War thunder sucks

War Thunder would be so much better if they limited units for each side to being contemporaries. Putting WWII units up against Cold War and beyond units is stupid.

Seriously pushing ads for a Russian company?

How long would this be valid for?

Hey Mr. Felton. As a comparison to nazi Germany to a current similar regime, could you upload videos on Walter Stennes and Ernst Röhm's "protests" against their leader? William Partlett correctly compared Russia and Nazi Germany in his recent "WHY PRIGOZHIN’S MARCH ON MOSCOW WAS NOT A COUP", and those two came to mind.

Herr Hendriks i am glad that wrote everything down also! 15 minutes ago i looked a google maps for photos of Elst. it seems to be a very pleasant place for sure. amongst the photos there is one of a memorial to the 82 nd Airborne. my humble thanks to the people there . a resident of New Amsterdam, Ray Tonns

Elst is one of the most beautiful small villages ever. I would drive through there sometimes. I lived in Kleve and my daughter went to school in Arnhem.

My grandmother is from Nijmegen and she also was evacuated to Belgium. She needed to walk every day to the square of a town in Belgium to look if there names where there so that they could return to Nijmegen. She is still alive, trying to ask her a lot of stuff and make audio recordings. She is 92 atm. Eventually I want to make a short animation film from the story of my grandmother.

@@raymondtonns2521 Just a heads-up: "Herr" is a German term, not a Dutch one. "Meneer" would be the Dutch equivalent to "Mister (Mr)" or "Herr".

@@Kholdaimon neem me niet kwalijk

*Dutchman, Dutch is not the correct reference to referring yourself as 'a' Dutch.

Piemel, penis, potato, tomato.@@DutchGuyMike

@@hermanvanspringel6981 Eikel ook en ik ben engelse of voor mike een engelseman 🙃

If you get a chance, read Antony Beevor's book about Arnhem. We in Britain know of Kate ter Horst, but Beevor expands upon the heroism and sacrifice of Dutch civilians during Market Garden.

@@DutchGuyMike Never tell another man what to call himself or how to spell his name. He knows better than you.

Well the Canadians were always there as empire / british commonwealth. Quite often they just get placed with british for recognition. British Empire was one power in ww2, so the Canadian contribution was massive, it wasn't just assistance, they were one of the superpowers. There were Canadian divisions in many ww2 british armies. It is nice to see them recognised.

Except the use of the wrong (idiot modern) flag to depict Canadian troop movements.

@@projektkobra2247 I missed that. While it is "incorrect", I don't know what to say about "idiot modern". It is dumb to use it in past maps, but the modern flag itself is inspired by the Canadian military, and even the old flag has always had small maple leaves.

'Assistance' That is top US main character syndrome here.

​@@arjenh7214 Well, I'm Canadian and I know we weren't as huge or armed as the US or Soviets. I don't mean "assistance" in any other form than it's original meaning for "helping". We all "assisted" each other, there is no main winner of World War 2. I'm not trying to stir anything up like everyone else.

I completely agree. The Western allies love air power and The Germans loved to win tank vs tank duels, but it's artillery that wins wars.

We need to start the Second World War again and get it done properly! 😂

@@fatdaddy1996and that’s why the western proxy war will ultimately fail in Ukraine.

I’d be curious to know for the Ukraine war if artillery is really the number one APC and Tank killer. Part of me thinks it may actually be javelins and NLAWS

I spent years getting to know a vet from 3RD AD 83RD RECON...Who was WAY the hell out front of 3RD AD and the entire allied army...he told me when they needed the German tanks removed they preferred P47 thunderbolts...he said the bomb just had to land near it and the concussion flew the turret off.

I saw a TV documentary about this a few years ago, hosted by Al Murray. Decisions like this were made by Attenborough et al to make the Yanks look better and the Brits look stupid. The funding for the movie came from the Yanks. Sad.

@@raypurchase801 if youre that smart go make a better movie.

​@@Humanoidablewhat a stupid comment

@@Humanoidable What an incredibly moronic response

Its one of my favourite war films..loved it since a kid..an unfortunate set of blunders lost us it..monty wasn’t up to scratch

You Should visit Oosterbeek in September during the commemoration of the battle. it is worth it!

what's wrong with Nijmegen pictures I've seen look very nice - everybody can't hate it

@@bigwoody4704 We love the bridge, it is city's symbol, but we hate that it is covered in graffiti. A few years ago the bridge was renovated, but there was not enough money to repaint the bridge. As its a national monument the government gets to decide and they decided to let it be as it is for another 10 years.

@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 ya that goes on everywhere unfortunately. Thumbs up to the Dutch who paid a terrible price,between the Honger Winter and their male population getting shipped off to the Reich to be slaves really - hope things are well there and getting better

Real

Yawn.

Hooyah to that.

Agreed

Real

I want physical proof

Pathetic to be honest.

Very typical and poignant-Monty had an overinflated ego. Every truly great general is at least thoroughly loved by his own troops;he wasn't really. There was sort of a mistrust. But the general english public viewed him as a genius.....

They just didn't know. Ike should have let Patton have all the resources he gave to Monty for Market Garden. And Monty knew there was German armor in the area, disregarded it and that's what screwed whole operation up. Yes Monty messed it all up from J street and most historians agree. War might have indeed ended much earlier if had given all that stuff to the best general Patton instead!

​​​@@woodrowpreacely7521unds like the ignorance is yours. Americans simply don't like Montgomery, but refuse to learn anything about him beyond the fact that he came up with this plan. The plan Eisenhower approved. The armour was NOT in the area. The Germans got it there at a very admirable speed. It already being there was made up for the movie. I have respect for Patton by the way, but if you think he was the best, or didn't do anything wrong or make any mistakes...you honestly need to read up on him a bit more.

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Dont forget the frikandellen speciaal that were given to the troops by the Dutch government!

Mark's Attention to detail and locating the IKEA in the correct historical defensive location is why I keep coming back to his channel.

@@FallNorth So true, there's no historical detail without knowing where IKEA is.

The Germans got their Sausage and Beer from Lidl Arnheim. Maybe Mark can do a small follow up about the collapse of the IKEA furniture.

Are you insane? Every aspect of that war has been analyzed to death. Moreover, I wouldn't believe 99% of what you are allowed to hear on KZfaq. Mark Felton is shameless liar.

@@EnvironmentalEnglish ur dum

@@EnvironmentalEnglish It's a failure unless you want to call the Schlieffen offensive in WWI a success

Monty Garden was a debacle the Port of Antwerp could have been opened.Supplying all 3 Allied Army groups. American Trucks could not keep lugging supplies all the way from Cherbourg 483 miles away Why IKE allowed Monty to have his way is a head scratcher many said to shut up the yapping jackel and that it did

That is history Englishman you need to stop practicing British Mythology. Bernard got scarce as HIS plan came apart almost immediately.Why don't you cross the channel - that shouldn't take you 4 years like it did Monty. Of course after the big boys came 3500 miles to make sure he didn't get Dunkirked again *Why did Horrocks,Dempsey,Vandeleur sit on their arses in their tanks at the Belgian Border until the Troop & Supply transports flew over at **2:30** in the Afternoon? Did they think they would catch up? If they were charging hard like Horrocks had promised they could have made the bridge at Son before it got blown.* The Armored column made it a whole 7 miles the 1st day as Panzerfaust teams taking out 9 Shermans 3 miles from the start .Bringing the whole column to a halt .This of course wasn't their fault but Monty's pathetic planning.This operation is a prime example of the clownish incompetence of his command. But in Britain that get you the title of Field Marshall You think Monty could have inconvenienced himself to attend his own operational debacle that after the war he fessed up to? Largest Air Drop in History up until that point and the poof couldn't be bothered? There were cock ups all the way back to the Belgian Border and it didn't involve Gavin or the 82nd.Ya but go ahead and try to blame this abortion on an Americans 55 miles down the road. *And why did Horrocks,Dempsey,Vandeleur leave the bridging equipment in the rear when the Germans blew the bridge over Wilhelmina Canal the 1st day? That might have come in handy don't you think ? While approaching an objective with 17 bridges over 12-13 rivers/canals? All 3 Senior British officers and NOT ONE thought of this glaring over site?*

The following year? It was 6 months later! What a badas

My mother and three siblings lived in Nijmegen before and during the war. My brother was very traumatized during his life.😢

I crossed the bridge of Nijmegen last Friday.(Cause 4 daagse)

I live in Duiven, study in Nijmegen and work in Arnhem. I knew about fighting on the Island but never knew how much fighting there was. I've been in Huissen a ton of times and no one ever told me the village was flattened and 106 civilians were killed there for example.

he talks about the 506 Parachute div, that's the Band of Brothers company.

Yeah it was we have two daddy's now days

Came here to say the exact same thing .

@@josefmengele181 You are despicable...

90 per cent apparently

the first howler is a 2:00, where Mr Felton says that the first bridge was captured by the 101st on the 8th September, and those assigned to 82nd the same day. Given that the 8th September was the initial planned date for Operation Comet and no US forces were even part of Comet, it's a real faux par. It's even more galling with regards to the 82nd as they never did take the road bridge at Nijmegen. Yes, the 504PIR crossed the river in that infamous and heroic attempt in boats obtained from the engineers of 30 Corps (& steered by engineers of 30 Corps), but the 504PIR didn't get to the road bridge at all - that was taken by the tanks of the Grenadier Guards, with additional covering fire from 505PIR. The units of 30 Corps would have been in Arnhem within their 48 hours if this road bridge at Nijmegen had been already in US hands, like the one at Grave was.

My Uncle was awarded the Dutch Bronze Cross for his actions during the attack on Walcheren. He was serving with the British Essex regiment attached to a British Commando unit.

@@nickjung7394 other way around - assume the commando unit was attached to his regiment.

@@uncletimo6059 yes, you are correct. He retained his Essex cap badge.

I have that same memory of being at the menin gate on the 100th anniversary of the battle of Ypres, where our great uncle was killed when his howitzer battery was counter shelled by a German battery. To hear the last post was profoundly moving, especially given the anniversary and all the officers and generals standing amongst the townspeople, who come out EVERY night, with their families oftentimes, to honour the last post for the foreign soldiers from Britain and the allied armies who died and fought to save their little villages. Even the kids come out, and it's absolutely humbling to witness. The Belgians never ever leave that daily last Post sounded without presence. Glorious testament to the difference our lads made.

What a place to live!!! We visit our beautiful island every May for the TT races and have a deep affection for the islanders. God bless your races.

@@NiSiochainGanSaoirse That’s another isle, called Man. The island I referred to was the isle of men 🫢👍🏻

prove it

There is a Canadian cemetery in Groesbeek, near Nijmegen where you have the most amazing view on the landscape the soldiers lost their lives for… It’s very impressive.😔

​@samuelclaessens7699 they didn't lose their lives for the landscape, they were cannon fodder for international jewish finance

Fun fact? What's funny in a war?

Ha mede Nijmegenaar!

Was there a month ago, amazed by the amount of small memorial bridges too.

NICK - Monty the troll knew exactly what he had and was warned but he ordered this pis poor plan that had been scrapped when it was both Linnet then Comet. Monty knew all the prat falls & they could only do 1 drop because it was 300 miles one way and the much shorter days but slappies keep repeating that drivel to get Monty off of the hook

Someone attacked a Bride?

​@@BA-gn3qbThey slammed cake in her face!

@@nowthatsfunny1 It was damn good triple layer swiss chocolate ice cream cake too! None of that fondant crap either!!

Napoleons generals once told him, "The English are the very devil in defence"

​@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-Napoleon said britain has been saved by geography

@@SergyMilitaryRankings Poor excuse

@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- excuse ? France alone defeated the military Superpowers of the day 6 times out of 8 , Napoleon humilated Britain

@@SergyMilitaryRankings Does that include getting his navy utterly destroyed at Trafalgar and the Nile?

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Why are you so jealous Josef?

@@SerenityMae11 why should I be jealous about a third world African caliphate? It's what you all fought for

If you're fed up with all the Montgomery bashing from our cousins over the pond, I can recommned reading from more recent research that has revised the conventional narrative on Market Garden that started with Cornelius Ryan's unfinished book (he had terminal cancer in 1974) and the Hollywood film loosely based on it, A Bridge Too Far (1977). The film had an anti-establishment British director and American producer, and screenwriter William Goldman had previously written Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid (1969). The implications in the book, more pronounced in the film, was that the heroic Americans were trying to save an incompetent British disaster. It seems that now all the key figures have long since passed away, historians are going back to unpublished primary sources and finding records of a different narrative on what really happened, which had been covered up in official records and the public perception whitewashed by a Hollywood film. The best overall history is probably Swedish historian Christer Bergström's Arnhem 1944: An Epic Battle Revisited, vols 1 and 2 (2019, 2020), which uses unpublished documents and interviews in the Cornelius Ryan Collection held at Ohio State University. A book explaining how the air planning process was carried out, based on previous German and Allied airborne experience, is by Sebastian Ritchie - Arnhem: Myth and Reality: Airborne Warfare, Air Power and the Failure of Operation Market Garden (2011, revised 2019). Sebastian Ritchie also authored the RAF's study of the one aerial photo showing German tanks in the Arnhem area that recently came to light in a Dutch Government archive when it was digitised in 2015. The story of Browning dismissing this photo out of hand relied entirely on his Intelligence Officer Major Brian Urquhart's interview with Cornelius Ryan, as both Browning and the photo were long gone. The photo confirms Browning's judgment and justifies his widow's upset over the way he was portraayed in the film. The study is available as a free pdf download called 'Arnhem: The Air Reconnaissance Story' from the Air Historical Branch (Royal Air Force) on the MoD website. Your tax pounds at work! The critical error that occured at Nijmegen on the first day was fatal to the entire operation, but was completely ignored or missed by Cornelius Ryan and therefore not in the film either. The film was released just two years after the fall of Saigon and the end of the Vietnam War and American theatre audiences continued to queue around the block for Star Wars instead of wanting to watch another Allied defeat. There was no way the real story of what happened in Nijmegen would even be filmed by Hollywood. There's nothing in it for American audiences. For book references I would recommend: Lost At Nijmegen, RG Poulussen (2011) Put Us Down In Hell - A Combat History of the 508th PIR in WW2, Phil Nordyke (2012) September Hope - The American Side to a Bridge Too Far, John C McManus (2012) There's also TIKhistory channel's KZfaq videos on Market Garden, particularly the videos on Browning and Gavin, which manage to drill down to Gavin as the one most to blame, although a reading of the 508th regimental history would reveal Gavin was only responsible rather than directly at fault. The fault lies in the regiment's command, which goes back to Normandy and the formation of the 508th, which is why Nordyke's regimental history is so important for the background and context.

Thats cope, the whole idea of this operation was to breach into Germany, it failed and the Allies didnt cross over until april 45 in this sector.

It did succeed in thinning out the krauts

@@robinderoos1166 even in this case its a dubious success, most of the German units in the area suffering high losses were in fact 2nd or 3rd rate ones unlike the airborne forces and british guards units...Read "It ever snows in september" for a German pov on Market Garden, its kinda shocking with what kind of crappy units the Germans actually won.

@@DD-qw4fz if the 82nd airborne had followed the plan the Outcome might have been a lot different!

@@garythomas3219 well thats the issue if the plan cannot survive even one serious setback then its a bad plan. Market Garden would have worked only, ONLY if everything went perfectly, and that never happens in war.

Monty ordered this forward and the British Column sat on it's ass until 2:35 in the after noon at the Belgian Border and watched the transports fly over. Did they think they somehow would catch up?The tanks NEVER showed up on time and in force like Horrocks promised - because of Monty's crap planning

@@bigwoody4704nice try, but it’s the American failure at Nijmegen that caused the real delay and failure. Simple fact that American history seems to overlook for some reason…….

Stick to facts with British forces being "evacuated" from: Norway,Netherlands, Belgium and France,Dunkirk in 1940 Greece, Crete,Hong Kong and Libya in 1941 Tobruk and Dieppe,Singapore in 1942 If the Americans were bad Monty should have stayed home and saved a bunch of Englishmen. Monty had FOUR FULL YEARS to cross the Channel why wait for the GIs - ya Empire. Your crown usually fought to the last colonial - usually the Aussies

@@bigwoody4704 Yes, the British were pushed out of many areas in the early years of the war. Something about peacetime armies with outdated equipment going up against opponents who had been mobilizing for several years... 1942 truly was the turning point year. The Axis had advanced as far as they would ever go, and the Allies were beginning to learn how to beat them at their own game. The Americans were not bad, but inexperienced and not as strategic as the British were. As to your comment about Monty having "4 years to cross the channel," you seem to forget that 1) it wasn't Monty's decision to make, 2) he wasn't in command all 4 of those years, 3) Churchill was fighting tooth and nail to go towards the Balkans in order to keep the Soviets out, and 4) The British were in no position to make the cross-channel invasion alone. Trying to bash "ya empire" for "fighting to the last colonial" is 1960s counterculture pretending its unrealistic expectations made them smarter, and justifying their "year zero" idealism.

the only thing Churchill knew of Military Campaigns was mismanagement, he couldn't dislodge the Germans let alone block the Russians.He was using GIs to hang o to Britsh Interests .He took 50 thousand troops from General O'Connor - the original Desert Fox after his complete victory. And put them in Greece/Crete and it was disasterous in both places and weakened the Desert army also it may have led to O'Connor getting captured. And if Monty was all of that it shouldn't have been a problem - only 30 miles. And of course Gallipoli in the 1st war for winnie. By the summer of 1944 Monty's star had faded,specially after Sicily/Italy/Caen/Falaise .What he won he won with overwhelming superiority in men, materials,ULTRA and air support. And then barely.......and poorly.Not because of maneuver,guile or tactics. Churchill wrongly removed General Auchinleck who argued that his men had not regrouped and needed reinforcing. Several military analysts accused Churchill of misunderstanding desert warfare tactics, saying he placed too much emphasis on territorial occupation Auchileck/Dorman-Smith stated they needed 6 weeks to refit,reinforce and resupply. Made perfect sense attrition on men and materiel,sand took it's toll on tanks and artillery. So what does Monty do - took 10 weeks(Aug-13-Oct 23) to advance​ - much more time than Auchileck and Dorman Smith insisted on and got fired for in the 1st place. And it was just under 2700 nautical miles to italy Marshall/IKE weren't going to keep dragging men and materiel past that FFS when France was 30 miles across the way it was idiocy. Going thru the straight of Gibralter was a choke also easy to pick off ships. It is fantasy that the Atlantic wall was any where near complete Rommel actually started on it in earnest in Jan '44. The Germans kept taking pictures of finished bunker casements from different angles to make it appear it was one solid fortress from Switzerland to the North Sea. He did get alot of beach ostacles,traps,mines tec. And back to the original point it was abslutely Monty's decicion to go ahead with Market Garden - all of SHAEFF insisted on opening the Port of Antwerp - to supply any/all of the 3 Allied Army groups moving forward. They couldn't keep dragging supplies from Cherbourg 483 miles into the upper Netherlands

True...but mainly who has the most men and resources, as was the case here.

Kelly's Heroes were the winners because they'd got what they'd wanted.

And those offensives along with the Scheldt could have used the resources squandered by Market Garden.

@@markgarrett3647 Could also say that Market Garden could have used the resources squandered by Hodges in Hurtgen and Patton in Lorraine

@@32shumble No cramming a force roughly the size of two Corps' in a single road with mostly muddy ground on either side and with lots of rivers and bridges to cross is nuts even according to Ike himself who approved the hair-brained scheme that was Market Garden by Monty.

Not really Terrain restricted movement Other wise wouldn’t go down one road

@@markgarrett3647 not sure if its as nuts as approving to attack a forest and fortress with little strategic value held by cooks and men with stomach ulcers. Also the ground forces of market garden were actually successful. It was the airborne that failed.

A Bridge Too Far is only 50% historically accurate, so half of what you see in the film is either deceptive and about 10% is complete fiction. Cornelius Ryan's book terminates early because he had terminal cancer and published the book before it was complete, and of course the film is loosely based on the book and even more incomplete. I can recommend two books, first Robert Kershaw's It Never Snows In September (1990), which was the first work on the German side of the battle and continues into this period after Operation Market had terminated with the evacuation of 1st Airborne Division on 25/26 September, while Operation Garden continued until 7 October. The only caveat is that the German order of battle is now out of date and even carries over an inaccurate unit identification from a German book published in 1975. I also recommend Christer Bergström's Arnhem 1944: An Epic Battle Revisited vols 1 and 2 (2019, 2020), which goes back to unpublished documents and interviews in the Cornelius Ryan Collection held at Ohio State University, and also seeks to debunk many of the myths in A Bridge Too Far.

Chubby old guys running around in faux ww2 uniforms startched and new equipment. A tribute or Insult to ww2 sacrifices

@@Eric-kn4yn yes the equipment was well kept..and there were chubby people...but it was a reenactment of what happened..I interesting to me..

@@fordfairlane662dr what happened Minüs blood guts shooting prisoners civilians houses destroyed. Yes I probably would have gone to see from australia

My mother lived in one of the houses overlooking the bridge at Arnhem. She and her family were evacuated to Apeldoorn shortly before the attack, on foot. She was 3 years old. They lost everything, including most of her toys. She remembered that for the rest of her life.

@@jwenting What a story! I know some families from Oosterbeek with similar stories. They never expected such a peaceful place to turn into the frontline some day. Happy we didn’t have to go through this.

cost of freedom..... rhetoric.

Freedom 😂😂 yeah.. good one.

I thought I'd misheard it, but then picked up a few more errors and posted them above. Minor details. I wonder if Mark has someone type up a script from an audio dictation or handwritten notes, because they seem to be 'typo' type errors that have crept in somehow. The content is essentially correct, as I'm familiar with this period in Market Garden, otherwise I wouldn't spot them.

steam , i salute your great grand dad

I would also recommend this book but with the caveat that it is the pioneering work on the German side, just as Cornelius Ryan's A Bridge Too far was the first popular published account from the Allied side. Rob Kershaw was a Parachute Regiment officer serving in the British Army of the Rhine (BAOR) in the 1980s and was a liaison officer to the West German Army and spoke German. He was asked by the staff college at Sandhurst to research the German side of Market Garden as he had access to the German army records. My main complaint about this book is that Rob translated all the German military nomenclature into English, instead of using the original German and providing a glossary (this may have been a recommendation by the publisher). This makes it difficult to check the myriad German units out and research them further. He also misidentified some units and fell victim to the fact that many German units are referenced by up to three different names - the official designation, the name of the commander, and the home base. So the potential for creating an Order Of Battle (in the appendix) that has more German units than actually existed is obvious. Having found the Korps Feldt records online now, I can see where he has gone wrong in a few places. The other main fault is copying an earlier one made made by Wilhelm Tieke, a former member of the 9.SS-Panzer-Division 'Hohenstaufen' who wrote a history of the II.SS-Panzerkorps in his book In The Firestorm Of The Last Years Of The War (1975), in which it is claimed the German vehicles seen at the southern end of the corridor around Valkenswaard were Jadgpanzer IV tank destroyers from SS-Obersturmbannführer Erwin Röstel's SS-Panzerjäger-Abteilung 10, when in fact this unit was detached from 10.SS-Panzer-Division to 7.Armee and operating near Valkenburg in Limburg with all 21 Jadgpanzer IV/L48 tank destroyers fighting the Americans. Kershaw believed that 4 of Röstel's vehicles were left behind with the division and sent to Nijmegen. He correctly describes them as assault guns, because they were in fact 4 StuG IIIG from 7./SS-Panzer-Regiment 10. The vehicles seen near Valkenswaard in Market Garden belonged to schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung 559 and included a Jadpanther from the 1.Kompanie and StuG IIIG from the 2 and 3.Kompanien. So long as the reader is aware the book is out of date, it is still the most outstanding pioneering work from the German point of view, and a lead into further research with more recent specialist books on specific German units.

That's how I feel whenever I see the millions of Soviets from across the USSR too, and in China

@@Shellslime Agreed, but would call them "Russians," who are a people, rather than "Soviets" who for decades were the political driving force behind the slaughter.