They really have come a long ways since they showed up here in The States. I love what they're these days, particularly with the N performance models

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@Cabbage Head Hi. I think They have adopted every single good forte from many manufacturers that others hadn't tried to make it price perfomance. I like their marketing strategies. In Ev & electro controlled mobility era Hyundai has absolutely much advantages from korean's electronic technology & industries.

Hyundai can thank the Europeans it hired in key exec positions

It's ok because Koreans should be laughing at Amercian music. Korea is the future.

@@allentoyokawa9068 STOP TROLLING!!

@@allentoyokawa9068 Japan is sinking

@@allentoyokawa9068 lol Albert Bierman and German engineering excellence says you're wrong

@@SuperTonydd Talk about not aging well. AB is gone. Research on new ICE power is done. My Veloster N had better last...

@@gwcrispi He's still a Technical advisor, and we are decades away from an all EV car world.

Biermann & Schryer are leaving Hyundai

@@kwhite145 theyre not, they will just give the position to someone else but they will stay in hyundai as advisors.

Thank you, too kind :)

Elantra N line or N?

N and N Line are not the same

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The Kona is many things, gorgeous it’s not. LOL!

@@vr6gls hater.

@@MWCRUSADER0508 hater

Thank you Ian 🙏🏻

Sometimes I wonder if I jumped the gun getting my 22 VN, the Kona N looks like a hoot. The 8spd DCT is VERY good 👍

not sure about the GR yaris as far as right now. The tuners are already having issues with power and break balancing as well as blowing through diffs and trans. I mean out of the box its pretty awesome but given people changing the settings or trying to change ride angle/torque angle theyre still playing by ear with TRD with how to update the GR yaris to be able to be tuned and ran/adjusted easily for different tracks/driving styles. IDK how well this translates to how long the car will last if driven hard by its owners. If toyota cant narrow these QC aspects down as it is in japan with the local scene you could imagine the aspects to how long this car/platform will last. VS the gr86 per example which is essentially a 2nd gen frs/ft86. Considering that in their lineage the subaru and lancer evo history has been rich with tails of mishaps and illfated builds/end users.

I would keep it in warranty but I dont trust their engines.

Same to you 👊🏻🙏🏻

I like the idea of being able to get a brz or gr86 drive it stock then get a turbo with any necessary internals down the road. Theres a cost efficacy vs the 40k range 400z and 2022 and onward type r. The 2022 definitely got the "noteworthy" upgrades that the car imo NEEDED to be truly appreciated in stock form. Whats nuts to me is that the premium package brz and 86 come with PS4 tires just like the premium package elantra n. Kind of blows my mind that these "optioned" cars come with those tires as "standard" it really sets a high benchmark for grip to the owner the second they get the car off the lot and hit their first on ramp/off ramp and do a fwy run etc or really get into it on a good run or etc. Before they consider running a different tire once it comes time to replace them. The rims are also bigger/wider with these options even if a lesser tire were to be utilized vs the stock/base rims/tires. For me that difference in size pushes me towards the premium/optioned brz/86. Ironically i looked up the 86 the white they offer is pearl effect coated...so it costs MORE than the metallics...kind of ironic as i was kind of looking forward to a "base" white that would cost less than metallics. Most cars these days have "run of the mill" paint finish even if it is name brand. I couldnt expect a black coat to "last" since mine wont be garaged. Ill most likely be wrapping and re-painting mine Which was already the point of emphasis with a "base" white paint being an option XD

I heard that too and I said it, I definitely said N but it sure doesn’t sound like it (I’ll admit 🤷🏻‍♂️)

@@chronodriver Amazing work Paul!

There is no car in it's price range that competes with it performance wise unless Honda makes their new Type R a track car and not a time attack car.

@@boygonewhoopdataZZ Add in the really low gas mileage this car gets and you realize its not a huge bargain. 20mpg average is the same as a 480hp mustang GT weighing and 3800lbs ,that is what car and driver got with both cars . Some people are averaging 27-30mpg in the gti . Thats a huge difference with gas being $4.00 a gallon.

@@Spiritcr1jsher First of all these are rated 22 mpg city and 27 mpg Hwy for the DCT, the Mustang GT is 15 mpg city and 27 mpg Hwy, the GTI is 24 mpg city and 32 mpg Hwy. One random test tells you virtually nothing, there are way to many variables. I own a GTI with a DCT and almost never see even 20 mpg, but I also drive it hard in manual mode all the time, I like to go fast and wind out the motor. To get anywhere near those numbers you have to drive it like your grandma where the engine never goes over 2-3K. I also added a throttle booster because it was so dead otherwise, it can go fairly well, but only if you stomp on the gas, part throttle is tuned for gas mileage. That throttle booster was one of the best modifications for improving the fun factor but definitely hurt fuel economy. My guess is the N models come that way from the factory, just listen to that exhaust, what other manufacturer does that at this price point? These N cars are all about having fun, fuel mileage be dammed! I love it! If you are so worried about fuel mileage they have an EV or hybrid with your name on it. Let's say you drive 10,000 miles a year, if you are in a car that gets 30 mpg you will need 333 gallons of fuel, and at $3.50 a gallon you will spend $1,165 a year on gas, for a car that gets 20 mpg you will need 500 gallons which will cost you $1,750 a year. So for $585 a year, or $48.75 a month, or $10.83 a week, I drive what I want, the way I want. I don't get Starbucks drinks so... You can buy one of these N version Hyundai's for $33-$34K and pay the extra five or six hundred in fuel cost, and still come out a lot cheaper than buying some $50K sports car. A Mustang GT with the track options needed to actually do a 20-30 minute session is going to run around $50K these days, and you are talking about a two door sport car vs four door sedan or hatchback. These are not meant to be the fastest car at the track day, they are fun, affordable, very practical, daily drivers that you can also ring out for 20-30 minutes on a track and have a lot of fun, also on the street as well without losing your license. They cost more and the mileage is not great compared to the econo-versions, but that is the price you pay for having some fun. Trying to compare these with actual sports cars is just absurd. If you don't need the practicality then buy a sports car, why even look at these? What else has four doors, all that room, and can even come close to what these can do on a track in this price range? Brand new, 10 year warranty, under $35K, I can't think of anything, can you? I just notice you said gas is $4 a gallon where you live (it is $3.50 where I live) even so the difference is still only $668 a year, think about that when you are looking at mileage vs cost. Like these people that spend $35K for a Prius because it gets somewhat better gas mileage than some other $15K-$20K econo car. It makes no sense financially or environmentally, but a lot of folks did it anyway, go figure.

@@ericmichel3857 that 668 a year makes the GTI actually cheaper in the long run as you just proved . I dont care what the window sticker says . Of every one who tests the cars averages 20mpg ( car and driver , motor trend , Edmunds) than it a sign that is what you will get . The GTI in every test does way higher than what the sticker says in the real world . The mustang in every test averages about 18-20mpg . The hyundai company cars are a bit less money but after 4 years gas alone makes up the difference. You drive in manual mode revving the shit out of your car is the reason your MPG is low , do that in the other car and it will be even lower.

@@Spiritcr1jsher Well no, not really. Like I said I actually own a GTI and barely get 20 MPG with it. This proves either car can produce better or much worse mileage based on conditions and driving style. Case in point from Car and Driver's long term Veloster N article search "Our 2019 Hyundai Veloster N Got Better with Age" "While the N averaged only 24 mpg during its stay-1 mpg less than its EPA combined estimate-it did post 30 mpg on our 75-mph highway test, bettering its EPA highway figure by 2 mpg." So yes even the Veloster N can achieve 30 MPG possibly even better. EPA mileage ratings are determined using consistent controlled testing methods and are therefore the most accurate method of comparison. Yes, it is possible to do better or much worse depending on many variables, all this tells us is that individual results are virtually useless for comparison. Like I said some folks get well over 30 MPG with a GTI whereas I routinely get less than 20 MPG. If you are worried about about fuel economy there are far better options. The GTI is a good car but it is boring as f#ck, throttle response is anemic, the shift linkage and clutch engagement is long and vague, it is an understeering pig, and the exhaust noise is completely uninspiring. Most sport driving enthusiast that buy this car (like me) then spend thousands more to fix all these issues with aftermarket exhaust, suspension components, throttle booster, short throw shifter, shift linkage... With this N line Hyundai has done all of this for us, it is brilliant! Oh and it all comes with a 10 year 100K warranty, so when the warranty on that VW is long over on the VW it is not even halfway over on this car, how much is that worth on a car that is made to be driven hard? So the actual difference in fuel costs is nowhere near the example I gave, and when you factor in all these other things, the value Hyundai brings with these N cars is so far beyond anything VW offers, it is not even close.

The GLH was my first car! 1985. Nice to hear it mentioned.

Which N? Is it still doing well?

@@pokeunleashed Elantra N-DCT. I've had no problems 11k miles. I recently had a tune done to it, it's sitting at 322 whp. I put in a rear motor mount last weekend so now launch control is actually cool. The car is a beast, I love it. The after market is really starting to come alive for this car now.

I think it looks good

@@kyle8523 i do too, it looks very fresh

I think it looks great

No lie lol, this thing sure is ugly.

I own one and I agree LOL the front and sides imo are heinous

Purely based on the track the BRZ but I would imagine the N’s are actually faster. I just prefer RWD 👊🏻

@@chronodriver Thanks for your reply. Love your reviews. There are a few KZfaqrs who present and review sporty cars very well, but being a professional race car driver brings a different level of authority and expertise that is much appreciated.

It is not

Just don't buy European and you will be fine. Even better, buy Japanese

I'd love to be there when you tell your friends you bought a high performance vehicle and then show up with a 2005 Toyota camry 😂

@@Hilmi12 Name one modern performance Japanese car. You can't.

@@boygonewhoopdataZZ Honda Civic SI, Honda Civic type-r, Subaru WRX STI

@@boygonewhoopdataZZ replying to his criteria of performance. Also modern Japanese performance car? The new Nissan Z

Goes Like Hell Goes Like Hell, Some more 😉

It had the same 2.2 turbo engine though, didn't it?

sheesh the 2022 is going to be 40k god knows what he mark ups will be the gr yaris if it even comes to the usdm is looking like 40k+ to get to the states. Right up with the 400z price range. IF these 6 speed elantra N's actually sell for the 32k entry they claim ill be shocked to see any with premium options or PS4 tires for 35-37k...if anything the base models will be marked up to 35k and the premium optioned ones will sell for 37...since the type r will be priced "out of reach" to some/most people when they see the base price of an SI or elantra N. Plus you work at a dealership...its not like id feel comfortable taking my type R to just any "shop" especially if its covered under warranty id feel the same with a Hyundai N if not like 50x over for hyundai given the amount of "tuner" shops that specialize in them compared to honda. Then again id probably want to tune the elantra N to make more power or look into if people are running e85 etc and so on. Even though it strikes as a more ideal daily e85 is almost points against the ideal daily direction

This vid makes me so happy. TFL couldn’t have picked a better person to do this review.

Wish there was more track footage

Umm, no, I came here to hear all of what Paul has to say about these cars.

Well said.

Oh c’mon man save the sedans. They’re disappearing 1 by 1 every year. My philosophy is: if it only seats 4-5, it’s gonna be a sedan. How often is that extra utility gonna be needed? Not trying to be rude, it’s just sad seeing the sedans dying off, we’ve already lost almost all the coupes and station wagons.

@@jaysson1151 Only North America has a fixation for sedan. I've owned 10 cars in my lifetime and averaged over 200k in each. The two hatchbacks were my most endearing. (1998 Civic DX and 1985 CRX). Perhaps it's the hatchback that's making sedans disappear, vs it being jacked up and on 4WD.

@@jaysson1151 And honestly, as someone who used to have to rent a lot of cars for me and my family. All of these hatchbacks and SUVs are much harder to pack than a sedan with a trunk. So much so, I had a pretty simple "rule" when it came to renting cars. "As long as it has a trunk." Sure, I guess, if you can fold down rear seats you get more "utility" in an SUV, but cargo space behind the rear seats in most hatchbacks and SUVs is laughably small.

@@psewgobind I dunno, the hatchbacks seem to be disappearing with their sedan counterparts. At least the American brands did. Mazda is killing their midsize sedan next year. Although it didn’t come as a hatchback. Like what Marc said, the only time when cargo space is useful in a compact crossover or hatchback is when the back seat is folded down. Otherwise it’s laughably small and useless if you have passengers in the back seat.

Great of you keep stock! Awd is what you want if modded.

They use sequential.

Love my fiesta ST … best 19k ever spent.. I agree wholeheartedly. Bang for buck is an important consideration.. just need a bit more size with growing family. The Elantra or Kona may be a nice little upgrade.

Sonoma (Sears Point) is one of the best tracks in the world. Having said that it would be fun to set a time at IMI!

It’s a hatchback with an identity crisis.

@@vr6gls and your just a hater with a car with a shitty tune. Gtfo if you don't like these cars

But the golf R is way more expensive. So you can't do that. The gti is about the same price as a elantra n

@@Whileweweresinners 2l turbo forget the price you compare the Germany quality with Korean quality

not happening

Yes

Mk8 r is in a different league all together. R would smash any n.

@@davothegreat9990 15k price delta

17:43

I own a mustang GT, 20mpg isn’t possible unless it’s on the highway.

@@danp8309 i had a 2011 gt , 2015 50th anniversary and i just sold my 2019 gt PP1 and they all got average of 19-21mpg . The 2019 got me 27mpg from Massachusetts to NY . Now i drive a miata that gets 42mpg highway because gas in NY is getting out of hand.

@@Spiritcr1jsher interesting, I’ve got a 2014 GT track pack and I have to short shift and feather the throttle just to get 17-18 mpg. If i have any sort of fun I get 14-15.

@@danp8309 i had a 2011 and a 2015 and those cars got worse than the 2019gt . My 2019 gt has 5/6th gears overdriven. The 2011 and 2015 mt82 has 5th gear as a 1:1 with only 6th as a slight overdriven gear . I was doing almost 80mph at 2100rpms in 6th gear where the 2011 gt was close to 3000rpms at 85mph in 6th , which should be the same as your 2014 if you have a 3:73 diff.