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We need more channels like yours. Idk about others, but one of the reasons why I trust and listen to you and what you have to say on these more pop stories is because you have already built a catalogue of video essays on more academic subjects and have shown that you can dig deep and articulate what you have seen. But you never go full on cultist/extremist when sharing these ideas as if they were the end all be all. You are not a pusher of YOUR ideas, but a pusher of ideas (that interest you). For sure we cannot escape the fact that a part of you is always embedded, but i feel your opinion is never centrefold. And for that, you are invaluable, trusted and listened by me with care.

Great stuff as always. I've lost a friend while trying to make that point. Early on in the history of this debate. I always wondered how so many of us were able to interpret a certain event as a systemic social disaster while others considered it an intentional social treachery. And then you would switch roles for another, very similar social event. How are we so fragile in our mental rigor? It reminds me of the question raised by Dave Chappelle "how old is fifteen really?", where he raises the simple question of the double standard. I feel that it puts more weight behind the idea that to deny the deterministic part of the explanation of human behavior is to enforce a moral battle between theories with different starting biases. The refusal to restrain a political or moral engagement during social commentary is an issue because it pins down two identical thought trajectories against one another. It makes enemies out of two similar minded people who would've otherwise been able to have great discussions with cooperative conclusions. Wish you the best continuation as always.

Empathy and justice are definitely human impulses, but they are not our primary ones (though we flatter ourselves to think so). The lust for power and greed are much stronger. Some of us go for the grand prize of them all: moral superiority (“I’m a good person and you are not”). For all our advances, we still haven’t got the slightest idea what to do with evil: what is it and what do we do about it? All we know for certain is that it belongs to the “other” and not to “us”. Thus, we play an eternal game of hot potato.

Great Video! A clear 3rd person take on the matter imo, really well done. Also, congratulations on 60k subs! 🎉

This was pure fire 🔥 very enlightening video. People don't realize that they have the opposite inside themselves that need exploring. It can end up as shadow work because they depressed it and what these two groups could be doing shadow projecting. Thank You, excellent job. 🖤🌹

The ability to find understanding by being objective is something we seem to have lost as a collective. Your ability to be see from a birds eye view is something that we should all strive for.

Imagine understanding that life isnt about binary choices, isnt about enslaving yourself to peer group and their identity or illusion of political choice. Great content, sir. Keep it up.

You forgot to mention one side has actual science, facts and centuries of studies and literature backing its position.

Perhaps a session on retracting projections would be in order. Husserl's and Gebser's work come to mind as well as Jung.

"There is no longer relegion but culture wars is the opium of the masses" We really need more channels like yours nowdays! Thank you very much for all the great work presented in the channel.

Consider that this video essay is saturated in “false equivalencies.”

Hey, refreshing and liberating video. Better than the 12 that I watched today since discovering your channel this morning and they were fascinating. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses. CG Jung. Condemnation is such a "miracle grow" nutrient for the ego:)

Wow, never seen someone (besides my bf, love him) be so truly unbiased in their assessment of a sociopolitical event such as this. I really appreciate your true empathy extended to both “sides.” I feel like your point about not being on social media is true; I’ve been off for over a year and I feel better able to look at both sides and see the merits and struggles of both. Fantastic video!

Thank God that even with the rise in social media, there are authentic voices among the chorus (that would be YOU) reminding us to view life from a better angle. Your video reminded me of Postman's "Amusing ourselves to death" book that I read when it came out in the mid-1980s. In the book, the author explained how media (radio and TV at the time) shortened our attention span and allowed others to program our thinking. The book was so interesting and scary because you could see the reality that you hadn't noticed in your day-to-day life. Now, it's 2022, and you point out the insanity once again. With the 24 hr news cycle and social media, it's easier than ever to program or amuse the masses. In this newer hyper-social version, we all align in camps and war against the other team. We are entertained, stressed, addicted to the likes, and of course, we stay distracted and manageable because we let others "think" for us. I am sure the insanity of our system was glaringly evident after stepping away for a bit. So I'm happy you are addressing this and giving us some interesting insights. The story of the child making fun of the man just so he could get attention was the perfect analogy for what you were about to explain. The cultural blaming is childish, stupid, and meant to garner attention. It only detracts from the world; it doesn't add value. Thank you for reminding us to work harder to avoid the chest-beating stupidity of "our side but not your side." Overall I have to say the way you have consistently been able to take a wide-angle view of life is fabulous. I love your authenticity. Your videos add value and make me think. Thank you!

Thank you, so glad to hear your point of view as it seems near impossible to find content that is not tainted in some way when it comes to this topic. I have found the tribal nature of this "culture war" to be exhausting and it is a breath of fresh air to hear an unemotional and unbiased analysis, because at its core it is really a fascinating development in collective psychology.

Philosophizing about interplays between the left and right is a trope and a pseudo-intellectual crutch. Honest people realize the need for third and fourth ways, and must address the single concrete obstacle to their introduction, vote-splitting. Unsexy as it may seem, conversations about game-theory and incentives need to be had, and changes to the rules be made, in order to make free thought possible.

It is said that wisdom lies not in seeing things but in seeing through things. Audi Vide Tace.

Hey man, what a great video. One thing from your video that really stuck with me and that I had also noticed, is that feedback loop. When I first found out about Peterson people didn't hate him nearly as much and his message wasn't nearly as extreme. I wish he would tone it down, and that the media would stop trying to frame him as an alt-right guy. But let's be honest, that's not happening. I'm somewhat of a fan of Peterson. Not because of his political message, but because of how much his books helped me and people I know. I wouldn't consider Peterson alt-right or hateful, but I'm a brown man. I believe maybe some women and trans people might disagree. In the end of the day we're all still poor, and both Peterson and the media outlets keep getting richer ahaha. [Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Ecuador]

The optimātēs needed the populārēs, as well as the inverse. It seems to be a common theme in history. It’s amazing how easily both sides claimed to want to restore the republic while condemning the other side as though they were destroying it, not knowing that the two opposing forces were the reason for the turmoil. Both sides had valid points, and both sides did horrible things. If the gap between conservative and progressive becomes too large, the entire system crumbles.

I see it very much in the same way, thanks!

Though I don't entirely agree, your explanation and analysis left me on the edge of the couch for most of the video. Thank you.

Wonderful channel. Can't wait to consume more content. Thank you buddy!

This was really interesting - as you always are - thank you! At the risk of oversimplifying a complex phenomenon, I wonder how much this has to do with the inherent difficulties for our own individual struggles with the subjective experience of hate. In general, the expression of hatred in social situations is at best frowned upon and at worst a veritable taboo. However, if there is a convenient Other to direct my hatred towards - then this all changes. Not only can I feel it is now OK to feel hatred towards this Other, but now expressing this hatred is (on occasion) rewarded - so problem of hatred solved (well sort of, not really, but I feel a lot better about it at least for the moment anyway)...

I loved every second of this!!! I've bad this exact same perception of the culture wars for quite a while now. Both sides are equally wrong, because the fundamental mistake is the belief that there are "sides". Both the woke and the alt right insist that if you aren't on their side, you're the enemy. I don't want to join either of these ridiculous teams. I prefer to live in a world populated by individuals - each one entirely unique and worthy of respect and compassion. It's an almost unspeakable cliche, but what I believe in is trying my best to practice love towards every person I encounter. I honestly believe that if everyone did this, all of the suffering and injustice being ranted about by culture warriors on both sides would cease to exist.

Never believe someone who doesnt take thier own advice/ self help moves.

What is your background with philosophy? I am currently an undergrad studying philosophy, and I can only dream of having the knowledge and articulation that you do with philosophical material. Amazing content, man. Keep it up!

Hi James, I’m always delighted to hear your take on current events. I will read The Cut article, but I have to say that New York Magazine (and its offshoots) is ground zero for the culture war. If you want to see an issue tweaked to the sky, read that crew. Another comment I’d like to make is that Peterson, as much of a lightning rod as he is, is the idealistic end of the QAnon spectrum. He does make good fodder for philosophical minds, especially because his thinking is so sloppy, but there are real evil guys out there. Two that come to mind are Alex Jones and Steve Bannon. There are others. They all share the character trait of concocting paranoid lies for money and attention. They have a psychology that I cannot for the life of me understand, no less imagine. They are philosophically-resistant, so I don’t foresee you getting down in that dirt. But it is important to remember that clever magazines like NY are the tip of the iceberg of what’s going on, even though it is an entertaining tip meant to rile.

Tbf I don’t there is any good reason why Jordan Peterson would empathise with “woke” people. Especially when those group of people constant attack him and belittle his work.

I really appreciate this video, but do you believe there's ever a risk of being to even handed? I'm a working class white male that's always voted left in the past, so I feel particularly torn in the culture war. On one side I'm the face of the enemy, as you say, and on the other side I disagree with most of the conservative values, at least as they are enacted in the political sphere. What I find being in the middle is it becomes about degrees for me. I believe Jordan Peterson would at least acknowledge the validity of your argument here. I don't think Olivia Wilde would. I have no proof of that, but I do find as a centrist that the conservative side is more excepting of my differing views at this point in time. I could see that flip, and I believe I am seeing that now, but at this moment in time the left seems way more intolerant and threatening to me. For instance at work we're being forced to go through EDI training. I would be just as horrified if I was being forced to take conservative value training at work, but at this point I'm not. Much the way there was a tug of war between left and right across Europe at the start of the 20th century, at some point one or the other would get the upper hand, and then the real trouble would start. How do you avoid being too even handed to the point that you refuse to criticize one side more than the other, even when one side gains the upper hand and begins to use their power to attack all dissenters? At this point the 'woke' side in the western world, seems to have aligned itself with the military, the majority of the media, the corporations, and many of reigning politicians.

Love the video! I was actually following Peterson for years (except for his courses on the Bible) even before his controversy on the recent media. I always admired and still admire his intellect and academic rigor. I align with his stance on free speech and I like his focus on the individual as the locus of the world, Q1. But also I always thought he was a bit too assertive and provocative. He would loudly demonize so big a part of humanity (like the so-called “woke” compassion for the marginalized). You summarized exactly what has caused my worry about his recent development. So thank you 🙏

Wonderful, wonderful understanding.

Peterson is great. I don’t really care for Olivia Wilde, I can’t really say she’s said anything that’s proven to be of benefit to me, and of course I am wary of anything the establishment media pushes. I don’t always agree with Peterson, either, but his insights have given me much guidance in terms of my understanding of psychology and life. It’s a shame the media demonises this good man, and glorifies shallow, nonsensical people like Wilde, who in my opinion have nothing of value to offer. That said, I clicked on your video out of interest. I’d also add Peterson isn’t ‘alt-right,’ I think your understanding of him isn’t very good if you actually believe that, because if you’ve ever spoken to literally any alt right person, they very highly dislike him precisely because, in their view, he de-radicalises people due to his refusal to think in black and white generally, and his advocacy of reason rather than mere appeal to emotions (I have friends who are both wokes and alt-right people, I like to speak to everybody because I do believe every place can offer something of insight, but that doesn’t mean every person affiliated with x group is insightful. Olivia Wilde is vapid and has nothing meaningful to say. If you were to ask me to point to a woke/left-leaning person who DOES have something of value to offer, it’d be Dr. Gabor Mate. His politics are very cringe sometimes, but I cannot deny that he has a LOT of knowledge where trauma applies, much like Peterson does where self-inquiry/self-actualisation and Jungian archetypes are concerned, even if I don’t agree 100% with Peterson politically. [It’s also worth noting Peterson now works for Daily Wire, which is owned by Ben Shapiro. I don’t like Shapiro or Matt Walsh either because I find them as abrasive as someone like Olivia Wilde, though Shapiro is certainly intelligent, he’s just obnoxious. But he is obviously very pro-Israel/a Zionist, and Peterson is also, which is fundamentally opposed to alt-right philosophies. This is why your summation of Peterson as part of the ‘alt-right’ is just flat-out wrong. Olivia Wild is very much far left, though, but that’s not surprising since the majority of figures pushed by the establishment media are woke/far left, though most don’t walk the walk [I would respect them a lot more if they practised what they preached, and before anyone comments on my summation of Wilde as vapid/obnoxious speculating it’s sexism, I’d say the same of someone like Vaush or Hasan Piker, if anything, Hasan is the worst of all named. I’m also a woman, and clearly can think/advocate for independent thought in every citizen, because that’s how we create an efficient society. Olivia Wilde just isn’t it, especially with her irrational hatred of Peterson - all she is, is a propagandist, and it is precisely because she doesn’t bother to think deeply about anything [anyone who actually bothered to study Peterson or listen to what he has to say would know he is neither alt-right, nor even villainous, it is very clear she hasn’t actually studied his work and is too much of an extremist to even hear what he has to say] that I disdain her.)

JBP got me into philosophy and psych in the first place; to the point that I got a degree in psych and now work in behavioral health. The more I have learned, though, the more I have moved away from his ideas. I would stand by that his early psych lecture videos were outstanding, but other than that, I've lost interest in and respect for many of his ideas. Your channel rules.

There's something very unsettling about a psychologist, earning millions giving advice and selling books on self-help, being so obviously emotionally unstable and psychologically troubled. Many practicing professional psychoanalysts have peer analysts and rely on them to help monitor their own mental health. I wonder if Peterson has a peer psychologist?

Great video. Liked the framework you used, and I think most of it is pretty on-point. The election in Brazil has just happened and the only reason both candidates got to where they were was that self-reinforcing dynamic of identifying through opposition. Hit home a bit. Having said that: I'd say is slanderous calling JP alt-right. If you read wikipedia's or southern poverty law center's definition' of alt-right; I mean; alt-right is just not at all what he's about. He's mainstream. Be mindful of the false equivalencies and of throwing labels around.

it's been a while mr j, but good to catch up with your vids. as a big jordan fan it was refreshing to get this perspective. keep up your great work and off to see martin heideggar next. yours, loyally, stoic joe.

Beautifully said!!

Great content as always, I have also noticed a change when off social media. I used to have 5 different social media apps and I have narrowed down to 2 (KZfaq and Facebook). Not only can I think more clear but also make time to focus on my goals and develop better critical thinking skills. Thanks to on content like yours I strive to be more knowledgeable in the political, but more importantly philosophical sphere. Thank you for all that you do and keep up the great work my friend!

I really, really do appreciate your CONTENT (it's rather rare the signified is worth this signifier, but in the case of this channel it's the right word). Keep on trying to balance things out! It's a necessary change of scenery...

Thought provoking. Thanks for the vid!

Hey! I've been following you for months now, I really enjoy your content. There's however a difficulty for me to fully understand you, because of your accent. I am myself originally foreign to the english language as a Quebecois (french-canadian), and subtitles would really help me following your thought processes with more ease! Thank you thought!

Great video, James! Loved the nod to the meaning crisis at the end there 😉

Amazing video, thank you for making it. I wish more people would step back and view the culture war from this angle instead of just jumping in and fanning the flames. Do you have any thoughts on how we might resolve this conflict peacefully before it spirals into some kind of physical war or an irreparable schism?

Great insight! However, to add my two cents, viewers should not be tricked into thinking that both sides are equally bad. I don't think that's the message in the video. On one hand, it is still unsafe to be part of the LGBTQ community and on the other, being an incel does not endanger you.

I’m not sure that you’re giving Peterson the proper criticism on this issue. The misinterpretation (and downright defamation) of Jordan Peterson in the media originally cane from not understanding that he came to fame by criticizing the Canadian left, which tends to be far more liberal than the American left. This seems to have colored the current narrative on the Internet about Peterson. He doesn’t warn of the dangers of the left based on some some psychological projection we can armchair-psychologize about. The excesses and censorship that the is pushing are really that dangerous. The same goes for the right. And this is coming from somebody who has never voted Republican in almost almost 20 years. The dangers that Peterson calls out are the same ones that the left was very much against years ago.

What a great, measured argument you make! It is very much needed in this discourse. A young man who can't find love can be absolutely devastating for that person. They fall into despair, anger and resentment which makes them even more unattractive for women. Never heard in my 41 years of life someone having any sympathy for guys who can't get girls. They were always mocked as losers. Even by their own family members. It's also cross-cultural, not just a western thing. Now those people found someone who understands and has sympathy for them and he's being attacked for standing up for them. This only reenforce their believe that society hates them and that they are on their own. significant

Love the sensible take on the extremes playing off each other! I have to wonder though, how do so many put JBP in the alt-right camp? Scour literally any video/lecture/interview of him from more than 3 years ago, that hasn't been edited with an axe to grind, and he's either disowning the incels and alt-right at every opportunity or speaking words of wisdom as to why their problems are their own fault, and what they should change about their attitudes. I realize the guy sold out and became another professional culture warrior after his benzo fiasco, and that's disappointing. But how are there so many assertions out there about him being a friend to incels who tells them they deserve women, when every single time it's come up he's said the exact opposite?

Thank you for your work. I hope you realize how important it is.

Wow, man. This is excellent! I have sort of just started watching youtube, etc. videos in the past couple of years, and like you, concerned with getting sucked into the debates between the Peters-esk group and the woke or "new alt-left", knowing that I could spiral into their debate, and know that it is a distraction from the true issues of wealth gap, run-away capitialism and consumption, but you were magic with this one. I just subscribed to your channel today and this is the 3rd of your videos I have watched.

How could Jordan Peterson possibly be a bad person? Not even close. He helps people. Who cares about Oliva Wilde? Nobody!

This is very insightful.

Interesting analysis. It gives me food for thought. Thanks

Fabulous analysis! Great thinking, very clear 👍.

this is really interesting. more compassion y'all. .

Great analysis as always. Great video.

Loved this episode!! Thanks so much for accurately describing exactly what we’re dealing with right now. It really gathered momentum since all the the Covid lockdowns & mandates. Divisive ++ A real us & them syndrome. Why has this situation developed and how can we stop it?

I tend to find, it takes someone to know them selves somewhat before they can objectively view others situations, in a way that can see the broader overarching context and forces at play molding attitudes. It often surprises me how many artists are closed minded when having critical self introspection seems to me to be and essential component or requirement to be a real artist. Historians have the benefit of a longer view of events to get perspective too. Sometimes these people are to close the the front, too engaged but then again they are making the history and perhaps its a luxury to sit back and be the spectator. ..hmm i think now i know why whisky was invented.

Our cognitive biases are so strong man! I read this article and literally thought at the time that wow Olivia Wilde, someone I really liked, was such a horrible person for saying all this about Jordan Peterson without taking the time to get to know him, but when I read his comment about her movie, I didn't find anything wrong with that. Of course, over time I've seen Jordan Peterson get more and more bitter and resentful towards the other side, and only now can I see how his comment about the movie is exactly the same as her comment about him.

Thank you for this!!

3:20 this part kind of lowers my optimisim about the video, you give definitions for both sides, then say that neither side would likely use that definition for themselves, but the definition you gave of the left really is the mainstream ''good'' definition. Instead of far left you called them progressives, wich in general has better connotations, and instead of saying that they have SJWs on their side you said they fight for equality and minorities But for the right you called them the alt right, wich has all the bad connotations, and instead of saying that they fight for certain traditional values and maybe for the well being of men you said they have incels on their side. This is the type of introduction that will make most people who agree with Peterson to leave, and the few that remain will already be defensive, wich makes the video into a bit of an echochamber from the start, wich deminishes the impact of whatever insightfull points you might make later.

Thank you, your mind is wise. I like you. Just discovered your video. Your face has intelligence and your words well spoken. ❤

Love your channel!!!! Thank you 😊

It takes a lot of courage to defend JBP nowadays, even if it's just some aspects of his work with young men, because of some of the things he said and the people he has sided with, but this is by far the most fair take I've seen on the whole situation. Once again, great video.

A movement of compassion would not conduct themselves routinely in the manner that the woke crowd does. I have to disagree with your characterization of their motives.

Wow! I’m seeing this video now much later than when the events took place, but I am still so appreciative of this perspective. I have felt this deeply for a long time. But this video put it into a more fleshed out idea. I really do have compassion for both sides of this culture war and coming from an upbringing in catholic school (that I later fully resented) I really feel the point of these tribal wars filling the space of new religions. People feel that they must identify and fight on behalf of that ideology. But under this false narrative of compassion. Because the compassion is so conditional.

I have no idea why some people take seriously the idea that Peterson caters to white young males….. literally there’s nothing he’s written I’ve seen that suggests that at all. His work is about the struggle of life in general for everyone if all races and genders and I think it’s clearly obvious unless I’m missing something. The majority of his audience doesn’t prove anything… if someone can point why this is sticking I’d appreciate it

Hence Tantra. The essentially creative act is the union of opposites - especially when they unite in Love. "Wokeness" and "alt-rightness" unite the two as well .... but in hate-fueled antagonism. I always say that I love my wife (I do), but we have a semi-antagonistic relationship - and we both *prefer* it like that. Sometimes we fight .... sometimes we do the opposite of fight (she's me wife after all). Peterson and Wilde will never, *EVER* "get a room". That tells me all I need to know about the relationship between them.

In my opinion we live in post-hegelian/post-marxist paradigma of Hegels dialectics (thesis-antythesis-synthesis). This perception is so wrong on many levels and at the same time easiest for majority to accept. This happens because "we" vs, "they" mentality is deeply rooted in the most basic social instincts of small tribal/early agrarian communities from the past, that were desperately trying to keep their unity and protect themselves from all dangerous outside factors that might threatening them. So this mechanism is strong and had been santctified on the abstract/academic level by concepts of Hegel and in sociological area by Marx and his disciples. Of course historically we can find this pattern earlier in many examples and colours, but this particular tradition is the most actual. And all this culture wars are fought in journalistic maneer where brutal actions, eristic tumbles and the most deprived mockery is justified by the goal. We live in time of opportunities. We have so many options to communicate with people, their cultures and point of views. Yet we're still stuck in paradigmas of modern age, when industrial revolution forced people from the villages to leave their universe and move to the fabrics, where they were deprived from their roots, their pride and their resources and what they've got back instead was primitive mass media and political agitation from mass parties whos ideology was vulgar versions of most fashionable philosophies at that time (class conflict, ethnic conflict, social darwinism, nitschean ubermensch and so on). We are descendents of these "masses" (how terrible this term sounds!) and these generational patterns are still playing key role in our social life. Personalism and individuation (in jungian therms) is really hard thing to maintain because it requires wider perspective and more inclusive narrations. The hegelian dialectic kills everything - religious life, social life, familiy life. But it feeds media and it feeds conflict and wildcatters who are taking profits from it. It made huge tragedies (nazism, communism, imperialism) but is still largely used.

Always interesting. It reminds me a video I've just seen, from a let say almost «woke» angle, analyzing the emotional issue and its perception. It was advocating canalizing this rage in art and other forms of external committment, including political and social committments, so it doesn't become an inward endangering focus for persons experiencing this rage. And it was conveid in a well manner but I then remember all the revolutionnary rage felt that have been used by the past History in the name of the struggle for justice, and, while I can understand how it is legitimate in a way as it was interpreted as the natural human reaction against immoral or should I rather say amoral cold advocating of oppression, I also don't think it is a safe way to get justice (especially in long term). And there was this french philosopher Simone Weil, observing how political organizations and associations doesn't rule but amplify passions in order to perpetuate them, and making it become their ultimate tool. Result, I'm able to be in rage about both these injustices defences and these self-destroying socio-political strategies valuing rage as a collective tool, standing without a group like if I was the reverse of that mocking guy. I'm wondering if I'm not having several Shadows struggling with ! Is that even possible ? Have you seen this video ? Do you have some thoughts about it ? LINK: q7Vh9nDNBi0

This is so goood thank you

I think you helped open a door for me that I couldn't open myself.i am taking my steps away from nihilism.something I thought was a door I couldn't shut.thank you g.

Really? You thought this was worth putting out? One personally insulted the other, at scale ; offered no debate or discussion. There's no equivalence there.

This is so true, and so important, but it's IMPOSSIBLE to show anyone this who is caught up in the polarity - they just won't hear it. Their defense mechanisms will block it out at all costs, as if you are attacking their actual identity, because insofar as they identify with their side, you ARE attacking their identity.

Great video and very thought provoking, but saying they are mirrors - doesn’t this indicate they are both equally morally worthwhile? Seems a strange sort of binary pluralism to me. It is possible, mirrors though they may be in form, that one side is “more right” than the other. Unless you don’t believe in that sort of thing, which from your other stuff it seems like you do. I could be wrong. Anyway thanks again for a measured thoughtful video

I like the fact that you point out that the extremes feed each other, and become interdependent in various ways. Just don´t say that Peterson is alt-right, he's just as moderate as u can get politically. It only even makes sense to say he's a conservative from an Oakeshottian perspective (Michael Oakeshott), which is not equivalent to the US conservative one (but I'm not sure Americans are ready to have that conversation anyway). I know you´re an open minded and rational man, so it's hard for me to see how you associate JBP with the alt right, when it's the woke who put him there. He has condoned the alt-right publicly numerous times, and his viewers are not automatically alt-right based on the fact that they're mostly white males. But I guess you also fancy identity politics in some way, or fell prey to it unwillingly, because Peterson has never said anything close to what could be considered alt-right… If anything, what makes sense is that Peterson is the voice of reason that the alt-right guys can leverage to have more moderate and sensible views… You used the mirror analogy, but I think a medical one is more accurate. If you ask me, the woke movement is the symptom of this postmodern world, the alt-right is the negative consequence of the symptom spreading, and Peterson is “just” one possible cure. Not a miraculous one, he's not the savior, but as a post-grad psych student, it seems to me that his understanding of various fields, particularly because they are grounded in science and history, not just opinions or ideas, make him probably the most effective one to guide in the right direction. I will not, but I can argue that if you don´t understand why. I usually find your videos insightful, particularly when you don't talk about JBP, cause I found them just inaccurate and as a thinker you should be more careful. Anyway, keep an open mind, keep making videos!

As Thich Nhath Hanh said, "No view is right view." Can you play those guitars? What do you like to play?

the greatest video i’ve seen in a while

Sorry I can’t see how Olivia Wilde is on the same side as Jordan Peterson .. she completely warped what he was saying which is sad

Awesome as always 👏

I had to google for Olivia Wilde, i think i only watched her in House. I mostly agree with you until the More quote(that to me is a social reductionist of the spiritual which is not a human creation, at least for me). I think the world needs much more spirituality, we are reducing everything to the social realm, this is cognitive shelter

The problem goes way back, even reducing it to *the English Reformation, the Puritan Commonwealth and the Radiacl Enlightenment of the Whigs* is a simplification as threads can be spun into continental Europe and 'a modernizing Catholicism', itself when spawning e.g. Vatican Banking - but in regard to the *political culture* of the New World, *the English Revolutions and the French Revolution are the historical events that characterize and dominate US identity - and to which by 'Dionysian' necessity a subculture is attached, like a shadow* . The _actual_ , de facto *political process* is even more puzzling as under Cromwell, an international network of spycraft against the Spanish Hapsburg was installed in England, conducted by secularized Jewish merchant bankers, their family ties and alongside an anti-clerical, secular Masonic movement, organized in secret societies (e.g. Scottish Rite, the Grande Orient of France ect.) - shattering the hall of mirrors that is constructed by the liberal, imperialist Whig Interpretation of History of 'rule of law' and 'checks and balances' - leaving the concept of a 'balance of power' on the continent by Maximilien de Béthune, Duke of Sully as the only sincere political maxim, Western civilization still adheres to. Peterson studied Russian literature and Hebrew traditional scripture which makes part of his psychology more profound than what can be expected by New World technocratic Behaviorism, yet as a prominent citizen of the Canadian Commonwealth, he is also entangled in an utopia of an English Speaking, Transatlantic liberal empire and 'corporate psychology' - which means, he can't step into the mysteries of Christ, fully and renounce Puritan heresy and Masonic secularization in the Americas, leaving him no other outlet for original though than criticizing an astro-turfed Trotskyite 'intersectionalism' that is with all probability, tied to the CIA ('Congress for Cultural Freedom', 'Democracy Now'). Lacking a fuller picture of his own role in a liberal society - where the 'universal middle class' is interchangeable with a 'classless society' - with a social hierarchy as steep as that between the barons of Westminster and Royalist yeomen... The common trait of Puritans - with their work ethics of predestination - Whig imperialists, Feminists, Marxists and 21st century 'Social Justice Warriors' is their _zealotry_ of moralization and the pursuit of an *utopia* (one can debate, how much e.g. Eric Vögelin was adressing when comparing the Gnostic cults of the early, imperial Roman Principate to modernist rhetorics and social structure and warned of an 'immantization of the eschaton'). While it is possible to integrate the rise of chauvinism like that of the German Nazi Party into the events - propagating an ethnically and genteically engineered nationstate - I reargd them de facto as mere agents of _decomposition_ , undermining *a **_decolonizing_** traditionalism* (from the 'Highland Clearances' to the Chinese Civil War). Because the New World can have only a fake 'conservatism' along William Buckley's 'National Review' (CIA as the other half of the 'Mighty Wurlitzer' of 'manufactured consensus'), propagating 'anti-Communism', the American 'Right' will always be fake, peddling merchandise after a ranting against statist social and culture policies that won't uplift the working poor, deceived and poisoned. The process that lead to these contemplations in itself is noteworthy and deserving of a more systematic exploration - when it comes to the US, the country will be destroyed before the mid of the century is reached, say 2045 - a century after the collapse of the very Nazi Germany, US bankers helped to conjure.

The one side could maybe from the same coin, but the one side that has the hero "GOD" to follow should be the obvious path to follow as it contains the truth and true virtue regardless that the other side has compassion because compassion can be used to manipulate as well. Don't forget that.

Dude love you. Very good insights you have.

The "divide and rule" perspective appears to be the situation. Better that the little people argue amongst themselves than notice where they are being exploited. It's such an old game. It can be played in any society because societies rely on pluralism. Thus, a cynical politician or media baron seeking distractions can always poke at the divide between the "warriors" and "healers" (to use very rough archetypes).

I think the most important takeaway is that society is, as a whole, grossly immature and naive in their lack of awareness of social engineering and the actual common enemy both "sides" face. Relentless propaganda is a powerful tool ...

Always love to see JP being compared to those he fights against.

I dont think Jordan Peterson is alt right but he is definitely a socially conservative the opposite of woke.

God, this is so well done lol.

The Robert Moore passage Is LITERALLY Peterson’s problem with the “Woke” lol I think its a little goofy to flip the argument on him like that but I can see how someone might overlook that.

So very well said.

Someone already said this about left and right being a poor thing and I agree it is a false dichotomy. So I relied to them and wanted to share this with you. There is one method: trichotomy of values. You have 3 mutually exclusive values: equality, tradition, freedom. If you want more of one of these you get less of the other two. Now I can expand on this by the method used to define negative and positive freedom. Negative freedom is that other people limit me, positive is accepting other people limit me, there is a attack on Titan video on Eren that covers this by sages rain(?) So negative equality is until I get up a a bit… see bernie saying millionaires and billionaires… then just billionaires once he becomes a millionaire. Of course in other places like politics this applies to ‘oh you’re in the party but not my party inside the party’ Positive equality is more or less treating people fairly and not taking, think charity and not welfare. Tradition is ‘go to college’ in the negative aspect. No we did it before and it worked then, so it’ll work for you even though I’m not there now where you are, or ‘I payed into social security and I’m working it well so you can do- just pay more for mine now and your kids will pay for yours’ Positive more or less is accepting the change and hard times.

This made me blurt out "So true... BUT HOOOOOOOW?!" How they could interpret one thing to a very different thing... Ah, Psychology....lol

Very well said.

Have you ever thought about doing a vid about Erich Fromm? He has quite interesting views on psychoanalysis

Brilliant.

you should have a book club, maybe on patreon if its a 2 way street, or maybe just a monthly video with the expectation that WE read it over that month?

What naturally stands out is how strikingly each camp is completely isolated from the reality of the other (and consequentially reality period) as is what a state of projection does. Is there anything to be done about it? Yes and no. Projection is all part of nature's design. Ir is not so much an adaptation of the psyche as something that _precedes_ the psyche as technology precedes science (not the other way around; there are not scientific principles inherent to the fabric of being that we then discover and apply, but rather praxis; applicability, allows us to form hypotheses.) So on one level all this is a will of God and we would fall apart if people weren't exchanging blame so much as if the economy would collapse if everyone stopped exchanging goods and services. But on the other hand, to the extent that we are conscious we have freedom of choice and therefore responsibility. The dissolution of projections is, after all, part of the big game of life too. But if you want to live in the fantasy of persecuting others, there is nothign truly wrong about doing this either. It just makes you a bit of a jerk. If it's the game you want to play, do it. But you can come off it as well. For my part, the latest thing driving me is ONE, and I have to be relativity certain that some act of projection is at work there as well, but the thing carries on resisting integration. This doesn't mean I am in the wrong and it's all a fantasy -- for ONE unquestionably acts to keep it going as well, otherwise he would have just left me alone and allowed me to forget about OPM altogether. So clearly, for whatever reason, he wants me to give the series my mark of approval. What I can't figure out is why that would ever matter to him or anyone else when they had such little compunction about stealing the story to begin with. It makes more sense with other stories and things i have going on, but I don't understand how ONE and Murata can want be around and yet still give me so much shit and make life so miserable for me.

Great insight, taste the extreem but walk your own path.

Stumbled across your channel - what. a. vibe. you. are. Out of curiosity, is your background Psychology? P.s. Thanks for explaining Phenomenology concisely.