finally something where religion is good
@Coty_20 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, there is a grafic novel from Argentina call "El Eternauta" thats another post apocaliptic "novel" that i think ir will be good yo ser un this section. PD. Sorry for the vas writing my narices language is spanish.
@VonGuildehaus 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I have been hoping that you would do this video in the future and you’ve turned my whole day around! Thank you for listening!
@Ivar2x4 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I'm really loving this series, keep up the great work! Do you have a recommended reading list posted anywhere?
@PhauxTheFox 4 жыл бұрын
"everyone knows how to make another human, but the secrets to making a P94 plasma rifle are all but lost." - Brotherhood of Steel
@OGDoomGuy 5 ай бұрын
It’s all good just go find a vendor and they got plenty in stock at least…in fallout 4
@inzyniertv9305 3 ай бұрын
@@OGDoomGuyThe P94 isnt really a rifle its a heavy plasma gun also known as a plasma caster
@OGDoomGuy 3 ай бұрын
@@inzyniertv9305 Oh Gunners then
@inzyniertv9305 2 ай бұрын
@@OGDoomGuy Not even them have it, mostly the Enclave
@OGDoomGuy 2 ай бұрын
@@inzyniertv9305 Depends on what level and if the Enclave are around
@RedOblivion7 5 жыл бұрын
It's quite refreshing to see religion in a science fiction being used like this. Reminds me of what the monasteries in our own time had to do after the Fall of Rome, preserve knowledge.
@lucidnonsense942 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't though, the monasteries became important after the reconquista, for translating and copying classical works that were preserved by Islamic scholars. Until then, they pretty much just copied Christian tracks.
@sarasamaletdin4574 5 жыл бұрын
Lucid, you are wrong, the monasteries and nunneries copied the works of antiquity constantly since the Fall of the West and not just Christian works. Just because the Islamic world and Byzantine Empire did still have other records does not make this any less true. And people in Middle Ages had much richer understanding of ancient world many people understand.
@SonofSethoitae 5 жыл бұрын
@@sarasamaletdin4574 People tend to think of Medieval peoples as backward idiots with no understanding of anything, but the truth is so much more complex than that. And interesting.
@Inoka01 5 жыл бұрын
@@sarasamaletdin4574 Exactly. The rediscovery of the Classics within monasteries was the fuel for the early Renaissance; exactly paralleled by Miller in Canticle.
@g-money9009 Жыл бұрын
I'm taking a course on early medieval history and we're reading this book to show how media has made that same connection and whether or not it is fully true
@gordongraham2064 5 жыл бұрын
You guys, this book is SO GOOD. One thing I've got to impress on people is that it's surprisingly funny, and the characters bounce off one another in fun ways. In particular I like the contrasts of the three Abbots we see across the segments.
@rohanmoore7546 4 жыл бұрын
Funny seeing you here!
@jamesmcclure3907 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised that I found a laugh on almost every page…truly a standout gem in the genre
@jesseberg3271 3 ай бұрын
"Forgive me father, I ate a lizard."
@timurtheterrible4062 5 жыл бұрын
Props to them for copying the Minecraft guide. The art of redstone shall not be lost
@nanda_gamedev 5 жыл бұрын
The Redstone Clock keeps ticking...
@atticusbeachy3707 5 жыл бұрын
Just curious, why would you use the symbol of an ideology that killed 90 million people as your profile pic?
@The360MlgNoscoper 4 жыл бұрын
@@atticusbeachy3707 it's a meme
@coby4480 4 жыл бұрын
Atticus Beachy Uh oh BOOMER ALERT BOOMER ALERT
@adem9599 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@LogicalMan6 5 жыл бұрын
This is a pleasant surprise, not enough people know of this story.
@brupendragon 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated dystopias, a true masterpiece overshadowed by 1984 and Brave New World. Miller’s story is also worth telling. This is my favourite book ever. Congrats on your initiative!
@crashstudi0s 5 жыл бұрын
I must admit, i screamed like a child when i saw you made a video on this. Truly a master piece, and a book you must read to have a better view in postapocaliptyc genre
@christopherbacon1077 4 жыл бұрын
No mention of the books oddest and, to me at least, most memorable character, the (probably) Wandering Jew?
@K5RTO 3 ай бұрын
relevant
@Speederzzz Ай бұрын
The man who took the entire nation of Israel upon himself
@SgtCandy 5 жыл бұрын
Woohoo! I've been waiting for this one. "Perdition! Progress! Perdition! Progress!"
@GrumpyMcfart 5 жыл бұрын
This has been in my "to read" pile since I played fallout 1. I sometimes use that pile as a support beam.
@DwarfDaddy 5 жыл бұрын
You too? I got enough piles to make a scale parthenon
@loadeddice4696 Жыл бұрын
Another 3 years on, is the "to read" pile any smaller? Or rather, how much bigger is it now?
@GrumpyMcfart Жыл бұрын
@@loadeddice4696 * manic laughter that dissolves into sobbing *
@OGDoomGuy 5 ай бұрын
List your apocalypse books since you played fallout - The Book on this video - The Road (prepare to be horrified) - The Postman (For me it was the Movie then I found the audiobook, I definitely love the book more) -
@merrittanimation7721 5 жыл бұрын
A spiritu fornicationis Domine, libera nos From the Lightning and the Tempest Oh Lord, deliver us From the scourge of the earthquake Oh Lord, deliver us From plague, famine, and war Oh Lord deliver us From the place of ground zero Oh Lord deliver us From the rain of the cobalt Oh Lord deliver us From the rain of the strontium Oh Lord deliver us From the fall of the cesium Oh Lord deliver us From the curse of the Fallout Oh Lord deliver us From the begetting of monsters Oh Lord deliver us From the curse of the Misborn Oh Lord deliver us A morte perpetua Domine, libera nos Peccatores te rogamus, audi nos, That thou wouldnst spare us We beseech thee, hear us That thou wouldnst pardon us We beseech thee, hear us That thou wouldnst bring us truly to penance te rogamus, audi nos.
@elgostine 5 жыл бұрын
amen
@davehall4343 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@turquoisity6555 4 жыл бұрын
Amen
@TiroDvD 4 жыл бұрын
And then you read the actual Litany of the Saints and there is a section just like this.
@lordgeneralmilitantdeezy7550 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@duckrutt 5 жыл бұрын
Forgive me Father. I ate a lizard.
@samcavanagh7993 4 жыл бұрын
natural or prepared?
@samcavanagh7993 2 жыл бұрын
@Skelley-Priest I was quoting the book too
@meta5273 Ай бұрын
I laughed so hard I just read this part 10 mins ago
@kutaybr 3 жыл бұрын
That was by far the most impressive book I've ever read. I wish he wrote more.
@michaelcaggiano3033 5 жыл бұрын
Gosh, imagine not covering the book's robust Catholic meaning. It's like that Disney Tolkein theme that just misses the most important thing the author wants to impart on the reader.
@TiroDvD 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I use this in my classes. The book provides excellent discourses on the actual theological ideas of miracles, original sin, and lukewarmness. I.e. miracles are to show God's presence not breaking the laws of nature. As Man strive to recreate metaphorical Eden with modern comforts they just hit the uncanny valley and see all the missing things; therefore smash everything. And how "Comfort" from the "Mercy Camps" is a horrible portrayal of Jesus the Christus.
@eap96 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man I didn't think they would feature this book. One of my favs!
@BothHands1 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this sounds like an amazing book Thanks for the recommendation, and the insights into its message. Absolutely love this vid
@TheJboy88 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of those times I used to hear about how monks used to be the only ones capable of writing books, and how they'd have to painstakingly recreate every page by hand. Nothing but props to those kinds of guys back then :)
@davidcollier2500 Жыл бұрын
I just finished this book and wow. I feel like I'm going to have to sit with it for a while to unpack it. Thanks for recommending this book!
@RMoribayashi 5 жыл бұрын
If this reminds you Babylon 5 fans of the Abby segment of The Deconstruction of Falling Stars, good catch. JMR got about halfway through the segment and went "Oh Sh!#" this is Liebowitz. After realizing just how many have followed that road, (even bits of Asimov's Foundation series), he then finished writing the scene.
@offduty23 5 жыл бұрын
This, and Asimov's foundation series, are my two favorite Science Fiction novels, and this one tanks in my top ten "must read" stories.
@1987MartinT 5 жыл бұрын
6:24-6:33 I'd say that both of those are equally true and realistic. Sometimes changing the world takes a group effort by many people. Sometimes it takes an individual or a small group.
@Triviata84 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering this book! Such a great novel - a fascinating use of monastic practice and faith in the post-apocalyptic landscape, and definitely a must-read in terms of the sci-fi canon.
@Erik_Armando_123 5 жыл бұрын
Guys, your videos are so addictive! I really enjoy them and watch them more than once!
@barrybend7189 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you get into Japanese Sci-fi and Cyberpunk.
@wheretowatch5568 5 жыл бұрын
@@jens6851 ghost in the shell, Akira, etc.
@sebastiannawara5943 5 жыл бұрын
@@wheretowatch5568 Or Girls' Last Tour
@BothHands1 5 жыл бұрын
Where To Watch Serial Experiments Lain, and Texhnolyze You'll like them if you like Akira and GitS
@lemmingrad 5 жыл бұрын
Likely though, they’ll do William Gibson’s Neuromancer and its influences on anime like Ghost in the Shell. Gibson is also important for also coining Cyberspace in the short story, Burning Chrome.
@jeanbonnefoy1377 5 жыл бұрын
One of my fav sci-fi books, on a par with Clifford D. Simak's 'Cities', another very similar story of a long past era worth being revived out of the ashes (in one case, revived by monks, in the other one by dogs)...
@wk3820 5 жыл бұрын
I love Simak, and City is one of his best. I keep a copy on my bookcase. Another novel that was very Simak-like was The Long Tomorrow by Leigh Brackett. She normally wrote space opera, crime novels and screenplays, but this stands out as her best novel.
@Donleecartoons Ай бұрын
Need to read this again. What stuck with me from the last time I read it was the monks' understanding, building over generations, of what they were copying. That and the holy significance attached to what was essentially the contents of an abandoned lunchbox. Makes you wonder about our contemporary understanding of what went before us.
@MWhaleK 5 жыл бұрын
The thing about the historical Dark Ages (that we know of) is that they weren't all THAT dark and human kind continued to advance. Further the "Dark Age" that followed the fall of Rome as only "Dark" in Western Europe.
@lucaswatson1913 5 жыл бұрын
The idea of the dark ages is so Christian-Eurocentric
@GaborSzabo747 5 жыл бұрын
It's dark because a lot of things happened, and we know little about them. Tho' the official term is Early Medieval Period, or Early Middle Ages.
@RifleEyez 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucaswatson1913 And what country were you born and live in?
@lucaswatson1913 2 жыл бұрын
@@RifleEyez Great Britain
@raybarron316 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Sci Fi books of all time. thanks!
@davehall4343 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite book read many times since the 70's. Brother Francis pray for us!
@moonscore 4 жыл бұрын
A remarkable work. One of my favorites.
@Dr3adn0ught35818 5 жыл бұрын
Please make sure Ursula K. Le Guin's "The Left Hand of Darkness" is on your to-do list!
@lucaswatson1913 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! So good
@messofgeckos5524 2 жыл бұрын
Le Guin's Darkness, truly a unique take on the future. loved it.
@pant0sand0hat 5 жыл бұрын
Excited for this. Thank you!
@ngoziharrison7002 5 жыл бұрын
An amazing book, one of the most underrated sci fi classics
@carolfirst9195 5 жыл бұрын
always fun to learn from you guys!
@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts 2 жыл бұрын
If you're a fan of the Fallout series, then you HAVE to be read this book. The creators of that game were heavily inspired by this novel, and factions like The Followers of the Apocalypse and the Brotherhood of Steel are directly inspired by the activities of the monks. It's also where Fallout gets a lot of its goofy humor.
@JoshSweetvale Жыл бұрын
Wasteland 1. All Fallout did was steal.
@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts Жыл бұрын
@@JoshSweetvale Nope. Wasteland 1 was extremely bland compared to Fallout.
@yernoi2167 5 жыл бұрын
yassssss i love this channel you guys should post more often
@MagisterCobb 5 жыл бұрын
A very compelling video, the book has been added to my reading list.
@Sara3346 5 жыл бұрын
AW HECK YES, you guys talk about the best books that get neglected.
@TiroDvD 4 жыл бұрын
"I ate the lizard."
@jjfoerch 5 жыл бұрын
Such a good book, but don't forget Saint Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Women, published post-mortem, also excellent, though slower paced than Canticle. (And at 5:03 did you mean "anachronism"?)
@vazak11 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing!
@ramiromen6595 5 жыл бұрын
My favourite sci fi/post apocalitpic media! Thanks!
@markadams7046 3 жыл бұрын
Much of the classical world that was relearned during the Renaissance was from classical works that were preserved in monasteries.
@GabrielRicardoFreeman-Gabe 5 жыл бұрын
So glad to see A Canticle for Leibowitz get its due!
@Frank-zs1wk 5 жыл бұрын
wonderful book, truly amazing!
@roguepawn8963 5 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this story!
@robdisner Жыл бұрын
Read this in high school. And then many times since. Might be time for another go at it!
@sirsquidly3537 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I might actually need to give this a read, certainly one of the more creative types of post apocalyptic fiction i've ever heard of!
@Helpful_Corn 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore that book!
@bowl-of-petunias5671 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd do a canticle for leibowitz soon! Such a favorite of mine.
@MrDevling 5 жыл бұрын
There are two kinds of scientific progress: the methodical experimentation and categorization which gradually extend the boundaries of knowledge, and the revolutionary leap of genius which redefines and transcends those boundaries. Acknowledging our debt to the former, we yearn, nonetheless, for the latter. -- Academician Prokhor Zakharov
@venmis137 3 жыл бұрын
I hope we never reach the point where such a monastic institution becomes necessary, but I fear that we may rapidly be approaching such a scenario. I hope we are smarter and more resilient than that.
@kaelaleedaley 5 жыл бұрын
I love this Dystopian series!
@jedidalek 4 жыл бұрын
Bought this after your video. Amazing book thanks.
@anobody6234 5 жыл бұрын
This is literally my favorite book of all time
@elimccuskey1809 5 жыл бұрын
1:35 He has three hands!
@user-th6tc5un1s 4 жыл бұрын
That pesky Fallout will do a number on you!
@Oppenheimer1702 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished this book. What an amazing read!!!!
@TedSeeber 5 жыл бұрын
And if you like this one, you really need to read Lord of the World by Robert Hughes Benson
@d3251704 Жыл бұрын
I’ve probably read this book 10 times. It just gets better with each read.
@carterl369 2 жыл бұрын
Legitimately my favorite book!
@petersattler4577 5 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite book, I love the cyclical nature and the writing style
@ourtube4266 5 жыл бұрын
My steam name is Rain of Cobalt because of this novel, I’ve read it 3 times and discovered something new every read through
@curiousworld7912 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best.
@Numba003 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man this is one of my favorite books!
@benjaminnelson5455 5 жыл бұрын
How much did this inspire the Galactica reboot, I wonder? "All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again."
@csodhi9969 5 жыл бұрын
Pure awesomeness... Is, of course, the name of a futuristic book about the dystopian future that awaits us in a world devoted to maximizing awesomeness!
@humanharddrive1 2 ай бұрын
i really liked the illustrations in this video
@CaptApril123 3 жыл бұрын
That reminded me, i've got to hit the grocery store today.. must make a list.
@dushmanmardom 5 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking if there is some good talk about Canticle on KZfaq and bang! EC to the rescue!
@tiplady44 4 жыл бұрын
One of the great sci fi stories
@TomLeg 5 жыл бұрын
One of the few books I've keep decade after decade, move after move.
@Mr.Beauregarde 5 жыл бұрын
Love this book
@jeffthomas601 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing book, highly recommended. And, I see what you did there with the Monty Python & The Holy Grail monks at 2:43
@bobzar77 5 жыл бұрын
Good Job. This book needs more promo.
@jameswatrous2109 5 жыл бұрын
Good synopsis of the novel and its literary and philosophical themes.
@jameswatrous2109 3 жыл бұрын
Good analysis of Walter Miller's classic novel.
@AnimeAngel88 5 жыл бұрын
I've never even heard of this book. Now I'm curious.
@jburns272 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was hoping you'd do this book. It's one of my favorites.
@Tomes23 3 жыл бұрын
This was an optional book to read in one of my history classes. I bought it because it was thinner than some of the other ones. It was a good read. All of these years later I still remember it.
@messofgeckos5524 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the test of a great book? Remembering it years later?
@kehribar1599 5 жыл бұрын
Best sci-fi book ever
@b.delacroix7592 5 жыл бұрын
OOh, I was hoping you all would do this one. Let there be blood, iron and weeping.
@patrickflanary8195 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video on Pat Frank's "Alas Babylon ", please.
@deaconlasagna8570 5 жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO CITY! Clifford D. Simak deserves the recognition, and it's actually several dystopian/post apocalypse stories nested inside a framing device that is itself one of the greatest post apocalyptic stories ever. Whenever i even think about the dogs and Jenkins for too long i start to weep. You guys have a lot of reach, help this book gain it's classic status.
@nikkireborn5923 5 жыл бұрын
Good good reading...
@BarbarosaAlexander 5 жыл бұрын
Have you guys put together a bibliography or recommended reading guide for this series? That would be brilliant.
@corwin32 5 жыл бұрын
My single favorite novel of all time
@roflcopterIII 5 жыл бұрын
Yo can yall do left hand of darkness, since you're covering sci fi canon pieces.
@lyreparadox 5 жыл бұрын
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@marconatrix 4 жыл бұрын
Love to see your take on Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land" sometime.
@dylanchouinard6141 5 жыл бұрын
A new video! Saint Leibowitz be praised!
@mathieuleader8601 5 жыл бұрын
my great-uncle Leslie was at the battle of Casino
@riggedmint 4 жыл бұрын
People should know that Texarkana is a major city and a capital in this novel.
@Villanuevac4 5 жыл бұрын
You guys need to make an Extra Sci-Fi video on Command and Conquer?
@sethleoric2598 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds good
@Hawkwind-sx6by 5 жыл бұрын
This book is an interesting read both by itself and with Mary Doria Russell's The Sparrow.
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 5 жыл бұрын
Do one about the classical Fallout games. They are spectacular in terms of themes and writing.
@tiscotisa9731 5 жыл бұрын
After the End, an game mod, is inspired by this book.
@HiveFleetUlfang1 5 жыл бұрын
Any plans to do A Boy and His Dog or I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison?
@JohnVance 5 жыл бұрын
Man I hope you folks do one on Accelerando.
@chesthoIe 4 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing book. The full cast free audiobook is here: www.oldradioworld.com/shows/A_Canticle_for_Liebowitz.php
@greyareaRK1 5 жыл бұрын
Curious about your take on the Culture series by Ian M. Banks?
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