Really looking forward to this one. Looks amazing and right down my alley. Will be backing.
@richprice4822 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel. I think I will back this one. I already have more than enough Dungeon crawl games but another one to the collection can’t hurt!
@pedrowayne46752 жыл бұрын
Man, the build up on this is huge! Really looking forward to this!
@dazir_solo_board_gaming38402 жыл бұрын
Great overview! Backed based on your video. It will be a fantastic addition to the collection and awesome to showcase playthroughs. Thanks!
@fightingfortruth9806 Жыл бұрын
Just throwing my 2 cents on this video having spent a lot of time playing Dungeon Universalis. DUN actually excels as a coop/solo game. In fact, I'd honestly say that coop actually works better than 1vsmany. The real shortcoming of DUN is the lack of a good random dungeon generator. I think the main draw to Dungeoneers is that it is designed from the ground up with a good random dungeon experience, just like Warhammer Quest.
@TheDungeonDive Жыл бұрын
For me DUN is best with someone acting as a GM because of all the hidden information in the quests and the amount of book keeping needed with the enemies.
@TheDungeonDive Жыл бұрын
I’m really looking forward to using LOD more as a tool set for my one quests and adventures.
@Elric542 жыл бұрын
I was trying to place the awesome dungeon art and world map. It's all done in Inkarnate. Which is really cool, because if you also have Inkarnate, you can make your own tiles and world maps, and they will match the game!
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice!
@questwise40772 жыл бұрын
This looks really cool! I've been deep diving into d100 Dungeon lately, and the only thing I wish it did more is tactical type combat. Looking forward to the kickstarter. Game on!
@matthewbrockman7602 жыл бұрын
3 months on, how are you finding D100 Dungeon? I saw it the other week and am curious
@bengamingames50022 жыл бұрын
Love your honest reviews, thank you. I have backed it and can't wait to play it!
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. :)
@egorrotneck50222 жыл бұрын
I'm sold, glad it's not going miniatures heavy so it'll be more affordable
@cheesedanishable2 жыл бұрын
omg I can't wait. Important to note is that this game started as a PnP and has been available for the longest time already. It's had plenty of time to bake and is really a labor of love as much as it is trying to be successful on kickstarter. As stated, anyone who's a warhammer quest fan will LOVE this. We haven't seen anything quite like it in years.
@paulwastney51342 жыл бұрын
It looks intriguing but I would say, Dungeon Universalis is excellent solo. The ADP works well and I am enjoying it solo just fine.
@NeilY10002 жыл бұрын
will back this .... did Dungeon Universalis on the back of your review ... and not regretting it at all
@dicepsycho19892 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a little Forklore too. Looks great!
@allfour12 жыл бұрын
I've recently spent a lot of time watching a playthrough of DUN and had decided to pick that up in its next campaign but this looks to scratch that same itch and I'm definitely going to be keen to see what the campaign offers. Double sided tiles is great, but not if it's the same art. Perhaps use different art on the reverse - it would save on the number of tiles needed which reduces the materials needed and weight for fulfilment/shipping costs?
@DestroyerHivePro2 жыл бұрын
So excited!!! I love that this game will give me an excuse to 3D print a crazy amount of fantasy miniatures
@mcstabba2 жыл бұрын
Looks cool! Love the hexagonal map! I'd be playing solo though so it is maybe a bit too much work running four characters. I'd love to run a party of only dwarfs though, always wanted that! A band of grumpy dwarfs sent on a quest by their clan chieftain or king or whatever. Maybe 2 warriors, 1 warrior priest and 1 alchemist as my four dwarfs if I get into this. I'll be checking out the campaign and have to deicide then I guess. Great preview video!
@aarongelb97932 жыл бұрын
you'll be able to run 1-2 "real" characters, and then run a few mercs that are easier to run.
@kkantele2 жыл бұрын
Great overview Daniel! & yep, those standees look great!
@lergof02022 жыл бұрын
Very much looking forward to this one! I’ll be a backer for sure. I know he’s working hard on fixing all the spelling and grammar issues. I think the final product will be much better in that regard.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
I hope so!
@richprice4822 жыл бұрын
Taking another look at this Daniel I think the only thing which could give concern is managing 4 Heroes. I play a lot solo. Working with this number of heroes in such a detailed game is going to be too much. You said that it may be possible to run 2 with some adjustments. Given that dungeon crawl games have a large solo following I hope the designer has some thought to this ready for the KS. I still really like the game it looks like a solid job has been done. But I will need to think carefully if it will work for me.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Managing 4 will be a lot.
@Ulfengaard2 жыл бұрын
Agree with this. I don't see managing four heroes happening for me. There are other games that do that better for a solo player.
@chrisc63332 жыл бұрын
This has me really excited as a system and I will watch for it on KS. From what I saw it does look like it needs more than one pass by a good editor and a professional graphic designer to get in shape before it hits kickstarter. I also spotted some mind flayers (standees and named in the bestiary) and a beholder, two monsters Wizards of the Coast considers their IP and could lead to legal issues depending on how they are named/used.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
I’m really hoping it gets a good editor.
@heidevolk_le_gueux2 жыл бұрын
Michael is aware of copyrights issues and is working on these, beholders and mind flayers dont have these names in the updated rulebook :)
@TruckDrivinGamer2 жыл бұрын
Mind flayers and Beholder both show up in Final Fantasy IV, made in the early 1990's. They're not copyrighted by Square Enix, because they're not words that can be copyrighted. Their character designs can be, but not the words themselves because they're just English words that can be used in everyday language. So Wizards of the Coast can't copyright them either.
@heidevolk_le_gueux2 жыл бұрын
@@TruckDrivinGamer Hello, "mind flayer" and "beholder" are designated Product Identity, as defined in Section 1(e) of the Open Game License version 1.0a, and are subject to the conditions set forth in Section 7 of the OGL, and are not Open Content.
@silvertiger13242 жыл бұрын
Love the ultra rare standees with front and BACK art! SOLD!
@silvertiger13242 жыл бұрын
@@NeoRaven78 Rare as in most board games with standees only have front artwork. Legends of Andor is the only one that comes to mind off the top of my head. But yes Skinny minis are nice as a stand alone product.
@sethpeterson82612 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that name is going to change.
@pedrowayne46752 жыл бұрын
Love those standees !!
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Me, too!
@CinKaiDRocks2 жыл бұрын
I am really looking forward to this KS. Seems made for me. 🤟🙂 The trigger warning is silly imo.
@jonathana62982 жыл бұрын
KS campaign is currently live. I'm probably going to back this... the only question is should I drop out of my Kingdoms Forlorn all-in pledge? This is so much cheaper, no minis, and rogue-like adventure elements. I already own everything Kingdom Death. I love KDM, but I don't need 2 massive campaign games that take multiple shelves, binders, and boxes, with more miniatures than I would ever want. I've never owned Warhammer Quest and I passed on Dungeon Universalis. Dungeon Universalis looked like it was way more than I was looking for. This seems like a good balance. My biggest hesitation is that this is from a first time creator. I also really wish this was a true solo experience. edit: I'm reading through the campaign page a little closer. There is a Companions expansions which lets you use Mercenaries instead of playing with multiple characters. Great.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
To me, Kingdoms Forlorn looks like plastic mini bloat.
@jonathana62982 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive I agree. In the last 2 days, I have already decided to pass on it. League of Dungeoneers look a lot more attractive to me, and it's different than other games in my collection. I have also been looking for a game like D100 Dungeon. D100 Dungeon is good, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for. Really looking forward to this one.
@-M4cD4ddY-2 жыл бұрын
Much prefer this opening sequence :) looks like a great game too!
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Luckily for everyone I rotate them. :)
@daveyq2 жыл бұрын
Looks great, but I cant help thinking I'll be spending alot of time looking for tiles\standees, filling in the character sheets and looking up rules, I guess thats the price you pay for variety and depth!
@michaellundstedt77412 жыл бұрын
Hi David! You might be correct, but with a bit of preparation, its really not that bad. The quests are themed towards a certain category of monsters, so you can pick out those standees before starting the quest. You will be filling out the sheets a bit, but it's fairly quick work once you get the hang of it. The lastest version of the character sheet makes it quite simple too with more checkboxes (and they are themed towards a certain profession to make them more streamlined).
@krislam02 жыл бұрын
Somehow I missed this video when it was posted, sorry Daniel :D Catching up now the project has launched.. One question I have outside League of Dungeoneers: I keep staring at your dungeon dive card holder - do you have a design for that somewhere? It may be a good add on for Dungeon Degenerates
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
It’s a Hold-It card organizer. Got it on Amazon.
@tireharicot94442 жыл бұрын
The chart for the door is discouraging. Dungeon Universalis may have a better system with its special dice. With the app and the two campaigns, it's also very good for co-op, despite that spawning enemies, finding the standees and understanding their behaviors takes time.
@1AngelAlita2 жыл бұрын
It looks like a great game for someone who has lots of miniatures from other games. :)
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Totally! There should be more games like that.
@blainroman73172 жыл бұрын
I have a few questions : 1. How is the map used in the game? Would your party discover dungeons by travelling on the map? Could adventures occur solely on the terrain and not involve dungeons? e.g. a city quest or a forest quest? Do you think this game is similar to Journey to the Overland? Would you say Dungeoneers is better or not? Thanks for the video description. I might consider supporting this on KickStarter. Man, I got so many games.
@heidevolk_le_gueux2 жыл бұрын
The overworld map is used to travel (physically) between cities/dungeons/points of interest, so in a sense, adventures do happen outdoor (you have outdoor settings with tiles) and indoor
@MelvLee2 жыл бұрын
These look amazing! Will the characters level up like in WHQ? Or they level up by getting more gears? WHQ had the issue with levelling up as it gets quite easy after the first few levels. Also one thing I may have missed is the dungeon event! Are there any dungeon room events in the game like in good old WHQ?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
The rooms themselves have events tied to them. Leveling up is similar to WHQ.
@danno47292 жыл бұрын
Daniel, thanks for the video! I have 2 questions: Firstly, if someone plays the DM in LOD, can that person be the fifth player (I ask because we have 5 in our gaming group)? Secondly, I saw that DUN can be played fully co-op with an automated DM. Which of these two games are better in that setup (does one stand out as much better without using a DM, fully cooperative)? Thank you very much!
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Not really sure. My time with LOD was limited. IMO, DUN is best when played with a human controlling the AI / Darkplayer, and LOD seems to be focused more on pure co-op. As far as 5 players go, that's nearly impossible for me to say. Most of my gaming is done solo, and sometimes I play with a small 3-person group.
@danno47292 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive thanks Daniel!
@danno47292 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive one last question, please, Daniel: any opinions on ideal player count for each of these 2 games? Thank you!
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
No opinion really. My only real consideration is if it’s solo or not.
@denoxy2 жыл бұрын
Cool game! But my wallet (and my wife)) is not looking at me well... I hope that the game will appear in the Tabletop Simulator and it will be possible to try it :)
@aarongelb97932 жыл бұрын
this might become my favorite game ever? Any chance we can watch you play turn or two?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
When it I get it! :) this was a prototype. Had to send it back.
@aarongelb97932 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive too bad :-D Great overview, thank you!
@gregolder17132 жыл бұрын
There could be a copyright issue with Wizards of the Coast: they consider Mind Flayer a trademark critter of D&D and have sued other companies over using classic D&D specific critters like Beholders in the past
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
They’re changing them.
@plazma28912 жыл бұрын
i just found out about this i don't do Kickstarter no more but this looks cool
@sethpeterson82612 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Pretty torn on this, for everything that looks good to me (mini agnostic, those standees, miniature photography, tactical) there's a lot that looks bad (excel spreadsheet characters, much of the artwork & design, percentile based). I love the random dungeon generation and huge amount of tiles, but hate the clip-art tile quality and unthematic poker symbology on the cards (that might be enough by itself to make this a pass for me). I'll just have to keep an eye on it.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. You’re one of those anti playing card guys. :)
@sethpeterson82612 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive yeah, for sure, ha!
@michaellundstedt77412 жыл бұрын
For what it's worth, the playing card symbols have been removed since the prototype was manufactured. As for the artwork, the book as gone through quite an update as well which can be seen in the newsletters (that can be found in the forum at the BGG site). In the end though, it's down to a matter of taste of course :)
@sethpeterson82612 жыл бұрын
@@michaellundstedt7741 Well that's awesome to hear. The playing card symbols and art were my biggest hangups (Also the "League" name, but sounds like that has changed) so if the poker symbols are gone and the art is getting updated then I'm in . Just signed up to be notified and I'll go check out your newsletter now. Thanks! EDIT: Just got to newsletter 5 and see I had it backwards. I thought you were dropping the "League of" Dungeoneers name and it was just going to be Dungeoneers, but it's the other way around.
@jay_cadiramen2 жыл бұрын
This looks great but I'm worried it's another Dungeon Quest, which I backed but can never get into when it comes to playing. How do you think they'd compare?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
DungeonQuest is much simpler. More of a press your luck game, one that can be over on the very first turn if you have bad luck. This is more like Warhammer Quest or Shadows of Brimstone. Longer games with more going on.
@Mind_of_MATT Жыл бұрын
This looks as heavy or heavier than many RPGs.
@TheDungeonDive Жыл бұрын
It is.
@steffdia7080 Жыл бұрын
There is no where to buy it. It's just one time and done. Not for market.
@TheDungeonDive Жыл бұрын
There will probably be a 2nd printing.
@tireharicot94442 жыл бұрын
Having now WHQ and DUN, I will pass on this one. I'm glad more miniatures agnostic games are produced. Did you support Lasting Tales?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
I have not heard of Lasting Tales.
@ulas-yalcin2 жыл бұрын
What game would you recommend for solo/2 player co-op that fits the theme of this channel?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Almost everything I talk about is good good for solo. It’s almost all I play. 2 player, anything that’s co-op. I don’t really play 2-player only games.
@ulas-yalcin2 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive thanks, even though you don't play 2 player games, what would you say your favourite co-op game is?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Hard to pick a favorite. Right now, I’d go with Sleeping Gods.
@patriziopastore98952 жыл бұрын
Hard to skip this one... looks a RPG in a box and we can use all the mins that we want to play it
@Osse222 жыл бұрын
I have Shadows of Brimstone and I'm wondering what does Dungeoneers offer that i should consider picking it up? Thanks
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
More tactical combat.
@Osse222 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive With the addition of the hexcrawl + the combat does it make sense to have both? Or are they too similar? Thanks for the response
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
For me, yes.
@sralredne21592 жыл бұрын
What about if I am a Folklore the affliction Gamer, is this a must have or easy pass?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Must have.
@pedrowayne46752 жыл бұрын
What’s the anticipated cost of an all in?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Designer said he wants to keep the base game at around $80, standees are extra.
@heidevolk_le_gueux2 жыл бұрын
I doubt we could have any all-in accurate pricing right now, Michael still has to set up all the prices of all the add-ons, the only thing we could tell is the base pledge price which is "meant" to be around 65$+VAT
@snack_happy6567 ай бұрын
How does this compare to brimstone?
@TheDungeonDive7 ай бұрын
Both based highly on WHQ '95, but both have their own flavor. I have very detailed playlists for each, so there should be enough info on the channel!
@Rodinov_Claw2 жыл бұрын
How would you rate this against D100 Dungeon?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Completely different. Not comparable at all.
@timsherman77362 жыл бұрын
How is this compared to Gloomhaven?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Totally different kinds of games. Gloomhaven is more of a euro style puzzle game with a dungeon crawl theme. This is more like original Warhammer Quest and Advanced HeroQuest.
@timsherman77362 жыл бұрын
@@TheDungeonDive thanks for the reply. I am unfamiliar with either of the quest games as well as the euro style reference to Gloomhaven (although i have played Gloomhavenextensively). Could you please enlighten me?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Probably best to watch some videos reviewing those games. It would take me a long time to explain everything in text! Simply put, GH is more like a puzzle with a right solution, where as LoD is more about randomness with dice rolling.
@timsherman77362 жыл бұрын
Sold! We got the all in pledge!
@StormWildSpace2 жыл бұрын
A couple of those tiles look like he lifted the art directly from WHQ. I think i'll pass. I have Gloomhaven, Drunagor, Massive Darkness, Middara, Core Space, Warhammer Quest and Sword and Sorcery with S&S 2, Bardsung, acts 2 and 3 of Middara, Massive Darkness 2, Dungeons of Infinity, Arydia, Core Space: First Born, and Dungeon Universalis On the way.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Yep! We have a ton of options now. I think this one is doing enough to be interesting.
@SL1M732 жыл бұрын
This or dungeon universalis? And why?
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
If you prefer a GM led game, with pre-constructed dungeons, DUN. If you prefer a full co-op with random dungeons, LOD.
@arcubal2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. Not meaning to be a party pooper but I'm just so over the trope fantasy dungeoneering (I guess it IS in the title). I mean, the character types are cookie cutter, the landscape on the overland hex map looks super generic, the tiles are not overly inspiring in design or use (especially cuz you pretty much randomize them = no dramatic story beats). I'm sorry but this may appeal to someone new to the hobby, or very grognard-y who has a real passion for this kind of elementary fantasy experience (and to them I genuinely wish them lots of fun with this!) For me, at least, I'm only really interested in pushing the envelope in terms of theme, gameplay structure, or - at the very least - a more original approach to fantasy dungeon crawling. For example, Chronicles of Drunagor. Despite being very easy and still having a rather meh story so far, it still manages to generate some really fun exploration, interesting character ability mechanics and a nice visual flair. Machina Arcana is another one. This has a more engaging theme AND mechanics (despite not having many different enemies). Okko Chronicles? Skull Tales? LOTS of flaws but unique feudal Japanese horror and Pirate themes respectively. I'm not saying these games were perfect but there's a difference between having flaws and, right out of the gate, not being very original in feel, look or gameplay. Still...I wish them luck.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Luckily for you, you’re not forced to play it! ;)
@heidevolk_le_gueux2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the MAIN true interest in League of Dungeoneers is its interesting complexity and overall completeness, it goes deeper than all other boardgames of the genre. It does obviously not reinvents the genre in any way, you are absolutely right. What it does however is letting everyone that has already some bits from that genre (minis, furnitures, tiles etc..) play it and live a refreshing adventure that pushes every detail deeper in [good] complexity and "realism" in an already known and familiar environnement. It turns out to be, in my opinion at least, one of the most well-done dungeon crawler boardgame when it comes to TTRPG inclusions and actions diversity/choices.