There is already a 500e in the USA how does this one compare?

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They have announced it is coming 2024 to the US.

Congratulations

2024 model is coming!

@DesignedByApple I bought it in 2019 for $7k with about 27k miles on it. The prices of 2016 500e’s have gone up closer to $10k now.

Yes - this is what I explained. Thanks for watching - Kyle

@@OutofSpecReviews I saw that after posting. Mazda or somebody really needs to do a Miata EV, performance tuned low roadster with a modest size 900V battery. Something like that would absolutely eat up autocross and track days. (hey, a guy can dream...)

With a 40kWh battery, I expect no less than 240 HP for an electric crotch rocket...

Is it though? There are always energy losses involved in putting kinetic energy from the moving car to high voltage electric energy in the battery. Coasting has no energy conversion involved. In a perfect world of course there wouldn't be a need to stop for traffic lights or other traffic.

@@MetalMike50 correct but coasting means that the period in which you slow down is WAY longer. If you are driving 70kph and get your foot off the acceleration pedal it's going to be a couple hundred meters until you are stopped. Most likely you'll get down to 55 and then have to apply the brakes. With regen this can be easily controlled, in some cars you'll have regen modes, but in this one by releasing the pedal more or less you can perfectly time your slowing down in a way that maximises regen and avoids holding up traffic for long stretches like it would with coasting at higher speeds. And with efficiency, yes you are correct there is a loss but it's minimal. When I accelerate up to let's say 50kph and the consumption average jumps up 2.6kwh, and then proceed to slow down back to 0 then it will go down 2.4 or 2.5kwh. Maybe 5% loss? max. It's all about how you use the car I suppose. though, as this is my first ever car, I haven't spent that much time in a petrol one, maybe 2-3k km Driving with regen is also WAY more fun and easy to use. Certainly at lower speeds, on the highway it doesn't make much of a difference as the regen is calibrated to act less harshly when driving on the motorway.

This is true But traffic lights and stop signs exist too.

That makes no sense.

Range mode is regen.

But you can.

It goes well with the car. He could pass for an Italian in a pinch.

@@anderspedersen542 Yes. Very cool.

Kreisverkehr = rotunda = roundabout but literally a traffic circle. It make happy moment for me but be careful of drinking too many fizzy drinks.

I own a 2017 Hyundai ioniq Electric and it has about 130 mile range it’s a great car maybe you should look into that and it also has fast charging. I had the same car that you had mines was a 2017 500 E but no fast charging which sucks the car will be perfect actually if it had fast charging even with a 90 mile range

Also there is the Hyundai Kona electric

Thanks for the suggestions. I’ve not had luck finding those models out here in NC. I’ll keep watching for them but they seem to disappear as they’re put up for sale right now.

@@CrankyOldNerd lol your right most of them are in California and due to rise of oil I can see why they are selling I love mine and do Uber with it the battery is lithium polymer which I’ve heard supposed to last longer than lithium ion ⚡️

I loved my 2013 500e but totaled it 6 months ago. It was a great in town driver and was quick but agree that the build quality is poor and the seats were not bolstered enough to hold you in place. At the end of the day I replaced it with a 2017 Ford Fusion Energi plug in hybrid with low miles on it so we could have a 2nd vehicle that can be driven long distance as our 2013 Lincoln MKZ hybrid is at 95,000 miles now...

Good news! Fiat announced they will come back to the US and that the official reveal of the North American 500e will take place at the 2023 Los Angeles Auto Show.

i daily this car at speeds above 100kph for many km's and have never experienced that. there is a lot of wind noise coming from the rear though if you go up to 120-125kph. Ok at 100-110

Or at least less than the $25k price tag of the Chevy bolt. Like I would be ok with basic stuff. Not too many bells an whistles. I’d love to buy one

Way more expensive though

Supposedly coming to the U.S in 2024 with a starting sticker around 21,000 and a 150 mile range.

I hope Kyle can get a look at the Renault Zoe for size. Or more appropriately any of the electric and plug in hybrids from Citroen, Peugeot, Vauxhall and Opel now that they as PSA have merged with FCA

If you HAVE to break (i.e going down hill unsafely fast, or something forces you to stop) then having regen breaking is great. Otherwise you ideally want to coast and keep the energy you've put in as forward momentum. Personally I drive my Leaf with high regen mode on and make sure I don't let it break unless necessary, giving the best of both worlds

All Euro prices include 20% VAT. When you take the VAT into account the Euro price and the $ price would be about the same

Exactly, the German (European) prices include VAT, so you know what you’ll pay in the end. By the way, there is a cheaper version that costs way below 30k (again, including VAT). And then, there are incentives in many European countries, which help make cars more affordable.

It might have to do that he was in Munich during the time of the IAA, the german car exhibition. The Oktoberfest is cancelled for this year.

LOL

It is. But the prices he told are including 19% VAT and, on top, you get 9000,- € incentives in Germany for an EV at this price range. The entry-level version is priced at just shy of 25000,- €. Minus 9000 € incentives and you have it for 16000 € (incl. VAT).

compared to the normal 500 it's much better and the screens are very good compared to premium cars. soundproofing could be better.

US buyers didn't buy the last generation of Fiat 500e, so this one will never see North American roads.

Targeted marketing with the idea of profiting from the environmentally conscious

the Mini runs circles on this crap

@@PaulTC777 mini is also unreliable crap. Like fiat, at leat this fiat is updated and almost double range.

@@PaulTC777 the new 500e is superior to Mini on every level. Mini electric is just conversion of the current model to save money on redesign. 500e has been built from scratch, there is nothing in common with ICE 500. Plus much better range and quality than Mini electric.

It is stellantis now, using similar parts from peugeot and opel evs.

@@rudykillworth6862 Those two for the U.S. not any better.

Maybe (depends on your taste), but the trunk is unusable in convertible version.

Not anymore.

That was the compliance car they solely developed for California. It was just a converted gas-500. The new 500e is built as electric car from the ground up. There is no gas version any more.

Hahah, there was no 500e in 2014. The one sold in US was just normal 500 with ICE converted to electric . Nothing in common with 500e.