This is exactly how we pored my floor for my two story shed floor with a big mud drain for my Snap On Tool Truck with plenty of storage for extra tool boxes plus I fixed my walls to be waterproof so I could wash my truck in the winter. When my wife came in with her storage stuff I pointed to the second floor.

We did our 40x60 pole barn floor without the wall metal on. Had the roof on. We did 12w 13ft tall doors so concrete trucks could drive right in and chute it. No radiant heat plumbing to worry about. Nice and easy to finish edges from outside while power trowel does the rest. Nice video

Thanks for sharing! There’s so much to concrete- thanks for educating us.

Love the banter! Great crew

That is going to be a sweet workshop, thank you for sharing!

Professionals always make the really hard jobs look easy. You guys are awesome!

Nice work. Glad to see a crew that has fun working together.

We build pole barns in central New York, I always pour before the steel goes on,saves a lot of work like you said

You guys really do incredible work. My back hurts watching it.

I like how you get excited when the truck shows up lol.

Looks great guys!!! A GREAT finisher always is one handed and a cool beverage in the other for that super smoooooth job..

Turned out great!

Wish that barn was in my yard. Nice job as always

Another good job

Nice job y'all did there keep up with the good work ur doing and the videos to be safe and be careful

Good information. It is important to have all the trades involved in a project before it starts. I built my first new home in 1978, (I thought I knew what i was doing). Did a lot of work myself, but subbed out the HVAC, plumbing and electrical. The heating guy said he had to come in first, and I believed him. The house was a rectangle, he put the furnace a few feet from the basement wall and ran the heat and return ducts a few inches apart from one end of the hose to the other. The plumber was very unhappy and I had to pay more. The heating guy had run the ducts under the toilet and other fixtures. Now when I build I have all the trades people come about the same time for an estimate or bid. I then have them get each others phone numbers and tell them to communicate with each other on areas of concern.

great video bondo

Lost my Dad in January, he was a finisher for 40 years....

_GOOD JOB BIG BISKET _ don't drip water on it! Effervescence! Nice work, BTW great job explaining everything. You hit every point down to the cleaning the blades b4 your last 2 passes

Rap the bottom of the posts with felt, Looks great!

good work.

this is the right way to do it. so many benefits.👍

Got too have a good crew to get things done 👍👏

Nice job on this pour. You have a good team who knows what they are doing. I missed hearing the "bleeps" where they should have been.

Nice !!!! Commentary reminds of Red Green...

Nice job Bondo

I’ve just decided to build a 40x60 poll barn. It’s awesome that guys like you have posted all these videos, so a newbie like me can see the process. Do you have any suggestions on how to find the cement crew like yours?

Love the quick pitch handle on the power trowel

Done playing this game!! Pour the slab 1st & then build of it. Better for everyone!!

Here in the UK, its quite common to use a pan, { which just clips to the blades ] for the first pass. It makes flattening any bull float marks a lot easier, as you can get on the concrete a little earlier, without the risk of digging in. It also helps settle the stones and brings fat to the surface like a wooden, or plastic float does. I have not seen anyone in the states using one, are they common over there, or not used?

I've done it like that before makes life easier to finish

Nice

We have done exactly that way with pole barns

We always put air pressure (test) with guages on each heat zone when we pour. If there's a puncture or leak in any line while pouring, there won't ever be a better or easier time to find out and repair it

Good way of doing it 👍👍👍🇬🇧uk

👍🏼 as long as the builders know the weight limit because fork lift/manlift is needed inside for running conduit and lighting and bummer to crack a line. while back i helped build 60x100 and office space was in floor heating. drive anything industrial hvy duty and look for water leaks.👍🏼 Good Luck

The last 3 barns we did they came out of the ground with pressure treated about 6 foot and then we poured the floor then after they built the building using a staggered joint and using ruff cut lumber from there up saved us time and them money on 20 foot pt 6x6 the builder sed it was easier to work on a concrete then dirt

You just answered the question on my mind: how is it that the wire mesh is sitting on the foam insulation? I guess is a good trade off.

I wish I could cancel the rain :) Good information as always. My wife even watched it! I could never understand why you needed insulation under the in floor heat. Doesn't heat rise? Two new houses were built near each other by the same home owner. The first one had 2" of foam under the slab, he lived in it for a few years and sold it. He tracked his expenses very well. The second one he built was with no insulation under the slab, other than that the two houses were the same. His heating bills were within a very few dollars of each other on the two houses. He said he didn't need insulation under the slab on the second house was that it was a well drained soil. If the soil is not well drained the moisture under the slab can conduct or carry the heat away, Most of the houses we do have 8" of radon rock with draintile under the slab, so a person could save on the insulation.

That bull floater is a potty mouth . Looks real professional in front of customers

hey bondo , on that job would be cool to show the different heights with the lazor to show the slope after you were done, just an idea , good looking floor by the way

It’s been my experience to pour the slab first then build the structure.

Some counties require the barn to be finished & inspected prior to the floor pour or it will be taxed differently.

Didn't notice, do you use float blades at the beginning?

If you didn't have a pump, what was the hose hooked to when you were pouring the right side of the building.

It's the only way we ever did concrete.most of the time as soon as the poles were set before the roof we poured. Just after headers n lower boards were on so nothing moved.

Not one stop was the mex pulled up 😂😅

As the floor continues to cure…the pattern will shrink little bit into the floor so in like a week it will look even better. IMO

You know mike is a concrete guy with his cooler of "pepsi"

Unfortunately that wire mesh needs to be up in the pour not at the bottom. The mesh at the bottom is a waste of money.

We use a floating pan first then hit it with the blades but that machine looks a little small for that job

You can remove standing water with a shop vac way faster than with a leaf blower... LOL

Where do you buy your buy your pex pipe getting ready to build 40 x 60 building thanks mike

been at it about 40 years worth of pouring. never did a barn with sides on it unless we had a pump. front load trucks only. rarely ever used the float on a floor. to much downtime waiting for the set. get on it with a couple guys knowing what they're doing, and out there in a couple hours after the pour. not waiting a couple hours set time to get on it. not bragging, we put down 900 yrds in one pour with 6 guys. 4" floor, commercial structure with hand finish......8 hours total time. came back on the job 2 days later and cut it by code.

Hi Ron. Do you have any issues with pouring concrete over a spray on insulation base. I heard once of a builder whose only complaint was it made it hard to estimate quantity which I thought was a poor excuse as it really didn't look all that bad.

Who do you guys use for concrete out where you were at?

Nice to see pros pour concrete a little stiffer than normal. Seems like too many pour it self leveling I always question how that effects strength. Where in. Ny are you? Been nice if he had left lowest purlin off. Cost with out concrete?

The wire mesh should at least be pulled up with hooks as the concrete is poured. Properly placed wire mesh holds a slab of dried concrete together, even if the ground underneath settles slightly. Fiberglass strands mainly help keep cracking to a minimum the first few hours of the concrete changing from liquid form to a hard state. After that the fiberglass provides little value in the strength of cured concrete. Also a lot will have to do with how heavy of equipment will be run on the concrete. I did mine with 1/2 inch rebar crisscrossed on 2 ft. centers set on chairs, then wire mesh on top of that with a 7 inch thick pour. Probably overkill on my part but hey!

I you gotta get these videos uploaded in 1080p or 4k.

No steel reinforcement used ?

What time did it take to pour and surface?

Did you still use a metal mesh under the tubing there?

Hey guys, nice job on the floor. Are you trolling with float blades for your final pass?

what was the difference again? no rebar?

🙋🏼‍♂️ who is pulling up the wire mesh ?

super pour..im jealous.except for you guys talking funny like youre from another country,its all good! we Missourians dont sound like this

Bondo, do you pull up the rebar/mesh/tubing while pouring? I am setting up to do a 4' slab with radiant heat, if i pull up the mesh I am afraid of cutting the joints and hitting a water line.

How thick is the insulation under the slab and how deep is it around the perimeter

The mesh is at the bottom with no undercover, sould be around 50mm in the slab.

I've seen foundations and floors for pole barns poured before any framing was done at all. Nothing at all in the way for the concrete pour, tubing in place, and brackets for the poles placed wet.

so was this pad without insulation board? I'm trying to make a case to myself not to do the insulation under the slab.

We use Zip Strips for crack control in all our floors. Done in one day . That way you can pull mesh.

Also nice job of stopping just right with power trowles. Alot of guys go alittle too far

If l can ever afford a man cave this size I'll give you a call since your in my Palermo area.

Was the mesh on chairs to hold it up?

Looks like Mike's drinking a beer. Do you have insurance and workers comp???

8:13 Lmfao :D

what is the price for a pour like this?

Hey Ron how long did you make each run of the radiant heat runs

Nice shirt, *TRUST ME I KNOW* 20 FOOT BOARD WILL MAKE A MAN OUT OF U! HE CAN KEEP THAT STICK, IM GOOD W THE 16 _LOL_ great idea though! I've used em just don't like em!

Bondo, I wonder the cost of such a nice floor. I am considering a floor for my barn.

How many hours of blowing water around. Charge extra? Why no wet/dry vac? Sump pump? Bill 8 hours for a guy to hold a leaf blower......

I don't really understand what good the wire mesh will have if it isn't embedded closer to the center of the slab.

You didn't pull up the reinforcing wire? Why.

I need a shirt that said i dont get enough credit for doing this drunk. LoL

Put handles on the screed and save a guy. Easier and faster to have just one guy cut the floor.

Left the steel off for the pour

You did the floor before the walls were up. At 7:25 don't bend the shuts with your head "LOL"

Why use mesh if it’s just going to lay on the bottom

What kind of fiberglass fibers did you use?

Try spraying WD40 all over your trowels before you start that way it cleans Easyer and your finish had a lot of cat eyes in it, stand your blade up more and keep trowel till it shines unless they didn’t want a shinny finish but yes we normal have the builder leave off the metal.

How far down is the drain set?

No steel??

what would be a ball park estimate cost for this? is it like 20 grand? ?

How expensive. Looks like a really thick slab

6:25 the trick is NO SIDING ON BUILDING

givin sh.t to each other its what is all about:)

You said you recommend flooding it, what's the reasoning for that?

Bondo…. I told my wife that I wanted to be cremated. She made an appointment for next Tuesday! Looks good. Another Quality Bondo Production. Did you get a n power trowel?

Unless I’m calculating wrong @4 inches it should have been 28 yards