Can you do one of these on Dimenhydrinate? (Aka Dramamine or Gravol)

I did all of them when I was i highschool nothing bad happened to me. I got the coridcedine pills did it multiple times with friends. took 6-8 each time. which was plenty. it was quiet enjoyable to be honest. codeine cough syrup I did too. it was even better. I also did benadryl which was the least enjoyable alls it did was give me audio hallucinations of my mom calling out for me. it was not fun at all. dramamine it makes you way more tired but if you can stay up I had the craziest hallucinations on that one. not psychedelic like lsd which I took or dmt mushrooms 2ci 2cb bromodragon fly 5meodmt 5meodipt maclaine ayahuasca ect which I also took before. nutmeg which I also did was its crazy own non psychedelic hallucinations. I did however never try hard drugs like meth crack or herion seems too risky and its not a hallucinogen. I smoked marijuana too before. the allure of tripping always interested me when I was a teenager to probably about 24 when I started having kids. ever wanna wounder what any of that stuff is like let me know.

@@DavidBentley23 I took it before it makes you super tired. its not psychedelic but its a hallucinogen. I saw a lot of bugs on it and most things looked realistic but mostly black in color. that stuff is crazy.

@@MrChris7582 I abused it a lot. I see very few videos on the long-term effects. I could take 100 pills in 2 - 3 days too give you an idea of how insane my tolerance/abuse was. I thought it would be a good subject because of the lack of content and ease of access too it.

Yes! Enjoyed her contribution!

Pro tip: if you develop deppression and/or anxiety you can dissociate for free Just kidding, it's just that, as someone w involuntary dissociation, the idea of causing that on purpose is pretty wild

@@verybarebones yh i agree iv been dissociated since i was 5 and im 28 now.... Why would anyone want to feel nothing. Barely even feel as if im living but not taking anything in. Do cannabis once in a while but no drugs to cause it xD

Amen!

Hey congrats on being clean! It's a hard habit to get out of.

Rock on. Not crack rock...but the normal kind. Like stones.

I thought was being smart because I bought capsules where DXM was the only active ingredient - as if it wasn’t fucking terrible me, regardless. Ugh

It's locked up at local drug stores because of that kind of thing. Kinda sucks when you're coughing so hard you're puking and can barely stand upright.

@@lactofermentation ironic that it was made to replace codeine, no? Not sure what is worse if I am honest

@@lactofermentation and it being locked up impigned on your buying it, how? Just seems non sequitur

@@DS-ej7zt I think they both have their legitimate uses. I just wish it were easier to identify people at high risk of of prescription and OTC drug abuse and intervene before they even start. Teaching young people how and these drugs work, the difference between the effects of a normal dose and an overdose, and making it legal and acceptable to suggest or provide safer alternatives for the determined. If you could talk openly with a pharmacist about ANY drugs you're taking or plan to take and ask questions without the risk of being jailed, that'd be great. Pharmacists are awesome, they're so much more than pill dispensers and need the freedom to do those other things.

Well Jesus was it the dxm that killed him due to later organ damage? Or suicide? That’s just so heart breaking to hear. I’ve worked L&D and thinking about what that baby may grow up to be and do and feel and then learning about this would be shattering.

@@the_rachel_sam suicide by overdose. Somehow he had came into possession of a half gallon bottle pharm bottle.

@@Airsoftforall that’s dreadful, what a lamentable death at that age.

@@Airsoftforall wow, half gallon bottle of cough syrup! 😮

A good candidate for the use of conscious sedation where soft restraints aren't going to be tolerated by family. A few mg/hr of lorazepam or a syringe driver of midazolam (or dexmedetomidine if BZDs are contra'd or discouraged, albeit with far more caution) isn't a bad idea. I've found that lorazepam just generally assists with alleviating the anxiogenic properties of these kind of agents in overdose, and has the added benefit of reducing tachycardia and heightens seizure threshold.

Dude I completely relate. I don't think I'm changed. I just feel older like I've seen life from a very different perspective and now I'm working with that knowledge. But I completely understand dude

Sounds like you just got shitty research chemical instead of acid then.....

@@djobe420 yeah I don't like how people just buy whatever from people and take their word for it. They don't even know what they're selling you 99 percent of the time if they don't test it

In wich way it changed your life?

@@djobe420 acid is much better and saver for sure!

You're doing it! Proud of you. God bless! 💕🏅🙂

Good job getting sober man

Hell yeah! A year and half?! That's hard work put in

@@davedave6577 This is why we can’t have nice things

Proud of you for taking your life back, keep up the good fight!

Lol, surprising. If you don’t quit your body will shut down if your mind doesn’t first.

I recommend Battle Toads.

@@Joehtosis Definitely a better option!

it makes hallucinations but not psychedelic. lsd is psychedelic. robo tripping in a dissociative and deliriant. more along the lines of pcp or ketamine. lsd dmt mushrooms are in technicolor lol there for are psychedelic. I have done a bunch of different drugs and figured out the differences between the types of hallucinogens and the differences between all of them. its different to be in a state of deliruim compaired to psychedelic hallucinations. alcohol with draw isnt very nice to go through but that will give you deliruim. they call that part of alcohol withdrawal the DT's. deliruim tremens. but robo trip is a dissociative first. a stronger delirium effect comes from dramamine. benadryl causes some small visual delirium but main effects audio hallucination.

@@MrChris7582 I disagree, I think psychedelic in itself is more of a pseudo sciencey term but I do think DXM can cause psychedelic like effects ( hence why I said semi-psychedelic) just like it can cause time distortion and hallucinations like hallucinogens. I don't think it has the same benefits as LSD or Mushrooms, or the same enlightening experience, but some people would say the same thing about MDMA. A lot of it is just personal experience.

Took a lot of deugs and still dxm is really good reacreational drug but not for everyone

You can’t take cough medication when you’re on an SSRI. Probably for this reason.

Yeah. It’s always a good idea to ask even like a pharmacist would know any interactions with SSRI/SNRI

When the person has the intent to take the DXM as instructed (single 15mg dose every few hours), it might not even be dangerous as people who aren't used to ultra high Serotonin concentrations in the brain do usually react with intense nausea, which keeps them from taking more DXM.

@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004 In a perfect world, yes. As someone who's been prescribed antidepressants and has taken DXM I can tell you that the majority of psychiatrists/pharmacists just throw the medication at you with no warning or consultation.

@@AuskaDezjArdamaath Depends on the individual and the SSRI dose. Something to talk about with a doctor or pharmacist. I've never had a problem with taking dextromethorphan despite being on SSRIs, but I'm anal about taking the lowest effective dose of isolated OTCs as infrequently and for as short a time as possible, and high serotonin tolerance is a weird family quirk.

I had a pretty bad DXM addiction myself, I just remember it being the only drug that was easy to get that made me feel actual happiness and bliss. I sort of miss a lot of the experiences I've had but know how hard DXM is in the mind and body now and just don't use drugs any more in general. Life is better now.

@@sheeeitmayn4384 thank you so much for sharing your story ❤ it means a lot to me. I honestly struggle with the same problem sometimes where i had so many fun experiences on it that part of my brain is like "go on do it a few times you'll be fine it'll be fun." But as I've gotten older ive really learned to respect my body and what i choose to put in it, i agree it really is so hard on your body and mind. I also dont want to risk going back to that place again where i lived in my own dxm world all the time.

My 3rd day on 400mg I was convinced I had died. Too worried of long term mental deterioration I quit and haven’t touched it since. I can’t believe how much of that crap I ingested… Memory and intelligence weren’t noticeably affected. I try to keep up with brain-healthy foods like omega3, mct oil etc. Meditation can put me in the same mindset I would take dxm for.

@@s7r49 You’re speaking some truth brother I did not know that about omega 3. I’m in college, usually resort to supplements as they’re pretty cheap. All the other options excluding fish are a no go for me. I’ve gotta see if I have the stomach for sardines. Organ meats are definitely another thing we should be eating more of. Preach🙏🏻

Congratulations on your recovery, I hope you're doing well now 🤍 one day at a time

@@Trixtoxia Is it like taking 15 dramamine? diphenhydramate I think its called. I heard it causes hallucinations not like LSD or mushrooms but seeing people objects that dont exist. I always wanted to try but was to scarred to. Stick to LSD way more fun and safer even though illegal.

@@vitaeve Thats not how chemistry works. They dont cut or mix drugs they are two different but similar molecules. Caffeine is not structuly similar to either of those drugs. Look up the molecules shape on chem compare.

@@Trixtoxia Well thank you for not just making bs up and spouting it as fact.

@@daveb5041 no... @Vita Eve is completely correct. Try just googling something before claiming someone trying to help is wrong. DPH is the deliriant drug you are talking about. You said Dramamine which is different, and Vita eve explained with facts why.

@@jobis34 I took pharmacology in college and I'm a 3rd year organic chemist. Go look up those drugs using chemcompare rather then random posts off google. I'm sure dr benard would agree.

I once told a doctor I abused it and he almost laughed, like it wasn't something real or having any effect. I guess they assume I wouldn't have taken it dozens upon dozens of times. Probably have a hole in my brain now, lol.

The fact that dextromethorphan can cause false positives for phencyclidine is quite interesting. After years of taking very high doses of hydromorphone for a chronic health condition and after recovering from surgery, no longer needing it, I switched to methadone to taper off such a high dose in a slow, controlled fashion over three years. I had to do weekly urine screenings, and during that time, I was using DXM at least twice a week at doses between 450 - 600 mg. The urine screenings specifically included testing for PCP, and I never tested positive for it. That being said, I'm a 2D6 poor metabolizer of DXM. Additionally, I was able to discontinue 20 mg / day of methadone cold turkey when many people say that even discontinuing 2-5 mg / day of methadone is incredibly painful. I suspect that the fact that DXM is an NMDA antagonist actually had to do with this, since NMDA antagonism is suspected to not only reduce tolerance building to opioids, but also mitigate opioid withdrawal. (For example, a single dose of ibogaine - which also demonstrates significant NMDA antagonism - has been shown not only anecdotally but scientifically to terminate heroin addiction and prevent withdrawal to the point where there are treatment centres in certain countries, e.g. Canada, where people can go to be administered ibogaine.) Note that ibogaine is illegal in many countries, and I don't recommend high-dose DXM use to prevent opioid tolerance building or terminate opioid withdrawal. (The last thing you need when in opioid withdrawal would be a difficult dissociative experience.) While there is some evidence regarding DXM and its effect on opioid use, it is far from conclusive and is still controversial, and anything I report here is purely anecdotal and should not be generalized: it could be attributed to my unique neurochemistry or even the fact that I metabolize DXM into dextrorphan poorly.

@hello because the flood of serotonin that rushes in your brain. Try to mimic that experience without the DXM

*"just because you know what neurotransmitter a drug involves doesn't mean you know Jack about what it's like."* You're right, it's the combination of my previous experiences with it and my research of it that allows me to know what it's like. *" Saying 'you feel good bc serotonin lol' is retarded"* I see you don't have an idea of how quotations were considering I never said that. Serotonin is literally what's involved in feeling pleasure and there is not another hormone primarily involved in giving you that experience than serotonin. Your personal argument from ignorance and incredulity is not valid. *''by that logic SSRIs would be the most sought after drug on Earth"* By what logic? Because it seems the logic you are attempting to discredit isn't what I actually acquire. Your argument is based on a strawman. *"Not to mention that DXM primary works on NDMA receptors and sigma1 receptors so you're just wrong too"* My statement wasn't based on what receptors are primarily activated with the use of dxm. I was referencing as to why people tend to develop mental dependency on it. All you presented was nothing but an ignoratio elenchi.

@hello *" Your research was 2 minutes of Wikipedia article reading"* You're projecting. It's evident in your ability to articulate an actual rebuttal. *"Stop being a pseud on the internet for imaginary points"* That's pretty specific considering nobody said anything about "earning" points. I think the actual condescending pseudo intellectual here is you. That's why your emotional instability prevents you from being able to give a legitimate response. Probably that DXM screwing up that dense brain of yours. Anything else my son?

@hello So in otherwords *" I still cannot articulate a logical rebutta".* Well then, class is dismissed.

@@thakraken6995 Off topic but it's kind of weird how obvious it is that you feel the need to come off as highly intellectual but go about it in a way that you kind of come off like a smug douche. I used to do that in the past too but I found that it was detrimental to my own well being and just all around kind of pointless

Same I dont understand all if the things like the diagrams yet but I enjoy it a lot :) and it also let's me k ow new things and beware of things in other to stay safe :)

This isnt accurate information to the core or even close, very biased and speaks down to the audience like we are a bunch of idiots. Some cool stuff sure but dont think you are gonna get spoonfed accurate information in a form you can understand without them trying to serve their own purposes

@@roberttrent4388 I don't get that impression at all... Actually, I get the impression you're the biased one. Just saying.

@@anitacigarette Maybe, but My understanding of this particular subject is far broader than the studies listed. This is lie-to-children level consumer freindly info to rack up views because if it came to actually understanding this, then no one would watch a video that long nor complex

Based Opeth PFP

I'm kind of curious what that art piece is tbh...

@@neurofiedyamato8763 It was made by applying a filter to amplify the sort of static you get by taking a picture in complete darkness and then basically just scribbling patterns over it in dark colors. Not really a drawing of anything in particular except my mental state at the time.

Yeah, I took DXM at a relatively high dose once. I don’t really think I want to experience that again. The come up made me think I was dying, it freaked me out.

i did about 2 bottles of the stuff and drew Danny devito and bjork

@@Urine666Deity real niga shit

Yup.

you should be proud of it at least you were being somewhat responsible by instructing yourself.

That’s just the way it is. Things will never be the same for me ngl

@@quitoxictv8307 welcome to the cope. they definitely wont ever be with that kind of attitude.

Erowid was the shit

Born in 2001: hahaha can I join you

walter white

You pay for the chance to get a piece of paper. Education is free and anyone can read a book, especially now with internet resources. Tho i admit hospitals are ran like the military so you need that piece of paper. Never confuse that paper for an education

Omg I thought the same thing. Years later have such nightmares of that class. Why the heck can’t professors explain it out like this.

Very true

I mean you got a point hah, glad that it helped u

dxm in for the long con

Funny enough, the new drug that is bupropion/dextromethorphan was actually tested in stage 2 trials for smoking withdrawal symptoms.

Trade one addiction for another?

There is another person in these comments who feels like they caused irreversible harm from this. Nature of the beast is to take too much too often. Slippery slopes

Yeah it was similar for me; I was a bored teen but was also fascinated by drugs, psychedelics specifically. I would spend hours just reading trip reports on erowid, and generally educating myself on random drugs that I would probably never get the chance to try. I think that's why I got lucky and never got addicted to anything/ generally used substances responsibly (outside of alcohol but that's a tangent). I tried DXM a handful of times, it can't be understated how horrible the syrup tastes. For me personally, I also consistently threw up around 1-2 hours after ingestion, at which point the trip began. I legitimately don't understand the appeal, the syrup is absolutely vile, and the trip, while interesting from a sort of "drug enthusiast" or intellectual point of view, had no euphoric or positive aspects for me, you just lose motor function (similar to alcohol) and get a severe case of double vision. I feel for people who are addicted to it, I've known of people who were addicted and it sounds like a nightmare. Dissociatives are no joke.

Exactly. Its honestly really sad but it makes me feel grateful for not being as shortsighted and wreckless as some of those people lol

I think the term "misuse" should only really apply to people who use it naively and without preparation and research. I read the DXM FAQ three times before I decided to try DXM, and I would never consider my doses to be a "misuse." Certainly, they weren't in line with the indicated dosage for treatment of cough, but I wasn't using them to treat a cough.

@@NewbPhil Dissociatives are, IMO, the most challenging drugs. People shouldn't take them for fun, because they're really not that fun... they're going to take you to disturbing places that most people aren't prepared to go. Taking cough syrup (back when I used DXM) did the same thing for me: I would feel extreme nausea and often vomit just as I was coming up on it. I switched to cough caps or powder for that reason. The appeal to me over the two decades that I used DXM was not because it was recreational, but because I enjoyed how it challenged my entire worldview. I really don't get the addiction part. Sure, it can be psychologically addictive and a psychological addiction can be a pretty severe thing regardless of what it is you're addicted to (but TV and sex and overeating can be psychologically addictive), but I never had problems stopping DXM use, even after taking 600 mg daily for several months. I was just kind of bored and the world no longer had that "magical feeling" that DXM gives to reality. After a couple of days, I no longer missed it.

Bad experiences during that time are probably the best that can happen to you. I had a few but when I didn't, I didn't really feel well, always got too psychotic and afraid. I am really glad but unfortunately I am still addicted to tobacco nowadays with no plans to stop any time soon. I am also diagnosed with anxiety and I'm quite afraid of trying to stop. I don't wish this on anyone, high school is the worst place everywhere in the world.

@@WeirdDuck781 I wish you the best of luck. While what I say probably doesn't mean much but every attempt to quitting is a step forward even if it failed. You should try to remind yourself that the fear is often irrational. A good way I found to try and overcome irrational fears is to write down all possible outcomes and their likelihood. When you get to visualize these outcomes and their probability, you can make a more objective risk assessment and usually things don't seem as scary.

@@neurofiedyamato8763 thank you. Indeed you're right, even though I've mostly been a rational person and as a software developer I should be more of a logical person but ever since this started happening I cannot apply my rationale to these inner fears that I probably have yet to understand. Nevertheless I feel like I'm making good progress. I would wonder how would I be if my life was nearly as stressful as those in past generations when they indeed had far more concerns, it makes me feel so weak and I see our generation as so. It is a weird ass time where we have everything for granted yet we are getting mentally weaker. Maybe past generations just didn't talk as much about the issues. I really hope for the best for anyone with these troubles

@@WeirdDuck781 Wait until you go to college

@@SobrietyandSolace I am a little bit past that but I was thinking about going to college to get an engineering degree. Pretty optional as I'm currently a Software Developer and pretty much well with my current education, but i still want that degree, might change my mind. I have plenty of friends in college at the moment and it seems rather chill. The more so since I will take post laboral classes instead of morning-afternoon ones, as I intend to keep working full time. We'll see if it's worth it tho

so you're sober? did you ever get treatment?

Wow how can you love the taste, it is terrrrible

@@afwaller It's an addiction/dependency. The desire to feel better (or the association that it will) overrides the nasty taste. Addiction is a tough thing to deal with and sometimes never fully go away even with therapy, lifestyle changes and consultation. But all of these are still great methods in trying to overcome it.

@@afwaller It may taste terrible to you, but for someone else it may taste good. Of course, addiction as @Neurofied Yamato said overrides taste, but there are people who just like the taste, find comfort in it whereas others find discomfort so to speak.

@@neurofiedyamato8763 Its not addictive, it's habit forming, there's a difference.

did u get seratonin syndrome?

Yeah that’s most likely what happened. Typically it wouldn’t occur from a a slight overdose of dxm combined with an antidepressant but it can

They’ve now turned that combo into an fda approved antidepressant called auvelity, which is 45mg dextromethorphan to 105mg bupropion.

my dad did the same thing 2years back and he started hallucinating , couldn’t even recognise use and now has nerve damage in his brain because of that and has trouble remembering certain things i.e partial memory loss

@@gts447 bupropion isnt an ssri tho its a ndri

thank you, I kept thinking the doctor in the stock footage was some kind of surreal Whang cameo

Whang is the man

Living that actor dream.

Looking for a whang! Comment. Found it.

I notice he's in ones where he plays a patient getting royally trashed on something...whether booze or cough syrup. Is that typecasting?

That's a very sad story :(

@@neurofiedyamato8763 I know, I still think about his parents occasionally, but haven’t seen them in several years.

@@chincemagnet have u thought about contacting them?

@@chincemagnet i hope u can heal and recover from that traumatic situation

@@tasm9234 well that was at least 15 years ago so I’ve moved on

I think you're misinterpreting what serotonin syndrome is. Simply taking dxm in recreational doses isn't going to give you serotonin syndrome. It's from mixing it with other medications that work on serotonin.

"Stuff is weird" is an understatement.

⁠​⁠@@McFwoupson when I would take it everyday I could feel parts of my brain that felt sun Burnt but that sensation never lasted more than a day but I feel like I’ve lost memories from using dxm it has altered my mind I’m not so good of a way

@TroskTV I've only taken DXM once and it was awful. Felt like I was in menopause, sick and lots of heat flashes. Made my skin feel like it was on fire. Dissociatives are my favorite kind of drugs too, only one I haven't enjoyed was DXM. Also yea everyday use of dissociatives can mess with your memory. I used 3meopcp every other day for 2 weeks once and my short term memory was not up to par for a while.

How often were you doing it???

I’m so sorry. Do u think there are doctors who can treat for this? You are really blaming you. Try to let that go. Move toward treatment. Maybe there was already something missing or something wrong before you even had a drop. Idk, but there have to be Dr’s out there to try to help. Know you probably want to keep it private. Good news is, it is. Have u researched any cases of another feeling a permanent change after cough meds? Hope you get better and feel better

Give it time my friend, our brains are capable of extraordinary things. . Take care of yourself and focus on your priorities. Stay away from dope, and drugs in general. I’m with you

Yes, please give it time, and / or see a doctor. I know this is not the same, but when I experienced a "glorious" hypomanic episode (bipolar II) and then crashed into a mixed, then depressive episode, it was hell. When I talked to people who had experimented with drugs, I found so many similarities in my experience. Today I have recovered, the hypomania did not come back and I can cope well with depressive epidsodes. But it took time. So, I encourage you to not give up!

it gradually gets better... i was on it for years. don't beat yourself up. everyone's just trying to kill the pain.

Call on the Lord Jesus my friend! He is the only reason I am alive and have not suicided after 14+ years of addiction! God bless😁

how tf did u get visuals on it

How did you accidentally get high on it? How many shots did you do of it

That’s horrible I’m so sorry. Do mushrooms for therapy

@@verticalyetti1266 my best guess was that I may have accidentally been doubled on cosine or some other cold medicine dose after coming home from my father’s house that evening while sick, plus I was on ADHD medications at the time as well. There was a lot of serotonin release at once, I would guess. But the event happened 15 years ago, so I’m only speculating. I’ve always been very careful about medication interactions and food interactions since then.

Me too, I am also taking this as a win.

I know someone who did it semi-regularly and managed to stop it, but not before having seized herself to hospital at least once. Those circles are closer than you'd think. Also, I'm curious and did a ton of reading on shrooms, mezcal and other stuff in the 90s. Never used anything tho.

I wad born in 1995 and never heard of it, but I dont know about most drugs or their slang names. I have enough medical problems without adding to it so I stayed the hell away from drugs. I already have severe asthma, Hypothyroidism, depression, anxiety, etc. I dont need to make it worse lol. Seen doctors my whole life and have a variety of prescriptions that I take to make my life functional but I only ever take things as directed/per instructions.

I was born in 1988 but I knew about t because I hung around some pretty sketchy people in middle and high school.

@@inuyasha13 it's good you respect the health you have. 💕💐 It's difficult to understand those who cavalierly destroy their health, especially their brains. God bless.

Exercise will fully rehabilitate you especially if you enjoy yourself often while working off all that energy mr testies

Fr bro, throw in some weed and as long as you can hold back the vomit for an hour you're golden

@@gavinm7851 couldn'ta said it better

@@s7r49 I knew all about the plateaus at the time. I did pleateau one and two _(dose adjusted for my low body weight)_ In my limited personal experience neither was that euphoric

It's a dissociative/deleriant, not pleasurable at all. I've eaten a lot acid and I won't even touch this garbage when I'm coughing up a lung and my head is full of snot.

@@iGame3D lol not even. It’s more relaxing than THC in some doses

@@iGame3D what? That's dph, different drug lol. Dex hits opiate receptors if you take enough and is one of the more itchy albeit euphoric dissos. Idk why people are shitting on it so much, just be smart with it and don't take it more than six times a year lol

I would say the majority of millennials have went through a robo trip phase as a teenager it’s something most people grow out of but not everyone

be well

You stupid guy if it was once dangerous for you why did you try again xD

Psychosis is really rare for reacreatiomal use

@@rockmove3547 Addiction is a bitch, that doesn't make him stupid. And regarding your second comment, I wouldn't categorise psychosis as "really rare from recreational use",. in fact it's much higher in recreational use because high doses make it more likely.

@@chrisboelens2640 actualy if you do it in the right way chance it happens almost never. Set and settting + preparation. Know your body, know your substance. If you take to much for first time, without antyhistamine stuff, or in the place you are not safe, you have psychical problem or someone in your family ETC. Problem is that stupid people or kids take it, then it might be dangerous

Or Buproprion

Grapefruit?

@@ShinyMcshine what's the mechanism? Do u know a good literature source on it?

I think that whole grapefruit juice potentiation thing really depends on the individual. I've taken various kinds of opioids and drank probably 40 oz of grapefruit juice and could never tell the difference between that and not drinking it.

@@clamum it has to be white grapefruit juice

The times you feel you truly know immortality and that your consciousness will never cease to exist changed me. And the times I started thinking I've died multiplayer times and slipped into more progressively chaotic parallel universes where I DIDN'T die each time... Entropy of the spirit. There's been a good few hellish experiences. The best experiences? A bit more than the worst. The few good can cause a person to go overboard to get there again but it seems like everything has a mind of its own and that it cant be forced by even logic, as forcing never seemed to work. Usually not trying. Interesting avenues and corridors of the consciousness and psyche

I have also permanently damaged my brain and no longer know who I am. And I am never going to recover.

You probably don’t even remember writing this comment do you? You’re gonna get dementia so enjoy your brain functionality while you have it. The dextroverse is such a fascinating thing, it seems very real. I do believe it exists on some plain of existence. I haven’t even done dxm in over a decade and I still feel very connected with the places it took me while I was on it

You could quit and recover. You are just giving yourself the excuse you need to keep using it. " I've already caused permanent damage so what's the point in quitting". Bullshit! Just stop beeeatch.

@@tac6044 The truth is I have a really weird masochistic relationship with the substance where part of what I enjoy about it is how hard it is on my body. What many would classify as "bad trips" I almost enjoy in a fucked up type of way. I also have a history of severe self harm that I got the same kind of depraved rush from... Soo what's really going on is probably a lack of self worth/self respect which is why it's so hard to really WANT to stop even though I should. I appreciate your intention to try and help a stranger🙏

That song was about DXM?

orphan tears is absinthe

@@pineappleactavis420 isn’t that alcohol?

@@Grgrqr yes

Reminds me of when I was taking care of my elderly grandmother with cancer and she kept being nauseous and vomiting and they prescribed her scopolomine patches, within hours of putting it on her, she completely lost her mind, went from practically zero dementia, to full blown dementia, within 4-6 hours.

Benadryl should be a controlled substance. Or just not sold anymore since it's been usurped by better products with no side effects

@@andrewgarcia3136 tell that to the investors lol

On his other channel, he's covered benadryl abuse and subsequent effects (Other channel is chubbyemu, if you don't know).

The studies on Olneys lesions also used what would be equal to an ungodly dosage of DXM. I also agree about Benadryl abuse. I would even argue that OTC “sleeping medication” causes long term negative effects.

He's a toxicologist hence why all his stories are about substance ingestion. Also Ehlers Dan lost comes with lots of obvious signs so your doctor should generally be able to diagnose it easily enough

@@warbler1984 Um no, seems like at least half of doctors haven't even heard of it, it takes people up to a decade to get diagnosed and they're often refused diagnostic tests like genetic testing even if they have every symptom- that's because it systemically affects so many things at once so the doctor thinks you're making shit up to have so many things wrong with you or they're all all unrelated. They refuse to connect the dots and look at you as whole For some reason autoimmune disorders and such are nearly always diagnosed by the freaking patient then sheepishly confirmed by the doctor afterward...

@@warbler1984 This might be surprising, but in my own experience, most doctors do not keep up with modern medicine, especially older GP/PCPs, they are still practicing the medicine they learned in med school like 30-40 years ago

Went through that myself from childhood to age 35. Diagnosed with two super rare diseases, genetic. Was called crazy and everything else. Wasn't asking for pain relief, was asking for answers. Never got any apologies either.

I had hyperparathyroidism as a kid and because people thought I was faking it I almost died and it permanently fucked my body up to the point where I actually need drugs to function now. I just use edible weed at this point instead of the benzos and opioids I used to be prescribed for it after I was diagnosed and had surgery.

I used it from about age 19 to age 39 intermittently, but usually in binges. Serotonin syndrome is horrific... I got a mild case of it when I used cyclobenzaprine and then a couple of days later, DXM... I suddenly felt this huge sense of dread and spent three days feeling unable to organize my thoughts enough to do almost anything. Really frightening. DXM is one of those drugs that people think is safe because it's pharmaceutical grade. It is relatively safe, but you can overdose on it, and it isn't what most people would think of as "fun," which is what they are often looking for. I'm in my mid-40s now and haven't used it for years, but I am incredibly thankful for my DXM experiences. They were severely challenging and often unpleasant, but overall, very formative to my worldview and spirituality.

Bruh. That’s exactly how addiction starts.

No, don't go happy tripping. Just dont.

Lololololl

I'm kind of happy that I don't think I get egged on easily. people has told me to do a bunch of stuff but I just don't since I don't want to. Even if they are otherwise close friends. But we all get influenced at a subconscious level

He wasnt wrong, it tends to also have ingredients like acetaminophen. If you drink enough to trip off DXM you'll drink enough tylenol to fuck your liver. Gotta make sure its the only active ingredient if someone's gonna do it.

Research before you take any mind altering substances!!

Well it's a good thing that your friend made sure it was Dxm only. My first time robotripping with my friends we were pourin' up nyquill and sprite into double cups (I know cringe xD).

@@minhilg sad thing is that much apap wouldn’t kill you but just basically destroy your liver and leave you alive

Try Zicam Cough Max

here in USA they mostly come as HBr or polistirex extended release suspension. HCl might be because of additional active ingredients in the formulation but don't quote me on that

They make DXM in cleaner forms, like gel caps and "5 Hour Energy" type shots which are much more concentrated and less awful tasting. Some people even get the pure chemical through whichever means.

diffrent salts, diffrent properties. Some are preffered, some aren't and it depends on what the manufactereur wants

@@HemeReview Sounds like there aren't any big differences between the two salts then, not that I expected there to be

shut up lol, dxm is safe in moderation. I take 600mg of dxm a couple times a year. I'm a kid.

@Peter the NWO Rabbit I would say look at the eyes, huge pupils/mydriasis and the responses with the ankles. Also look to see if the patient is itching alot or signs of scratching. Should have weird HGS too

They walk like they're drunk and can't speak properly. The walking is the biggest indicator

When I was robo tripping. I was hot but never itchy. Pour sweat that day and the next day. I liked to close my eyes alot and chill. My one buddy would get itchy. I'm pretty sure I could walk around and ppl just thought I have one too many beers.

I believe what he may be talking about is the environment where the patient is picked up, empty bottles near by or lying on the ground next to the patient, other nearby medication, etc. All of the rest of these symptoms described by others below are things an ER doctor would be able to see just aswell as EMS. What is unique to EMS is they get to see the location the pt was picked up in. What I believe makes these clues necessary for an involuntary overdose is because there will be no social history from family or otherwise of the drug abuse, making the diagnosis less obvious to ER docs

@@bigjohn4445 true. For someone who doses dxm regularly, with tolerance, they can more or less learn to mask the intoxication, and learn to override the gross motor impairment to a decent degree. Also, tolerance to the dissociative effects of DXM, (from its metabolite DXO) builds very rapidly, but the serotonergic activity of dxm remains strong, and stronger with increasing dosages over time. So the sweating, and large pupils can be indicative, as well as a general confusion of the patient, possibly just looking zoned out, but still sort of doing tasks and responding, like a robot. Another meaning of “robo” tripping. With chronic use, you kind of become “one with the DXM” and the patient will adapt to mask the obvious impairment, but over time, the impairments will be obvious in that the patient is always seeming tired, and kinda zoned out. It’s a very specific thing though that I’m finding hard to describe, but I’ve seen it many times where it was known, so I feel like I could guess, but it could easily be mistaken for other drug intoxication. But the combo of a weird gait, and the zoning out, staring thing, and large pupils would be some solid signs.

😂taking it medically in normal doses is completely fine, glad you’re being cautious though.

"fortunate to not get hooked" lmao, you can't get hooked on dxm. this isn't oxycodone.

Good and bad tbh I tried getting high with codeine too and didn’t have much luck so I also lack the gene I assume. The problem is tho I hurt my back the next month and my GP prescribed me strong codeine pills and they didn’t work. This means I’d have to start with morphine or oxycontin which is far more addictive and would’ve been overkill for back pain so my gp could only prescribe me naproxen (which is a slightly stronger version of ibuprofen). It’s good from the perspective of recreational abuse-as in it can’t happen, but it’s bad from a legitimate medical point of view

I suffer with chronic pain and allergies. I am prescribed promethazine and codeine but the way they affect me scares the shit out of me. When I had aspiration pneumonia (I have crowded teeth and struggle to chew tough vegetables sometimes so inhaled a pea skin). I was given syrup as I could not stop coughing to the point of vomiting and my lung were full of sold jelly bloody mucus. Even feeling that ill and it easing the cough a bit it freaked me out how messed up I felt. My dad has an addiction to painkillers and my uncle went from prescription painkillers to crack. Morphine makes me panic and throw up, tramadol makes me panic and have trouble breathing. Given the amount of alcoholics and addicts in my family I'm glad the only substance I fuck with is cannabis (and my asthma control is excellent even after the pneumonia related lung damage)

Agreed. Not even sure why they chose the HBr salt.

@@manyshnooks It probably has to do with the synthesis. There are many reactions in organic chemistry that yield HBr as a side product.

@@Psychx_ convert to freebase with NaOH and then salt it out with HCl; I agree with you 100%; they know the product will likely be abused, and they should endeavor to make it as safe as possible. Edit: this does make me think of the bromide sedative/hypnotics used a century ago and the cases of bromism that followed widespread use & abuse

@@Psychx_ just had a look, it seems that dextromethorphan has been produced in a variety of differing salts incl hydrochloride and citrate going by a Google patents search. I agree that it probably boils down to cost and economies of scale.

Did you notice different effects when socializing vs being alone?

You and I had the same experience. Now I enjoy edibles to get a similar experience with less problems.

@@dj_laundry_list I did, you really want to be alone for it because people will mess with you

@@dj_laundry_list never socialized on with it. taking it just made me want to chill alone.

Yes please!

the long term effects dont start to manifest until you start binging it or taking it more than once every 2 months.

@@AsrielKekker this statement isnt backed by hard science. Be careful of what folks say on the internet y'all. Statements like this made people believe, in mass, that marijuana was a non-addictive drug or that fiberglass was a safe alternative to asbestos etc etc

HartInCmajor of course it’s addictive, practically anything can be if you do it long enough or if you’re massively depressed and looking for an escape. The key, like with anything, is moderation.

@@PeppermintSwirl if this is about marijuana I'll just add that it is a physically addictive substance and that addiction is not exclusive to any single or type of psychotic state. The CDC finds that about 1 in 10 users are dependent, 1 in 6 users that used underage (during brain development, not just legally underaged) are dependent. As it is currently the withdrawal period from the physical addiction is viewed on average 2 weeks, but as thc potency rises and higher potency tests conclude, we may see shifts in some if those metrics. And before I get the "ha who trusts the CDC?" Comment I will say that when I did a paper on this subject I used credible sources that were both supported by the government and sources that were trusted independent.

Happens with alcohol as well.

And dmt

If you have LN2 and the right motherboard, you can overclock your computer so hard you damage your CPU with too much voltage. And it'll go faster. What's crazy about situations analogous to that?

the human body is fragile, we need to evolve into androids!

@@diablominero bad analogy. If you have LN2 you won’t be frying the CPU. it’s if you DONT have LN2 you will fry your cpu from overvolting it

Just looked it up and it seems like a clusterfuck can you break down what this is about?

@@scordova98 well doxxing is is their other hobby. They take dex and call them rubies due to the red capsules. They encourage people to take mass doses and have encouraged many autistic people to do it as well. There are lots of videos if you search Ganval and what his group does including calling people’s parents and harassing cancer patients. Mostly made up of middle aged women and ran by a 20 something guy with a BAD reputation.

yeah i had found and then looked into the community a while back, i do not do this stuff but somehow found out about it. for sure a really weird community

@@wisconsinvoleyball Sounds like a very horrible and toxic community rather than just weird.

@@neurofiedyamato8763 yeah for sure

Codeine is weak, and not very dangerous. Actually quite difficult to OD on, even if you wanted to, let alone accidentally. Especially at dosages found in OTC cough syrup. It works better than alternatives, that is why many countries have it otc. Countries that don't have it OTC have people abusing far more dangerous substances like DXM instead of abusing codeine. DXM is far more likely to kill you from long term abuse than codeine is.

@@rdizzy1 I have patients who are on methadone due to codeine misuse. While it's difficult to OD on - that's not the point of opiate misuse. It is a really effective antitussive but if a cough really is that bad I'd be referring to a GP long before I sell codeine - it would be bad on me if it turns out the PT has stage 4 lung cancer which was overlooked.