BTW Correction: There IS CarPlay/Android Auto in this car!
@_Bran2 ай бұрын
thanks mark
@FatTracksMusic2 ай бұрын
Thank god, that was shocking
@Jushwa2 ай бұрын
lol thank you for issuing this correction, as it’s one of the most commonly requested/sought after features. It would be silly for them not to include it on a 2024 model 🤣
@DenoiseLife2 ай бұрын
Doesnt byd sell cars in USA? They make some good cars for less than 25k usd
@long21819982 ай бұрын
With enough human rights violations, any price is possible.
@matthewfair91952 ай бұрын
wait till this man discovers the Dacia Spring we have in Europe...
@LaunchKaffee2 ай бұрын
It’s bad tho. Like even for Dacia standards. If the Spring was like an electrified Sandero Stepway, it would actually be decent.
@user-sd3ik9rt6d2 ай бұрын
@@LaunchKaffee it's ' an car ', a tool or appliance.
@ChristianMCI2 ай бұрын
It's not really a Dacia, let's be honest, they just copied a Chinese car and slapped Dacia on it.
@damneddude82992 ай бұрын
Plus 5k rebate from gov here in italy its 16k instead of 21k
@LaunchKaffee2 ай бұрын
For many people “an car” is way more than just “a tool or appliance”. Why do you think the BMW X6 is successful? Style, comfort, space, Driving dynamics and more is important to many people
@aathavanmohanathas70892 ай бұрын
I was part of the team that help launch this vehicle. This car does have One Pedal Drive, you can switch the drive mode between Normal, Range and Sherpa. The last two have OPD. Also, the vehicle is equipped with wireless android auto and apple car play or you can connect via USB. Feel free to reach out
@TroubleMitten2 ай бұрын
now a lot of ppl will think it doesn't have those features unless they read this comment smh
@bfvader2 ай бұрын
@@TroubleMitten Car reviews from tech youtubers (MKBHD and especially LTT) are pretty notorious for completely missing or misunderstanding details like this.
@Mesothorax2 ай бұрын
Came here to write this. My girlfriend is driving this car (and loves it). It is a wonderful little city car. Of course it’s not a long range model, but do you really need that? We’re living in Germany, where you don’t have the very long drives on a daily basis and she is getting around for a week without charging. Of course it has some more plastic, but it’s fine, you get the same in the small ICE cars.
@A.X.N2 ай бұрын
Still too expensive for what it is
@handlemonium2 ай бұрын
I believe the upcoming Aptera us going to have OPD too 😁
@thomasdesmoulin1252 ай бұрын
European here. My mum has this car. The lease is costing her 100€ / month and the electricity costs her about 100€ / year. She uses it for daily commute and normal life stuff around town. She only needs to charge it overnight once a week. You can't beat that.
@robertdog92152 ай бұрын
100 / month not real. If price is 30k then it would be EV lease for 25 years. Not real.
@MrVal0uch2 ай бұрын
@@robertdog9215there is a subsidised leasing program in France for electric cars that makes this price possible
@GeezsRapsa2 ай бұрын
@@robertdog9215 Pretty much every EU gov has programs or significant subsidies for the purchase of EVs.
@chriskonte19092 ай бұрын
@@robertdog9215 Yes 100€ a month is a thing even lower like 80 a month can be possible here is how it's done: You walk into a Fiat dealership and order like here a 500 electric. You go for the base model because you wanna safe money, so you get a 23,8 kWh battery with 95hp 190km/118mi range combined 257km/159mi city only. You get as options: -The exterior color Red by (RED) 500€ -The Comfort-Package for 1500€ including: heated exterior mirrors, arm rest up front, heated wiper elements on the front windscreen, 50/50 folding rear seats, heated front seats, a hight ajustable driver seat, 360° "Drone View" reverse camera, and a blind spot assist -And a bigger Mode 2 Charging cable for 250€ So you end up currently at around 27.000€ (because of a special discount Fiat offers you right know, because EV sales dropped in all over Europe) you still have 15 inch steel wheels with hubcaps and halogen headlights, both are in a package that would cost another 1500€ but again it's a mini-compact car so you might not need it. You lease the car for 48 month/ 4 years. The back wants to make 1500€ profit, so the car costs 29.500€. Now here's were it gets interesting, and how leases in general work. You order the car and it comes 5 month later. Your car gets registered on your name and you sign a few papers and pay the destination fee. Then the vehicle documents are gonna get send to the bank, because they pay the 27.000€ for the car. Now let's say the bank calcutes that the car is worth 19.000€ after the 4 years that you used the car, so it's 27.000-19.000=8000 and the 8000€ get devided by 48 because of the lease month you'd end up at 222 a month. That still to much, so the banks just use a final rate. of 3000€ an you'd already end up a 105€ a month. They could also just calcute the car higher or when the lease is over they calcute potential scrates and damages higher than expected. So to lease a car it's usally just interesting as a company to avoid the 19% product taxes.
@IpodAppsEverywhere2 ай бұрын
@@robertdog9215hahaha such an American comment. 😂
@Giovanni1a2 ай бұрын
Remember this is a European car, made for European cities. The cars here are in general smaller than in the US. Parking spaces are narrow and small. And trust me (I'm from the Netherlands). Driving a Tesla Model 3 through Amsterdam is already challenging, let alone in small cities in Italy. So, it's also made this small on purpose. I'm absolutely sure batteries will become cheaper and smaller. The amounts of rare metals in batteries is declining, so they become cheaper as this is the main cost driver.
@logitech48732 ай бұрын
I drove a Tesla model 3 through Amsterdam. It was the dumbest thing I've ever done in that car
@pvic69592 ай бұрын
@@logitech4873 what made it a bad idea?
@Ottobon2 ай бұрын
That and also development cost is probably a huge thing. Yes they have all been out for awhile but it still feels like someone is making it the first time every new model that launches. I don't know exactly what is going on with the BYD everyone is mentioning but if i had to guess besides labor costs being insanely low they just stuck to basics and exactly the things that work, everyone keeps trying to reinvent what a electric car should be before we have even settled on a basic standard (i mean in regards to interface etc, all the little things.) I believe by comparison the BYD is a electric tractor that is comfortable enough, but thats fine, at least they seemed to crack some standard to driving down costs.
@logitech48732 ай бұрын
@@pvic6959 Extremely dense traffic, very difficult to find a parking spot, the most cramped parking garage I've ever experienced with the steepest exit ramp in the world (scraped the underside of the car good).
@artemis832 ай бұрын
@@pvic6959the Model 3 is simply too big for the roads and parking spots in Amsterdam. And I would say Amsterdam is a quite spacious city by Italian standards. Try Rome, Naples or Genoa. I think american drivers have an understandable problem in even wondering why those cars are so small. They may think it is a style choice or a cutting-cost need. But they are designed like that because it's mandatory to be used.
@dwchen12 ай бұрын
The title should be 'Is a $25,000 electric car even possible in the US?' Because outside the US $9,700 electric car that can carry 5 people is already in the market.
@tigerlancer2 ай бұрын
America should just allow gas kei cars. USA cannot make a decent $10k to $25k EV yet. Kei cars are cars with less than 0.66l engine.
@VirtualTech2 ай бұрын
Facts.... Even India has excellent evs in that price
@Tomren442 ай бұрын
@@VirtualTech and don’t have the same quality or reliability
@VirtualTech2 ай бұрын
@@Tomren44 what are you talking about? They are reliable.
@krishmaheshwari80612 ай бұрын
@@VirtualTech how much range...Chinese EVs - like the BYD seagull - have at most 200-210 miles, adjusted for EPA standards. There isn't any car under 25k that can go 300+ miles consistently yet and most of them have poor build quality.
@SebastianLN2 ай бұрын
“There’s no CarPlay, no Android Auto” *pans to show CarPlay button* 💀
@leokins25362 ай бұрын
Marq does zero research for his videos. That's something he could have easily found if he played around in the car infotainment. He spent the entire video saying theres no $25k EVs even though outside of America they are plentiful.
@iambear.65262 ай бұрын
@@leokins2536 Shocker..... He's American.
@Alazen.2 ай бұрын
America = World 🇺🇸
@cooliipie2 ай бұрын
This is why I stopped watching him years ago ...
@DownwithEA12 ай бұрын
@@cooliipie how are you commenting then?
@luofubo2 ай бұрын
one day MKBHD will discovery a world outside of USA
@razvanlex2 ай бұрын
No, he won't.
@onthefence9282 ай бұрын
the US market is where most of his viewers and experience are. foriegn cars are not very attainable in the US market because of import restrictions
@razvanlex2 ай бұрын
@@onthefence928 What do you mean? The majority of cars are foreign in the US. In the top 10 car sales brands there is Ford on 2nd place and Chevrolet on 3rd. The rest are Japanese or Korean. 8th place is Jeep but they are owned by Stellantis Group.
@Bi5muth_2 ай бұрын
@@razvanlex He means that a lot of the vehicles that are cheap that aren't available in the US in the first place due to not being sold here have a 25 year import "ban" on them. The only way to get the ban on one model of vehicle lifted is by spending an exorbitant amount of money, effort, and time to get a single model approved to be imported, including crash testing, emmisions testing, and other safety/environmental testing of the like, and its coming out of the person's wallet that's trying to import it. At least 6 figures for a "cheap" imported car less than 25 years old.. It's dumb
@hihi-ok2rc2 ай бұрын
@razvanlex well it's actually more complicated then that us has alot of car laws and loopholes for those laws for example u can own 25 year old unsafe kei trucks in the US but not their brand new ones because of regulations
@laurapo88412 ай бұрын
It looks like MKBHD has never been in an economic combustion car either
@ulwur2 ай бұрын
His first car was a Tesla model s plad if i recall correctly.
@theowainwright74062 ай бұрын
@ulwur if this is true how out of touch is this guy
@zacharyhenderson29022 ай бұрын
@@theowainwright7406well he's a tech reviewer who lives in a city. He's not out of touch, he just doesn't live where most of us live, and for most of his life he didn't really have to drive that much
@d9dga2 ай бұрын
I feel like this could be the first time that MKBHD has reviewed a "normal" European car that I see most days
@steved2947Ай бұрын
No, it's not a normal version, The Fiat 500X, the larger version of this car, is the actual "normal" European car.
@gracelandtoo6240Ай бұрын
You must not live in Europe bc the regular 500 size is much more common than the 500X.
@lang98722 ай бұрын
You say there is no Apple car play / Android Auto: the Button is clearly visible on the screen...
@robertozamcu35332 ай бұрын
Bro helppp we got this in 2022 here in Italy / Europe. Americans are like yt shorts users sometimes😭😭
@robertozamcu35332 ай бұрын
Yes, I commented two times.
@stoff3r2 ай бұрын
The problem is that you just accept that this is a $32k car while as many others have said, it is really a 20k car or even less in some countries.
@binkjones2 ай бұрын
10k would be a solid price
@TqmmPl2 ай бұрын
@@sillystuff6247 Around Central Europe (SK, CZ) it's starting from 24k EUR and you can get up to 6k Eur from government for EV. So with good combination you can be under 20k usd.
@bingobongo16152 ай бұрын
@@TqmmPlit is now on special sale for 24k in the 23 kWh battery version… The price was 29k€… And this is quite expensive if you apply this to European wages… 32k$ will feel much cheaper to Americans
@mysticx072 ай бұрын
Prices need to be compared to the country cost of living and not directly comparing prices from different countries otherwise it’s biased
@TqmmPl2 ай бұрын
@@bingobongo1615 well that goes without saying. In general I don't get why 500e goes to USA. It's clearly an EU, APJ market product. Very Compact one. Stellantis reverse logic strikes again, and again they will be like "why we don't make sales?" + it starting price in EU countries is from 23k eur. So Again "depends on version"
@henhouseharry61932 ай бұрын
Next Fiat 500e advert: "Feels like my Porsche 911" - Auto Focus
@atirageNS2 ай бұрын
Renault had an ad like that, comparing the Renault 4 to Ferrari.
@oliveelephant2 ай бұрын
@@atirageNS I recall the Citroen 2CV ad comparing it to a Ferrari (a 2CV at 71.5MPH is faster than a Ferrari at 63MPH), Rolls (they both have the same number of wheels) & Porsche (the 2CV has more interior space). Would link pic but YT doesn't like it.
@jorgealfonsodrijas21102 ай бұрын
"... with a little more leg room." Auto Focus
@noa-30532 ай бұрын
there was an old ad in italy (or i heard it) that showed a fiat 500 saying "when i grow, i'll become a porsche" considering both had posterior aspirated engine
@AtheistDD2 ай бұрын
@@oliveelephant porsche and 2cv is interesting both boxer engine but the engines are literally on the most different end of the car.
@Basherqueen2 ай бұрын
Citroen eC3 is coming out right now in EU for about $25,000 and it's a decent small 5-door SUV/Cross Over with 200miles of range. Comfortable, save and fits 4 to 5 people. So question answered. The US Car market is so limited, that's the problem.
@PolYGame2 ай бұрын
"There is no Apple CarPlay nor Android Auto" *Shows us the Apple CarPlay logo*
@_CarlosA2 ай бұрын
Well EVs under $25k are plentiful in other markets...
@Battleneter2 ай бұрын
And still failing to sell as price is not the biggest issues with EV's.
@t650i22 ай бұрын
@@Battleneter Failing? Look at china Wuling EV.
@seowebua2 ай бұрын
He did zero research for this video
@danielgoldstein42412 ай бұрын
Chinas EV prices are heavily subsidized by the government. Not a fair market comparison. It’s why Biden raised tariffs on them
@slevinsleven27752 ай бұрын
For 25k Imma get another nice sedan instead of this kind of cars. No way I'm giving up comfort for electric if the choice is given.
@jeffrey.edgett2 ай бұрын
"There's no CarPlay, no Android auto." while there is clearly a CarPlay logo on the screen while he is showing it. 😂
@mentally.retired2 ай бұрын
I came looking for this comment... what in the world? Even if hes talking about cheap EVs in general not having carplay, this one clearly does...
@hareeshkrishnaa56422 ай бұрын
he pinned a comment regarding that
@nefariou52 ай бұрын
@@hareeshkrishnaa5642 should add text on the screen to correct it though
@pusheenomics2 ай бұрын
Is it really an MKNHD video if It doesn't have basic mistakes?
@silentKeys202 ай бұрын
@@pusheenomicsname me 10 vids where he makes "basic mistakes" with timestamps please.
@icy56192 ай бұрын
MKBHD in this video felt like those ppl in an interview that have no idea about any country outside of USA 😂
@LastofAvari2 ай бұрын
Wait, you're saying there are other countries outside of the US beyond Canada and Mexico?! /S
@tonoc.a.98242 ай бұрын
In Mexico we just got the BYD Dolphin Mini, basically the smallest electric car BYD builds and it’s selling like hot cakes just for that reason: it’s a usable $25k electric car. It’s a 4 door hatchback, sits 4 people comfortably, it’s got a nice design, feels well built with good materials, has all the tech bells & whistles you may want, it’s got a proven drivetrain since BYD is great with its electric vehicles, and over all of that it starts at just over $21k USD with a 186 mile range. For $23k you get 236 miles of range. It’s simply the best electric car for the price range here and it surpasses the Fiat in every spec. Don’t get me wrong, I love that electric Fiat but I do believe it’s overpriced and not as nicely specced as the European version. I don’t know how BYD did such a great job with its car, but it would be amazing if you ever got a chance to test one.
@sarper942 ай бұрын
Only thing proven with BYD is how their batteries combust and catch fire on its own, even when parked.
@garythecyclingnerd62192 ай бұрын
@@sarper94Sure bud, keep telling yourself China bad.
@sarper942 ай бұрын
@@garythecyclingnerd6219 Even in China, people know that BYD vehicles combust on their own. Some underground and multi floor car parks do not even allow BYD vehicles in. Its not about China. For example, MG is better.
@ron9992 ай бұрын
@@garythecyclingnerd6219 He is not wrong.
@Ricklard4782 ай бұрын
@@sarper94 >MG is better oh nononono.....
@BTNBx2 ай бұрын
In Europe you can buy the Citroën ë-C3 for 23.300€ and the battery can do 324km, so yeah, we already have a electric vehicle below the 25k!
@N1ckZ2 ай бұрын
It's a good car, but the new Renault 5 is better
@stepstv2752 ай бұрын
@@N1ckZ See you already got two cars in Europe
@N1ckZ2 ай бұрын
@@stepstv275 I can think of 2 more, that will will be revealed this year. The new Nissan Micra, which will be based on the Renault 5, and the new FIAT Panda which will be based on that Citroën ë-C3, the person above me mentioned.
@andrequeda2 ай бұрын
Funny enough, you can still buy for 10000€ less the combustion engine version with a the triple of range. I mean. I don’t get why. Because of R&D? It’s old tech! It’s just to normalise a price that shouldn’t be normalised. For less range should be cheaper.
@zablonkirera26892 ай бұрын
Except when convert 23 thousand plus euros into dollars, it goes past 25k dollars
@august8222 ай бұрын
Fiat 500 isn't supposed to be a budget car. You're paying for the looks and the fiat 500-brand because it's an iconic car
@Rockyroad3212 ай бұрын
Yeah fiats are iconic
@BehruzbekOtayev2 ай бұрын
What? Fiat is nowhere near iconic.
@hilium67302 ай бұрын
iconic lol
@ubiquit4s2 ай бұрын
the 500 is in all respects an iconic car. Find out about its history
@stoff3r2 ай бұрын
@@BehruzbekOtayev what?
@MF_Henri2 ай бұрын
In the UK, this is the most expensive EV in the segment. Actually maybe the Honda-E is more.
@jrheisler2 ай бұрын
I have a 2013 Fiat 500e. The program then yielded $7500 fed, and $2500 state money for a $24k car. We have 55k miles on it, and it has never had a problem. The tax rebate made the $10k difference.
@mitchib14402 ай бұрын
There are a few things I noticed when watching this. 1) It does have Android Auto and Apple Carplay. 2) It does have 1-pedal driving. Just put it in Range mode. 3) The startup and shutdown jingles are much less creepy in america. In the UK, it's a different one and it's really eerie lol 4) My version of this car has 90 miles of range. And it's more than enough for me. 5) The back seats are tiny, yeah. But I wanna quickly give a shoutout to my Mum, who sat in the back of this car when I did my driving test and she somehow managed. 6) My biggest gripe is that the seats don't go up or down.
@spicesmuggler24522 ай бұрын
RANGE IS 199 MILES HES A LIAR
@spicesmuggler24522 ай бұрын
BACK SEATS CAN BE PUT DOWN FOR MORE TRUNK SPACE. DIFFERENT DRIVE MODES CAN EXTEND RANGE
@frostcorgi44642 ай бұрын
@@spicesmuggler2452 the heck are you yelling about?
@manframed2 ай бұрын
If you spend €3000 more and get the prima version all those problems (seat height adjustment etc) have been solved. Also, the chime can be turned off through the settings. Marques, it's really disappointing how little research you did for this car.
@omriel2 ай бұрын
This should be taken more seriously man. Euro owners rejoice!
@anmol120072 ай бұрын
Man, we have Tata Punch EV in India priced roughly at $15000. 1. Around 300kms (186 miles) of real-life range 2. Android Auto and Apple Car play 3. Different levels of regeneration 4. Good looks 5. Proper 5 seater Base variant comes even cheaper around $13000. Then, there is Tata Tiago which starts at $10000 with no screens, 250kms of range but still a proper 5 seater
@manuapynadath2 ай бұрын
MG Comet EV as well
@UnknownBoss0072 ай бұрын
Tata naxon ev a proper ev with ev platform, all safety feature comes under 25000 as base as well as decent models
@riyallydekhna2 ай бұрын
Nexon ev top model is exact $25,000.
@TEAML3ZAR2 ай бұрын
@@manuapynadathit is the same like this car. It’s not a good car
@sammy_11782 ай бұрын
you cant really compare the US market to the Indian market though
@Sothe52 ай бұрын
China makes plenty of decent affordable EVs (sub 20k) with good range. They don't come to the USA because of tariffs, tensions, etc..
@dylaanowen2 ай бұрын
$25k - Doesn't need full digital displays. Just needs a radio and AC at most. Doesn't need what looked like a digital door unlock. Doesn't need lane keeping assist and things that use some sort of radar system. Could also try just reducing the price given they make more profit than needed. Other companies around the world are able to produce an EV for less than $25k.
@AleOnYouTube2 ай бұрын
Imagine this. You live in Italy, you have a lot of low emissions zones, work in the city centre, small parking spaces, you need a zippy car that is electric and costs less than a Tesla. Now the cheaper options start to make some sense, especially if you don’t do more than 5-20km a day, as it often happens around the EU. It is clearly an economy car, but as far as these cars go, this seems like a solid choice overall. You get some extra features here and there, a decent design, some thought went into all the parts. I’d say it cannot make sense in the USA, that’s for sure.
@etherealicer2 ай бұрын
According to American Driving Survey: 2022, the average American drives 30.1 miles each day. It's not just the Europe, the US too. Considering that roughly 60% of all households in the US have 2 or more cars, having a smaller one is totally a working option (with the slight disadvantage that you have to share the road with enormous trucks).
@Josh_Quillan2 ай бұрын
monthly ticket for the bus/train + car share membership for those occasional 'I need to drive' situations it is, then.
@etherealicer2 ай бұрын
@@Josh_Quillan I personally add in a bicycle. Other than that, probably the most economical and environmentally friendly solution.
@x3merx3mer2 ай бұрын
2:43 Fiat 500 predates Mini, so its actually Mini looking like Fiat.
@AlexMi772 ай бұрын
Yep. Probably didn’t look the books for this one.
@tmac0311950910 күн бұрын
This car can be had in Europe for about 20K euros (sometimes even less) with low mileage at 1-2 years old. IMO that's a good deal.
@AManWhoWasntThere2 ай бұрын
My mom has this electric fiat 500. It's perfect for a city like Berlin. It's not for long road trips. Just daily city commutes & grocery shopping
@LarryGarfieldCrell2 ай бұрын
1.That seems like a perfectly reasonable 2nd car for a family. Almost no one needs 2 Ioniqs or Blazer EVs. 2. In most urban areas, 90%+ of daily commute is under 100 miles. If you have reliable home charging or a charging network, a 100 mile range second car *is fine*. Americans (and US automakers) are obsessed with a 300 mph range car because that's what they're used to for a gas car, not because it's actually useful or applicable. 3. China makes EVs they can sell for $15k. The US automakers are trying to get them banned, because they cannot compete. Yes, it's possible. Just not from US automakers.
@antontkach2 ай бұрын
If I live in a city, how can I charge my car? Drop an extension cord from my balcony to trickle charge?
@afonsoabreu51442 ай бұрын
@@antontkach If you live in the city, aint no way you are able to have your car outsite a garage
@antontkach2 ай бұрын
@@afonsoabreu5144 my city usually has designated car parking spaces ranging from 1 per floor to 1 per flat depending on when it was built (soviet planning 1980 style vs modern 2018). I could realistically just drop an extension cable from my 4th floor and somewhat conceal it for not to damage the guidelines on aesthetics, but there are 90 flats per 9 storey building and it's wrong to expect everyone to be doing this Parking spaces from soviet era kinda makes me wish that I was living in the usa concrete parking hell, because there's around 6 cars per 10 people. Being a son in a family of 3, we already had a problem having 2 cars in family. Then I moved out to the outskirts of the city where pensioners live for cheaper housing and more car parking. I literally can't own a car, because there's nowhere to park in 0.5 mile/0.8 km radius and it's easier to just walk the same distances to a bus stop or extra 200 meters to another one. BUT I REALLY WANT A SMOL URBAN EV Prius 2023 costs 48k eur base model, cause tarifs, if I would like to visit another city. Big sad Speaking from Estonia
@goostador2 ай бұрын
@@antontkach I was walking around in London and saw the street light poles having an outlet for electric cars. Maybe I was in a fancy neighborhood, but thought "what a great idea".
@LemironStarling2 ай бұрын
Agree with your points, coming from a 500 Abarth owner of 11yrs. Also as many people I see here in Texas buying golf carts and side by sides to go to the Dollar store or the liquor store. However they wouldn't consider a small EV such as the 500 next to their larger vehicles, it's a shame for all the hate on small, low range vehicles(in the US)
@AtticusThings2 ай бұрын
The Bolt was 26,700 with 260 miles of range. Seems weird that he'd forgotten that.
@baronvonjo19292 ай бұрын
Still expensive for a objectively ugly strange design with low range.
@hapcot2 ай бұрын
It doesn't have over 300 miles of range, that was one of the parameters he literally started with
@slevinsleven27752 ай бұрын
it's also fkn ugly.
@linusmlgtips21232 ай бұрын
He literally mentioned the bolt?
@AtticusThings2 ай бұрын
@@baronvonjo1929 Its not low range. It's the same range as an entry level model 3.
@andreas117352 ай бұрын
It's not only possible but inevitable. Electric cars cost nothing compared to an ICE car.
@gabry96colo2 ай бұрын
1: remove infotainment screen , you will use a phone holder , an app and a bluetooth connection/Cable. 2: no LED's, all classic headlights 3: no alloy wheels, steel and plastic wheel covers 4: remove as many painted parts as possible: bare plastic on side mirrors, bumpers ecc. 5: reduce electronic parts: doors will open mechanically with a handle instead of a door popper, prioritize good visibility instead of rear view cameras and parking sensors, it's a small car anyway and with no paint on bumpers there's nothing to scratch.
@moonpie210122 ай бұрын
The space and design are mostly because of the traditional Fiat 500 which has been made for decades. This is just an electric version of an existing car, and I guess not designing from scratch will change how people view it. Also, the no mirror on drivers side is a safety thing I think, maybe not so common in America!
@Fanatic172 ай бұрын
I love in Europe my car has the driver side only mirror. The 500e is developed on a electric platform so no it’s not the 2010s 500
@TheTapMusic2 ай бұрын
There are quite a few US cars that don't have a driver side flip down mirror, not sure why Marques pointed that out as strange
@fatalfallacy2 ай бұрын
The 500e is not just an electric version of the 500. Different platform, way more space, longer, wider, different wheelbase.
@ssjtalla232 ай бұрын
@@fatalfallacy it is just an electric version of the same design language. It probably had to be developed again and used different platform because of batteries, but it is basically the same car design.
@johnsalamii2 ай бұрын
it may be a common thing in fiats. my dad's bravo doesn't have a mirror on the driver side either
@kevting45122 ай бұрын
I like how he just casually ignores the rest of the global market where EVs under $25k are not just possible but is the reality for most market.
@cooliipie2 ай бұрын
This 😂
@papaspooks85312 ай бұрын
is that after government subsidies or just normal MSRP?
@ActuallyGoose2 ай бұрын
Even in a country like Australia that potentially has the worst adoption of EV's, 25k is becoming a very close reality. $25K USD is about $38K AUD and there's the BYD Dolphin, MG4/ZS EV, GWM Ora that all come in between around the $35k mark and are basically this but better. Honestly china is killing it with EV's lately
@Bob-jn8jt2 ай бұрын
@@papaspooks8531 Normal MSRP. The world is bigger than the US. There are a lot of car brands out there.
@papaspooks85312 ай бұрын
@@Bob-jn8jt sure, but why so much cheaper? is it like that new toyota truck where it can't be sold in the states due to safety regulations or what?
@ShOcKtHeSyStEm5272 ай бұрын
"How can you make THIS car 25k?" Uhhh how about just lower the price? Corporate greed? Stellantis made over 20 billion last year which was "record profits" according to macrotrends, And that includes a 6 week UAW strike where their production was almost completely halted.
@optionswizard10 күн бұрын
In India, tata recently launched the Tata curvv at 25,000$ which has a range of 250 miles , not bad considering it is a premium car with many features and great design
@nestor12082 ай бұрын
$25k 10 years ago was equivalent to $33k now. So did we kinda get there already?
@Markoboy992 ай бұрын
Good point
@AutoFocus2 ай бұрын
I guess that's basically where I landed hah. 25K is a difference price at different moments in time
@Jehayland2 ай бұрын
That’s actually an excellent point. I think the problem is that, strictly speaking, inflation tracks the general buying power of the American dollar and not the buying power of the average consumer. Perhaps the currency itself is inflated but the average money folks have to spend on a vehicle has not kept up with inflation. (Don’t know whether that’s true or not though)
@MobilAvenue_2 ай бұрын
It does have one peddle driving
@stevenichols46392 ай бұрын
That’s exactly the point I was gonna make 25,000 was the price point 10 years ago. Standard inflation makes that 33000. so we got there but I don’t think this is the car that’s gonna make them sell yet
@hardwired22 ай бұрын
4:36 “there’s no CarPlay, there’s no Android Auto “ The screen: 👁️👄👁️
@Matthew-dp3hf2 ай бұрын
I've asked myself the same question and did the research before. So I'd like to share. The margins for US cars are very high. US automakers would rather spend time and energy making trucks and SUVs that will make more money than smaller more efficient EVs. Also, not making EVs, or making extremely expensive EVs that are large and luxurious, offsets the R&D required as opposed to making more big ICE vehicles. They're going to keep doing it this way unless something radically changes in the market, or they're forced to by a regulatory body like the EPA. That's the bottom line. It's why Chevy discontinued the bolt shortly after it got its first update, and why Tesla killed off the entry level model 3 just months after it's release. The industry generates greater net profits from large ICE and large luxury electric vehicles, so willingly taking less profit with greater engineering costs to manufacture smaller electric vehicles won't happen without that intervention. It's infuriating but that's the way greed and publicly traded companies work.
@Robot404_Ай бұрын
This is the $25k car you talked about a decade ago. Adjusted for inflation, $25k is $32,954 today.
@Hitchy252 ай бұрын
Stellantis builds the Fiat 500, which is the shape it is for iconic/historic reasons - the tiny back seat has more to do with the car's heritage than the price point. Stellantis is also building the Citroen eC3 in Europe, just one of many EVs they build there, which has more range and is larger with a much more useable rear seat - and that costs
@hazaelvega43662 ай бұрын
First ever time I feel like MKBHD focused so much on topic, he forgot to accurately review the product.
@cooliipie2 ай бұрын
First time?
@rubidot2 ай бұрын
This video was about the topic, not a review of the product. I expect he'll have another video focused on this Fiat 500.
@Dylanbforthree2 ай бұрын
This is why we subscribe to marques, videos like this. Its context in the EV market is what makes it interesting
@hazaelvega43662 ай бұрын
@@Dylanbforthree seeing it from that perspective, it makes sense!
@UxJoy2 ай бұрын
The bigger problem manufacturers face now: - Lesser moving parts = lesser money earned during servicing or replacement. Frequency of servicing will go down as well. - This add pressure to the margin of the car specially if you rely on dealerships to distribute your product. - Resale value will heavily depend on quality of the battery at time of sale.
@maxkick76562 ай бұрын
Tbh the Fiat 500 is ALWAYS overpriced. This has never been different. Not a good example you picked…
@AlexEMF2 ай бұрын
Yes, absolutely. The Chinese are already making ones, but the US government is charging a ridiculous import taxes that makes the price significantly higher than it is in China.
@edfhobbies5562 ай бұрын
BYD can sell Seagull with tariff and dealer mark up and still be under 25k in US, BYD wont invest in dealerships or US road certification for some reason.
@carsonj40312 ай бұрын
the issue with opening the floodgates to cheap chinese EVs is it really lowers the quality floor and would probably start a race to the bottom in terms of quality (and safety). Plus all the geo political nonsense of course and not to mention the potential american jobs that could be lost.
@steak55992 ай бұрын
@@edfhobbies556 Have you actually see the Seagull? That thing only has 75 horsepower Motor and built like a Geo Metro. We had a lot of Gasoline Cars for low price back then and not many people bought it. US Car shoppers simply have a different mindset from EU and Asia.
@waynerussell64012 ай бұрын
BYD SEAL basic is $20k+ in China and twice that in Europe. Only one China export to SE Asia and Latin America scrapes in at $15 base - Geely Emgrand GSe - a converted ICE compact.
@ludicrousaf76592 ай бұрын
@@carsonj4031 if you have seen even one Chinese EV that's at the price range of $25000 you wouldn't say "they lower the quality floor" when compared to the fiat in the video
@philipptielmann2 ай бұрын
the 500 is not designed to reduce cost. it’s a small live style car. in europe it’s an icon and a favorite on cities.
@bytejourneycodes2 ай бұрын
That's why I feel Toyota have been right all along. To scale to the same levels as ICE currently, EVs are just too impractical for EVERYONE. If you lucky enough and you have a house with a charger then EVs will work, but that number of people are getting smaller and smaller. So, hybrids with small turbo charged ICE engines and 100km+ electric range is in my opinion the way to go.
@BrianFrichette2 ай бұрын
The question of whether we ever get a $25k electric car is the wrong question. When it was posed, and when it continues to be posed, the question meant, "are we going to ever get a fully featured electric car that the most budget-conscious can afford?" If inflation changes what "the most budget-conscious" can afford from $25k to $50k, it's literally irrelevant. It has the same relevance as if someone from 1900 asked whether we'd ever be able to buy cars for under $1k.
@alexandregeracao63452 ай бұрын
In Europe we do have the Dacia Spring that starts at 16900€ (around $18k) with 140 miles of range. The thing is, it is very cheap inside, and very basic features (base version doesnt even have a radio). But I do believe that a good $25k eletric car is more than possible with time.
@great-one03892 ай бұрын
Also are byds more expensive in Europe than in China?
@diegoiarossini61962 ай бұрын
It's true, but the model that starts at that price also has a speed limit of 120 km/h. If I'm not mistaken, the Spring, in general, is a Chinese kit car that Dacia customizes. If surcharges on Chinese cars are implemented, its price will rise as well.
@alexandregeracao63452 ай бұрын
@@great-one0389Yeah, and they dont have all the models on sale in every country. In my country the cheapest eletric BYD is the Dolphin which starts at 30k€
@alexandregeracao63452 ай бұрын
@Rivr23Yeah most likelly, still, it would probably be under those $25k
@louisgoniva25042 ай бұрын
The new Citroën ë-C3 is $25k and has 200 miles of range. And is pretty nice inside as well. Go watch some videos on it I really think we do have a nice $25k EV already
@AlmightyPyro2 ай бұрын
I don't care about the cheap feel of interior if I know I'm buying a cheap EV. I just want to have an EV that I can actually afford that has more than 150 miles of range at least and charge fast to counter the lower range. I don't care about wireless charging phone or sweet infotainment graphics or none of that. I just want a car with an electric motor and at least 150 miles of range, so I got an used Nissan Leaf 2023 for $17k with 15k miles on it and I love it. I call it the boring electric car which is great.
@Markoboy992 ай бұрын
Thats a good option, even more so now that there are ChaDeMo -> CCS adapters.
@olivertessier73062 ай бұрын
I would recommend an old Tesla model S, I've seen some go for like 20k in really good shape. But of course might not be what you're looking for.
@etbadaboum2 ай бұрын
With an entry-level e-C3 you don't even have a central screen but you plug in your smartphone with a dedicated app, reduces cost
@michalandrejmolnar37152 ай бұрын
The charging will definitely accelerate in the future. Up to 150 miles charged in 10 minutes
@Markoboy992 ай бұрын
@@etbadaboum The 500e actually has a version of it too that has no screen at all and only a smartphone holder. Theres also a version with smaller screen than showed on this video
@manuel05782 ай бұрын
Dude hasn’t even tried out the drive modes. When you switch to Range mode you get one pedal driving with full stop. 🤦🏼♂️ And the Uconnect 5 system is Android automotive based without GAS.
@hibob84125 күн бұрын
People who are shopping cars in the $25k range (myself included) generally buy used anyway. I just bought a used Model 3 for $24k and have no complaints at all.
@BirkAnders2 ай бұрын
I own the Fiat 500e convertible in Germany and absolutely love it! My wife has her Model 3 and I came from a Model Y. It's perfect for the city. Fits in every parking space and basically turns on a dime! I also have the model with the bigger 42kwh battery and get a realistic range of 185 miles (300km).
@strule2 ай бұрын
"no EV under 25k" BYD Seagull: am I a joke to you?
@bonganipeter94332 ай бұрын
Marquees is too much focused on the American Market of Evs, or he knows and deliberately downplays it.
@mitchib14402 ай бұрын
Just wait a week until you can get a Fisker Ocean for less than 1k lol
@mikexia77112 ай бұрын
true@@bonganipeter9433
@AndrewTSq2 ай бұрын
BYD are cheap in China, and very expensive in Europe. BYD Atto 3 is higher priced than a Tesla Model Y for example.
@pretol27302 ай бұрын
yes, Chinese 'economics' of govt subsidies to support trash capitalism at the cost of poverty-ridden Chinese population is A JOKE.
@manuel05782 ай бұрын
It’s a great car for European cities and even some roadtrips. But the distances you travel in the US are just so much bigger.
@sid123421313 сағат бұрын
There's a car in my country that has a range of 155 miles approx with 360 degree camera and 2 displays. Selling for under 19100 dollars.
@DarrylRadcliffe2 ай бұрын
MKBHD does not know about stuff outside of the US. With the Nothing Phone review he laughed at how ‘colour’ is spelt.
@Josh_Quillan2 ай бұрын
It's sad, isn't it? He's a very likeable guy, I enjoy his videos but I wish he'd consider sometimes that most of the world isn't in the USA, and that most of the world finds the USA weird - but then he's hardly the only youtuber with this problem.
@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue2 ай бұрын
Years ago I used to like his videos as he did research and gave a balanced view. Now it is just cheap low effort clickbait. This video is terrible.
@drunkenhobo80202 ай бұрын
@@Josh_QuillanI'd just like if he included the metric values for things like weight. I have not even the slightest clue what 3300 lbs is.
@papaspooks85312 ай бұрын
Go watch some non-American youtuber instead then. Probably won't though, since you're all hopelessly addicted to our sweet, sweet cultural exports. Americans invented the internet you're reading this on and you're complaining that we think the way you spell "color" is dumb? Be grateful
@titanproductions36282 ай бұрын
@@drunkenhobo8020 bro if you're outside the U.S there's no need to watch a U.S KZfaqr making videos for U.S viewers, plus no one uses the dumb metric system.
@back2lay2 ай бұрын
The range makes sense for what this car is made for. It's a city car made for short trips to work, taking the sprogs to school and so forth.
@andrewecclestone3362Күн бұрын
The answer is yes, it is possible, as the Fiat 500e now costs US$21,500 here in New Zealand.
@marcoanghinetti79382 ай бұрын
The one mirror just for the passenger is kinda an italian thing i think, I'm italian and I noticed that most if not all fiat cars have only the passenger side mirror, is probably to reduce the chances that the driver looks at him self instead of the road. My first VW i had both and I was like... Wow, what do I do with this?
@rantlyy2 ай бұрын
It exists in China, but in America? Who knows
@clebbington2 ай бұрын
we can't get it cheaply in the US due to tariffs
@Justin1_one2 ай бұрын
@@clebbington Dont the Chinese ones have an big issue with catching fire though?
@Random_dud312 ай бұрын
@@clebbingtonBut that's true for any car
@HiyasuJ2 ай бұрын
@@Justin1_one we will never know
@senti21752 ай бұрын
@@Justin1_one Chinese EVs are the most sold in Europe. And Europe has far striker rules for safety than US
@himanshug.35172 ай бұрын
We have $12000 EV in India with 420km range.. And China is on some next level with EVs.
@4literv62 ай бұрын
Yeah and adjusted for average income and cost of living that ain't sh*t smdh! You fools bleating about cheap Chinese and Indian evs crack me the hell up. An average Indian makes what 6-8k a year right? Oh yeah a 12k ev is sooooooooo affordable there! Example tesla China ft worker makes 13-15k and that's about 20% above industry average. Tesla m3 costs 33k over there. Anything affordable for that poor sap is a 10k or under ev k car that you'll be squished like a bug in a collision! Oh yeah and Shanghai per capita is just as expensive as N.Y. is to live in. But muh 10k ev mannnnnn.👍🏻😂 U.S. ft tesla line employee makes 53-55k and the m3 base is 38k without any ev incentives here. Gee George one of these isn't like the other! 🤔
@danielabehrens12 ай бұрын
Name pls
@DerrickBest2 ай бұрын
@@danielabehrens1BYD seagull and there's others. Once you go down that rabbit hole of how cheap they are in China you'll get mad at the ridiculous 100% tariffs. Chinese EVs makers to take note of. BYD, Geely, Xpeng, NIO, Xiaomi, and Chery. There's others but I'll stop there.
@kevilleb2 ай бұрын
I want Gogoro's battery swap stations they have for scooters in Taiwan.
@pcproffy2 ай бұрын
@@kevilleb Battery swap has been my thinking for a decade. Have standardized batteries that can be auto swapped in 5 minutes then range becomes a non issue.
@rpmgames605820 күн бұрын
With Samsung's recently announced Solid State Batteries, I am hopeful that the $25k (or maybe even $20k) quality EV may soon be a reality.
@shivanshsharma49162 ай бұрын
in India we got TATA NEXON ev (its a small suv) with 220 miles of range at $18k
@alexandregeracao63452 ай бұрын
At 4:35 you say there is no CarPlay as you show the CarPlay logo on the middle screen?
@ItsDadoza2 ай бұрын
It has CarPlay and it looks great on it too.
@PedroHenriquePS000002 ай бұрын
yea wtf these reviewers cant be trusted... i only trust doug demuro
@anonimous__user2 ай бұрын
CarPlay is only available in Europe
@calebharris41272 ай бұрын
@@PedroHenriquePS00000bruh do you and 3 other ppl not know if MKBHD
@PedroHenriquePS000002 ай бұрын
@@calebharris4127 he is super credible doing phones stuff, CLEARLY not cars...
@pratirathchoudhury27482 ай бұрын
Meanwhile India already has a full-size family EV Hatch under $10K (8 lakh Rupees). Tata Tiago ev.
@icy10072 ай бұрын
They don't actually.
@vasu_00012 ай бұрын
@@icy1007wdym
@SushanthSomayaji2 ай бұрын
It's 1200000 INR i.e. 14500 USD, 125 miles of real world range. Maybe you put 10000 USD of more battery and you can get more than 200 miles of range and a 4 door hatchback with decent safety for less than 25000 USD.
@vasu_00012 ай бұрын
@@SushanthSomayaji Starts at 8 lakh
@icy10072 ай бұрын
@@vasu_0001to bring it up to code for safety and other required parts in the U.S., they’d have to double or triple the price at least and that is before you talk about increasing the abysmal range it has. It’s also full of super low quality materials
@VivicaGsy2 ай бұрын
People just need to realise that $25,000 today is basically $19,000 from 10 years ago.
@SvenMieke2 ай бұрын
Bro the screen LITERALLY SAID CAR PLAY - we have one of these at home. It has car play. Don’t get fooled.
@DemonoIogic2 ай бұрын
This annoyed me too lol
@eden4122 ай бұрын
Check the Renault R5, it's a 25K electric car even though i don't think it will be sold in the US
@BBingo-v5i2 ай бұрын
Awesome EV. I am looking forward to the Volkswagen ID.2 and Cupra Raval tho, because they have slightly more range and are a bit more spacious
@Pengu694202 ай бұрын
Didn't know abut that one, it looks so cool tho!
@TheFPSPower2 ай бұрын
Probably our best hope for a 25k car tbh but still it's 300km /180miles range for base model, for the 400km range version it will be way more expensive I bet.
@BBingo-v5i2 ай бұрын
@@TheFPSPower the 400km WLTP range version was revealed with a base price of 33k just a few days ago. I think with all options checked you can probably reach into the 36k price bracket. The Volkswagen ID.2 will start at 25k, but the big battery version will probably cost the same as the Renault 5 with the bigger battery. The Cupra Raval will start at 30k but will also offer better specs for the base version. The Renault R5 is awesome but a bit too expensive for what it offers. It is a lifestyle EV like the Mini Cooper EV
@TheFPSPower2 ай бұрын
@@BBingo-v5i yeah so if you want a tiny bit more range you pay +8k€... This is what annoys me, these promises always deliver a base trim that nobody wants to upsell the actually good trim by a huge margin. The E-C3 was the same shit, base trim doesn't even have a radio.
@grzegorzkapica79302 ай бұрын
If you have urban planning like in the US, you are screwed; no public transport, huge distances, car dependent cities. In Europe you often do not need a car to live well.
@garythecyclingnerd62192 ай бұрын
As an American, many metro areas are straight up unsustainable. The western US is the worst offender. The houses don’t pay enough tax to pay for their infrastructure needed. Everything is spread way too far apart. Like you unironically have to get onto an interstate and drive 20-30 miles at 80mph+ if you’re a Denver area commuter. The amount of pavement, wire, pipe, sewer, lawn, and other infrastructure it takes to sustain this is not feasible long term and very expensive. While US civil engineering is slowly leaving the 60s, making reasonable cities is still illegal in many states
@markbaum852 ай бұрын
Some context for US friends: the fiat 500 is an automotive icon in europe. As such, it’s not marketed to be a “value” car, but rather a small posh vehicle (same as the Mini). In light of that it’s not the right car to check what the market can offer for entry level EVs. The 500 indeed is a small (and in my opinion pretty cool) EV designed for people living in cities, where the disadvantage of limited rear seats space is far outweighed but the easiness of parking it
@ThiagoVelloso2 ай бұрын
BYD is playing on another level regarding cheap evs.
@manframed2 ай бұрын
You really missed the point of this car. Yes, it is expensive for what it offers ON PAPER, BUT as an owner of it for about 6 months in a Athens, Greece which has a huge traffic/congestion daily problem, I can assure you it is the absolute perfect dense city car. Also if you lease it rather than buy it, the cost that is it's only downside is not such an issue any more. Indicatively, I lease it from Avis for 3 years for €9/day and with all the hassle-free benefits that leasing offers (free service, pick up and delivery, insurance, etc). This car has that something special that cannot be translated on paper. It has character and when you drive, it you feel it daily. It puts a smile on your face. As a reviewer you should have picked up on that.
@humphreychiu17672 ай бұрын
The rear seats are criminally small though. If they still make it, the BMW i3, VW/Seat/Skoda eUp are far better city EV than the 500e if you ever need to sit more than 2 people.
@caleidoo2 ай бұрын
@@humphreychiu1767 90% of the people sit alone in their car and only take short trips. A small city car is objectively less ridiculous than a pickup truck or SUV on many levels. Why buy a car that can seat 7 people and you sit alone 90% of the time? I need the space for my gear, so I have a bigger boot. But not more than I need.
@mexibobor2 ай бұрын
and when I sat in it, I actually liked the interior. If i started touching everywhere maybe I would feel the "cheapness", but just sitting in it, I really liked it and it didnt feel cheap at all
@bosstowndynamics54882 ай бұрын
I think it's actually you who missed the point of this review. City cars are great but they're supposed to be really cheap, and in the US the electric 500 is not cheap - the main point here is that if even the Fiat can't get below 30k how on earth is someone going to get a sub 25k EV on the road there when there's not much left to cut without starting to compromise actual core parts of the car?
@paulanergraz2 ай бұрын
@@humphreychiu1767 i was sitting in the back of the petrol version and it's okay and I'm 194cm and 120kg
@Brentonlangaigne_932 ай бұрын
Has this guy not heard of the BYD Seagull, BYD Dolphin, Geely Galaxy e8, Wuling mini, and multitudes of other high end, luxury, performance evs that start under $25k?
@jamesengland74612 ай бұрын
Not sold in US.
@BeefIngot2 ай бұрын
The US banned them because theyd compete with the trash anti pedestrian road going monster trucks they make.
@Lord_Reset2 ай бұрын
Not available in the United States, so unfortunately doesn't apply. It's not even necessarily a lack of knowledge it's a lack of relevance.
@JOlivier20112 ай бұрын
@@Lord_Reset But he points at batteries and cost..... Which clearly isn't the case. It's protectionism and regulation.....which may be defensible, idk , but that is the reason.
@LifeAfterLosing2 ай бұрын
The Geely Galaxy is amazing. That thing for 30 grand in the states would blow everyone away. Which is why they don’t want it here.
@leonardkessinger55748 күн бұрын
$25k back then is probably close to where this car is at
@AkarshitThakur-bv8ft2 ай бұрын
In India we have 'The Tata Tigor EV' for around 10k dollars, "Tata Tiago EV" for 10k dollars, "Mahindra Xuv 400 EV" for 15k dollars, Tata Nexon EV for 15k dollars again, and the cheapest EV we have is "mg comet ev" for 7k dollar.
@prathamchhabra48332 ай бұрын
The range is way to less for us market as the distances between places are huge in us .
@nirooprbhat2 ай бұрын
@@prathamchhabra4833 Agree but if you can make a reliable Ev for 15k, you can certainly make an 'increased range' version for another 6-8K. Its just that the Indian economics demands a 15K vehicle even with lesser range.
@blablabla69752 ай бұрын
@@prathamchhabra4833 for those everyday cross state road trips
@quantino88322 ай бұрын
Also all these cars come with Andriod Auto and Apple CarPlay
@ryanj79702 ай бұрын
The functionality of the dash is better than cars 3x the price. Cutting costs with the touch screens and having more buttons is the way more vehicles should go.
@henrikbundt92252 ай бұрын
Most brands actually used to put more stuff in the touchscreen because they want to cut costs for the physical buttons, not the other way around. If you want to make a 500e 2k dollars cheaper, cut the buttons and the charging pad.
@Josh_Quillan2 ай бұрын
@@henrikbundt9225 This excuse never made sense to me. Switches cost pennies, they need no development and their existing designers can throw one together in hours, probably from existing components. Doing it in software means you have to hire programmers and software designers and QC/testers to build an entire OS for the car and all the systems it has to work with, essentially becoming software companies, jobs they need whole new departments, let alone new staff for. There is no way on earth it is cheaper to leave out a dial or two and a handful of buttons for climate control versus building a software interface and firmware for automation that does this, only worse.
@NeuerAlias47112 ай бұрын
Can we please also acknowledge how incredibly pretty this car is? It is built for European cities, and it does this job perfectly.
@danzivkovic96102 ай бұрын
Marques, you're reflecting the American market's obsession with range. Most people don't go on long road trips. And people who do, tend to have more than one car, or can rent a car. You don't need to own a road trip car. Or a camping trailer. Or a sail boat. Or a jet ski. Or any of those other toys that clutter the driveways and yards of American suburbs. Those things can be rented for the 2-3 days a year when you might actually need them. The obsession with 300-400 miles of range is making cars needlessly heavy and expensive. We're hauling around these huge, heavy, expensive batteries on our 10-20 mile commutes. That's like walking around with 1-gallon jugs of water just in case we get stranded in the dessert overnight. Oh, wait...
@hondakorn2 ай бұрын
I would really love to see his take on China EVs we cannot get here.
@FlexRogers2 ай бұрын
Puzzled as to why he didn’t address that here since it seems like it’s the elephant in the room
@jkid48552 ай бұрын
He doesn’t acknowledge them as that would offend his dear friend Elon and we know how faithful Markass is to Musk.
@therealmax692 ай бұрын
You should get your hands on a Dacia Spring. That box with a battery of a car starts at like the equivalent of 10k usd
@Manaleyjr2 ай бұрын
They don't have it in the USA
@Evan_gg3452 ай бұрын
The BYD seagull from china is $10,000 and has a range as high as 252 miles and its actually well built (base battery is 180, still relatively good). Even with the new tarrifs it would be $17,000 if it was ever sold In the u.s. So yeah, at sub $25,000 car is possible it just has to be built in china where the government subsidizes them.
@alexchrollo2 ай бұрын
It’s won’t pass US safety regs
@Th3oTh3o2 ай бұрын
Dacia Spring is what you get for $25 000 in Europe. Tiny car with no equipment, slow charging, extremely low range, low comfort, cheap looking from the outside and inside... one must ask, who is that car actually for.
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@Markoboy992 ай бұрын
I actually own one here in Finland, so this comment is from a perspective of a European version of the 500e: Price is it's downfall surely. I bought mine as used, a year old 12 000km (7500mi) on the odo and it cost 25 900€ a year ago, which is just fine for what it is. But as a new one this is just too expensive. Like 36k€ with all the options. - I have wireless Carplay and I use it daily - There is one pedal driving if you change the drive mode from Normal to Range, with the drive mode selector on the middle console in the center between the seats. - Theres actually a 25k€ version of this car in Europe, with a 24kWh battery. But thats truly gotta be a city car. Also theres a Dacia Spring in Europe thats a lot cheaper and maybe the closest usable car for that 25k price is the MG4? It's a 27-28k€ car and has a 51kWh battery.
@alexandruilea9152 ай бұрын
MG4 is definitely the sweet spot
@elzafir8 күн бұрын
The MG4 EV is like $27,000 in my country. Smaller EVs need to be half that for the majority of people would consider switching from cheap $12,000 Toyotas and Daihatsus.
@GarryChenYT3 күн бұрын
In Asia you could used EV with 300KM+ range with under 20K KM on the clock for 12-15K. Still under warranty for another 5 years.
@IAmTheSwarley2 ай бұрын
FINALLY! A couple of things that you missed (as an owner of one for two years): 1. It does support Wireless CarPlay and WIRED Android Auto, i’m using CarPlay daily and works perfectly 2. It has one pedal driving, the knob ti the left of the volume wheel is there to change driving mods. 3. It has a cabriolet version which made it the only electric cabriolet for a while Other than that this car is made for the city or short-ish commutes but I’ve managed to drive very ling trips with stops on the way and been living with jt for 2+ years and been loving it (as a ayoung person that needs to find parking in the city and not buy a very expensive car and drive a lot so not pay a lot for gas) Anyhow thanks for this review! Keep up the very good and engaging videos :D
@jcaesar198712 ай бұрын
1:10 In case anyone is wondering, he's checking around for geese.
@BlackOpsPostman2 ай бұрын
Give an American a European city car and watch as he completely misses the point.
@h_07222 ай бұрын
hot take: there needs to be a company "IS IS POSSIBLE" that just makes absurd things at cheap prices to just show that it is possible
@bojanmrdja28032 ай бұрын
The fact that there is no electric car for 25,000 dollars in America does not mean that there are none in the rest of the planet, which is, after all, much bigger than tiny America. The Dacia Spring costs around $23,000 and has similar specs to the Fiat 500i.
@ArthurB20232 ай бұрын
i may be biased (because i own a normal fiat 500) but out of all the electric cars out there this is probably my favourite...... its design just gets me
@googlenutzer87682 ай бұрын
Oh it's so much fun to drive! And it feeld much more solid than any previous Fiat 500! You should testdrive it. It's also almost overpowered! :D
@lizz20242 ай бұрын
I miss my Fiat.
@geoffbutler102 ай бұрын
Love my OG 500e. Perfect city car. 10 year old battery and still gets decent range. I see many in the PNW. They all seem to have migrated north from California. Can be had for under $10k.
@ArthurB20232 ай бұрын
Unfortunately my next car will be a 4x4 work horse to get things done for work
@feanaaro86522 ай бұрын
25k when we started talking about a cheap electric car would be more than 30k today with inflation... plus the fiat 500 is priced liked a "cool" car (much like the Mini), not like a basic cheap car. It's small, but is not intended to be a basic cost-effective car.
@Otto-W9 сағат бұрын
I might be in the minority but i dislike the large screens and many of the "features people are supposedly asking for." Buttons can be felt and uses without looking and they aren't filled with lights that ruin your night vision. These days people drive around with multiple screens turned way too bright and use their high beams to compensate for their eyes being adjusted to rhe light. This is a safety concern for other motorist.
@MAC-vi7fy2 ай бұрын
The chinese, vietnamese and Indians are all make 10k RVs with 300 mile range.
@2wo2wo3hree_72 ай бұрын
GDP per capita in Europe is 10 to 50 times that of India and 4 times that of China on average...
@MAC-vi7fy2 ай бұрын
@@2wo2wo3hree_7 ikr thats why iphones are made in asia not in america. Otherwise you will be buying a 10,000USD iphone. Same goes for electric cars as well.