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I wish he'd talk more about how historically good cards have been- Sure, mirror force is bad now, but that sucker spent time on the forbidden and limited list for years.

You can tell rarran is a hearthstone player because he desperately wanted flying elephant to be good.

To be fair Rarran was absolutely on the money with trishula, for a very long time, it used to be a banned card cause you could summon 3 of them turn 1 and you opponent had to start with only 2 cards in hand, to the point that a few years later a weaker version of trishula dominated the game and had to be limited also. it just got powercreeped hard. Also, a good point towards borrelsword is that most boss monsters have effect and targeting protection, but not battle protection so it was also used as pseudo removal.

I'm questioning some of the judgements, Trishula doesn't "suck". It has been partly power crept, but the effect is still strong.

I'm slightly disappointed Stevie didn't tell you about Trish Loop when he talked about how Trishula used to be pretty good. There's an archetype in the game called Infernity, who all have very powerful effects but cannot use them unless there are no cards in your hand. None of the relevant effects were hard once per turns either, and there was at one point a (very, VERY long) loop through which Infernity could summon the same copy of Trishula an infinite number of times in one turn by constantly sending it back to the extra deck and resummoning it over and over again to banish your opponent's entire hand before they take a turn. Yeah, there were more practical ways to play Infernity, but Trish Loop was definitely something.

Re: Crossout Designator, it came out in the OCG (Japan) much earlier than in TCG (everywhere else). The OCG has a different meta because of having a different banlist, and in the OCG it's much more likely that you are running the same staples/handtraps so it was pretty powerful there. TCG players expected it to be the same in TCG so it was super hyped up when it was revealed to be releasing here, but it flopped because the meta was different. That's what Stevie was referring to when he said it was really expensive for like 2 weeks.

You should make a episode were Stevie shows you certain archetypes and break their gimmick down and you try to guess if they're good or bad.

Dogmatika punishment is also playable because there is an engine that can search it!!!. Might actually be a bigger reason for the playability of the card.

"[Crossout Designator] is not a card you would want to use as part of a combo" *Swordsoul Supreme Sovereign - Chengying has entered the chat*

Stevie should of properly explained how Synchro Summons work for Trishula. It might of been done off screen but the fact that you need 3 monster and for the levels to add up matters. Card type is the reason why Links are usually broken despite simple effects while there are some fusion, equip, and rituals with broken effects that see no play. So just glossing over things feels kinda of unfair.

Borrelsword dragon is arguably one of the most impactful card ever released in yugioh. Since it gives so many decks the ability to one turn kill, killing your opponent in one turn. Before this card's release, only selected decks centered around summon big monsters can OTK, but with this card, if you can put at least 5 monster on board, you can just summon this card and end the game by turn 2 or 3. However, this card is largely outshined by another card released a couple years later called accesscode talker, which is better at clearing boards than borrelsword while still making it relatively easy to OTK.

26:20 The fact that he's saying a card in hearthstone that could set a hero to a specific health would be super strong because you could lethal out of nowhere, but he's completely forgetting Alexstrasza existed and did just that for years.

rarran was very close to describing the power level of these cards. seems like he understands yugioh better now

"I think, this is the only moment i need to actually start playing Yu-Gi-Oh." - Raran's famous last words 💀

I think one thing that Stevie should mention more is if the card was good in the past (like Mirror Force at its core being absolutely insane but just being powercrept out of the game)

There's a fundamental flaw in Stevie's perspective that probably need to be addressed. A card being powercrept does not make a card "bad." It's just no longer "the best." Many of these cards spent years limited or banned and at points were metagame defining. No one talks about any competitive endeavor like this. Imagine calling Paul Morphy or Bobby Fischer bad chess players because they played in a time before chess engines existed, or Michael Jordan a bad basketball player because he played in a time where talent acquisition and development was nowhere near what it is today. History matters, just saying.

I think Stevie needs to cut Rarran some more slack, he was really close on some of those, I would've hyped my boy up more

I wish Stevie would give Rarran more context on a card's history, 'cause he makes some cards seems worst than they are because they suck in Yugioh's current NEGATE OR DIE metagame

This guy saying Trish is bad though. There's a reason this monster was limited till the most recent banlist. It's a demon in decks that can run it effectively. (as few as they are) Unlike The ritual or Fusion variant it doesn't have to target all three and hand ripping is banned for a reason. This card can basically be a confiscation in the right deck. If you get three of these guys running around you've got a real headache to deal with.

I might be misunderstanding but when Rarran was guessing Flying Elephant he kept being like "If your opponent can't answer this". Am I crazy to think that you just don't answer this card at all?

So on the most part Stevie is really good, however there is a couple of ones that probably need a bit more context tbh. So I would argue you're actually more on the mark with Borrelsword, the card was good on release and has been a pivotal part of giving decks that struggled to win games or have good win conditions and tried to grind card advantage for the win had a better way to finish games. However since then we have been given better cards like accesscode which effectively is a better way to win as it has big stats and an effect that destroys multiple cards and cant be responded to and fixes out on the issue of just having an effect which double attacks for the very reason you evaluated that yeah just battle effects aren't amazing usually in yugioh. Tyrants Neptune was out for years and didn't see any play but because of an FTK it enabled and the fact that copy effects can do stuff that RND didn't account for it was banned. The card itself never saw proper competitive play because you wouldn't consistently be able to do the FTKs before it was banned, but it was banned to prevent future issues and also to prevent unfun experience's for players. Drident is not even close to one of the best XYZ monsters printed, no idea why Stevie even said a comment like that, this card is more interesting because popping one card a turn compared to other cards people use to make crazy turn one boards is very unimpressive however the easy access to summon and what is perceived as the fact that zoodiac is played a lot more when it was unbanned quite quickly after having dominated the game when it was last legal is why it was banned. The power level itself isn't particularly outlandish however Yugioh also likes to use banlists and sets to rotate what people play for events and zoodiac can stymie this. Trishula can have more of a thought into it also. Because there have been times where decks have created loops where you can summon Trishula 5 times turn one and even some cases summon it in your opponent's turn after and have them lose because they have no cards. The reason why even with these sort of combos and decks its not good is because you can rely on needing too many combo cards to enable this to happen and for much less resources you can create fields that effectively do the same thing far more often. Would be cool for you to do Master Duel and after watching your MTG arena runs should be a lot of fun! If you do anything besides the Solo modes though I would recommend getting Stevie to help you start off the PVP modes as unlike MTG giving you battles against people using pre constructed decks also, thats not the case in Master Duel and you could easily be overwhelmed from the first games you play unfortunately.

I'm still relatively new to Yu-Gi-Oh, but one of the things Stevie neglected to mention is that Zoodiac Drident (at [5:04]) led to one of the few "Tier Zero" formats in the history of the TCG (which I believe is defined as a format where _one specific deck_ wins over 65% of the events it's used in). Because of the whole gimmick of the Zoodiac archetype it was (and still is) _hilariously_ easy to summon a Drident with multiple materials attached to her (which means she can destroy multiple cards over time as long as she survives) and maybe even a few extra effects. Granted, Drident _alone_ wasn't what led to Zoodiac's dominance - there were a number of troublesome cards which enabled the deck - but Drident was always one of their win conditions.

Yu gi oh Master Duel has absolutely SICK music. Whether you play it alone or with a coach, I wholeheartedly hope you enjoy the experience. And remember, "missing the timing" is a concept designed by Satan himself.

I think the main thing for flying elephant is that ur opponent has to proc it. Why would you ever use an effect on like a 4/4 minion when you can just trade into it. Plus all "minions" in yugioh essentially have charge, so they just just make an answer.

4:51 "There's not really like an overarching card within the metagame that every single deck has to play around" *cries in Master Duel*

3:30 it seems like Raarran at this point did not realise that you can activate Crossout Designator AS your opponent is activating the effect card to negate it.

Sure Rarran is 6 years old but he can spot a broken card effect from a mile away. Loved the video

Man, it seriously sounds weird to hear Trishula be considered "bad". Just shows how insane powercreep has gotten.

El Shaddoll is a bit of a weird name at first, but if you keep in mind that the name is a combination of Shadow, Doll, and El Shaddai, then it's a pretty damn cool name.

I don't know if he realized this or not but Flying Elephant only has the "Win the Duel" ability, if your opponent tried destroying it last turn. If your opponent 'doesn't have an answer for it' it's literally a vanilla. Also it can still get run over by anything with 1900+ ATK

This cross-game series is so fun to watch for the insights that top players give on what should make a card good in theory

I haven't finished watching but if he says borrelsword is bad I will break

Keep up the great content man, I found your youtube channel about a week ago and I've just been watching through like half the videos over the past week and it got me into playing HS again, since I hadn't played it in years

I always wonder if Stevie is just trolling…. Calling Borrelsword broken after Accesscode is in the game for ages and Borrelsword hasnt seen a single use of play since then, but saying that Dragoon is bad a few episodes ago when everyone wanted Dragoon getting banned for a few months…. both got power crept the very same way… Also calling Neptune busted seems very weird… of course he is banned, but thats because of that weird ftk it enables. No one ever played Neptune in a competitive surrounding before it got banned

Some of these require giving him a bit more context imo, otherwise it seems a bit unfair when he potentially came to the wrong conclusion due to lack of information. When he asked what a Synchro summon was for example, the process itself was not explained.

To put context into some cards like Trishula I think your reasoning is correct for calling it good. When it was printed it was amazing to the point it was limited to 1 and even banned at one point. There was a loop where it was extremely broken where you could summon multiple Trishula, however that was a fairly long time ago. The power creep and speed of Yu-Gi-Oh has become so absurd over the years.

Thoughts on each card Mirror Force: Synchro era basically killed this since everyone was running Stardust Dragon, even worse when you set off their Starlight Road and effectively went -a million in gamestate Crossout Designator: Right on the money, this card is insanely good as a tech option since you can even negate Designator with itself, this card sped up the game on its own a decent amount when it's applicable and lets more decks deal with handtraps Zoodiac Drident/Drancia: Part of what made Zoodiac tier one, if the deck was slightly more oppressive it would've been tier zero like TeleDAD, interruption that fast is always insane and valuable Dogmatika Punishment: Wildcard pick since this card is mostly used to make janky decks stronger, using the right cards it's pretty good but you have to remember the ruling around dumping extra deck monsters, it is good in decks that don't need extra deck summons and stall decks El Shaddoll Winda: Very annoying control piece, this thing combined with Grysta and Construct is an absolute nightmare, Shaddolls are past their prime now and can still basically remove an opponent's deck from existence in the right contexts Flying Elephant: I have like 5 copies of this, it's bad, janky, and basically a meme of a wincon, destruction isn't even the most desired removal anymore with spinning and facedown banishes being preffered, good luck running over anything with it even if the wincon becomes live Chaos Space: Discard costs are kinda bad on paper so this one needs the context of Chaos to really be notable, searching BLS Envoy of the Beginning is really good, Chaos is so excessively good with available support that a bunch of their cards are downgrades to other archetypes' and still see a ton of play, but this one's a bit too slow to be a massive staple The Tyrant Neptune: This guy got banned for a few reasons, the main one being futureproofing, the others being that slapping an effect balanced around a body that can be easily ran over with strong stats is insane, Lyrical Luscinia - Independant Nightingale got this one banned along with Supreme King Servant Starving Venom Trishula: This thing brought us true Synchro Supremacy, single handedly made synchros very much worth spamming, can win the game outright if you hit all 3, insane card that, along with Brionac, made Ice Barrier Synchros very strong, until they powercrept it into the abyss and eratta'd it, loses HARD to Crystal Wing Synchro Dragon which is much more preferable and ran more often as a 3 material Synchro Borrelsword: Oh boy this thing doesn't look as good as it is until you see it punch someone in the face for game, great generic game ender and one of the best Borrels along with Savage, shame none of them are locked to Rokkets since that would make them much better balanced Wall of Revealing Light: The wall of sneaky jank is something many would consider strange and bizarre as a card, Reversal Quiz and Life Equalizer are big funny with this thing Pretty good in episode 3, great job!

I love this series! Your getting so good at deciphering Yu-Gi-Oh card text is fun to see the process

I literally just finished watching the other 2 videos you did with Stevie only to see you uploaded this 9 minutes ago. These are actually so entertaining.

I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh I 15 years! And I love seeing how insane new cards are, plus that mirror force start is such a nostalgia hit. I still remember competing in a tournament at 12 with my elemental hero/different dimension deck, ah to be young.

I mean mirror force does still see some play, i think rarran calling it average is actually a pretty good guess Also Trishula isnt to bad either, it was even banned for some time and limited to 1 until may this year...

Love this series! Glad to see another video :)

The best way to explain Traps is like Secrets in Hearthstone. They just kinda sit around most times until they get triggered.

Rarran "Obviously it discards at random because seeing your opponents hand would be stupid" Mtg player : *laugh in gitaxian probe and discard effects*

Stevie's takes are *arguably* some of the most misleading out there. Most of the cards he showed were very good for many formats, but he keeps calling them bad based solely on current meta. If that's the case then Winda should also be called bad, since Shadolls themselves aren't competitive RN. Pot of Greed is also really bad, since no current top decks are using it. Also, guessing how good archetype specific cards are is almost impossible without context, even for YGO players. Drydent, for example, doesn't have such a broken effect until you take into consideration Zoodiacs as a whole. It's even harder to guess when it comes to archetype spells/traps, because often Konami gives the most broken ones as support to archetypes that are completely unplayable.

Stevie and you have a nice chemistry, one of my favorite guests on your channel :)

Please do more of these. I cant get enough of them

-Drident -Hard to summon PFFFFFFT

26:20 I think the counter lethal Rarran might be talking about could be when Paladin had the Un-Nerfed version of Blackguard and having given it Lifesteal to heal you to full and burn down the opponent’s hero.

Thank you for including The Tyrant King Neptune, wanted to see his reaction to more obscure but still great cards like it.

16:07 I miss my old light/dark table-grown gravity bind flip-effect stifle deck. Marshmallon and Yubel ended up taking over the stifle duties when I played online. Such fun “no fun allowed” cards.

Trishula is not a bad card decent to good by todays standards but far from bad his effect is still really strong

Back in my days when we were playing at school i had "Wall of revealing Light" and legit no one could do shit against that :D Most broken for me

The Tyrant Neptune was around for almost 7 years before it was banned as a precaution before Maximum Crisis was released giving the tcg Lyrilusc - Independent Nightingale in 2017

One of the best things to see watching this is seeing him learn and improve and while he is aware of a lot of things he is quick to learn and that is always nice to see.

saying trishula is bad, based on what a terror it was for the longest time and still is sometimes played just hurts my soul

I dunno Zoodiac Drident was an unfair one because you don't summon it normally. There's a lot of context to cards like that that Rarran doesn't have access to

The wall also worked on Last turn FTK, summon jowgen, set the wall and Last turn, pass, activate the wall and get on 1000 LP, use Last turn, select Jowgen, your opponent cannot special summon, so you win automatically.

I appreciate that you do a reactionto Hearthstone and respond to other games too. Love the content, keep it up!

When every deck in OCG is running 3x Maxx C and 3x Ash Blossom, a couple Nibiru and sometimes a couple droll and locks, Crossout Designator is pretty broken. Surprised it isnt even considered good anymore unless Maxx C and Ash are banned in western TCG

ppl critiquing how he’s explaining the cards, and i agree. even on drident, he didn’t explain that any 2 level 4s gets you chakanine, which gets you 3 material drident. he didn’t explain that any deck that plays level 4s gets a drident…pretty important

So as a hearthstone player, let me see if I can translate Borrelsword Dragon (ignoring the link summon stuff cos that has no easy translation): Immune to minions. Charge {cos no summoning sickness}, Windfury. If this attacks an enemy minion, steal half of it’s attack (once per turn). Battlecry: give a minion that can attack “Can’t attack” and Taunt. {idk the exact specifics of Defense position} Is that... roughly correct? Someone who plays both games, please let me know.

As soon as I saw Drident I remembered the silly combo that you could do to make a Tyrant Neptune OTK and wished the card got chosen someday in the future... A few minutes later I got my wish. The universe was never that fast to deliver before

Still baffles me that Konami continues to print super generic extra deck monsters with strong effects. It just makes every deck feel the exact same when they all run the same staple cards, diluting the game as a whole. I mean modern Yugioh is a complete mess as a whole given how quick the games are, but it just feels like Konami is just digging deeper down this hole to see how fucked up they can really make this game

I feel like the older cards should have their power level set to the time period they were released in. Cuz comparing cards from 20 years ago to how well they do in the current format is kinda dumb. I was certain trishula was good. But I might be mixing her up with her Nekroz counterpart. Its also kind of a bait when 99% of cards are only relevant to the archetype they were designed to be in. Analysing them in a vacuum is misleading. But I cant exactly suggest what could be done better.

This is amazing. Love your videos.

Hi Stevie!! Love this series

His take on cross out designator is strange seeing as it’s used to cancel out the major hand traps like ash, belle, ogre. Essentially all decks run ash, and most will run belle or ogre depending on which is better in the format.

Do Cardfight Vanguard plsssss

Can't wait for next ep with Gumblar Dragon and Kaiser Colosseum/Macro Cosmos, and as bait: Phantom of Chaos and Naturia Exterio

24:21 Also don’t forget that when played in the archetype it’s part of, Rokkets, the main deck monsters also have effects that trigger when targeted for an effect from one of your Link monsters, so there’s extra synergy there.

To be honest, Crossout Designater was very strong in OCG as it came out when Nibiru was everywhere and it was a powerful card against it Fun fact: at our local, this card was most of the time used to negate harpie's feather duster, monster reborn and called by the grave more times than it stopped hand traps

You should look into the digimon card game or Cardfight vanguard. I would love to see your reaction to just how the games play lol 😂

I love the Yu-Gi-Oh episodes (mainly because it's the only other card game I know how to play so I can get mad at some of your answers)

More of these kinds of videos would be nice to see more.

Rarran, you need to do one of these on Pvz Heroes. It is incredibly fun and unique. The game is no longer getting updated, but it has so much variety in cards that its irrelevant. It is one of my personal favorites, and I would love to see you evaluate the strength of the cards.

Stevie: "Trishula is a bad Synchro". As a Synchron Player that kinda hurts. I mean it's not the best Synchro monster but it's definitely not a bad card by any means unless your going first.

What would be cool is if he could show you how the card is played as an example so you have a better understanding

It’d be interesting to see him guessing cards like “Gift Card” or “muscle nurse” which seem like a terrible idea just based on the text but are actually broken when paired with another cards effect.

I like this video, but the analysis on some cards frusterates me. Trish being labeled as bad despite spending most of its life limited and seeing constant competitive high tier play, even if it doesn't nowadays, aggravates me.

- Mirror Force is pretty bad by modern standards. Damn. That made me feel old.

My man didn't hesitate with Winda. He knew.🤣

"Banished pile, usually never gonna touch again" Hi! We're Witchcrafters! Our whole gag involves using the void as a resource!

Wait a minute. I have never played yugioh but I have been following yugitubers for at least 4 years now, weird I know. I always heard Trishula dragon of the ice barrier was an insane broken card. It was even on the banlist until recently if I am not mistaken. Apparently Ice barriers is an archetype famous for having terrible main deck cards but insanely powerful extra deck cards, and Trishula was the most powerful one. It was so powerful, it got banned and then had a spiritual successor in Necroz of Trishula which had a slightly weaker effect but it was still one of the most powerful meta decks for a while. And Necroz is a ritual archetype which is usually pretty bad. So why did he say Trishula is bad in this vudeo. I don't get it :/

Saying flying elephant is one of the worst Cards in the Game is an EXTREMELY false Statement. Its Effect May provide Close to no benefit whatsoever, but it is still a Level 4 1850 Attack Beatstick, which is better than SO Many Cards in the Game.

12:33 Rarran: "You need two card effects in a single turn [...] to stop this card from just winning you the game." This quote makes me think Rarran misread Flying Elephant and missed the part of the card where it only OTKs your opponent *if your opponent tried to kill it last turn.* Otherwise I don't think the way he talked about Flying Elephant makes any sense.

Stevie should've put Elder Entiry N'tss next to Dogmatika Punishment. Love the video btw

Stevie is not a very good co-host. He can be entertaining but he seems to know fuck all about the historic relevance and impact some of these cards actually had as well as doing a piss poor job explaining the different kinds of card types in a clear and concise manner. I don’t think Rarran even understands Synchro or Fusion. He somewhat gets Link and Xyz. Overall even though Rarran is suppose to be guessing power levels not knowing how these cards work clearly is kind of unfair to him in an already complicated game.

"drident is one of the best xyz cards ever printed" shock master/wind-up zenmaity, mx saber invoker, calamaties, lavalval chain. all copy card effects suck until an ftk enabling deck came out for them, tyrant neptune and the fusion copier guy the shaddolls need a lot more context for why their broken, ie super poly making the cards +alot, shaddoll fusion being basically +2, its not like winda is a polymerization target going -1 to summon for value later like other fusions who gain value after they are summoned, winda has a broken effect AND what your summoning her with is giving you card advantage and i dont get why youd say "tyrant neptune is broken, but trish isnt" they are both the exact same type of card, super deck dependent, if the deck can abuse their effect they are busted, trish has been historically banned and looped for first turn hand loops. yes at the moment shes probably weaker but tyrant neptune was garbage for 99% of its existence also no mention of the infamous combo, turn 1 set 2, pass turn, opponent draw phase, activate wall of revealing light pay 7000 lp, chain self destruct button LOL

14:04 oh hey! Didn't expect to see non staple card I actually use in here. This shit works real well with thunder dragons.

"monsters swinging at your face is not what you're really worried about", Look at our boy learning Yugioh in just a couple of episodes.

I am getting increasingly frustrated with Stevies inability to explain cards through the lens of someone who doesnt play Yu-Gi-Oh. Rarran kept saying how "if your opponent cant answer Flying Elephant, you just win the duel". I dont think Stewie made enough of an effort in explaining how you dont actually need to target it with an effect, because you can just attack over it. Also how even if the effect does go off, you still need to connect with a direct attack (which is a bit harder in Yu-Gi-Oh than hearthstone). This is just one example, but i feel in general he explains their meta relevance too briefly, and as if he is talking to someone who actually has played a little Yu-Gi-Oh, not someone who has never touched the game. It is almost as if he doesnt try to explain Rarran why his thought processes are wrong, but just has some prewritten explanations he throws out. I will give the benefit of the doubt that they cut some of his explanations in editing, but i doubt it.

Me, a MtG and Hearthstone player: I wish he did more of these videos with MtG instead.

"I don't think anyone's gonna run into that trap" *sad Bandit Keith noises*

“‘kick me’ tied to a nuclear bomb” im dead

Unfortunately the more of these videos I watch the more it becomes clear to me that: 1. it's not the card, it's the deck it's in that makes the real difference. A good card can still see no play because the deck it can fit in is not good enough and a mediocre card can prove good if a deck that plays it is very strong (an example would be skill drain, a card that saw some play throughout yugioh's history but was never considered public enemy number one until qliphorts broke it 10 years after its release). 2. a card's strength should be evaluated when it first comes out. Mirror force was insane on release and remained insane for at least 8 years, calling it a bad card because it's been power crept now makes no sense. Cold wave was bad on release but ended up becoming one of the most powerful blowout cards in history. 3. it's impossible to evaluate most cards if you don't know the interactions they have with the deck they are in. Did you know that on your way to make drident you get to summon 2 rats, reborn a monster and search a beast warrior thanks to the other zoodiacs? Did you know that tyrant neptune, a trash card for all intents and purposes, became broken due to a design oversight with a card that was released years later and promptly banned as a quick fix? Honestly I like the content but it's hard to find cards that are just hard enough to guess while also not requiring an essay of explanation and/or prior knowledge to have any idea what they do or if they are good or not.

- Shows a card that reshaped the entire game's meta, gives next to no details "This card is good" _"YOU IDIOT THIS CARD IS AWFUL SINCE LAST MONTH EVEN THOUGH IT'S AMAZING IN THE OCG WHAT A MORON"_ He's gotta stop doing this, man.

13:50 The thing with Flying Elephant is... sure you can answer it by trying to destroy it twice... or you can just ignore it. The win duel effect only applies if they tried to destroy the card/interacted with the card.. If they ignore, max you just do 1850 to them. A decent set monster can defend, or after one special summon, they probably have a decent card to just attack you.

18:06 that phrasing made me genuinly laugh out loud, so true