It's nice that FT and the Coalition have been able to come up with a product, but it seems a bit bulky. I did a quick search and found an ESP32 module and GPS module that can probably do the job and in a smaller package. Seeed Studio XIAO nRF52840 and the SparkFun GP-735. The combination on a PCB would probably be thicker, but I think the overall package would be smaller and work with 5v from the FC.

You just put a BT2 connection to your quad and then to the GPS. That way you can move it from quad to quad. And just plug it like it's a battery

I needed that laugh. I’m at 0:02 That’s why your one of the very few I support, once I heard you say you quit you job to pursue this passion and make it a career as I did last year the week I started. Thanks for everything you’ve taught us!

Beyond 2012 and world didn't end, we panic RID for nothing hahaha

just so you know bardwell you doxed your own RID module for a split second when you moved the app off the screen at like 12:26😅😅

No this needs to not exist, the government has no right to control what you do, good luck USA

@@FamDek just the GPS is 10 bucks

Wait, the DJI (O3?) VTX now supports RID? Out of the loop a bit.

Lol.. I guess you dont understand the idea of taxes.

@@mrthingdudeman this is not taxes. Our taxes are supposed to go to services provided by the government. What’s that got to do with what I said?

@@mrthingdudemanour taxes should pay for this

@@MrChanw11 I dont disagree with you.. RemoteID is a not a well thought out idea. It can work for commercial operations, but its wrong for hobbyist. Anyways, the government is _always_ going to get its money.

nope lol not how that works

P.S. I would redo the test under better weather conditions. You wouldn't realistically be flying in a rainstorm anyway and I believe it impacts the accuracy.

Hey, the atrazine thing with the frogs was accurate.

Came here to say this. That's a huge board and the secondary design feature of this also acting as a GPS would would seem to be in conflict. I'm not gonna hide my FC GPS in my stack, for example. That and we are all buying M10s now.

@@richardamiss7000 Agreed. Unfortunately I have yet to see an M10 based RID module out... I am guessing that it took forever to get this design approved, and then changing it out to M10 now would be a hassle. The Spekrum module appears to be an old M8 as well. A pity. With a 6 month relief period, maybe the market can introduce them by the end of it.

M8 is fine. Not as accurate... perfect

​@@JohnCuppithe drone tag BS uses the new M10 chipset. I have one and I think it's a way better option than the ft board shown here.

It needs to have more than just GPS. It has to also have a microcontroller and a broadcast system. The GPS is just one function. It also needs to send signals that meet the protocol. To do this it does need additional circuitry. So even if they use a smaller GPS chip, it will be larger than the gm10 by itself. Not saying it can not be smaller but it will never be as small as the gm10 by itself.

Just watched Ken's video. It is missing the cheapest 3: FT EZ ID $99.99, Spektrum SkyID $99.99 (but currently on Preorder for $69.99), and DroneTag BS $89. I was not surprised by the results in Ken's video.

@@bitogreyeah I don’t think those two were available at the time of his test. But I agree it’s not surprising doesn’t bother me much less irritated by the requirement.

That's exactly what I did. I got the whole thing, RID module, 3D case and 2 (two) LIR 2032 battery case at just about 20 grams. It has a on-off switch (battery case) and you could velcro the whole thing on. The LIR with 4 batteries and charger was like $8 or 9, and the battery case was about the same (albeit it was a 4 pack, so I have 3 extras now). So I want to say I am at about $120 for everything (FliteTest RID, battery/charger, and case for batteries). With two LIR2032 batteries I got about an hour of time before the cells dropped below usable range. You can just attach it do literally anything. I could theoretically put it on a Mini 2 which won't get the DJI RID update if it's flying Part 107, because now it's a custom drone, right? (partly sarcasm), but I do have it on my Josh Bardwell DIY FPV 5" drone I'm building. I could easily move it to other drones and attach with velcro. The way I see it is it's assigned (RID) to me, assigned to a "custom built FPV."

Right, Joshua was under a canopy and with trees. That can distort the GPS radio signal.

With 10+ satellites locked, GPS accuracy is more like +/- 3 feet.

Totally

I love the "We can't fly from here so lets go 100 feet that way and fly here from there to comply with the regulations"

@@Qwarzz common sense is t common to everyone lol

9/11

@@christopherkinslow9034cant wait to see the first quad hit a building and instead of taking it down it just make PHLONK. thats about it. nice work FAA! i am already feeling much safer now😂

Its just a cover my ass rule, so when somebody does something with a drone the political class can say bbbut we passed rid, not my fault

scared, lying criminal lawmakers...........................

Politicians and a dji drone over a ball park. Yep.

Free men don't ask permission

Thats what the connector version allows you to do. If you're just doing compliance, get the plug kit and connector. You have the power plug that fits in your balance lead or you can wire to the flight controller and disconnect easily.

I like that. I wonder if there would even be a way to just work one into a smoke stopper like plug between the battery and quad. Same as your idea, but you wouldn't even need to mount it if you did it right.

@@joshmellon390 The FliteTest EZ ID does have built in smoke stopper. If you reverse the polarity on the EZ ID it doesn't allow the voltage across.

Keep in mind he had a house, tree canopy and rain clouds, all blocking open sky to satellites 11,000 miles away at 44 watts of transmit power. Dont use this as a benchmark to compare unless you fly in the rain often.

My security priorities may be different than yours. That's ok. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they're wrong.

@@JoshuaBardwell Well, tbh if someone REALLY wanted to figure out where JB lived, this video wouldn't be the source, as many other videos have map overlays and aerial footage one could extremely geolocate with any number of tools. If he were in Ukraine and had anti-air toys, he would have had incoming kinetic friends in minutes. The RemoteID however is a unique qualifier that could easily be used elsewhere, creating issues for Joshua if they flew unsafely or in unauthorized airspace (say, over a military base). Now he's explaining how his RID # showed up over Camp/Base/Air Station XYZ on a certain date and time to an FBI agent. Much different security issue...both are worth protecting though... I've had crazy people come to my door just because the neighbors knew I flew drones and had a KZfaq channel, and I never fly over my house on a public channel.

At that point, just don't power it up. If you're not complying, what does it matter?

I'm assuming most FAA or LEO are at best safety specialists but not electrical engineers familiar with RF engineering. If you said "Faraday cage," 99% of the population would have zero clue what you're talking about. Say it to a Ham Radio operator and 99% WILL know what you're talking about (IDK, I'm probably stretching that, but I think it's fair to say a Ham should understand RF and what the cage is doing). Just say you did it for safety of the module. "Look, I crash. I crash A LOT! I had to build this cage for it to survive. I had to ground it so if something energized touched it, it wouldn't be a safety risk". Bring up the fact your safer, newer appliances have a 3rd plug (ground). Pretty hard to argue with your logic. And since they're forcing us to modify Part 15, and non-Part 15 with a non-tested 3rd party, after market electronic, RF emitting device, there's little leg for them to stand on. However, the problems will really manifest when they re-write the rules to avoid these situations. If you're a pew-pew enthusiast in Cali, I point as an example the "button" and break down pin regulations for lower receivers. The more regulators re-wrote the laws, the more creative the enthusiasts got going around them, and in turn, the more silly the subsequent laws became until it reaches epic proportions. Look at what a Cali compliant "aye" "arrr" fifteen (Hooked on Phonics worked for me!) looks like nowadays.

You can see the 20x20 holes on it

Yes, if you fly for recreation not commercial.

Yes it does that.

Correct.

The ESP32 thats in every drone ive seen is enough to comply you probably good :)

So in the us there is no speed limit over here the smalest option is 30 gr 300€

You could but did you notice the battery which will allow BLE to remain active for 1-3 years without additional power source. I can't see whats under that ceramic antenna but super capacitors are also a thing. His phone was just picking up stray bluetooth signals from that module. The module itself was not communicating directly with or reporting to his phone or at least that app. Now his phone relaying back to cloud command much like apple airtags do im sure was going on (as would be the case with any other bluetooth device nearby car, other phones, tvs.

If Dronetag BS delivers on the promise of using an existing UBLOX GPS module in pass-through mode, without external antennas, then it will be on par with this. Today, Dronetag BS doesn't do that, as far as I know.

The same accuracy as reg RTH via betaflight, no difference. BF doesn’t use any type of sensor fusion besides barometer and it’s the only way to do it w bf anyhow. INav is a bit better in this regard

Won't this be illegal according to the FAA rules?