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A Simple Guitar Finishing Trick For A Better Shellac Finish

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The Art Of Lutherie - Guitar Making

The Art Of Lutherie - Guitar Making

Күн бұрын

In this video, I'll demonstrate and explain a simple guitar finishing technique specifically for French polishing guitars made from resinous woods like cocobolo PLUS we take it a step further with a great bonus tip too.
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This simple trick has critical to getting great results from my guitar french polishing and I hope it will do the same for you and help you build better guitars.

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@toneconsultant
@toneconsultant 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t wait for him to get to the point
@guzzirob
@guzzirob 7 ай бұрын
I built an acoustic guitar over 50 years ago using Brazilian Rosewood and German spruce top. I used the French polish method after receiving a very brief lesson on how to apply it. While I didn't have near the knowledge or experience this gentleman has, it turned out amazingly well. The finish has held up quite well considering all the years that have passed. It's not in need of a refinish at all. Of course taking proper care of the guitar over the years has helped preserve and sustain the good condition the guitar is in today.
@brette
@brette Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful instrument. Thanks for this! Will be taking your full course!
@ronsfi
@ronsfi 5 жыл бұрын
Shorter. Clean the perfling after pore filling, with clean cloth and alcohol before polishing. Be sure to shift to clean areas of the cloth. -15:00
@carsonmax9703
@carsonmax9703 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be so offtopic but does someone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account..? I somehow forgot my password. I appreciate any assistance you can offer me
@carsonmax9703
@carsonmax9703 3 жыл бұрын
@Harrison Mathew I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and im trying it out atm. Takes a while so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@carsonmax9703
@carsonmax9703 3 жыл бұрын
@Harrison Mathew it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D Thank you so much you saved my account !
@harrisonmathew5001
@harrisonmathew5001 3 жыл бұрын
@Carson Max Happy to help =)
@timort2260
@timort2260 4 жыл бұрын
That guitar is beautiful. I'm using shellac a lot more lately this was very helpful and useful. Thank you
@nickmccormick850
@nickmccormick850 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing , I have come to learn that shellac can be quite finicky unitl you learn these types of tips and techniques.
@arieldeleon9648
@arieldeleon9648 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing... Learned a lot..
@FabianRomano1
@FabianRomano1 4 жыл бұрын
It actually looks amazing as it is with that mate finish. Could be an option to leave it like that, might sound better even.
@henrypagan6657
@henrypagan6657 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@dariancornish9787
@dariancornish9787 3 жыл бұрын
This is really great content. Very informative and well presented. Thank you for sharing.
@teamomundo7634
@teamomundo7634 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Im currently struggling with this issue!! Sooo helpful! Greetings from Spain!
@rolandosoto4545
@rolandosoto4545 4 ай бұрын
You need to buy his course
@pfmcnamara
@pfmcnamara 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thanks for sharing it. I couldn't help but notice that the radiuses (radii) on all of your edges are beautifully consistent. I'd love to know how you achieve this (maybe another quick tip video idea).
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, Thanks so much! It's a small detail but one that I think makes a very big difference in the overall impression of the guitar. I think you're right that it would make a great video so I will put it on the list for sure. In the meantime, what I do is leave the binding square until almost the very end of the woodworking portion of the guitar building process. That helps me see clearly how even the thickness of the bindings are as I work my way toward finish preparations. Then I start the rounding of the bindings with fine luthier's files like these: amzn.to/2Vnj8N5 (if it's ebony I sometime use a scraper as well) After that I use 150 sandpaper with soft sanding block. Then switch to 320 and continue to refine. ***The key to all of it is using light and shadows to see the evenness and gracefulness of the contours. The shadow is the inverse of the shine that will show these details after the guitar is done. That's an important thing to keep in mind for getting the best results consistently. Hope that helps a little!
@MoGiMaL
@MoGiMaL Жыл бұрын
Great video. As a beginner I’m trying to soak up every last little tip. For the ADD type people out there: if you’re on the phone app double tap on the right side of the video to skip ahead ten seconds, three times for 20 seconds, etc. Using a keyboard press -> key for 5 seconds, J for 10 seconds. You’re welcome.
@rolandosoto4545
@rolandosoto4545 4 ай бұрын
It. E nice if he showed how he did that
@chrisosseweijer2798
@chrisosseweijer2798 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmm, "blending color in like an artist", The appearance of this guitar looks like it was made by an artist. Now, who can this be ? ....Beautiful guitar and great vid. Thanks !
@MichaelScottPerkins
@MichaelScottPerkins 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh man. I am so glad I found this video! I have always wanted to learn, and I mean REALLY learn how to French polish a guitar. I am an avid (hobby) woodworker, and 9 times outta 10, when someone says French Polish, I get all excited, only to learn that what they are calling "french polish" is simply not a French Polish. Kinda like how Morton's Salt sells "Kosher" salt, but there's really nothing Kosher about it. It contains chemical dryers (not Kosher) and It's not like Morton Inc. employs a Rabbi that blesses each box of salt etc. So, it is more like "Kosher-STYLE" salt. Just like, buffing a thick-ass coat of shellac isn't a French polish. But I will say, at 02:09 in this video you say, "I've got a FREE three-part tutorial on French Polishing over at..." but when I go to the website, there does not seem to be a free video. I have looked into pretty much every luthier course in the US, Canada, and Spain, and your prices/rates are an absolute deal! I can tell, just from this video, that you are a patient, thorough, and almost zen-like instructor. I personally cannot afford any extra expenses unfortunately, so I was bummed to not be able to see the Free Fr. Polish videos, but... I wish you all the luck in the world, as I am sure your students are very grateful!
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Michael! :) You can find the free videos here: theartoflutherie.com/french-polishing-technique-and-free-videos/ I totally agree with your other comments. The approach I love (and that has helped me improve my own guitars over the years) is to the core of the thing and understand the "WHY" behind it, then I can make more creative and meaningful decisions which for me has produced better results on my instruments. It's the same approach I take in my courses ( theartoflutherie.com/my-membership-options-page/ ) that has helping many many people improve their guitars and French polishing technique too which is awesome!!
@Morten_Nielsen1979
@Morten_Nielsen1979 5 жыл бұрын
"French polish saved my life". 😂
@ronsfi
@ronsfi 5 жыл бұрын
He uses Everclear...
@elemonix4334
@elemonix4334 4 жыл бұрын
“I ended up lighting my house on fire. And in the hospital.”
@jokinmyass9446
@jokinmyass9446 3 жыл бұрын
A lasted up until that point.😂
@henrypagan6657
@henrypagan6657 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Do you use any sealer for the Cocobolo it’s oily with time don’t it chip easy and trim yellow with time. Thanks for your videos your amazing.
@joeballs5669
@joeballs5669 5 жыл бұрын
thanks
@cycadaacolyte6349
@cycadaacolyte6349 5 жыл бұрын
*Air Brushers Hate Him* Get a French Polish with this one crazy trick!
@RumitheBartender
@RumitheBartender 3 жыл бұрын
Im sorry if this is a dumb question but I’m new to the guitar world. Does doing this to a guitar affect the sound? Thanks
@Nicksongs841
@Nicksongs841 Жыл бұрын
I have some superficial string lash marks around the bridge in my French polish guitar. I tried some naphtha to restore its luster to no avail. Would everclear work for this situation?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, French polishing around the bridge is a tricky area. If you do try to polish it, you will have to blot out your pad until it looks totally dry, and be very careful not to overwork the area and cause a bigger problem. My advice is that if you do intend to try it, I recommend working up a test board first to practice and experiment. You'd have to French Polish some scrap wood to build up a good gloss and then try to recreate those scratches. Then test the methods of fixing them. On the test piece (not the guitar yet), you could try a little shellac, a little alcohol, and a tiny drop of olive oil on the pad. Then blot the pad on a Bounty paper towel until it seems very dry, and then glide onto the surface and try to work the scratched areas just a bit and then stop before things get too soft and other damage gets done. You'll have to try different methods until you find what works on the test wood first. That way, if it all goes wrong, your guitar doesn't end up in worse shape than before.
@Nicksongs841
@Nicksongs841 Жыл бұрын
Really good idea. I did not think of that route. Thank you so much and for all your videos!
@x21dcv
@x21dcv Жыл бұрын
After the shellac, is there a top coat? Or shellac only?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 11 ай бұрын
Some people will add a final protective coat of pure carnuba wax. I don't, though, I use the shellac only.
@jannatinkarlen8702
@jannatinkarlen8702 3 жыл бұрын
If the oil finish use lead oil drying agent (which is pretty common) sn't it also dangerous?
@steveschaefer5835
@steveschaefer5835 5 жыл бұрын
I just checked your website and I can't find the free Introduction of French Polishing videos. It looks like I would have to Join the Luthier's EDGE to access them.
@generalsaitama3945
@generalsaitama3945 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Dempsey
@dromeus21
@dromeus21 3 жыл бұрын
Most definitely him
@jerrylee087
@jerrylee087 3 жыл бұрын
New sub here!🤘
@robertplato1436
@robertplato1436 5 жыл бұрын
Is it o.k. to use Johnson Paste Wax to touch up small worn spots on spruce.It seems to work well on my old player to stabilize the wood but am I damaging the finish in the long run?
@RodrickDuranMusic
@RodrickDuranMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, hey Tom!
@RodrickDuranMusic
@RodrickDuranMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I knew you from the good ol days. Good to see you still at it! -Rod Blackman
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Rod, good to hear from you , hope you're doing well!
@PeterOzanne
@PeterOzanne 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom: I watched your short video on your site, (I like your videos and your style), about varying pressure and "pulling over" in straight lines to flatten out the swirl marks, but I'm still having trouble with that, even when I load the pad just lightly, I have a devil of a job to erase the swirls. Also, weirdly, I seem to get a vapour trail one day, and none the next, using the same set-up both times. I already did an expensive course! Any suggestions?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, I remember the frustration I felt when I was first starting too, so I feel your pain. My teacher was Eugene Clark (the best French Polisher I have ever seen). Like you a took a class. I went and studied with Eugene and learned French polishing and much much more about the art of guitar building. But even if you stay for months, eventually you have to leave and go back to your own workshop. When I left I felt like I fully understood French Polishing and was excited to get started back in my workshop. But like all things in lutherie there is always another variable that pops up and throws you a curve ball, and it did in this case. That feeling of being alone and stuck after all the time and investment in the courses and training is one of the things that inspired me make my online course and online luthier community The Luthier's EDGE. Some things just need ongoing support and a way to review the material as many times as necessary as you move through different challenges and phases of understanding and skill. From what you said, I think your problem is that you are working too wet. Anytime there are swirls, it means the pad has too much finish/alcohol. I have demonstrations of all this in my course, but basically you need to think of French Polishing like Spit Shining. Very dry pad and lots of rubbing. Try loading your pad with just a fingertip (I put my finger over the bottle top and just splash a little on it) of shellac and then another of alcohol on your pad. IF your guitar is sealed well enough t protect the bare wood then you can add a tiny drop of olive oil as well. Then the key is to blot this on a paper towel until there is only a tiny bit of moisture showing and it looks almost all the way dry. Then begin your work on the surface of the guitar and see how it goes. Don't worry about the vapor trail, just focus on making the pad dry, using good pressure and paint and pull over technique. One last thing, don't work one area too long, keep moving and if it needs more come back later after everything dries. I did my best to explain in words but it is very hard, take a look at my course and if you can, give it a try, I think it will save you so many hours of frustration and hep you get great results: theartoflutherie.com/french-polishing/
@PeterOzanne
@PeterOzanne 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtOfLutherie Hi Tom, thanks for your quick reply. If I have the pad any drier, the blot will be no more than a pattern of dots: but I will try that. If I can't get any joy, I'll definitely get a month's worth on your course; maybe I'll do that anyway! All the best!
@PeterOzanne
@PeterOzanne 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtOfLutherie Hi Tom! I've experimented with using less and less: I've got the pad so dry that I can barely see a pattern of dots when I press it on the paper, but it still leaves very faint but clearly visible swirl-marks that often don't come out when I pull it straight, or with stiffing off. It's weird. Can you think of any other possible cause?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 5 жыл бұрын
@@PeterOzanne Well, you might be moving too slowly or overworking it. Even if the pad is nice an dry, if you overwork the area too much, it will still soften the surface under it and leave lint or marks. Try working each each section a little less per session and allow more dry time in between sessions. In case the surface is just soft, let it sit for a few days and see if when you come back its hardened up a bit and is more cooperative. Hope that gives you a few ideas and helps!
@PeterOzanne
@PeterOzanne 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheArtOfLutherie Thanks Tom: I'll check the speed, but I thought I was moving briskly. As for overworking: I learned to do straight passes, followed a few seconds (i.e.immediately) by quick spirals/8's moving the length of that area, then pulling straight again - that whole sequence lasting maybe little more than a minute for a quarter of the top or back. I then experimented leaving out the initial straight lines, and just did spirals and straight finish.
@seanwsim-steam7676
@seanwsim-steam7676 3 жыл бұрын
I’m currently French polishing my 2nd guitar (my 3rd build) and the last guitar I French polished ended up taking on the imprint of any material that it came into contact with. I chalked it up to bad / cheap shellac flakes. I purchased nicer shellac, and Now I’m French polishing my 3rd guitar and I’m currently bodying. I can tell this guitar is also going to have a soft finish and imprint like the previous one…any idea what could be causing this? I’ve asked around quite a bit and lots of experienced French polishers seem to be stumped as to why this could be occurring.
@MoGiMaL
@MoGiMaL Жыл бұрын
Firm pressure on your pad throughout the bodying to compact and harden the finish. Make sure you spirit off firmly. My first guitar was soft for a long time as well, maybe because I was using isopropyl? Sometimes they need to cure for a while. Eventually mine hardened up. I hope yours did too.
@joeyoungs8426
@joeyoungs8426 Жыл бұрын
I’ve experienced the same issue. I would agree that pressure in the spiriting off helps avoid this but man that process that can south pretty quick. Since I’ve not really mastered that part of the process to avoid a soft finish I just hang them up for a while. I also struggle with where the neck meets the body. I now understand the cost FP adds to an instrument.
@MoGiMaL
@MoGiMaL Жыл бұрын
@@joeyoungs8426 I’ve read about master French polishing using Eugene Clark using tons of pressure, from a couple different sources. I’m going to always end sessions with hard pressure, a mini spiriting. I’m always going to quit using walnut oil as a lubricant and use olive or mineral oil instead!
@mid-westmusic3472
@mid-westmusic3472 4 жыл бұрын
Should the shellac be waxless? Thanks.
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 4 жыл бұрын
I only use de-waxed shellac. You can buy de-waxed shellac or you can de-wax it yourself. ( I show my process in great detail in this course: theartoflutherie.com/french-polishing/ ) Without the wax, the shellac has better hardness and clarity in my experience. That being said some people do leave wax in, I haven't seen their work though so I can't say how well it works. The traditional method is to remove the wax though, which is what I have had best results with for my guitars.
@ronsommers3306
@ronsommers3306 6 жыл бұрын
What is the reason for 'pore filling' with pumice? Doesn't the pumice 'muddy' the grain?
@TheArtOfLutherie
@TheArtOfLutherie 6 жыл бұрын
Good question! Using pumice, when done properly will actually draw out the natural resins of the wood and result in a beautiful perfect color match and a clean smooth sealed surface for the top coats of finish. The key is to use the right technique! That's why I made this video :) I also have some free French Polish training videos you can check out over on my website here: theartoflutherie.com/french-polishing-technique-and-free-videos/
@cycadaacolyte6349
@cycadaacolyte6349 5 жыл бұрын
Beats drywall caulking any day (I cringe every time I see someone use that...)
@redbed1604
@redbed1604 3 жыл бұрын
Cocabolo aka Mexican Rosewood.
@richardwebb2348
@richardwebb2348 2 жыл бұрын
'Trick: a cunning or skillful act or scheme intended to deceive or outwit someone. Technique: a way of carrying out a particular task -would be a better description.
@henrypagan6657
@henrypagan6657 2 жыл бұрын
Cocobolo is oily shellac will work
@anthonyegan59
@anthonyegan59 3 жыл бұрын
A French polisher came into my house, I can tell you , I am worn out....
@heyou429
@heyou429 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly a pro, but I can't watch you interrupt yourself and never finish a sentence for 16 minutes
@Larry-Art179
@Larry-Art179 4 жыл бұрын
So I am five minutes in . He has not actually done anything except constantly promote some polishing site Dude you may mean well but get on with it and stop repeating your self .
@rolandosoto4545
@rolandosoto4545 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like he’s selling his course
@jbowerman50
@jbowerman50 4 жыл бұрын
Why do I see a tool mark that follows the shape of the sound hole? 6 min would've been plenty
@sylviakarinagerosa2583
@sylviakarinagerosa2583 5 жыл бұрын
Que manera de hablar y no trabaja.ja
@jokinmyass9446
@jokinmyass9446 3 жыл бұрын
Get to the point, Jesus.
@jonhall9831
@jonhall9831 5 жыл бұрын
Around 9:15 into your video, you actually said something that maybe you should ,seriously , try to remember before you totally lose everyone's attention. (If anyone was still listening) . You said and I quote," less talking and more action ." I really wanted to watch your video because I sincerely thought It would be informative and intellectual. But you lost me way before that was possible with the endless babble and repetitive sentences and points
@jonhall9831
@jonhall9831 5 жыл бұрын
Your video is really good btw if you could just cut down on the time and , well, I mentioned it already. And you mention some of the things I had a small problem with yourself quite a few times So self critiquing is one of your strongsuits apparently. If you could just follow through and make the adjustments I believe you could be a valuable piece of info on KZfaq in relation to guitar polishing
@Varvitski
@Varvitski 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with this comment. I stopped watching about a half a minute earlier. At the commencement of the video I was tempted to get the course that was mentioned, but this somewhat unfocused presentation has put me off.
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 8 ай бұрын
Failure To Get On With It. One of the worse cases of it on youtube. I'm out at less than 2 minutes. Don't tell us about hospitals and stuff.
@fredericpetitpas
@fredericpetitpas 4 жыл бұрын
Get to the fuckin point !!
@akmelshewumolo4876
@akmelshewumolo4876 3 жыл бұрын
You talk to match, nothing special you showed us.
@mamounawad4013
@mamounawad4013 5 жыл бұрын
too much talk for such a small activity ... few minutes would be sufficient
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