A new analog goggle in 2024? Why?! // SKY04X PRO REVIEW

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A new analog goggle in 2024? Why?! // SKY04X PRO REVIEW

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00:00:00 - Analog is... dead? Why release this goggle in 2024?
00:01:19 - How does this differ from the Sky04X
00:03:24 - These are analog FPV goggles first and foremost
00:04:10 - Quad-Versity is gone. Nobody used it anyway.
00:04:51 - 1920x1080 screens. 16:9 aspect ratio
00:06:16 - Much larger 52 degree FOV
00:06:53 - 100 fps HDMI input. Why?
00:09:18 - Overview of plugs and controls
00:10:52 - Two faceplates to enhance fit
00:12:10 - It does NOT work with Walksnail 1080p @ 100 fps
00:14:59 - It DOES work with "Racing Mode" 540p @ 100 fps
00:15:29 - Image quality of the display is ... different.
00:16:15 - Dust in the optics (sad)
00:17:09 - Have I earned your support yet?
00:18:29 - Face fit is nearly perfect
00:19:41 - Throw out the provided antennas ASAP. They suck.
00:20:19 - Aspect Ratio can be changed 16:9, 4:3, and 4:3 Shrink
00:21:50 - Ultra-wide FOV makes it hard to see the whole screen
00:22:35 - Flight / Range Test
00:24:36 - Comparison: Skyzone O4X vs. Goggles X
00:26:28 - Comparison: Skyzone 04X vs. HDZero Goggle
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@bulufish8208 7 ай бұрын

Some folks don't know how expensive this hobby can be till u get involved. Me and my Amigos still fly analog.

@andyd5321 7 ай бұрын

True story, I remember telling myself DJI can’t be that much better than my fat sharks 😂 now I buy vistas like sweets 😂😂

@mattdena8070 7 ай бұрын

Took me about 1k just to get started. One thing they don’t understand is the drone ain’t even the expensive part, besides a digital air unit, the drone itself isn’t very costly to build.

@MCsCreations 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely. And there are still plenty of good analog products!

@citytouchstudios1144 7 ай бұрын

Extremely true but sims will save you lots of money and def don’t jump in blind I haven’t spent much I learned found great teachers and applied it : I was army 10 years no way I’m a keep breaking expensive shit . Yes fpv has the high rate of crashes . But the 4 P’s apply

@MR-od1bv 7 ай бұрын

Same here.

@NikG603FPV 7 ай бұрын

I still fly analog and love it.

@M-H433 7 ай бұрын

So do I,he makes stupid comments sometimes.

@jeremyboyce1537 6 ай бұрын

He's just being sarcastic ! Don't be too upset .😊

@XxSylasxX 6 ай бұрын

So does just about anyone who races lol

@dillacorn_linux 7 ай бұрын

I don't believe analog is going out the door because we all have lives and if you're into the hobby analog is just fine and fun and most importantly affordable. So if you went with an analog setup for your first fpv setup don't feel bad.

@nfnworldpeace1992 7 ай бұрын

analog will only die if digital is the cheaper option, and its far from that! my complete setup cost around 300 bucks and that wouldn't even cover just a digital goggle so no analog isnt dead or dying. rulling on old skool fat shark dom 2 and that probably wont change for a year or 2 due to budget reasons

@EricLaermans 7 ай бұрын

Analog got better, the analog cameras, the goggles.

@moehrefpv9277 7 ай бұрын

yeah i just can not afford digital

@overdosed51 7 ай бұрын

Digital is too expensive still. Until air units are 50-60$ I'll be sticking with analog 😂

@StasysFPV 7 ай бұрын

@@nfnworldpeace1992 - golden words.

@j3fron 7 ай бұрын

Analog main point is CHEAP and very efficient Analog will still popular

@user-yk1cw8im4h 7 ай бұрын

ironically these goggles ain’t cheap😂

@GK-dd5ci 7 ай бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4h But you buy goggles once every 3-5 years or more. It's one time investment but you buy VTXs much more often (break, lose, new drone)

@conorstewart2214 7 ай бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4h these top of the line analogue goggles may not be cheap but they can work with very cheap analogue cameras and VTXs.

@TL_RC 7 ай бұрын

Analog will remain very popular because it is MUCH cheaper per quad, and I can use ANY analog VTX with my analog goggles. Analog VTX's are also so tiny now (TBS Unify Nano), it is so easy to fit them into any build. There are too many digital FPV offerings, and you need to buy into DJI, or Walksnail, HD Zero etc... and you're stuck with them all the way. No one can agree on what digital setup is best, and having multiple digital googles is not a choice for most people... unless you run a successful KZfaq channel or are a professional FPV pilot.

@justinwright82 7 ай бұрын

$499 as of Jan 2024. I look at not wanting to convert 5+ aircraft to digital all at once, but the ability to convert over time is what sold me.

@Vaeloron 7 ай бұрын

I really think that KZfaqrs that thrive off of reviews lose touch with the reality of what this hobby actually costs when they are constantly given things or when they can afford to buy new gear as a business expense. Most of us can afford a new set of goggles maybe every couple of years and the difference in cost between a digital and analog drone, at least in my case, can feed me for a couple of weeks. Josh has added a lot to the hobby and many of his tutorials have helped me immensely over the years but as his videos have become more and more about digital FPV I find myself watching less and less. I spent the money and gave HDZero a good try but I have decided to go back to analog due to the added costs and complexity of digital.

@relo999 7 ай бұрын

Same here. Complexity isn't even the issue, it's just cost for me. My Skyzones 04X from 3-ish years ago were 400, a given drone of mine is already 100~150 euro doubling the price of a drone and either adding another 200 (or replacement at around 350 on the cheapest) to my goggles is quite frankly crazy. It nearly double the cost of the hobby if I'd go digital on the cheap and it's not like I use particularly budget equipment. Compared to my first setup going digital on the cheap it'd more than triple the cost. I feel increasingly there being a rift between full professional equipment and hobbyist gear while the professional equipment is sold as hobbyist gear.

@JoshuaBardwell 7 ай бұрын

Frankly, there is just not as much interesting content to make about analog. What is there to say? What has changed? Occasionally a new camera will come out. I reviewed the Foxeer Reaper 2.5W when it released, and the Solo Max. Those were interesting. The new Caddx Ratel Pro looks interesting. But for the most part, very little has changed in analog, and so it's not that interesting to me to make new content about it. The unfortunate reality is that the majority of people in FPV now are using digital. Digital bnf outsell analog by 2:1 or more. The numbers for my beginner build kit are similar. When I did a sub-$200 build video, I used analog (obviously). When I reviewed the Flywoo Baby Nano and the Dragonfly, I included an analog version in the comparison. I have full analog vTX install and setup instructions in my Beginner Build video. There is plenty of analog content on my channel. But the reality is that there are now four main video systems: analog, DJI, Walksnail, and HDZero, and even if you were to weight them by user-base, that means the days when analog got 100% of the air-time are gone.

@lemonsquareFPV 7 ай бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwellyou are right on analog marketability. It’s a well established and tested thing that doesn’t need much coverage. The only novel recent stuff I can think of are OpenVTX (where I am actually flashing new firmware on an analog VTX) and MSP control. BNFs and kits are not a good thing to judge the market though. For hobby use; analog systems out ship all digital systems 2:1 If you add the current military bullshit we are shipping an over 4:1 analog system ratio, depending on month.

@Vaeloron 7 ай бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell I apologize if the original remark came off more negative than it seemed. I agree with everything you said about digital. It is hard to find analog content among any of the FPV KZfaqrs and it is indeed due to a market shift so regardless of my opinion it is not in the control of the reviewers if there is nothing to review in he analog world. Trying to find analog BNF's is getting harder and harder unfortunately as well so I am finding myself drifting more towards fixed wing FPV at this point. I think if someone wanted to really break the market they would need to offer goggles with both digital and analog built in from the factory and do it at a price point that does not require a second mortgage. If a company could come out with a quality goggle under $300 that could do digital and analog then, aside from selling out instantly, it would change the hobby forever.

@conorstewart2214 7 ай бұрын

@@JoshuaBardwell what are you basing your digital BNF being 2:1 vs analogue on? If you are basing it on figures from higher end shops which tend to be more expensive then it isn’t really a fair comparison.

@mervinw 6 ай бұрын

Trying to pick up this hobby, was lurking around during the pandemic and now just coming back in, and i must say, your presentation is still the best. Thank you for these videos

@gonebdg 7 ай бұрын

I hope skyzone can collaborate and have a deals with WS and HDZ so they are able to produce proper fpv google for both digital system without leaving the analog.

@planet43 4 ай бұрын

Your comment, “ I’m old, and bitter about it” got me. You are a great teacher, will be sending you some $ as you have earned it. Thanks.

@Vaeloron 7 ай бұрын

I am actually slowly converting my HDZero fleet back to analog. I have had the HDO2's with the HDZero module for a couple of years now but I am just not happy with the extra weight, cost, and battery usage and the range still just can't seem to touch analog. I also hated dealing with the two separate power cords when I wanted to fly HDZero. I have even put my HDO2's in mothballs in favor of the Fatshark Scout. I think that there are still benefits to analog that may not be able to be overcome. I have some analog VTX's that are literally the size of my thumbnail that use very little power. Even at low transmit powers digital VTX's pull a lot of power for the video processing. The power draw of digital on small drones has a noticeable impact to flight times. My opinion might be different if the HDZero goggles were not so stupidly expensive.

@ahodbikes 5 ай бұрын

Bardwell you may be older than me but you are so full of life and passion that you carry the energy of someone who is way younger. I hope this fire keeps you buzzing for a long time!

@musicmaestro88 7 ай бұрын

I've never flown digital (well - I've never flown a digital system of my own, I've flown some friend's digital stuff). I'm still flying the same analog systems that I flew a jabillion years ago when I started FPVLab (when did I start that forum 2009? 2008?? haha). Still got Lawmate vTxs - haha. I know - I'm a dinosaur. Happy flying!! Sentry

@pongmaster123 7 ай бұрын

i've moved back to analog, its just more fun, faster, lighter. goggles on and everything works -> fly

@ChainsawFPV 7 ай бұрын

I am still using my SkyZone 03O's from 4 years ago. Bought them brand new as my first pair of FPV goggles, and have never dropped video or had any other issues. Even if analog is down to just whoop pilots, there are enough to justify new goggles like this.

@johncarold 7 ай бұрын

Hi Josh, Great video and review of the Skyzone SKY04X Pro. I am one of those guys who are Analog Forever. I have a pair of Skyzone 03O and I love them. Unfortunately I don't have a income for this Hobby anymore. So im happy with flying in FPV in analog. I just can't afford to pay a extra $150 to $250 for DJI or walksnail. Thanks for the video and information about these goggles.

@CriticoolHit 7 ай бұрын

idk if analog is going out the door. Indoor 1s flight is best with the analog options for weight savings. when they can get that total package weight + antenna + camera down to under 8 grams analog is still king in certain areas. Also at those ranges the analog footage is near interference free.

@Outdoorandfpv 7 ай бұрын

I'm buying these and hooking walk snail. Thanks for the review!

@JonR35 7 ай бұрын

Analog still works for me, I have dji goggles but don't love the hobby enough to put HD units on my quads

@406fpv9 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. I appreciate all you do for the hobby. $500 is insane for analog goggles nowadays. It's pretty sad when you can buy digital goggles for cheaper than analog. The better lower that price by about $250 to $300 in order to compete.

@platyfpv 7 ай бұрын

They're good high end analog goggles, that's why they are expensive. There's no price range choice for Digital so it's hard to compare, but there is definitely some mid end analog goggles at 250-300€

@7passu 7 ай бұрын

Im still rocking the best stuff in FPV. The FatSHark teleporter v3 and CC3D Atom flight controller on a ZMR250 frame. Hasn't gotten any better yet

@JakePickett-mz7lg 7 ай бұрын

The 2 things about digital I don't like is there is no compatibility and price point on vtx. When buying a vtx for analog I just have to buy a vtx and not have to worry about what brand I'm buying I can get any period and it will work and there are cheap compared to digital. Digital goggles may have gotten cheaper but vtx and cameras are still very expensive.

@dyno241 7 ай бұрын

Still fly analog! Absolutely no desire to switch to HD anytime soon

@j4ck32 7 ай бұрын

DJI goggles for over 600€ or Skyzone Cobra X for 230€? I don't think analog is dead...

@conorstewart2214 7 ай бұрын

Plus with the analogue goggles you aren’t locked in to buying expensive video systems for your drones and they will work with any analogue system you buy, including the likes of tiny whoops.

@revetastogne 2 ай бұрын

Well, it’s quite unreasonable to put digital vtx on a suicide drone that will explode a tank/moscovite, thus analog is used. Digital is used in bomber drones that drop the explosives and return back to reload.

@ValleyFPV 7 ай бұрын

I fly Sky04 goggles plugged into a HDZero 4SMA vrx ground station via a long HDMI cord. I love it. No antennas and batteries on my head.

@SladeAZ 7 ай бұрын

Analog is not out the door yet, but it may be more known as the "beginner budget" option. I fly pure analog, and all I can afford, but it is great to see more development towards analog users.

@dillacorn_linux 7 ай бұрын

Analog will continue to be relavant till HD systems get lighter and cheaper. Nothing compares in weight and price and even power efficiency compared to analog. HD Zero is the closest undoubtedly but in most cases analog is just fine for those looking to save nearly $200 on there first initial drone kit purchase.

@Jesperkraakman 7 ай бұрын

What I am missing with digital systems is they are all incompatible, so for example some local people fly dji and I cannot look at their feed when they are flying, which is a aspect I really liked in this hobby. I do have a hdzero vrx bolted on my fatshark now, but there are still two other incompatible systems...

@JakePickett-mz7lg 7 ай бұрын

Right with analog you just have to buy any vtx and camera with the guarantee it will work with any analog goggles you have. With digital It can be very very frustrating trying to buy a vtx with your exact brand of goggles, especially when your on a budget. Digital in the end will over come analog but not until they have the same compatibility.

@user-yk1cw8im4h 7 ай бұрын

feels like sometime in the future some sort of unification is gonna happen. an open source he system that is too good everyone just jumps on it

@conorstewart2214 7 ай бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4h that’s what needs to happen, either an open standard or a full open source product like ELRS. A good open source product would probably pretty handily beat the rest of the competition, much in the same way that ELRS is.

@derelictfpv 7 ай бұрын

@@user-yk1cw8im4hHdzero is supposed to be that open source system.

@fcorefpv 5 ай бұрын

I’m actually thinking on switching back to analog.

@simoneason1152 6 ай бұрын

Honestly these goggles seem like the perfect upgrade for me. I've flown exclusively analog for 3 years with Skyzone Cobra S (The S *not* the X), and have been wanting to get into walksnail down the line

@maceliusfpv370 2 ай бұрын

Cause you just pay for good optics and get to plug whatever receiver or input you want in to them, and backwards compatibility with all your old whoops etc to boot (one less goggle to lug around).

@michaelburke1310 7 ай бұрын

i'm still 100% analog and will be for the foreseeable future, it has unique advantages over any currently available digital system for my purposes, analog will always be king of fpv IMO

@conorstewart2214 7 ай бұрын

I think they will still be the most universal until an open standard or open source digital system comes about, similar to what ELRS has done.

@wasa7 7 ай бұрын

Yes I watched until the end 😂 I did work out the fail safe but there is sooooo much more to learn. Thanks for the continued content ❤

@BodhiGeraci 7 ай бұрын

Remember when we didn’t have wide screen? NO! Some of you don’t remember when we didn’t have wide screen, because you’re children I’m old. I’m bitter about it I’m dead 😂😂😂 funniest Joshua bardwell quote of all time imho Also, fuck. I’m starting to realise I’m old too… because yeah, I remember CRT tvs…90s kid

@alliroggorilla 7 ай бұрын

i got one and i like it because i can fly cheap analog drones and if i actually wanna upgrade to digital later i can add digital input and have full hd screens.

@d.e.v.z.e.r.o 7 ай бұрын

If you came from VR HMDs with 110°+ FOV, the 50/53° feels quite small, however it works out fine :)

@MaksimSSM 3 ай бұрын

At the front line in Southern Russia analog is used by fpv drones operators ❤ so they needed now more then ever.

@StarsAtNight1 7 ай бұрын

I have mostly foxeer t-rex cams on my uav's. Also the transmitters are really cheap, 15 bucks for 800mw and 30 for 1,6W.

@michaelburke1310 7 ай бұрын

haha dude i've been through a lot of cams and vtx's, the t-rex and tank solo are my favs

@conorstewart2214 7 ай бұрын

A half decent analogue camera and VTX is much cheaper than an air unit or other digital system.

@regular_user 7 ай бұрын

Digital is superior in terms of quality, yes. But if we will speak about range... Analog is superior (especially with the transmitter drone in the air). 30-40 kilometers without major input/output lag? Easy. But I would choose HDZero Goggle. First of all because of ideas that stands behind it.

@videsat 7 ай бұрын

Today is the 13th of January. I had a chance to relax all days long till March... Thank you Mr. GoBuyNewStuff! 😂 Now I'm up to work! 😂

@TheDarkstar826 7 ай бұрын

Im still using analog even tho I have hd. We need both for different scenario.

@steamvogue 6 ай бұрын

Analog is used in military FPV. you got the point

@RESISTAGE 6 ай бұрын

I strongly doubt that. it can be easily intercepted.

@steamvogue 6 ай бұрын

@@RESISTAGE what are you doubting ? All Ukrainian front now uses analog fpv for kamikaze, bombers , planes . Etc . Interception doesn’t matter as it’s useless , everyone can see how drone makes Fmeatball from orcs or exploding ruzzian tanks/vehicles / troops. Thousands of drones daily with analog FPV. Because of that there is lower bands video, non standard bands used . Not to hide but improve distance and expand video capacity .

@willpowerfpv3246 7 ай бұрын

Here's something that might be an interesting note for others that have farsightedness. I've been running the original 04 X for the last 3 years, and I'm a plus 1.75 in both eyes. It says that it's plus two on the far end of the focal adjustment range, except I'm at the very edge of what I can dial in as perfectly in focus. The issue is, as the foam surround begins to deteriorate, the Optics actually get closer to your eyeballs, and then your focal adjustment range becomes lessened. And for me, I do get the corners of the screen chopped off when I'm in perfect focus, because I need the surround to hold the goggles far enough away from my eyes, or else I can't stay in focus. I don't notice it much anymore, but I also can't put OSD elements in the top or bottom corners. These looks great, but I'm not interested in Walksnail, so I think I'm going to upgrade to HDZero goggles, which just happens to go all the way to a +6 focal adjustment. 🙂

@bottledg 7 ай бұрын

If Skyzone made a goggle with built in HDZero and analog it would be awesome.

@xXTheFalloutGuyXx 2 ай бұрын

I think using Analog in a military setting works better than digital. Analog transmissions being easier to encrypt and use in established military radio infrastructure. not to mention cost effectiveness. I'm certain the drone warfare in Eastern Europe is entirely analog. And i got a feeling a lot of pilots would be using these bad boys

@dieterweik6858 7 ай бұрын

I dunno Joshua... your last remarks about choosing the Skyzones over the HDZ goggles didn't sound all that compelling. Sounds like I'd still go with HDZ goggles - assuming DJI was out of the question. Otherwise, very thoughtful review. Thanks!

@CDRaff 7 ай бұрын

A digital VTX and camera are the most expensive things on a custom builds and they nearly double the price of a BnF. If you're a KZfaqr who is getting stuff handed to them that cost holds no bearing, but to actual real people though... Especially if you are doing risky stuff like long range or bando bashing. Until I can replace a digital VTX and camera for less than $80(the cost of a high end analog VTX and camera) than I'm not going to make the switch. Edit: Also want to remind Bardwell that HD-Zero is open and someone like Skyzone could very well make an external HD-Zero external VRX that is fully compatible with their goggles. Hell Carl could up and decide to revise the external VRX.

@Vaeloron 7 ай бұрын

It seems that this money is no object take is pervasive among KZfaqrs that are frequently given things to review. This isn't even a specific issue to FPV KZfaqrs. I think that for all of the helpful information that Josh provides he has fallen into the same trap where he has lost touch with the true cost of this hobby. Most of us can afford a new pair of goggles maybe every couple of years. It also seems like the difference between an analog and digital BNF is typically around $100 which is a hard pill to swallow.

@scu-dub 7 ай бұрын

I have analog gogs and not even top notch ones and I still absolutely love flying fpv I have been in the hobby going on 4 years and still fly the ev800dm....HOWEVER 😏 I really do want to fly in hd....but because I love flying whoops and micros I will always have a set of analog gogs ✌🏼

@jfriar 7 ай бұрын

Im staying analog. Ill buy your old stuff on ebay if you like! 😊

@ericstephany7305 7 ай бұрын

I have HdZero goggles and am having seroius problems with analog. I get rolling screen and it feels like there is lag, the display image is also horrible. Im not sure what the problem is but other people are having the same problem as me and there seems to be no solution. If you have any suggestions please let me know, I bought these for analog afterall. I use the rapidfire module. Thanks, I really apreciate your videos, def helped me a lot. 🙂

@jdnic1 7 ай бұрын

C'mon Josh, while I own DJI fpv system, It still can't fit in a tiny palm sized car XD. But the day it would be numbered to me is when they somehow shrunk digital fpv to the size of a normal whoop aio camera.

@IronOre33 2 ай бұрын

Analog is not going out the door anytime soon, the day that there are good $200 or less digital goggles that are easy to bind and there is more than 5 companies making them, (referring to the fact that there are only like 5 digital goggle companies) then analog will be out the door

@Kondoosan 7 ай бұрын

I have just received my GoggleX. I want to use my cheap tools for my analogue copters for now. I have soldered cables from my Eachine ROTG02 receiver, from the 4-pin JST connector I take GRD and video to a 3.5mm plug for the GoggleX. The power supply for the ROTG02 comes via OTG USB from my mobile phone. The DVR also runs there. So I have everything from the digital and analogue world.

@TaseenAli 7 ай бұрын

Been flying cobrax since the day it came out! And now walksnail with the cobra! This would be a great upgrade! Id say better investment then the new dji goggles.

@michaelburke1310 7 ай бұрын

been running my cobra x v2's with a rapidfire for a few years now, solid goggle, plenty of performance

@TaseenAli 7 ай бұрын

@@michaelburke1310 yea, i got the v1 rapidfire. Not bad for the price haha. I didn’t even update mine! I just had to re soldier the pint outs once.

@feeltherainforest 7 ай бұрын

great review as usual, I've just sold off all my O3, thinking to get back to analog whoop and the 04x pro seems like the perfect choice

@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 7 ай бұрын

I still fly analog, I like the idea of digital but it’s heavy and analog is still plenty fun and reliable and light and breaking analog is much more affordable to fix

@pongmaster123 7 ай бұрын

exactly

@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 7 ай бұрын

Also when you have a favorite vtx or multiple quads you’ve put on a certain channel you like it’s just a lot less headache than changing them all over for them to fly worse overall but see better. I would go digital for something specific but I can fly analog for anything

@pongmaster123 7 ай бұрын

@@SilverbackSasquatch19xx and its a lot faster and simpler. goggles on the head, power on, fly

@SilverbackSasquatch19xx 7 ай бұрын

@@pongmaster123 great point, I love me some analog!

@CarbonGlassMan 7 ай бұрын

If there was a way to get the low latency with digital hooking up to analog goggles, I'd love this. Everyone once in a while I fly my tinywhoops and use my analog goggles, but I mostly use analog goggles for the FPV rock crawler I built for inspecting crawl spaces. The Toothless 2 starlight camera does a lot better under a house than the digital systems. As much as I'd like nicer analog goggles than the Sky 03o goggles I have, I can't justify the expense. Regardless, I love watching the reviews.

@DerFette93 7 ай бұрын

Check out HD Zero Digital FPV with only 1-2 MS more latency than Analog and also realtivly good low light performance

@GK-dd5ci 7 ай бұрын

Goggles X should have analog input fixed soon

@x13102543 5 ай бұрын

next update

@GK-dd5ci 5 ай бұрын

@@x13102543 hopefully lol

@BryonGaskin 7 ай бұрын

One doesn't need Digital on every build. Think bashers and scratch build wings (the FPV market is bigger than just quads). You can go ultra low budget in analog for some builds for video ($10 VTX + $15 camera), there's not even a low budget for digital, just high, and OMG that that is crazy expensive.

@shiggzitiz6463 7 ай бұрын

The price tag though... ive never known an industry like this one where you can release a practically outdated bit of hardware and charge in line with the most recent tech... its frustrating for budget consumers! I struggle to justify the cost to get away from my Sky02s but i desperately want to, its just insane prices whatever route i take.

@Vaeloron 7 ай бұрын

I agree. I think that box goggles have developed a stigma due to the market being saturated with low quality offerings but a well made box goggle in the 100 to 200 dollar range can actually be quite good even compared to some of the high end OLED goggles.

@JoshuaBardwell 7 ай бұрын

Everybody is annoyed that analog FPV goggle price doesn't come down, because the goggles don't change very much for years at a time. But why would the price come down? The micro-display in the goggle is an extremely niche product, usually intended for camera viewfinders. They are bought in extremely small quantities. The OLED micro-display optics module in these goggles probably costs $200-$250 from the manufacturer to Skyzone. I would guess the BOM cost for these goggles to be around $350. So when they sell them for $500, that's actually a pretty reasonable profit margin. As long as cost to manufacture stays high, price to the consumer will stay high. Old tech only gets cheaper when 1) there is a huge surplus of last-gen stuff that has to be gotten rid of, and 2) when manufacturing of the old tech gets cheaper as a result of advancements in manufacturing. Neither of those things are happening with FPV goggles.

@Vaeloron 7 ай бұрын

I think part of the problem here is that we lost the middle of the market years ago. There used to be a lot of mid-tier goggles on the market. Now, with a few exceptions, we are finding either trash box goggles from Amazon. Or high end OLED goggles. Now we are at risk of losing the bottom of the market entirely which will keep a lot of fresh blood out of the hobby completely.

@Mateo_can 7 ай бұрын

I have problem with my emax tinyhawk 2 freestyle, he blinks 5 times red light and red light turn on and he does’t conect to betaflight

@Hotwire_RCTrix Ай бұрын

FYI here in the country of the kangaroo copters, our exchange rate is a whopping 0.67 USD. So $600/.67 =$895 before the Walksnail reciever. 😮 That hurts!

@CDRaff 7 ай бұрын

16:13 Walksnail likely calibrated the image produced by their screens to their camera, whereas Skyzone left the image alone because the user will likely be using them with multiple different systems.

@conorstewart2214 7 ай бұрын

Exactly, the sky zone goggles are just set up for generic HDMI input.

@folvo_0076 3 ай бұрын

I'm starting with this hobby, so my first choice is obviously analog. I think this hobby is still good with analog system.

@amitshalev7340 9 күн бұрын

Is the a way for me to add pin risers and a 3d print for the module. And still use quadvesity?

@WinstonSmith1984 7 ай бұрын

Is it really true that one shouldn't use linear antennas with those goggles because it has a mix mode? One can use linear on the aircraft and on the goggles put the antennas at right angles to one another. Surely the mix mode will filter out the glitches nicely.

@Dec1duousTree 6 ай бұрын

Innovation has been fast over the years, and now the newest gear makes 8 year old stuff feel obsolete. But the culture of fpv is also changing. It was once this thing no one had heard of, and very few did or mastered. But the whole hobby is slowly maturing now, with more pilots and more accessibilty. I understand why some pilots such as botgrinder claim it's all different now, and it is, if all you ever wanted to be was a rebellious punk flying bandos 4 life. That part is changing, and what you can do with fpv is changing. But the root of it is NOT CHANGING. Some people just want a nice, functional, inexpensive quad to fly around for fun. And that desire will last forever. Same reason why we don't need much more innovation to RC cars. They are just fun to drive. Analog isn't going away. It's not dead. It won't die. It's a freaking hobby, and a tool, and it works. These days analog works very well. I don't understand the pressure to upgrade and spend more money or you're not cool and can't fly like the cool guys. Exclusion.

@JinKee 4 ай бұрын

The one thing i like about my skyzone 04x pro goggles is that they boot up instantly when i want to freestyle, while my HD Zero goggles take a few seconds to boot up.

@fpfree8821 7 ай бұрын

Latency is the catch for me. Not saying higher latency isn’t flyable or that I’ve got crazy mad skills but that feeling of telepathy that you get from low latency is the core of my addiction. Like the change from cc3d* to kiss 6 or 7 yrs ago. * is that what it was even called? Been sooo long! Was cc3d clean flight or were they separate things?

@platyfpv 7 ай бұрын

This. 100% Agree, Hdzero probably matches that feeling but the downsides of HD are just too much for me right now, price, vtx size, how in 1 year everything goes obsolete, man I love analog

@wudz_fpv 7 ай бұрын

HD is still a gimmick.

@MADEWITHROBOTS 7 ай бұрын

I need to know more about that t-shirt, please

@Magneticitist 7 ай бұрын

It looks like they actually put decent lenses in them this time, which makes it so it's not mostly worthless.

@baggszilla 7 ай бұрын

Great job JB and SkyZone! Really nice analog goggles!

@NoShirt-Nick 6 ай бұрын

“Facts don’t care about your feelings” (Ben Shapiro) That is one of my favorite saying and a very true statement!

@JoshuaBardwell 6 ай бұрын

Yes but I said it ironically. It's true that feelings don't change facts. But people can care about the effect they have on each other's feelings. I think the saying is often used to mean, as long as the facts I say are true, I don't have to care about your feelings. That's a really mean spirited way to live. I'd rather people be more compassionate.

@pwncity 7 ай бұрын

I still use skyzones 02x daily. They're great and analog is great on the wallet. Also pretty much the only option for 65/75mm with any usable battery life. Analog is here to stay broski

@FlipsWart 7 ай бұрын

Analog is on its way out if you ignore half of the hobby, digital systems offer benefits but just like analog it wont work for everyone in every use case, so saying its dead is misleading.

@GregQuillen 7 ай бұрын

So wait walksnail google x have issues? Thought about grtting. Im usong hdzero with walksnail vrx. A lil frotn heavy so they lean forward. Really needs a top strap lol

@siempre2ruedas 3 ай бұрын

Ngo los skyzone 020 y son una maravilla para volar para sim para reproducir para grabar no he tenido ningún problema desde hace casi 1 año ya ahora voy por las v2 y un caddx 👍👍✌️

@JL-lk2on 6 ай бұрын

Interesting that you and the other two reviewers I’ve seen go over these state -2 ~ +6 diopter adjustment. However Skyzones website states -6 ~ +2. As a -5.5 this is a big difference! Hopefully Skyzone is correct as I’ve got a pair otw 👍 I was still rocking the EV800D’s and want to go all the way Analog with a side of Walksnail. These seem to be the best game in town for my needs.

@JoshuaBardwell 6 ай бұрын

It's -6. I misspoke.

@bigdorkification 7 ай бұрын

Im still using analogue. Ill switch to digital when its matured a little more.

@eastcoast8435 7 ай бұрын

I would have loved it if you'd also gone over the HDZero receiver modes like you did the walksnail. I get the results would likely be much the same, but you never know.

@January_Cold 7 ай бұрын

My question exactly. Unless this is a trick question and you endorse it in the review. I will watch it later when I'm free.

@TechnicallyTom 7 ай бұрын

One thing that you don’t mention as an advantage but clearly demonstrate is that paired with the Goggles X, you can have wired audience mode that doesn’t have reduced bit rate like some systems and has the advantage of retransmitted packets. This would give an experience more like what it’s like to actually fly than the real audience mode.

@MasterApeFPV 7 ай бұрын

I was wondering what and when Skyzone would bring out a new goggle.. I fly analog but have some WS drones ready to fly 😂 surprised they would bring out THIS! I have Sky04X that I got on presale for super cheap.. love them to bits.. definitely not going to get these. And definitely will be flying my Sky04X for another year 😂 600$ is crazy honestly.

@kornbob2665 7 ай бұрын

May I know how much it was during pre-sale?

@MasterApeFPV 7 ай бұрын

@@kornbob2665 I can not remember the exact sum I paid, but roughly €270. I had the fortune that I had also found a coupon code that was applicable at the time. That included shipping and tax.

@KOrnhOliO1 7 ай бұрын

NUTS!!!!

@relo999 7 ай бұрын

@@kornbob2665 Looking at what I bought them for (not sure if it was presale or not, I think it was) 440 euro.

@martr 7 ай бұрын

@JoshuaBardwell Skyzone have admitted that the spec on the focus is wrong. I personally suspect that this is cynical marketing because they made the same mistake on the 04X and did nothing to correct it. The actual spec for these goggles is -6 to +2 (diopter). You failed to mention the disadvantage these have over goggles which have -6 to +6 diopter (like HDZero) Why was that ? Rather you said that the "-2 to +6" range is "pretty standard for most FPV goggles" I dont think it is. It is not even standard for Skyzone goggles, let alone goggles with better focus capability.

@nickvledder 4 ай бұрын

Analog is getting better and better. I favour analog: low latency and better and better image-quality. I have flown digital too. Digital is good, but expensive and the laaaaaatency-glitches are awful.

@LarcoFPV 7 ай бұрын

If analog (and hdzero) dies I have to quit. Not that I would't like DJI. More due to my electrosensitivity. I started out with DJI and felt a strong dizziness even after a few packs for the rest of the day. So I did some research and got to analog because these goggles do NOT transmit anything. After switching all symtoms did not recur ever. So, for some people it is a necessity. For others it's more fun. Personally I enjoy the good old vibe of analog you can't find anywhere else nowadays. That's my sort of unique take on this topic. Appreciate any further development of analog systems for obvious reasons. Thx

@derboehsevincent3791 5 ай бұрын

When you don't have to buy the stuff - the newest toys are always the best. The majority of people can't afford to put in 170€ per quad just to get video. Esp. if you have multiple ones.

@peternguyen3732 7 ай бұрын

I miss FPV and hearing Josh's voice gives me such nostalgic memories of when I started this hobby lol😂

@grantc8353 3 ай бұрын

Purchased for whoop fun

@zappex92 7 ай бұрын

Analog best!!!

@Fatpumpumlovah2 6 ай бұрын

They said that about 2-stroke engines as well, still going strong... not everyone has a youtube channel making them money to buy DJI bs.

@ItsMeKevinFPV 20 күн бұрын

Can’t get these of my mind, i want these for tinywoops.

@ChrisQuadFPV 7 ай бұрын

Analog 4 Life 🧬

@KillRoy0351 2 ай бұрын

I’m Joshua Bardwell, and you’re ganna buy something today”

@harryfriend4362 4 күн бұрын

Not going to dive too deep into this but for hd to fully take over dji need to allow more goggles or modules to be used. The camera and even vtx are not the expensive part. It's just the goggles. And i think these are still almost 300£ if not more in the uk, dji is 600, and i can understand if you want quality footage you should use an action camera, but that's a thing in itself. Hd zero seems to be the cheapest but worst video quality (maybe a dvr split system could fix that but i think it's the camera) Walksnail is better quality but again limited currently to few goggles, seen new ones coming out at 199 but then a walk snail system is 150£ i think. The camera quality doesn't justify the price when dji seems to have s much better camera quality at a lower price for the camera unit. But dji goggles are 500/600£ 🤷 Im probably one of about 8 people but i think analogue split systems were possibly overlooked. Only got into fpv a few years ago, when hd zero released v2 or something so maybe my history is wrong Fair enough if you read this. Sorry if any of this was covered in the video

@alberto2974 7 ай бұрын

absolutely right. Analog is the king in tinywhoops world

@DavidReynolds-kr6yh 7 ай бұрын

Another thorough analysis by the master Bardwell, going through all pros and cons of another brilliant product by skyzone. Love all the details that you go through Joshua, so comprehensive and informative. If I was to get a new analog goggles I’m thinking that these would be the ones to have, they look pretty damn impressive to me.