Pretty sure I bought banished when it was released in 2014, not 2007.

Not gonna lie, the first thing I thought when seeing that device is "Huh, a car GPS". Didn't knew there were mini Atom computers this small.

Modern handheld gaming PC is basically a modern take on these MID/UMPC It's now powerful enough to be a daily PC, but they need to be a little smaller to become actually pocketable like these devices

The main thing Microsoft did wrong with Windows 8 was changing the interface so much that it was unrecognisable by people used to the standard Windows interfaces of the past. They should've at least given people an option like they did in Windows 10 with tablet mode. It's a shame because that single start menu change completely overshadowed all the other interface and performance improvements. I had a fully setup Windows 8 system with a 5400 rpm drive that booted to the desktop, ready to go in around 40 seconds (where a Windows 7 Ultimate install would take a bit more than 2 minutes). It's not just the boot times either, the explorer was improved, copy/paste was improved, it had a vastly better task manager; it was a breath of fresh air back in the day. It's still the snappiest OS after Windows XP. Either way, great video.

windows 8 was the best optimized system i have ever used. It is much faster than windows 7 you can feel the difference on old machines. It was the first windows to feature real-time protection and smartscreen.

Really enjoying the ambient music thrown into the video. It feels like an increased production value.

The narration is like the National Geographic which describes cheetahs running very fast in tropical forests, I love it

Such beautiful camerawork and lighting. The reason I subscribed.

next android x86 on netbooks

The way you made it a story , amazing. I have little interest in this but you made it enjoyable. Thank you.

Really nice video. I never known this device existed. I used Windows 8.1 until 2023 . And for a while i prefered the start screen over the start menu. Keep up the great work :D

Shout out to that DEFCON music, gave me an immediate pavlovian response. (commented this before seeing the actual game in the video lol)

I've always hated intel atom CPUs, because even back in the day, they were super underpowered and disappointing. This palmtop can't do anything useful anymore.

I could have gone my entire life without knowing what windows 8 looked like, but here I am

I think, the touch screen is used as a mouse pointer, instead of an actual touch screen.

I remember installing Android as a dual boot on my iPhone 2G back in the day. People just didnt believed that is actually real.

Believe it or not, I just loved windows 8, the version without start button. Windows 8 is my most favourite windows operating system. I also have one installed on one of my vms.

Glad to see you back posting videos!!! Keep them coming. Stay safe and God bless.

Search to launch apps has been my go to method on windows since vista, when i had to stay using 8, search to launch was a godsend, Start-no enter and notepad opens

There are 2 reachable usb ports pin pairs inside you can connect some additional hardware like a card reader, units with the cellar modem had always a SSD as the modem filled half of the hdd compartment, there you have a mimi pcie port usb conencted pcie I don't remember. IIRC you can control the bios by using a key combo to switch the joystick mode. the IO port has one USB port, and VGA. I used mine with windows 7, and there is a proper touch screen driver i think i have it some ware worked on win 7 as it should, if you want to try it reach out to me.

Thanks for another awesome video Janus! Fyi: the touch screen mouse issue with starcraft is due to a resolution mismatch. I've had that issue while playing starcraft and other dosbox games, anytime the monitor does not support that resolution natively. It's almost as if the game was built to support 800 x 600 only. Super weird.

Yay! Another upload! :D (I encourage you to try Windows 7 on that machine, as a portable Windows Media Center device.) (Or Vista if you wanna get crazy)

Really enjoying your videos keep up the great work 👌

I wonder what the latest version of windows it could boot into is.

I was about to call out the DEFCON music. Then I saw the icon. Then you showed it.

Everytime janus uploads i feel happy

I remember back when Windows 8 was starting to release, wanting to see the laptop displays to really see the touchscreen interface they were selling hard at the time. Before, with 7, it felt like innovation at its peak performance rather than an iPad competitor with fully bendable laptops and Surface Pros

12:46 that error was the bane of my existance when i was playing with win8/8.1 on small screens...

Android running on this thing... Imagine if someone hacked together a ROM for the 3G version with calling capabilities. A smartphone would be born.

Windows 8.1 did brought back the Start button and made directly to desktop instead of starr screen when turning on PC.

for future reference, you can slipstream drivers into an off-line Windows 8.x image before deployment by mounting both the setup and OS install images using the DISM utility (via an administrative command prompt). assuming X is the drive letter where your source image is mounted and Y is the drive letter of where the image will be mounted: mounting images: DISM /Mount-Image /ImageFile:"X:\path\to\boot.wim" /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\winre" /Index:1 DISM /Mount-Image /ImageFile:"X:\path\to\boot.wim" /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\setup" /Index:2 DISM /Mount-Image /ImageFile:"X:\path\to\install.wim" /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\install_professional" /Index:1 DISM /Mount-Image /ImageFile:"X:\path\to\install.wim" /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\install_core" /Index:2 installing drivers (assuming they (and their inf files) are extracted to their respective directories) to the offline OS images: DISM /Image:"Y:\path\to\mount\winre" /Add-Driver /Driver:"Y:\path\to\extracted_drivers" /Recurse DISM /Image:"Y:\path\to\mount\setup" /Add-Driver /Driver:"Y:\path\to\extracted_drivers" /Recurse DISM /Image:"Y:\path\to\mount\install_professional" /Add-Driver /Driver:"Y:\path\to\extracted_drivers" /Recurse DISM /Image:"Y:\path\to\mount\install_core" /Add-Driver /Driver:"Y:\path\to\extracted_drivers" /Recurse unmounting and saving changes: DISM /Unmount-Image /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\winre" /Commit DISM /Unmount-Image /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\setup" /Commit DISM /Unmount-Image /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\install_professional" /Commit DISM /Unmount-Image /MountDir:"Y:\path\to\mount\install_core" /Commit refer to learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/add-and-remove-drivers-to-an-offline-windows-image?view=windows-11 for more information

Back in the day, this device was a monster😁

First Posy uploads and now you? It's a good day indeed.

I just acquired 4 Sony Vaio Duo 13 and one 11. These computer were designed to work with Windows 8.1, being a hybrid of laptop and tablet. I just love them! Currently I am trying all sort of Linux distros and Windows(es). Windows 8 and 8.1 I jumped, never had contact before and now I realize... it's weid. Dear Janus, I am looking for a Ubuntu for tablets to test. That would be nice to see in your oddware machine. Great video!

Debian Window Maker Live: a time-mind trip without a seal ;)

Good to see someone else still uses their gpd win 1!

I played the hell out of Defcon back then. Miss those days. I still need to finish Uplink and Darwinia

These UMPCs are quite expensive back in the day. I am surprised that the build quality is still not on par with major manufacturers.

Wonderful as always. Devices in that form factor with period appropriate atom chips like the z2760 would have been so much fun. They really dropped the ball with such boring devices in the windows 8 hayday.

I have an idea for that thingy: Go back to XP and try to use a PS1 or a handheld emulator. This thing might not work well with Windows 8 (and considering Windows 8 is lacking support for basically anything) but it would make an awesome retro machine. I wanna playolder games or smth like Sims 1 on my phone so badly but a handheld pc is always better than a smartphone when it comes to the feels

I've got one of these in my closet! Haven't used it for a decade and the screen has many bad pixels but it's still there! I once used it as a standby pocket device for checking warehouse product stock on a sales floor.

Thank you

that Defcon game is probably my fav back in the days.i got my copy thru some PC Magazine that comes with CD.the soundtrack is haunting especially when the nuclear hit your city and you watch the casualty rises

Thank you.

windows 8 and mobile were pretty great oses for the stuff they worked on, touch screens, and convertable laptops, windows 7 for standard laptops and desktops

I still have my old viliv n5 and s5 from back in the day, they were fun little PCs that gave you the power of x86 in your pocket which was handy. There weren't a lot of mobile apps back in the day so having an x86 pc allowed you to run normal apps on the go without having to lug a laptop if it wasn't always needed. I think the n5 had GPS as well if I remember correctly.

A friend of mine recently gave me an old Asus Transformer T100 tablet with a removable keyboard, it's running windows 8 and I can see exactly what Windows 8 was going for BUT...... Back in 2013 I bought a Asus G46VW 'Gaming' laptop that was running windows 8, no touch screen... it was utter crap, the worst 'non touch' device OS.... I think Microsoft gets so deep into an idea they don't stop to think about their main customer base(see Windows 11 for more information). P.S. Great video as always!!

really think this would be interesting to see some lightweight mobile style linux distro

Tasty Windows XP product key up for grabs, not that anyone would actually need that :D

Such a good looking device!!!

2:40 Time out for current desk top switching for windows. If we just swap out the desktop items and the foreground and background items, then we might not have to load the entire resources of creating and deploying and destroying entire environments of desktops.

Windows 8 ui as a phone was the best - it still would be awesome, especially for something as big as a 14 inch s9 tab ultra

Netbook with touchscreen, same users bought that Qualcomm Windows tablet.

Nice work

pls make more vids on the vaio ux, you make great videos!

Viliv S5 is an underrated UMPC

WOW i have one of those use it for a Wearable setup with an HMD

sory late 5 hours ...already save to watch later...waiting you for next video...love your content video

I had one of these viliv when it first came out. I played with it for a bit but was too slow for media stuff I wanted to use. The iPad was released the following year, I sold the viliv and haven’t looked back since.

You may wish to take a look at the Surface RT, it's pretty neat for what it is

I've never seen a UMPC marketed as a PMP...

Installing a current version of Linux on the device would improve performance as it is less resource hungry than Windows, at the same time making it more secure and modern.

you can install open shell to make 8 look like you want. it was what i done first 5 min after purchase win8 laptop (it was classic shell back then), while whole world whining about they can't use 8.

I remember years ago trying to upgrade an Acer Aspire One to Windows 8.1, wanting to use it as a media laptop. Got a Broadcom HD decoder board to handle video playback and an SSD. Tried to find touchscreen kits for it, but never did. Memories. Lol

Thanks

I've got a viliv S5 as well, you can use the directional control as a mouse control, just press 3 seconds on "menu" and it will switch. Mine is the 3G modem, it has both GPS and 3G capabilities. Perfect little umpc

Dosbox is running at a lower resolution but the touch screen is working for the native resolution, so it's confusing dosbox with its scaling of the touch commands

But can it run DOOM?

i was use viliv's Car GPS, so nostalgic

The first time I used window 8.1 was on a Nokia lumia 630 it ran like butter on that phone to me it's one of the most underrated window versions because it felt futuristic it had it's bad sides but I feel like if they given it more time and optimize it then it would have been one of greatest window operating systems

Awesome video Janus!! You should try installing Adele Linux cuz the devs made it lightweight to the point you might be able to use on older CPUs than Viliv S5 PMP has. Worked on my Pentium 4 PC!

You always end up finding the coolest devices to take a look at. This was a fun one. The GMA 500 graphics is weird and quite awful to support unfortunately. Perhaps XP Tablet PC edition or a cut down 7 would be the best choice for an OS, even if they are rather uninteresting!

Personally I don't mind the missing start button. Partly because at the time I was already using wp8 and windows 8 made the experience on my desktop seamless, also I always hit that win key on the keyboard to pull up start anyway. When 8.1 came out, it was a great improvement on tablet and phone, and I don't mind it in desktop environment either. Maybe because I'm heavy on keyboard and shortcut to begin with. For laptop however I was using the last osx, simply because nobody can beat that company' trackpad even though during this time MS came out with precision touchpad. My only gripe was on the server side, skipped srv2012 and held to srv2008r2 until srv2016 came out.

I wonder if Bodhi Linux would work on that touchscreen?

yeah, Windows 8 was so badly received by the public that they made Windows 8.1 which brought the start button back, either way i hated using both of them, 8 just got rid of the menu as a whole and 8.1 just kind of shoehorned it back in as an afterthought.

I would love to see this running Linux.

My first exposure to Windows 8 was on a tablet designed for it, the HP Stream 7. And honestly, on a tablet designed for Windows 8 it wasn't too bad. Unfortunately they really half reared the design of the hardware so it has a 32bit uefi so it can't run 64bit windows even though it has a 64bit processor so it's forever stuck in the past. I yearn for a similar device, around 7 inches, runs desktop windows, has at least 8gb of ram. I would immediately make it my primary portable computer. Unfortunately everyone seems to be goo goo ga ga for 12+ inch tablets which are too big to fit in a pocket. I can't even find an android tablet with flagship specs at the small screen size I want. Apparently if you want a small screen in a compact device that also means you want budget specs.

makes me want another umpc. one that isnt either too old or too expensive.... hmmm

Windows 8/8.1 was pretty good IMO, I quite liked the tile-based Start menu

I used both 8 and 8.1 for a total of two and a half years before 10 came out. Really, I had no issues with 8 or 8.1 in my daily usage, same thing with Vista. I’m not really having issues with 11 either. Of course, I used 7 for a number of years. Good ol’ XP has been in use by me since 2002. I don’t use it as much anymore, but it does come in handy.

Bedankt

I think that Linux should be able to handle the touchscreen

Very interesting video

I really liked Windows 8 controversial lol. It shines with a touch device like a tablet, but indeed for most desktop PCs without touch screens etc, it's not a great idea to replace the desktop with the tiles as the main focus. With a modern windows tablet, you cant get the old tiled display which is disappointing.

If you can look past the lack of a Start Menu, Windows 8.x was a surprisingly solid OS. At its foundation it built on Windows 7, and I found on earlier machines it ran better than Windows 7. The lack of a Start Menu is also solved with Classic Shell or Start8. I used this setup on a 2006 DELL XPS M1730 for a while and it worked really well. As for the Viliv, unfortunately that graphics chip is a complete non-starter and is really the black sheep in the Intel GMA family. Claimed to be an Intel GMA chip, it's in fact a rebranded PowerVR SGX 535 which wasn't a bad mobile GPU to be fair - but it has awful, awful drivers. Which is a shame because if it had better driver support, I'm sure it'd be a solid GPU.

2:11 there is a very similar Asus UMPC called the R2H. I had one back in the day and regretted not just getting a 7 inch eee instead.

I wonder how well it could handle ReactOS or EmuELEC. If I had one, I think I'd updrade the SSD, and dual boot XP or 7 for playing old games, and Debian + XFCE for going online.

its like a car multimidia system

Try running the same games in Windows XP and see how far that gets ya.

I have actually used Windows 8.1. I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro in 2013. It had Win8.1 and since it was purely a tablet, I thought it worked great on it, excellent even. I liked it better than Win10 when in tablet mode. This lil thing looks neato, I also always loved UMPCs, ever since seeing the Vaio UX50 on display in a Best Buy. For me, it enough just owning something so small and cool and even if it is a bit useless, even the thought of the potential of something if it were perfect is also good enough. I have another Windows 8.1 tablet, from Insignia, it is extremely useless but it has a MicroSD card slot accessible from the side along with the Micro USB port and also a Micro HDMI port. If it were faster, with that Micro HDMI port I could have a special HDMI cable and a very large SD card and play almost any media I wanted, whereever I wanted on any HDMI screen. But alas, it is far too slow to even do that. But I still keep it know that such is a possibility. I'd personally leave this on XP and use it for like music and a weather display or something small like that.

Windows 8 was definitely the first major step away from the maximal interfaces from the 90s and 2000s. Some of the color and nature imagery still persisted but everything was definitely flattened and minimized. I kinda hate how the market demands rhese strict trends to cycle rarher than allowing freedon to express how they want at any time.

wish they still made PCs like these, i love the oqo but the specs are so bad its un-usable today.

the Asus R2H also lacks a built in keyboard.

Remix OS is an Android OS that has a desktop mode and a dedicated tablet mode for touchscreen devices. It uses Android 6 but still has support for most apps/ Playstore. It comes in 32bit and 64bit versions. If you decide to try it and need any file or apk I will be happy to share what I have. I still use Remix OS on x86 hardware for game emulation, ftp server, media, and more. Remix OS can be installed to a usb 3.0 drive with persistence via Rufus. Don't use the Rufus settings for persistence, just burn the iso as you would normally.

You should try to let the Windows 8 install all the drivers automatically. Also by letting it install all the Windows updates, you should eventually get the normal Start button.

Viliv! I have a Viliv N5 in my closet somewhere. Absolutely terrible keyboard... ended up with it because the mbook bz was way backordered in those days.

DEFCON!

Nice one . When is a handset, not a palmtop? ..😅

Thank you for another video! I would actually keep this system with windows xp, if you are looking for a nice PC to try out 8/8.1, you should give Dell Venue 8 Pro a try. It's an atom-based tablet that handles 8.1 pretty well, just beware that there are like 20 different versions of the tablet, ranging from 1 to 4GB of ram, at least 2 different screen resolutions and probably 4 different CPUs. If you want to get the "best" one, it would be the model 5855.

I am an original owner of a Viliv S5. They definitely work better with XP. 8 is too much for the limited CPU on it. Games from 2001 to 2004 are better. But Flight Simulator 2002 won't run on it. After many years of trying to find a good use for it I think it's best for like a journal or something.