A Reference Guide to M1 Carbines... What to Look For, Is it WW2?

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The M1 Carbine is very popular, mainly because of it's history and ease of use. It's a practical, lightweight, carbine that fires the .30 carbine. Over 6 million were produced during World War Two and many more commercial ones were made after and still today. So if you saw one on a shelf, how would you know if it is a true WW2 era M1 Carbine? This video guide shows you the most simple ways to identify a true U.S. Military Issue Carbine.
Manufacturers to Look for:
Inland
Underwood
Winchester
Saginaw
IBM
Quality Hardware
National Postal Meter
Standard Product
Rock-Ola
Irwin Pederson
Edit:
Aside from the primary manufacturers in this video, there were also hundreds of subcontractors that made M1 Carbine parts for the primary manufacturers. The parts, including receivers, were marked with a letter code. for example, a receiver may say:
I.B.M. CORP
12345678
AO
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Chapters
Intro 0:00
Look at The Receiver near the Barrel 0:45
Look at the top of the barrel 1:08
Most Importantly look at the Receiver by the Rear sight 1:30
WW2 M1 Carbine Manufacturers 2:08
Intermission 3:41
Types of Stocks 3:49
Cartouches 4:29
M1A1 Paratrooper 5:01
Early Parts 5:30
Import Marks 6:32
Outro 7:33
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@waynecoulter6761 11 күн бұрын

I have two "First Block" Inlands, obtained from two different sources about three weeks apart. The first was an 11,000 SN range dating from June/July of 1942, like the second or third month of production. The second was an 800,000 range dating from September of 1943. Both have flat bolts. I have the 800,000 range action in a Paratrooper stock as it is within the SN range that the Paratroopers were built from. The good thing about the M1 Carbine was that it was designed so that ANY part from ANY manufacturer would work in any OTHER manufacturer's carbine. This is why when you do find a true wartime carbine, they are often mixmasters... a mix of parts from different manufacturers. In 1944 when older carbines were rounded up for rebuild, the rifles were taken down to the roll pins so to speak. Anything that could be disassembled was and the parts were micrometered and if still serviceable they were put into bins. When the weapons were reassembled they just picked from available parts. You might have an IBM receiver with an inland stock, National Postal meter bolt, Underwood trigger housing with a Rock-Ola trigger and so on... and the weapon would work as if it just came off the assembly line. Indeed, during the initial manufacture, manufacturers often ran short of parts and bought the needed parts off other manufacturers. For a detailed account of the M1 Carbine, you need to read "WAR BABY" by Larry Ruth. This book covers all of the war time production of the M1 Carbine from it's design, through the end of Wartime production.

@BattlefieldCurator 8 күн бұрын

Very good information, thanks 🍻

@FunnyMan-pw4hl 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a Saginaw 33 years ago when they were allowing them back from South Korean. Literally piles of boxed M1 Carbines and M1 Garands with USGI slings, mags and accessories to look through at the gun shops and shows. Man I miss the “good ole days”!

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

We need a time machine!

@JETMECH401ST 2 жыл бұрын

How much were each one of them back then? Btw, thanks for the info, that’s good stuff.

@wesstubbs3472 2 жыл бұрын

Think about what you're saying. It was fun but it required mass murder to happen. Lots and lots of guns.

@fredruiz9001 Жыл бұрын

@Cline123 Жыл бұрын

@@wesstubbs3472different time 33 years ago, people were retarded and actually had respect for guns unlike now

@mentalcog2187 15 күн бұрын

My favorite rifle of all time,... the M1 Carbine 30 Cal. As a kid, growing up around a lot of WW2 Vets,... I was lucky enough to handle several. When all of us boys would play guns,... I got to use a non-firing M1 Carbine 30 Cal and have never forgot it. I've never seen the Paratrooper version before until recently. Wish I could afford one of those. I'd like it much more than my AR 15. Being a single disabled Dad of twin teenage daughters,.. won't ever have one but,.. it's my favorite. Hands down.

@BattlefieldCurator 15 күн бұрын

Understandable, family first 🍻

@mentalcog2187 15 күн бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Absolutely. ✌

@AbuHajarAlBugatti Ай бұрын

Great compact and light little rifle for the common man. Enough for anything that comes your way

@Xtant518 Жыл бұрын

This just made my night ! I had 2 Carbines in my little collection for years. After this video I now know they are both WW2 rifles, one flat bolt , one round. One INDLAND DIV and one UNDERWOOD. Thank you sr for that fun little journey I just went on.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Cheers 😁🍻

@philliphoward7455 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great video. It was very informative. I never realized that the carbine had so many manufacturers, design changes, and models. Thank you again.

@BattlefieldCurator 7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😁🍻

@90FF1 2 ай бұрын

Lots of info in just under 8 minutes and a great delivery too. Thanks.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😁🍻

@Stewart0494 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video. Very educational.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@frednaumann992 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Amazing job!

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

@azbag1906 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Doctor Jones!

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@BulletsBeefandBS 5 ай бұрын

Great vid Dan! Very informative, it would be a dream to come across one of these jewels ! Thanks 👍

@BattlefieldCurator 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 😁🍻

@brandenrunyan1821 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool. I absolutely love the M1 carbine. I have a Quality Hardware model.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Great! Are you considering adding more to your collection?

@nicholasballinger4931 5 ай бұрын

A lot of good information in a short video thank you so 😀

@BattlefieldCurator 5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😁🍻

@leosutherland4555 Жыл бұрын

Awesome info......!

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

@QuentinQuatermass 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for the info! Subscribed. Years ago I stumbled across a Plainfield Machine Co. M1 Carbine. I'd never heard of the company, nor had the dealer, but it was cheap and of qood quality. I kept trying to walk away but couldn't put it down. Very glad I took a chance because it's a great little shooter. I learned recently that other than the 1965 commercial receiver it is built from actual USGI parts. It should be fun trying to identify the manufacturers of these parts.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Yes the Plainfield ones are mostly USGI parts, and I’ve read they are pretty reliable. I saw one at a shop a few months ago, it was snatched up pretty fast.

@Sealofaproval 2 жыл бұрын

I had a Plainfield, all parts were interchangeable with military M1s and the stock was for a M2 I also had a Underwood US GI flip sight and a flat bolt with no bayonet lug, the action was so smooth...

@jimsimons4113 Жыл бұрын

I inherited a Plainfield Machine carbine after a friend passed way many years ago. Over the next forty years I picked-up a couple of GI-issue carbines, so the Plainfield sat unused in my gun safe. This year I passed the weapon onto a young friend of mine, carefully explaining that it was post-war commercial copy, not an original US military rifle. She couldn't have cared less, she absolutely loves her "new" carbine.

@joeySerrano1 2 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks! I have a Winchester.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I like how Winchester used their logo font on the M1 Carbine

@charleswells9682 Ай бұрын

Nice summary. I do wish, however, that you had covered the (so called) Bavarian Carbines. I have one that I bought in 1976. It puzzled me for years why mine had an adjustable notch rear sight rather than a two position flip type. It has been a very good shooter over the years.

@capndad6826 2 жыл бұрын

Mine is Saginaw...nestled in my safe. Fun to shoot. A treasured heirloom.

@waynecoulter6761 14 күн бұрын

Something to note on the Irwin Pedersen carbines... Irwin Pedersen did not produce any carbines that were accepted by the military. Irwin Pedersen carbines should have a S'G' stamped on the left side of the receiver in the area of the magazine well as you look forward towards the barrel. This is because the Irwin Pedersen contract was transferred to Saginaw Gear. Saginaw Gear spun up a second plant in Grand Rapids to build Carbines under this contract and marked their parts S'G'

@BattlefieldCurator 11 күн бұрын

Good info, thanks

@themedhunter Жыл бұрын

Awesome video. It is so important for the customer (especially Milsurps) to have the info before buying. I didn't even know that 'Quality HMC" was a manufacturer.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Yes, I believe that plenty of research must be done before buying a M1 Carbine because there’s tons of information to know about them. Plus, a lot of folks just getting into it haven’t done much research yet and I sought to help them out with this video.

@coltsfan79 2 жыл бұрын

I have an Underwood barrel dated 11/1943. Underwood actually supplied barrels to a few of the other makers.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Yep! I got a Standard Product with an Underwood barrel

@douglasstreet7304 6 ай бұрын

GREAT video, mine is a real Winchester, restored. No new parts BUT my stock was terrible so it has a gorgeous reproduction, marked correctly. All the parts are authentic.

@BattlefieldCurator 6 ай бұрын

Very nice! 🔥

@WhattAreYouSaying Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video. My M1 Carbine is made by Inland in May 1944, has a push button safety, round bolt and adjustable rear sight + bayonet lug. The adjustable rear sight and bayonet lug must have been added after the war. This might have been done in Norway after the war, I live in Norway and lots of M1 Carbine came to the country during the war. Many as airplane-drops. Many were also sold to Norway after the war. They was used by the military until the 1970's and with some police units up to 1995.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that knowledge, I didn’t know Norway received them 👍

@WhattAreYouSaying Жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator No problem! Norway received 98,267 M1 Carbines. The air-plane drops in WW2 is probably not included in that number. And also 72,800 M1 Garand's from the U.S. government before 1964. The Garands was also used by the military, until replaced by the H&K G3 in the 1960's. The Garand is actually still used in Norway for ceremonial purposes. Some people also use them for hunting, shooting and collecting. Many M1 Garand's and M1 Carbine's was sold to civilians as surplus. Same with the around 400,000 captured German Mauser Kar98's from WW2, they were also sold to civilians as surplus during the 1980's and 1990's.

@uncbadguy 7 ай бұрын

Mine was made in 1944 by Underwood. I have a Viet Nam era bayonet given to me by the US Marine Vet who used it. He gave it to me because my M-1 didn't have one. It's the Marine way. If I had needed a haircut, he would have fixed that as well. Or a cigarette...................

@mikeking-lc3vl 4 ай бұрын

Mine is a Standard. And I love it to pieces.

@BattlefieldCurator 4 ай бұрын

Awesome! 😎

@raymondproulx1095 8 ай бұрын

Mine is made by IBM. Got it decades ago from the CMP program. It’s the only IBM manufactured one I have ever come across. All my kids and my older grand children have spent time with it. It’s the perfect weight and performance for a beginner moving up from the 22LR. I spent a lot of time with it in my youth. I just loved target and small game shooting with it. I wish the ammo was still cheap and plentiful. Of course, we can say that about a lot of calibers. I can’t believe what these guns are selling for today. Glad I got mine when I was young.

@BattlefieldCurator 8 ай бұрын

Yes, the prices for these, even new ones like Fulton armory made, are really expensive. I only have one I.B.M. M1 Carbine.

@JefferyAshmore 7 ай бұрын

Cheap to reload, maybe you should do that, very easy to do.

@raymondproulx1095 7 ай бұрын

@@JefferyAshmore Good advice. I already reload several pistol calibers as well as 5.56 NATO and a few other specialty rounds. Looks like it’s time to add another to the work list.

@JefferyAshmore 7 ай бұрын

@raymondproulx1095 good for you sir!!

@carkingz9934 9 ай бұрын

I just picked up a all matching and original rock ola and Winchester I love m1 carbines there one of my favorites to collect

@BattlefieldCurator 9 ай бұрын

Nice!

@carkingz9934 9 ай бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator now I wanna get a ibm and one of them really nice un quality made by union switch and signal and quality hardware

@8incheskok 2 ай бұрын

What a wonderfully informative video! I do not have a WW2 model, however I do have 2 Universal models. One is near serial number 21,000 and it is new in box, the other is near serial number 40,000 and in great condition. Such a fun rifle to shoot.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 ай бұрын

Awesome!

@Jim-nu6ux 5 ай бұрын

Fulton Armory sells reconditioned, WW2, CMP, M1s (and other CMP rifles)

@williambetts4645 18 күн бұрын

The best firearm I ever got was a m1 carbine from the nra sell off when I was 14 . 15$ and a1911 for 17$ 1000 Rounds of each for 1 cent a round. Both still like new and function surpered

@joeabraham2363 Жыл бұрын

I have an underwood m1 carbine..mine has a serial number on the flat bolt along with on the stock where the slope of the sling cutout is..just wondering how many were done that way.

@victorvazquez3252 Жыл бұрын

I’ve got an universal postal meter with a marlin barrel pretty cool

@darrellperry8175 6 ай бұрын

My favorite gun absolutely love the M1 carbine

@BattlefieldCurator 6 ай бұрын

It’s such a lightweight little rifle, and very easy to use. I spent a lot of time shooting mine during the pandemic.

@darrellperry8175 6 ай бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator my dad served in Korea and carried one, he owned 3 of them and left them to me when he passed. They have a special place in my heart with a lot of great memories.

@johnscreekmark 11 ай бұрын

I have an Erma’s Firearms M1 Carbine. It cycles everything I put through it. BTW - If you research the Erma Firearms M1 Carbine, you’ll see it’s made mostly of USGI parts. The Hammer and Trigger mechanism are clearly stamped “E” for Erma manufacture. The Receiver is Erma as well. The receivers on these Erma 30 Cal M1 Carbines has a warning in the research site due to a low Rockwell hardness rating. I took mine to a metallurgist and had it tested. It came back with a Rockwell rating of RC12…well below the minimum USGI rating of RC35. So…I had a gunsmith disassemble the action and I had the metallurgist heat-treat harden the receiver up to RC39. The gunsmith then reassembled and test fired. The gun functions and shoots great…and I have no worried about receiver warping due to it being soft. The stocks on these Ermas are beautiful too!

@BattlefieldCurator 11 ай бұрын

that’s actually good information, thanks for sharing😎🍻

@johnwebb4191 Ай бұрын

I have a new built Inland and would rather use this for any use most think the AR15 is good for. Nothing like steel, wood and canvas sling for an all around weapon. And so light it is enjoyable every time I pick it up.

@Sean-tf1qn Жыл бұрын

I have the round bolt with the x stamp. I'm told that's the transition bolt marked so it's known as mostly updated? 1943 inland with high wood stock and 2 rivets no import marks, bayo lug, adjustable sight

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Yep, nice! I like the look of the high wood stock

@sive1231 Жыл бұрын

I have my Uncle's M1 from his time in Vietnam. It's a Universal from the '60s.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Are you sure it’s a Universal? They didn’t produce M1 Carbines for the U.S. military, only the commercial market

@Glockaholic91 11 ай бұрын

Your story is so fake lol universal are commerical carbine only they never went to vietnam. Ur uncle lied to you hahahahaha

@AbuHajarAlBugatti Ай бұрын

@@BattlefieldCuratorlots of uncles tell fairytales to look more brave and cool in the families eyes

@Nattleby 8 ай бұрын

I have a Rock-ola with RO barrel. Early high wood NPM stock.

@BattlefieldCurator 8 ай бұрын

Nice!

@patnoble1914 11 ай бұрын

My gun has the flat bolt but it has the adjustable sight not the flip sight. It has a bayonet lug. It has the flip safety. No visible marks on the stock and it is a Winchester. The serial number is in the 130xxxx range. Matching numbers on gun except the rear sight. I have no clue when it was made or if it is one of the more desirable ones. Any information would be appreciated.

@Taznor13 2 жыл бұрын

I found an Inland recently not sure what I should do with it? Any advice? It’s missing the magazine. Also I live in NY so not sure if it’s illegal to possess this

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

As far as I’ve read, it’s legal to have an M1 Carbines but you can’t have the 15 rd magazine there. You should be able to find some 10rd or less mags. Do some more research though.

@glennlee6274 2 жыл бұрын

SSSSHHHHH.....clean it up,get some mags and hang on to it!

@artardFTW 2 жыл бұрын

mine is stamped auto-ordinance, Worcester. MA. any ideas? no other stampings aside from US carbine 30 cal M1. on the receiver. was given a serial number after it was taken. it has an interesting back story where it has no other stampings

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a new commercial reproduction M1 Carbine made by Auto Ordnance. Auto Ordnance was a sub contractor during WW2 for M1 Carbine production. Receivers made by Auto Ordnance during the war had receivers marked with IBM Corp, serial number, then AO all below the rear sight.

@crashoverride4881 Жыл бұрын

They only made 6,130, 000 weapons. There were so many subcontractors your lucky to find one with original parts. I own a Quality Hardware with a Buffalo arms barrel, and a Standard Product with an underwood barrel. Both stamped 8/43. Love them.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yes indeed a lot of subcontractors

@danielpushman9597 Жыл бұрын

Six million Carbines manufactured from ‘42-‘45 and somebody gets one with 100% Saginaw, Rockola, or even Winchester parts? Please. The armorers were slapping those pieces together in the states and in pacific an Europe during the war. Then they military armories upgraded them with new sights and bayonet lug barrel bands after the war. Not to mention the m-2 variants. Anyone who tries to sell an m-1 carbine from one source is shining you on.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

@@danielpushman9597 indeed, if it’s all matching, it most likely was force matched

@daltongarrett7117 Жыл бұрын

So, I have a possibly dumb question, what's the deal with universal m1 carbines? I get they are not interchangeable with a real m1 at least not the later ones, but what do you look for in them? Are the magazines interchangeable with the original?

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Good question… I honestly don’t mess around with the Universal M1 Carbines. I’ve heard that a lot of them have issues and to me it does not hold collector value.

@daltongarrett7117 Жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator understandable, I'm curious as I've seen one at a decent price. Was going to be looking at it and am looking for info, anyways appreciate the reply.

@chadhaire1711 6 ай бұрын

NOT a GI part gun.....only magazine works....if it breaks you are out of luck...$300 or less

@alanrogs3990 5 ай бұрын

Are non-rebuilt versions worth more? My Inland 1943 doesn't seem to have been re-arsenaled. Any other things to look for to check this out for sure?

@BattlefieldCurator 5 ай бұрын

Generally speaking, most early configured M1 Carbines with flip sights, push button safety, early stock, and flat bolt may go for more at auction. Check the stock for any re-Arsenal markings or manufacturers markings. Google those markings. The top handguard should also have one hole on each side if is an early style.

@trench_raider8247 Жыл бұрын

I was lucky enough to get a June 1943 inland that was in Italian stockpile in 1968 for $800, honestly a steal for 2022

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Yea definitely! Anything under 1k is a good deal for a WW2 M1 Carbine

@trench_raider8247 Жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator it was from a hole in a wall gun store I'm best friends with as well, I love it, and it's even my truck gun as we speak right now

@as03uk Жыл бұрын

this guy is just churning a stream of info which should be stone boring. But the way he says it all is so engaging!

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@andrewaston6224 2 жыл бұрын

I just picked up an all original rock ola with all rock ola parts and early features even the high cut stock for a steal at a local gun shop!

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome find! Good deals are still out there!

@robertsr.249 11 ай бұрын

Thats worth a chunk of money , i could kick myself for selling the rock ola that i had ,

@bam2922 Ай бұрын

Are the wincheater 1944 models reliable and worth the 1500 proce tag?

@generalzod7959 2 жыл бұрын

I simply don't care if it's ww2 era or not. I know my carbine isn't from that era but, I've got a garand that I've dated to it's assembly to between January and March of 1943 so, it may have seen real action but it is definitely from the era regardless. It's neat and all but more important, it works!

@kohnbonn9744 6 ай бұрын

That's a lot of explaining from someone who doesnt care

@theblindsniper9130 2 жыл бұрын

Between the good video editing skills, voice of the gods, glorious beard, and valuable history lesson, im surprised you dont have more subs. Better than my work. From one small time channel to another, subbed.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

lol Thank you for your support!

@theblindsniper9130 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Absolutely my friend. Ive actually got a discord server im in for small time gun channels. We share valuable information, give ideas, set up collaberations, ect If youre interested in checking it out, heres a link.

@theblindsniper9130 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator discord.gg/xmutQAr

@matthewwhitley565 Жыл бұрын

I have a Winchester with the flat bolt and also a Rock-ola any idea of price range and where to sell ?

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Probably check out your local gun shops and see if they do consignment. Or see what they have sold for on gun broker.

@lemuelbattle4292 16 күн бұрын

I have an m with a original side mount for scope I have 6 power scope mounted on it. I also have a Ruger pistol chambered for m1 carbine

@110MAN1 5 ай бұрын

I have an Inland DIV, appears early model, vet bring back. It has a U.S. Coast Guard marking on the butt stock. Is this accurate? Did the USCG mark theirs in this way?

@BattlefieldCurator 5 ай бұрын

Wow I have not heard of a coast guard marked one. Might be best to do some research on it

@firebrand07 7 ай бұрын

I just bought a 11-43 Underwood that was carried by the previous owner 2 tours in Nam as a radio operator.

@BattlefieldCurator 7 ай бұрын

Wow! That’s incredible history!

@bootsperformance 3 ай бұрын

I challenge anyone watching this video to post a picture of a commercial controls. I've been collecting carbines a very long time and have never seen even a picture of a commercial controls. Also they were never given to the soldiers

@Seregtir Жыл бұрын

I found one with a totally different charging handle. It’s missing the pin that holds the bolt open, and there is no detent in the receiver for that missing pin to engage. It’s made by Universal. Is this a civilian model?

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s civilian

@vinceruland9236 2 жыл бұрын

I have a National Postal Meter M1 in the safe.

@yoloswagthuglifeselfie568 2 жыл бұрын

Does your have any insignia on the barrel?

@vinceruland9236 11 ай бұрын

@yoloswagthuglifeselfie568 wow, sorry for the massively late response. Yes, mine has an Underwood barrel dated 9-43 and the flaming bomb insignia.

@trulynostalgic7952 25 күн бұрын

I know this is an old video, but can you do a video explaining the different types for m1 carbine parts? I'm having a hard time figuring it out

@BattlefieldCurator 22 күн бұрын

I’ll have to make a deep dive into that, might take some time but I’ll consider working on it

@trulynostalgic7952 22 күн бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator awesome!

@dave434 7 ай бұрын

Always wanted 30 cal carbine.

@valdemarnunez9475 2 ай бұрын

so, curious if the length of the barrel tells a story. I just got one with a 16" barrel ?

@kevinfieguth4377 2 жыл бұрын

How do you price a non numbered prototype built before being mass manufactured?

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man! That would carry one hefty auction tag. You’d have to get it appraised by the most reputable auction house or appraisers … Rock Island Auction is probably where I’d start.

@davidmccall4776 7 ай бұрын

Rear sight was also called a "peep" sight.

@marjunpurugganan2530 2 ай бұрын

I have INLAND DIV. M2 Carbin, all stock and still in excellent condition, but sadly, its hard to buy the ammo here in the Philippines..

@michaeloppenheimer2582 Ай бұрын

What about an m one grand style stock on a m one carbine.

@user-hx3cm7kq7b Жыл бұрын

Can we retrofit or change/ replace an old barrel to a new one.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Fulton armory and I believe Criterion make barrels

@dimasjayuli2610 4 ай бұрын

👍👍

@scotbot2016 3 ай бұрын

So I have a m1 carbine but I know it’s from Winchester due to the fact the model number comes back to that but it’s only designation it has is a W and then followed by the serial numbers underneath it on top of that I found out it was used by a actual medic in wwii and I have his ammo pouches and his rifle untouched could this be a gem? Or something else

@BattlefieldCurator 3 ай бұрын

It’s not marked “Winchester” under the rear sight? Strange. Maybe post some photos of it in M1 Carbine Facebook groups

@scotbot2016 3 ай бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator it not marked by the word only by a letter which is a big W and it comes back to Winchester too and has another W on the bottom of the barrel near the muzzle also I don’t have facebook since I don’t like to use it

@jmuraidajr 11 ай бұрын

I have a Quality Hardware M1 Carbine by S.N. on it I was told it was made back at the end of 1944! It has a two-pin high wood stock, round bolt, adjustable rear sight, flip safety, and bayonet lug! I was told that Quality Hardware at the end of the war made some M1 carbines with bayonet lugs on them! Do you know if this is true?

@BattlefieldCurator 11 ай бұрын

Possibly

@firas16636 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know anything about the m1 that has a metal heat shield about the handguard, no bayonet lug, adjustable rear sight with a high profile stock?

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

That doesn’t help much. What does it say on the receiver and/or by the rear sights? Should have a model or manufacture information

@AK74Man87 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Transitional period Winchester I bought from Royal Tiger Imports, I believe it was 1944. It’s almost all Winchester minus the trigger housing assembly and maybe mag release. It has the early 2 pin high wood stock and early I rear sling mount stock and even the oiler bottle is Winchester.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

That’s cool! I’m surprised it came with the oil bottle as well

@AK74Man87 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Yes, original sling too. It was broken but was tied in a knot, still works enough for me.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

@@AK74Man87 I remember seeing a few of those in some of their photos and videos. Glad you were able to get one with sling and oiler.

@bigdaddypain295 Ай бұрын

I have 54 painted on the bottom of the grip and MRM stamped in the stock. What does that mean?

@BattlefieldCurator Ай бұрын

The 54 is most likely a rack number, and I’m not sure about the MRM

@bigdaddypain295 Ай бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator it’s a inland receiver and barrel. Very nice condition too. Thank you, I think it was the soldiers initials.

@bigstyx 7 ай бұрын

I have a auto-ordnance from my research it was manufactured until late 1943.

@dhuze66 5 ай бұрын

Auto-Ordinance is a commercial reproduction of the M1 Carbine. It's not from 1943. They made them a long time ago and have recently started making them again.

@henrykrecklow817 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Winchester that I tracked to a 1942 Manufacture date.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Must be a nice one! 💯

@ddawsond 9 ай бұрын

Might I recommend that you learn all about the advantages and limitations of the weapon that you are considering to buy so that you do not expect more then it will deliver? It can save a lot of disappotment and wasted money.

@gregorycooper7962 7 ай бұрын

is the m1 carbine with bayonet lug illegal to own?

@BattlefieldCurator 7 ай бұрын

Check your state laws, I haven’t heard of any reason to ban them just because of bayonet lugs though

@Glockaholic91 11 ай бұрын

I got an inland M2 carbine. The serial number is in the 6.9 million range, no-import marking on it and it has M1 stamp on the reciever. I heard Early M2 where M1 with the Conversion kit into M2. After the 7.2million serial number range the M2 where later stamp M2 on the reciever. My inland m2 carbine, has all inland part in it from the trigger assemblily to the reciever and bayonet lug mark IA and barrel is stamp inland division general motor but has no year/month stamp. Has the fun Switch on the left side too. My woodstock is a type5 pop belly with markinv IO marking on the handgard for original inland stock and the stock has the crosscannon on the rightside.

@jeremygould492 9 ай бұрын

What about a rmc stamp on the butt of the stock I know it is royal marine corp

@ed5042 Жыл бұрын

anyone have an opinion on a Bullseye carbine? Oddly accurate; sandbag at 100 yards five rounds two inches. Yes, the rear sight is at max windage left.

@chadhaire1711 6 ай бұрын

IAI made all GI parts with non GI receiver

@solarprophet5439 Жыл бұрын

Just checked the one I inherited from my grandfather, a WW2 vet. Fought on the Italian front, wounded in action. Had a nasty scar on his forearm, claimed he had a metal plate in it. Another scar on his forehead. Probably shrapnel wounds, but he never talked about it. Anyway, it's marked Inland Division, has a adjustable sight, flat bolt, button safety, and a bayonet lug. No import marks I can see either. Pretty sure that means it is indeed his service weapon. Wasn't sure because it has the 'cheese grater' heat shield common on the universal M1's, but I also have the original wooden piece as well.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Wow incredible story. I wonder if he changed the heat shield out over time? Do you know if he took it to the range a lot? What’s the date on the barrel? Thanks for sharing!

@scottbashaw1761 7 ай бұрын

My friends M1 says General Motors by the front sight

@Ghostridersixnine 10 ай бұрын

Incorrect about flat top bolts and dates! Flat tops were still installed well past 1943! I just inspected a 2/44 inland that was 100% original and it had a matching blued flat top bolt. Ww2 flat tops were blued and not parked so if the bolt is parkerized it is an arsenal worked weapon. Also, inland did install bayonet lugs on some weapons in late 44 ww2 production as did Winchester. However, they are not common so you have to look at several other things to tell if it’s period or post 45 added. One thing would be a shadow under the lug etc along with update mods like the rear site. Not to mention do the stamps match on all fittings or parts to that manufacturer.

@BattlefieldCurator 10 ай бұрын

That is true, I have seen plenty of later ones with flat bolts. errr I should have worded it differently... thanks for the in depth explanation!

@JamesThomas-gg6il 7 ай бұрын

Just to set the record straight, any and all bolts that were already produced would ja e been installed and sent out the door just like any new made parts. They were "replaced" with the round bolt but only after the flat bolts were depleted. So both of you are correct in context. Besides with over 6 1/2 million being made in 38 months by ten manufacturers and hundreds of subs there is bound to be some things that slip by.

@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 Жыл бұрын

Ahhhh finally... a guy who pronounces "carbine" correctly (CAR-BEEN)!!....SUBBED

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@pb68slab18 7 ай бұрын

I was walking an M1 carbine around a gun show a few years ago to sell. It was a DCM gun w/box, a Standard Products post-war rebuild of a Standard Products with STD PROD RWK stamp on the stock. One dealer at a table asked to see it and asked me what made me think it was a genuine USGI carbine? I retorted what makes you think it isn't? His reply was that every USGI carbine was marked US PROPERTY! 🤨

@BattlefieldCurator 7 ай бұрын

Lol

@chris.3711 Жыл бұрын

I just grabbed a National Postal today. The guy I bought it from only deals in legitimate WW2 gear and I know him, but it still helps to know all the ins and outs of my new rifle

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Enjoy it 😎

@OneofMyTurns Жыл бұрын

I have a National Postal Meter also ENJOY!!!

@kathyarmstrong649 Жыл бұрын

Now you can go down the Rabbit Hole of Magazines and their makers marks!

@2009Berghof 2 жыл бұрын

OM! This is a bit like watching The Andy Griffith Show while trying to identify the long arms in the Sheriff's gunrack. You have to look closely while trying to ignore that attention grabber in front of the camera.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

lol

@2009Berghof 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Glad you liked that. I was hoping you would not take offense. My comment regarding the TV show comes from my book, MAYBERRY AT ARMS. It has always intrigued me for decades, what guns were in the Sheriff's gunrack.

@MrHarryhellman 7 ай бұрын

What about Universal and Plainfield?

@BattlefieldCurator 7 ай бұрын

Both are commercial and not WW2. Plainfields do have WW2 parts though, and have pretty good reliability from what I’ve read.

@chadhaire1711 6 ай бұрын

$300 tops

@garypulliam3740 2 жыл бұрын

So what if you have a Frankenstein? All authentic WW2 but pieced together with parts from various contractors? A rebuild, if you will, from various unservicable rifles, for whatever reason ... combat damage, poor treatment, etc.?

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

That’s perfectly normal for M1 Carbines. There were many contractors and sub contractors so parts will not match. It’s actually quite suspicious if all the parts are of the same manufacturer.

@garypulliam3740 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Cool. Thanks!

@rslover65 2 жыл бұрын

@@garypulliam3740 same goes for M1 Garands and to a lesser extent 1903 rifles.

@datalt7873 2 жыл бұрын

My carbine shows Underwood but with a line going through it.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Cool, it’s known as a “line out” M1 Carbine, quite hard to find one of those.

@datalt7873 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Ah that's pretty neat. I couldn't find too much info about it. Thanks!

@marksaint2936 Жыл бұрын

Any one have the Federal Ordinance manufacturered guns? Are they any good?

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure about those

@chadhaire1711 6 ай бұрын

@Noose-hu4zn 10 ай бұрын

I've got a AK I wood trade for a good carbine rockola would be great

@decibellone696 10 ай бұрын

I dont know - the history of this weapon suggests its history is less important than its functionality - its a weapon thats its manufacture (and to the point) is to NOT! being centralized. So adding value to any one manufacturer is inflated, because that's not what it was. example of my rant, id rather have a ROCK-OLA then an Indland, why? GM made the majority of them. smaller companies made less Inland a sub of GM - but in the "market" Inland gets the money. see? I have a Saginaw, i love it beacuse of its oddity - and it shoots every bit as good and an Inland...

@MrMuppetbaby 2 жыл бұрын

These Ones? we don't say These Ones. You are rare. :)

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@MrMuppetbaby 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Liking and Subscribing.

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMuppetbaby appreciate it! 🍻

@OneofMyTurns Жыл бұрын

Nobody really knows how the Commercial Controls were marked because none have been found. Commercial Controls originally was National Postal Meter and they changed there name of the company.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

Interesting 🤔

@OneofMyTurns Жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Yes it really makes you wonder what country has them. My guess is Korea or Vietnam.

@BattlefieldCurator Жыл бұрын

@@OneofMyTurns hopefully the CMP can get some over here from those other countries.

@OneofMyTurns Жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator Right instead of Royal Tiger Imports because now there putting there import name on them and CMP doesn’t.

@ryanleelibby Ай бұрын

I just bot a m1 carbine and it doesn't have a marking of who made it does that mean it was made after ww2? 😊

@BattlefieldCurator Ай бұрын

It definitely should have some kind of marking. Check it all over again and underneath the rear sight.

@iowa_lot_to_travel9471 2 жыл бұрын

The Indiana Jones of firearms. Rugged cowboy meets intellectual. 👍👍 Found an Underwood for a reasonable price last summer. And a Christmas present for myself in the paratrooper model from Inland

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, the Indy jokes never get old! Someone at work said I need a bull whip. Great haul btw, it's getting harder to find the paratrooper models at a reasonable price!

@iowa_lot_to_travel9471 2 жыл бұрын

@@BattlefieldCurator yes it is. Let it sit for a week before going to a local pawn shop to check it out. Thought Inland commercial reproduction at first because of the lever safety. My inland with the regular stock has the cross bolt safety. But after perusing some videos to verify the authenticity, bought it for a bargain

@behindenemylines3361 2 жыл бұрын

I loved to get one but (IMHO) they are too pricy

@BattlefieldCurator 2 жыл бұрын

you never know, over the last few years i have found some under 1k... One of them, it was an IBM, was already in the hands of its future owner when i arrived at the shop. I was about ten minutes too late for that one lol. glad another enthusiast was able to get a great piece of history though

@garypiont6114 2 жыл бұрын

Look under sporters & other . I have a rock ole& standard using this.

@smibsid7646 2 жыл бұрын

My Father said that exact same thing 40 years ago ! Still kicking himself 😂

@garreth629 2 жыл бұрын

They are pricey but I don't see that value decreasing as long as you take care of it. I just purchased my first m1 carbine for $1000 yesterday. Honestly you could probably find one cheaper if you shopped around but still I'm happy with the price. Most Mil-surp are now expensive atleast compared to what I remember them growing up. I still kick myself for not buying a few of the rifles Big 5 used to have back in the 2000's. Honestly if you really want a specific rifle the best time to buy it is probably now as there prices probably won't come down. Also if you can't find a deal locally get online. I managed to find a clean M1 Garand for under $1000 on gun broker with a good original barrel. Mind you it probably never saw combat as it was made the year after Korea. Meanwhile the carbine I got is WWII.