A disappointment and a possible switch (Yonex Percept Review part 2)

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8 ай бұрын

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@ProfDrTeomanCemKadioglu 8 ай бұрын

I think less than 5% of club level players customize their rackets but reviewers are over emphasizing customization.

@lorenischangstonhughes 8 ай бұрын

certain reviewers have their certain preferences and this case they like the older models due to the weight as this is liked by more traditional high weight players with low sping but big plow through. nowadays these racquets can still produce bigger shots and faster swings so these reviewers should be taken with a grain of salt. they will offer valuable input but you won't truly know if you will like the product if you are fortunate enough to demo one or have people around you who have access to new racquets.

@DeAlexon12 8 ай бұрын

I completely agree, not sure how true it is but i feel like if you have to customize it then you might as well go for a different racket! (unless you really like the design)

@gab_ale 8 ай бұрын

@@DeAlexon12 Customizing is a personal preference. One can turn a good racquet into an almost perfect racquet.

@charlesfaure1189 8 ай бұрын

95% of club level players probably wouldn't benefit much because their technique is poor. Late shoulder turns, poor footwork, bad base, poor lag. With better technique small changes become more noticeable b/c acceleration rate is critical.

@avfreakfreak 8 ай бұрын

@@charlesfaure1189 True. Most club players do not have proper tennis strokes, tennis form and tennis footwork. They make use of light & stiff racquets and trampoline effect (easy power, easy spin, late preparation, lazy feet and motion). Proper body motion (re: tennis) and kinetic chain leading to RHS (Racquet Head Speed) is unfamiliar to them as they do not have the proper tennis strokes, tennis form and tennis footwork 😂😂

@jorgeandrescoppiano.5715 8 ай бұрын

Greaat review Jon and Nikki! Looking fw for the D versions reviews. God bless guys

@primalplay4465 8 ай бұрын

Since it's their control line I would've named it Yonex "XACT" as in Exact control.

@kylegary6311 8 ай бұрын

That's actually a pretty nice name

@Nopanop 8 ай бұрын

I own a Yonex vcore pro and I feel the same ... That I can XACTLY place the ball where I want on ez shots

@wagjkproduction755 8 ай бұрын

nice review! got a few vcore pro 100s myself, thinking if it's worth an upgrade to the new one, guess I'm holding off based on nikki's words. looking forward to that comparison vid!

@vwmusicplaylist1935 8 ай бұрын

Nikki is an excellent reviewers. Gets straight to the point and BS free.

@Nopanop 8 ай бұрын

I agree

@experientialtennis 8 ай бұрын

in Nikki we trust!

@redspotaquashrimps 8 ай бұрын

Great honest review!! This is happen to all new Modern incoming racquets, muted Feel, Dampening, No Pop and too Soft not solid. I'm also NOT a fan of their new paint job, I think it's a boring Green blank. I always prefer Dark Black with some green like Best Wilson Blade BLX V5 with black Glossy Paint ever made. No muted feel, very solid racquet till nowadays.

@flooronthewall 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the review! How would you compare Percept 100 to Head Speed MP? On paper they seem to have a lot of similarities.

@alcool3131 8 ай бұрын

This is the review I need, now waiting for your comparison between 100 and 100D. Still deciding between these two. Looking for a replacement for my Blade 100 v8.

@frisbeeonmars 8 ай бұрын

@Tennisnerd - What would be your preference and how would you compare the Percept 100 with the Ezone 100 and Wilson Blade 100?

@Red_Horizon 8 ай бұрын

I've playing a lot on my 2022 ezone 98. Got the Percept 100D recently. Strung with Hyper G at 50lbs. For me, it's a bit low power racket due to low swing weight i guess. It can be good and bad thing. It definitely has a lot of control in it. It also a good spin racket even has dense 18x19. Great for kick and slice serve. Volley is decent. Stability is quite OK not so great. I would use this racket for recreationally evening fun play. If I'm facing a good/tough/aggresive opponent i would definitely pick my ezone 98

@johnnacke4134 8 ай бұрын

Jonas , How does the Percept compare to the Shift 300, and what strings did (would) you use? ciao, John

@HankHell41 8 ай бұрын

I thought Yonex was supposed to be the QC king! Also, you said that ezone and vcore are no longer being made? Interesting that they don't make v1 thru v99 like Wilson haha. I kind of like it though. So many wilson versions almost implies that there's always something wrong with the previous version

@mistergosususage 7 ай бұрын

Hi! do you feel theres noticeable difference between percept 100 and the last vcore pro 100?? are they the same racket different paintjob? thanks!

@twobeer3945 3 ай бұрын

I tested the Percept 97 and I felt it is a wonderful racket! For sure it is a control racket, but you can easily strike through the ball, it is stable, spinfriendly, you can create power and you have great a touch with it. I think Yonex made a superb job with this one!

@LongusMis 8 ай бұрын

Pity, I was hoping to hear a review of the 97D. Am using them now (dark green versions) but the new ones appear to have a bit more power and feel.

@DanTheMan1610 8 ай бұрын

What was the swingweight on your Percept 100? Thank you

@brunoalves3736 8 ай бұрын

I bought 2 100Ds they could not be more on point with the QC, perfect specs

@akbarberlian 8 ай бұрын

What do you like about 100D? ( I use tour 100p)

@brunoalves3736 8 ай бұрын

@@akbarberlian hey, I cant really compare to your racket. But I previously played with the Vcore pro 100. I found the percept 100 to be extremely similar to the vcore pro 100. The 100D offers a lower launch angle, more stability, depth control, but in a similar feel and SW than the 100. For me it gave me some aditional control I was looking for without giving up much, so worth the upgrade!

@gregglegend Ай бұрын

I really liked the 97 out of the box. What does that mean re: my technique, liking a racquet that is low swing weight ?

@kieransmith6533 8 ай бұрын

I’m not sure on tenniswarehouse averages, I’ve never seen a Yonex racquet above the average nor on their spec, only majorly below

@YehShano 6 ай бұрын

That guy has beautiful technique on those groundies👍👍

@rutan4000 8 ай бұрын

Seems like their QC went from bad to worse. That is 3 series of rackets since 2021 that have had poor QC on their swing weights. First the 2021 Vcore series, then the 2021 Vcore Pro series and now this 2023 Percept series. Granted it is probably the most difficult metric to get down, I'm still appalled at how far off they were on that Percept 97. A strung swing weight of 303 is ridiculous for a control frame.

@FMPcLarKy 8 ай бұрын

I had the exact same feeling when demoing the 97.

@TomSmith-il6pz 8 ай бұрын

Nice! Where would you recommend placing lead on the 97? 3&9 or 3,9 and 12?

@andrewpotash3300 8 ай бұрын

I've added weight to my old VCP97 around 1030+130 (thereabouts) - around where the angle of the "isometric" curvature changes on the hoop. Then balanced with a little weight on the handle

@bruno_mart 5 ай бұрын

Jonas what was the actual SW on the 100?

@bojack3827 8 ай бұрын

Shocking quality control from yonex

@joeyham08 7 ай бұрын

How would the Vcore98 compare to the Percept 100?

@sam74 8 ай бұрын

Leather grip and lead tape fixes a lot of racquet issues!

@goggleboy2464 8 ай бұрын

What string and tension did u use?

@ahmedashraf1485 8 ай бұрын

Several reviews note the big SW difference and bad quality control in the new Percept. Did Yonex move their factory outside Japan? Because even Japan Yonex showroom is out of stock

@Slipfrolife 8 ай бұрын

i customized my 2019 Vcores Pros97 to 330 SW and for me its optimal.

@orangutan29 8 ай бұрын

Mine came in at 311 sw instead of 315. Acceptable I guess?

@alejandrogandolfid 3 ай бұрын

How much tension do you recommend for Percept 97?

@lancefrederickzabala2477 8 ай бұрын

How about the 100D version!

@kylegary6311 8 ай бұрын

I really wish Yonex would come out with a 320 gram 16x19 in the 97 head size. That was the issue with the V-Core and this version.

@andrewpotash3300 8 ай бұрын

Precious versions of VCP 97 310 do well with some lead tape added.

@landonh3535 8 ай бұрын

H is heavy on paper but honestly the more time I spent with the old models the easier it became to use. The weight is really appreciated on my 2 handed BH.

@eduardoalbertohenriquezrom8836 8 ай бұрын

I am using my Vcore Pro 97H with a leather grip and although it weighs 358 grams in total, I honestly don't find it to be a heavy racket. I have one-handed backhand and the stability and feel when hitting, I have not found it in another racket. I have also tried the 310 g Vcore Pro and it feels very pleasant at impact, good spin, good power. But anyway, I feel more comfortable with the 330g version

@landonh3535 8 ай бұрын

@@eduardoalbertohenriquezrom8836 Yeah I am with you. I think people get psyched out by the specs and its in their head that its heavy, so they write it off and miss out on one of the sweetest hitting options available in modern frames.. But my experience is the racquet is easier to play than expected.I think it is a great fit for a player with a strong upper body who maybe played other sports, lifted weights..etc.

@eduardoalbertohenriquezrom8836 8 ай бұрын

@@landonh3535 I think that even with good footwork and early preparation, the racket can be handled

@landonh3535 8 ай бұрын

@@eduardoalbertohenriquezrom8836 I agree, I just got the H and the swingweight is in the 320s. It swings rather easy but I was able to return some big serves with it due to the mass. Awesome racquet.

@slowbot68 7 ай бұрын

yonex bump up the swingweights so we don't have to customize! player racquet should have 326 swingweight strung at least

@ThomasThomas-cf2jp 5 ай бұрын

i’ve played the 97 today and i really have to say that this racket is so soft and it plays very nice but mine had a 306 SW😂 that’s way too low

@meinsouza 5 ай бұрын

what about the 97D??

@mininovak97 8 ай бұрын

I just bought the Yonex Percept 100 after demoing the Head Extreme MP, Speed MP, Boom MP, Yonex Ezone 100, Vcore 100, and Wilson Blade 98. Personally, I found that the Percept was the best racquet of all. The Percept 100 provided a lot of comfort, but this didn't compromise the amount of power generated - you get this feeling that even if you rip a forehand through the ball with the percept, you can be sure it'll land in the court. I had a hard time with controlling my shots with the Ezone 100. I was hitting a lot more forehands that were going long and it was hard not to overhit compared with the Percept 100. I think the Ezone would be a great weapon once I got used to hitting forehands with it. I'd say that it takes less power and strength to generate a powerful shot with the Ezone 100, but at the same time, I didn't really have too much control over my shots.

@sanburbano 4 ай бұрын

Hey, have you had any problems with the percept 100 since you bought it? cracks or anything in general?

@joshdroge 8 ай бұрын

wow you can actually see a huge difference in the way the ball travels in the playtest

@joshdroge 8 ай бұрын

between the h and standard model

@tesladiesel2420 8 ай бұрын

Jonas sums it all up - in Spanish… at 1:15 lol (no más)

@gab_ale 8 ай бұрын

That is odd (the low SW issue) from Yonex. I always hear that their QC is very good.

@fluffy_skye 8 ай бұрын

Not at all. Yonex static weight is on point but their SW sucks just as other brands.

@gab_ale 8 ай бұрын

@@fluffy_skye As a product design and manufacturing QE myself I wonder why that is.

@fluffy_skye 8 ай бұрын

@@gab_ale Well I don't know about manufacturing, but the physics is simple. If you ever customized your racket, you would know 1 gram at 12 roughly adds 3pts SW. So the SW is very sensitive to the mass distribution. It is easy to get the overall mass close to target but it is harder to get the mass distribution close to target. A few grams off could translate to 10pts off in SW.

@gab_ale 8 ай бұрын

@@fluffy_skye Yeah, I was just wondering if it is a component "issue" or a manufacturing "issue". I had seen a Yonex manufacturing tour video and my QE brain went over the process to try and see where the challenge could be.

@phyotennis7462 8 ай бұрын

Look very good with the new hair style, make you look less grumpy😅

@celticrkvc 8 ай бұрын

I think Yonex Arrow 97/100/97D/97HD would be much better name and cosmetics should have stayed similar as previous generation

@theyruinedyoutubeagain 8 ай бұрын

They're strikingly similar in design to the Wilson Pro Staff, which I don't mind at all.

@InfinityProTeam 3 ай бұрын

in what universe are they similar

@medianera2008 4 ай бұрын

What are the specs of your customized Percept 97? Leather?

@medianera2008 3 ай бұрын

Please give a short answer, i am not shure to buy one, but with the right customizing it could be great. I play with gravity pro - but it is demanding. Thanks :-)

@medianera2008 3 ай бұрын

It's a shame you're keeping it such a secret.

@MrHitthespot 5 ай бұрын

Out of all the reviews I’ve watched you are the only reviewers complaining about swing weight. Unplayable, really? Most club players don’t like a high swing weight. I can’t wait to buy one.

@Yiyan81 8 ай бұрын

Cosmetic reminds me of when I clean my tongue! Not something I wanna be thinking about when on the court!! 😂

@OldSkoolLegend Ай бұрын

Wilson Did the same thing with the Ultra Pro... all the weight is in the handle... really annoying. And Blade Bro... all the weight is in the head. Also really annoying. YES... i know they are supposed to be platform rackets...but still... way too unbalanced and anemic. You're paying for less racket. LOL

@joshdroge 8 ай бұрын

thats crazy low especially for a control line

@philanthropenos1074 8 ай бұрын

Historically Yonex used R (From racquet obviously) for his series: R-7, R-22, RQ-180, RQ-380, RD-7, etc. Possibly I would choose a word starting with R but not ending with harsh consonants. Something like Revere (It is not a good one but just for illustration) or Roland (Read it as a French word like Roll-un)

@nicholaslau8362 4 ай бұрын

They can't, because of the Regna.

@philanthropenos1074 4 ай бұрын

@@nicholaslau8362 Yep but how many Regna are they selling annually? 22? Is it enough to justify for not using R words?

@Nopanop 8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a medication 😅

@FerV78 4 ай бұрын

Vcore pro was way better looking racquet, in the case of Percept 100 and Vcore pro 100 playability and feel is about the same.

@reallypantik6283 8 ай бұрын

Nikki will benefit a lot from lighter racquet, he just doesnt understand it I think:)

@rds4629 8 ай бұрын

really shocked about SW being so off-spec. I believe Yonex does outsource some frame manufacturing to China? Don't know if this is the case here?

@rcyc 8 ай бұрын

Only the cheaper ones like Percept, VCore & Ezone Game are made in China

@hybrid11theory75 8 ай бұрын

Just call it Yonex PRO, lol ,)

@jeremyvanvlymen7191 17 күн бұрын

Shame - thanks, saved me money so far

@LTBlightthebeam 8 ай бұрын

pcore

@soyellowsoviolent 8 ай бұрын

I think Percept is so bad. The racquet feels unnatural and even more muted if that’s even possible.

@akbarberlian 8 ай бұрын

If muted isn’t your thing, then maybe yonex is a no go

@vnishpt7036 8 ай бұрын

Boring cosmetic & unusual/odd name (for a tennis racket line) imo so 👎to Yonex on both of those. How does Nikki feel about 100 sq. in. rackets for one-handers? From the reviews I've seen the Head Gravity Pro or maybe Wilson PS X seem to be the best 100 frames currently available but have not tried either due to manueverability concerns (for a one-hander).

@LTBlightthebeam 8 ай бұрын

pzone

@aj520605 8 ай бұрын

If you get used to a higher SW - it doesnt mean that a lower SW is bad. You just can't manage it and need some time to get used to it, that's it. This is not a QC issue - this is a right direction of racquets producing