Us arsenal fans are extremely rash with our judgment, lose one game, arteta out, win one game, the quadruple is basically ours. If we win against bayern on wednesday we will be singing praises of everyone on our team.

We as a fanbase are far too bipolar, when City had that October-November stump you wouldnt have seen a single city fan calling for Pep's head, a single loss in an almost perfect 2024 and everybodys calling us Bottlers. Hate singling out players but Saka can barely take a step before a fullback is coming to kick him down whilst Zinchenko gives wingers as fast as Salah Sane and Diaby all the space they wanted. Ive gone through too many hardships as an arsenal fan to give up at a time like this, we'll see how we respsond against bayern, praying we at least make the semis

One difference between last year and this year re: Zinchenko is simply that we don't have Granit Xhaka to cover. Xhaka has a really good reading of the game where he can very easily understand when to push forward and crash the box, and where to step back and cover, allowing Zinny to move forward. This year, the balance has shifted, where you'll see Rice/the left 8 pushing really high up and Gabriel shifting left to cover the space as Zinchenko moves centrally and up the pitch. But this creates an imbalance particularly on fast breaks where we don't always have coverage. We've seen Martinelli drop back a lot consistently this season to help out, but then this means he's not always available as an outlet when we have the opportunity.

Great pod guys, I'm an Arsenal fan, but man I am tired of how bipolar everyone is especially when things are negative-maybe I'm not as plugged into the Arsenal scene but to me, the only club to ever go Invincible is now expected to have a Perfect 38, if not it's all banter era, baby bottles and "you're not good enough 'yet'". Just let me enjoy these lads playing beautiful football

It feels like there is an issue with this Arsenal team in terms of managing themselves. Managing the highs and lows. I'm not going to lie, I'm pretty concerned about our away leg at Bayern. Its not as much the fact that we might lose, its the nature of the possible loss that concerns me. Last year against Brighton, we absolutely surrendered. If Bayern tack on the pressure early, and they score a goal in those early stages, I'm going to be very concerned. It seems like when we are on a high, we cannot be touched. We could beat any team in the world. When we are on our lows however, we cannot seem to stop that avalanche of bad results. That to me has to be something that speaks to both management, as well as the mentality of the players. Its too early to say that this was a repeat of last year, but this week and the next 2/3 fixtures are critical to see if we have made any kind of progress. Again I dont mind that we lose to Bayern, but we should be competitive, we have that quality. And we need to get a win against Wolves over the weekend. My goal when we started the season was getting over 85 points, and quarter finals. I'm going to amend that a little bit now to say that the goal should be to still get over 85 points, and we need to be competitive against Bayern, win or lose. If we lose, it cannot be by more than 1 goal. And this Wolves game now has become pivotal.

The off-the-ball stuff arsenal have excelled, outplayed everyone. There is a reason for that. It comes at the price of having sufficient breaks between games. Arsenal clicked into gear since the new year, think why? Out of both cups only 1 game a week till porto. Which again was a tie that showed the levels dropping. If arteta wants to become a successful manager he again needs to tweak the system and give up control.These high intensity off the ball work rate is not sustainable. Also I feel arteta's lack of use of his players is the next danger, the moment 2-3 key players pick injury together. The drop off in level will be huge. Saka/Both CB/Rice being irreplacable currently imo.

I Just watched 442 which shows the tactical change in the second half_ they dropped deeper and played Martinez as a centre back which gave them an extra man in build up. Then they went long to Zaniollo who held the ball well then switched to the left where Zinchenko left spaces for Bailey to run in...

One thing is for sure, we need to be absolutely ruthless this summer. We should not have any player in the squad who cannot come on and improve the team. Nketiah, Nelson, Zinchenko, Viera, Partey all need to be sold and replaced with better options. ESR and Jesus maybe if a good offer comes.

Bhavs makes the most obvious points and acts like he has said something smart.

It's the only problem we had the whole season. Breaking down middle blocks. Fulham away, Villa Away, Porto Away, Bayern at home and now Villa at home. Nothing new, it's our most prominent weakness and we have to adress it for next season and we'll have a great chance at winning everything.

George's analysis upto 22mins was bang on. I feel the chemistry of the line up lead to the drone football which saw us not meet the game Infront, as George says. The fact that we chose to pass up or not see shooting opportunities in the first was criminal. Another observation, Trossard repeatedly seems to fail in releasing passes to more advanced players with high-lines at our mercy

Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you. It's still really early and much too tight to call anything yet. Did we really believe there would be a drama free end to the season? I'm sure there's more to come.

Some fans just want to wear the shirt when we are winning. You can’t just wear it when we win, you have to wear it when we lose. We’re still in the race, it’s gonna be hard, but it’s less hard then last year

Key to how we played this year was control. Apart from the huge scorelines, those with lower gaps were still from control or as what Arteta prefers to call it, dominance. But Zinchenko overplayed his importance to the team by being too anxious to create something. Each time he got the ball he was looking to go for the killer pass and several were late resulting in offsides or loose both allowing Villa to keep the ball and grow in confidence. Didn’t help that at 0-0 he elected to play ‘gentleman’ and kick the ball out of play. Even Saka was exasperated. And when we conceded I think the team’s mentality was collectively pointed at Zinchenko having wasted too many moments and mentally drained to chase the ball for the 2nd. It was practically all Zinchenko last night as much as your ‘objective’ pundits would hate to admit it.

Totally agree with George. Arteta's Achilles' heel has always been his failure to rotate when appropriate. Now it seems like most of our key guys are banged up and or overextended going into the stretch run. That said, while it may not be likely, it's certainly not unthinkable that City potentially drop points in one of their remaining away matches. Now, it's time for Arsenal to show if they have really matured mentally. A win against Bayern would be a huge psychological boost. Meanwhile, it's not hard to imagine where a loss could easily lead to another late season collapse.

The main reason the fans are upset is because Arsenal have failed to get over the line in almost 20 years now. The facts of the matter are Arsenal have lost their credibility in terms of them having that Champions Pedigree a long time ago. This team has to urn that back from its fans , because our fans have been disappointed for so many years.

Arteta didnt get the line up wrong. Look at the chances in the first half. We should have been up 3-0. Later, Odegaard was taken off because of injury, and White was being eaten up by Zaniolo.

The difference between us and City is basically how they have managed their season. They have a clear strategy that was to not lose to us and Liverpool, and pick games that they have to win. We have faltered because we’ve lost matches which we should not lose like Fulham, West Ham etc.

George....The point about zinny and Jesus not showing their experience... Zinny I agree but Jesus is constantly defending, or going on the wing and changing his striker style depending on what we need. Not both in the same category imo

Switch up the sides of play and go long, is exactly what we need against the mid block teams. Agree with you, George.

24:31 It’s Arteta adding pressure without meaning too, they are all a bit tooooo drilled

The brilliant smith Rowe absolutely shit the bed when he came on, he, nketiah, Nelson, Partey, zinchenko need to go, along with Tavares tierney patino and lokonga, city do not carry players like we do

It feels like League title is gone because of City and especially PEP. Pep set huge standarts to win a league. Small Margins. You drop points in 5-6 games and potencially you lose a title. Only 3 managers won a title challenging Pep - Mourinho with Centurion season with Real, Conte in first Pep season in EPL and Klopp with fantastic season and City getting "only" 81 pts 😅

I agree that we need someone other than a star striker, likely Isak and a Florian Wirts to change the attack.

It feels catastrophic, not necessarily because we lost. But because we are 2 points behind City, with 6 games to go. And ain't no one expecting City to drop points. Let's get this straight. Losing to Villa at the weekend didn't cost us the title. It is incredible that we even had it in our own hands, after that run towards the end of 2023. We have to take the plaudits. Cause we are only in the question because of the incredible form since the New Year. If this is the only loss in the PL until the seasons end. We can quite rightly say that we didn't bottle anything. We dragged ourselves back into contention. And one loss was enough for City to beat us to the line. And we will have lost the title in the back end of 23. But we are still in amazing form in 2024 and we go again. On the flip side. If the wheels come off now. We will get top 3 but go into next season with valid arguments that we bottled it two years in a row. And that would be a shame because we have genuinely improved this season. I can't see us making up 2 points in the last 6 games. Unfortunately. We need to finish the season well and anything is possible. But if we fall short, a couple points behind City. We haven't bottled anything. We go into 24/25 as one of the best teams in Europe. Perhaps even as holders of the league or maybe even the CL. The worst thing that we can do from here is derail. For psychological reasons as much as keeping the title alive

Tel definitely starting tuchel isn’t dumb hence why tel started lw on the weekend

Great analysis lads !

The plan stays the same, we have to go perfect for the rest of the season. The league is no longer in our hands but at this point, there’s nothing else we can do but continue fighting. No point in derailing the season when there’s a chance that city gets 1 draw and we beat them on goal difference. COYG❤️🤍 (The team also played very well yesterday for me, but the screaming issue was that we don’t have a star finisher. If we had isak up front instead of Havertz, he would have had a hattrick)

Man this episode is so depressing 😂 so so emotional

You can’t critique Arteta for looking at Names when you’re doing the exact same thing with White. He was losing duels to a bum like Zaniolo all 2nd half, he had to come off.

I can't excuse our second half performance yesterday. But it was always going to be a tall order for us to push city to the very end of the season. We all know that city finish the season strongly and if we compare our final run-in games compared to city, its much harder on our front than theirs. Having said that, we should have been winning going into half time yesterday. Our players missed very good chances and it just goes to show the pressure can still get to us. Yes, we have good squad depth, but it's not brilliant. We lack top cover for Saka, Odegaard and Saliba, as well as a top, top forward. Overall, this season has been progressive (pushing the league in a 3 horse race, until now. And getting to at least the quarter finals of the champions league), but mainly on a defensive front we have improved quite a bit. We just need a strong summer of incoming and outgoings. Then, next season Arteta needs to find a better balance of squad rotation. As even though he has improved on that front this season, he still hasnt been excellent at it. We cannot play Saliba, Gabriel, Odegaard, Saka, Rice pretty much every game. They have tired because they are playing every 3-4 days and have played pretty much all other games in the league, champions league and some Cup games. We need that quality depth to be able to come in and do what needs to be done at a top level. I do think we have missed what Timber could have brought to the team this season and the same for what a fully fit Partey can bring as well, but we do lack a killer striker, who given half a chance will bury it. Either way, there is still games to be played and this team is still capable of putting a strong end to the season, even if it ends like last season (finishing 2nd).

The J5 and TP conversation is funny with regards to rice. The only reason they’re needed is because they have to babysit rice with regards to passing and build up play because if his passing was there, what is the actual need of either of them.

Zinchenko has been that bad like losing possession jogging back low quality misplaced passes & just lack of concentration, slowing down play he has been so bad this season I honestly thought maybe he has been taking bribes 😂 cuz some decisions you think what are you even thinking lmao

Is it me or does it seem that a lot of teams rotate, rest players and give up even before they set foot on the pitch against city. They have some kind of aura that makes it even easier for them. Granted they have worked hard for a decade to creat it so hats off but its annoying watching teams just try and get through a game without spilling every drop of blood to try and get a result like they do against arsenal and Liverpool. Man city must get given at least 10 games a season at this point just by the opposition surrendering before a ball is kicked. annoying.

That’s why. He was getting tired and frustrated. Didn’t want to risk a red

Chocolate Sandwich

I'm agree with george there, peoples blaming zinchenko or whatever, but in the end, mikel just have to take the blame for poor game management and time management for the squad. Soon, big gabi, ødegaard, and saliba gonna dropped off bcs they almost playing 90 minutes at all competition (in fact, big gabi recently showed that bozo gene as well)

If Mikel starts Zinny against Bayern, we are definitely done for the season.

My question is why do you call the manager by his first name but not the players in the arsenal team?

If he wants to start zinny play him as number 8

Ahh Alex has forgotten of Timber existence… 13:07 only joking, just bad example.. I’d say Saka&Martinelli

If he rotate most of the team and lost i would understand,abit less disappointed than running our starting 11 for most of the game and losing,they look drained...and now going the bayern home ...offfff

Rice,partey,oder, martinelli or trossard,and havertz or jesus,im thinking jesus on champions league form

tactical masterclass from arteta on sunday bayern will batter arsenal tonight

Whys he doing Madness in the first place bro? RAYA PLAY IT LONG YOU THINK TO YOURSELF AND HE'LL PAST IT TO The left hand side... Hello 👋

Kiwior has been cooked every game he played, no other player in Arsenal plays between the lines except Zinchenko. He even created some of the best chances but the forwards didn't convert. First goal was Martinelli's mistake because he didn't cover Bailey. Zinchenko made only one mistake ln the game but you guys are putting all the blame on him.

This Bayern match could be the impetus for something special. Man City will drop points!

White was on a yellow card

You talk about resting players and then complain about Odegaard coming off, he got kicked in the chest

We have a GK that can’t make saves, a LB that cant defend, a ST who can’t score. Make it make sense.

At best we lose on penalties !

Look at Man United. The worst system and the worst football play. But they are still no. 6 or 7 on the table because they have multiple players who can have individual brilliant moments. Arsenal needs such players - are the current ones capable? - may be

They will never drop points

Love the excuses. keep it up really setting the standards

Stop the agenda against Martinelli you guys talk about Martinelli 2 times in a week.

It feels like someone has died because we lost one game. Drama queen 🙄

Do you think it's fair to call Arteta Out after 4 years and 1 solidarity F.A cup to his name guys? Wait and we see I guess?

The bottling has started. At the exact same point of last season as well & the season before(when we bottled top 4) if my memory is correct. Previous 2 seasons we blamed it all on injuries. Well this season, our injured players have actually come back fully fit. So what's the excuse now? When are we going to accept that this group of players crumble under pressure. Unless we bring in atleast 2 world class players (in the mould of a salah n debryune) who can change a game in an instant on their own, we ain't winning the pl or ucl...