The Swedish Strv 74 you refered to was a 75mm gun in a turret that used armor sloping to compensate for armor thickness and complying with requirements determined by flatbed train car/tunnel width, and the turret ring size and weight restrictions of the, by then anemic Strv m/42 hull, drive train and suspension. The reds, in their contemporary T44s and IS-3s would have laughed themselves to death on seeing it if they had turned the cold war hot in the early-mid 50ies... Not long after the Strv 74 entered service, it was replaced by the far more competent Strv 81 (centurion mk3) followed by the Strv 101(Cent mk10) Strv 102 (upgraded Strv 81) and Strv 103 (S-tank). The centurions were further upgraded to Strv 104 and 105 while the Strv 103 was upgraded to B and C versions before both the S-tank and Centurions were phased out in the '90ies-'00s and replaced with Leopard 2A4s (Leased as Strv 121) and Strv122 (Leopard 2A5+ standard produced domestically under licence)

Oh, and the only American tank that's been purchased by the Swedish defence administration was a Sherman Firefly, for evaluation purposes, along with a King Tiger, the Sherman on display at the Swedish tank museum Arsenalen, and the latter litterally shot to slag by Bofors in the development of the Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle and other early cold war AT weapons once the non destructive evaluation was complete.

BAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEBLLLLLLLLAAAAADDDDEEEEE [i believe this is an actual line in a game i have seen to many memes on this] I have a feeling its not going to do good, just do to SHEER GIRTH though supposedly if i recall in lore those things are a pain in the god dam rear to destroy but idk the reasoning if its more armor or different type of armor. I don't think it has a void shield??? idk i subbed just to see that video.

Oh good, I was about to comment that I didn't really see much point in the Leman Russ when you can just get a Baneblade instead /laugh

Do I smell a "It takes 6 Predators to kill a Baneblade" myth coming on? 😂

This is neither fun or a fact.

@@glandhound It is true that it is mentioned in several books by different authors that the inside of a Leman Russ is cramped and difficult to breathe in after prolonged fighting, but I do not recall it being hated by the crews.

@@MizantropMan it was hated by its crew, the novel: Warhawk has this quote from a tank commander. And of all the possible tanks to be stuck in, a Leman Russ was probably the worst. People spoke of it as the Pride of the Imperium, the greatest battle tank in human history, the mainstay of the Great Crusade. Was it shit. A Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader - the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero. No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ - Kaska had always assumed it wasn’t actually the primarch of the VI - was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. And a front-mounted lascannon at least could keep firing as long as its power packs held a charge, which made running out of shells somewhat less of a disaster.

Pretty sure they took this uncomfortable interior idea from the british MK V from WW1, which it takes alot of it's design from. Checks out.

Baneblade is a 2 storey building on a track

Otherwise known as a 14 ft tall cluster munition. If the power pack goes up this thing will take out the enemy that's overrunning it fairly easily, at least if they were smart enough to not have allied infantry within about 25 or 30 ft of it.

@Andrew Wiggins Well assuming Leman Russ armour is made of the same stuff today's tanks.

@@leechowning2712 A lot of modern armor is also bolted on or riveted. Because how else you can mount it and then take it off as convenient? That being said they made up some high sci-fi BS to explain the bolted-on looks of the Mark V Heresy style power armor so mayhaps they use something similar on Imperial vehicles, as well.

Lol x)

What I found a little interesting is this video made me think about the cut away drawings of the Russ and the original cut way of the Leman Russ Demolisher from 2nd Ed doesn't have a loader at all instead a tube that could be an auto loader unfortunately the crease of the page it was printed on makes it a bit distorted but as a layout it makes a tad more bit of sense (even if it's a very old style cartooney bit of art)

Link meeeee

@@maddlarkin Yeah, there seems to be variants of the Russ both with and without auto-loaders. In reality, this is of course artist interpretation. In-universe, I expect it depends largely on which Forgeworld manufactured them. Most seem to have the human loader. Although it's fan-art, I think Grimskull's cut-away interpretation is probably one of the more reasonable ones.

@@wolfehoffmann2697 (okay this one got away from me, the TLDR is GW's 40k design philosphy radically shifted between 2nd and 3rd edition and that out of universe reason is more what shaped the Russ's spec's than the in-lore explanations and GreySkull's stuff is awesome) In this case I think it's more the out of universe explanation, the first cut away was done when the Russ released back in 2nd Ed, that's pre-Abnett and pre-Imerpial Armour and the Guard was a very different beast, it's really hard to express just how much Abnett's early books shaped the Imperial Guard as we know it, his depictions of the Guard in the Ghosts novels as a competent military with advanced tactics has such a huge impact, even the terms 40k specific terms like vox or auspex were first used there. GW re-wrote the 3rd codex (which was great as the previous Jervis codex had been shit) based on the Guard presented in the Sabbat Worlds. 3rd ed had a more grounded design philosohy, hence why squats disapearence and this lead to Imperial Armour books the nearest 40k ever came to a vehicle tech manual, but the guy making as was working in this more grounded (comparatively) setting he lifted the specs of Western MBT's probably an Abrams and applied them to the Russ, those specs just happened to include a loader (I mean the KPH speed is about the same as the MPH was listed on the Abrams at the time I'm pretty sure he just copied it across the number without noticing) In universe different patterns, eras and configurations all make perfect sense, especially as it's a Demolisher those shells are massive human loader would have issues, but I just think it's really intresting how the settings design philosophy effected thr configuration and listed specs of a vehicle over time (esp as ai don't remember any over races vehicles getting the same treatment) And absolutely GreySkull cutaways are the best depiction of the current accepted Russ specs, fanart or not, honestly every thing that guy does is amazing (I'm building a whole Warhawks army baed on one of his drawings)

The Vanq turret definitely looks the best. I put one on one of my two Russ's when I played more. Devastating and it looked awesome. On that same note you could kitbash a Chimera with some leftover Russ parts and it became a much more plausible loooking APC, as well. Moving the hull back slightly in the track pods.

They're still the space marine Predator

Storm blade shits on it

The BAAAAAAAAAAANE BLAAAAAAAAAAAAADE!

@@HighmageDerin Predator Tank isn't too complicated. They took Federation garbage transport and mini equipment and militarized it. The Imperium are basically orks against their own crippled society feedin' on the remnants of what was once a respectable human Galactic Nation. Which makes the Big E the Emperor King of the Techno Barbarians.

@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN meh, i follow The Greater Good anyways. I may be xenos scum, but atleast we have modern comforts and our Etherial Leaders dont expect us to commit sucide working in the metal smelter..... AS its smelting........

Considering that one of the last things the rogue AI did before being completely disconnected was to corrupt as much of the template designs as possible, and a shield generator would be one of those things that every human would turn on, I expect that at least part of the time the thing has a bad habit of turning the tank into a microwave. Between the actual Spirit component of the warp and the rogue AI issues they had during the collapse, almost every weapon has a instant fail mode. It's what keeps them from ever getting anywhere.

I'm guessing it doesn't actually work or not worth the resources to make it work

@@AbyssWatcher745 but its still there....imagine the rogue AI's glee wasting extra resources to produce a non functioning but fully built shield generator

@@someguyontheinternet1093 at this point the 3D files are just black boxes, nobody has the faintest idea what actually is in them.

The GW writing staff suck rather badly at internal consistency, but the Imperium does have shield tech, vehicle power fields are rare and expensive but not unknown, so a tech-priest would know what he was looking at if he inspected it, only rational explanation I can conjure for such an incident is the tank was misappropriated by some administratum imbecile, to a crew that did in fact not know it was equipped with one, and possibly some general elsewhere wondering where the hell the top-tier tank he requisitioned went.

Im currently editing the baneblade video

Most Imperial vehicles are colonial transports someone stuck some guns on.

Yep, that was how the developers presented the 'Russ originally. It was an excavator (think Caterpillar --> Bob Semple tank), a design available in the STC-colony-startup pack. The reason it's still around, is that the real tanks were (supposedly) crammed full of forbidden technology (think AI) and hence unavailable. Also, the completely moronic ban on actual technological development prohibits the evolution of anything even remotely looking like a real tank. As for the Baneblade-series tanks, it seems that the original patterns have gradually taken on a more gothic appearance. Just compare the current plastic kits to the first resin-kits made available by Forge-world (they are long-since discontinued). Those early designs looked high-tech and modern.

The Baneblade was, according to some source, the -don't laugh- _light scout tank_ of the Dark Age. Which is stupid from many angles, but 40k.

funnily enough in the dark age, current Terminator power armor was "suitable for mining purposes and not rated for combat", makes you wonder bout the baneblade/leman russ tanks

the imperium of man does not value human life

@@wafflestcattash4818 like does it even matter in Warhammer 40k? Shit always happen

They are blessed rivets.

Fortunately, "survival" is not a concept that the Astra Militarum cares about.

Honestly, I wouldn't be as concerned about that since many of the anti-armour weapons the Guard face off against are energy weapons. If you're an infantryman accompanying the tanks though.... then worry about it, because one really good ammo cook-off is going to turn that Russ into a clusterbomb.

For the Emperor!

I think you missed the salient point.

Yes

Why do they name tanks after melee weapons anyway? In a way, I half expect one to actually be mounting one, but as far as I know, they don't.

@@leslieandrews9208 they have a commisar in the turret with a sword, and he wants you to drive him closer.

The size & make up of a Banenlade (even a standard one) depends entirely on who is writing the book. Sometimes it's a massive tank with 11 barrels of hell, other times it's a multi-story building sized behemoth with 36 barrels of Feth You. Then on top of that there are the variants, because the Guard can't have a proper milti-role heavy/super-heavy tank. No, they have to have mostly specialist variants that are skewed to take on one or two types of enemy units.

I think its much more likely that the russ would have its tracks destroyed than it slipping, atleast based on how the model goes together

The one thing that really bothers me about the Leman Russ is the top view, where the tank commander's hatch is positioned right above or just slightly behind where the breech of the main gun should be. The amount of faith that this would require in the Adeptus Mechanicus to ensure that the gun isn't going to recoil into the tank commander's groin would be significant, as well as the ergonomics of reloading the cannon with the tank commander in the way. Offsetting the commander's hatch to one side or the other would make more sense from a design perspective; unfortunately, with the design being functionally holy writ, there's essentially no chance that such a change would ever happen without some sort of divine revelation.

Chant the Linty of End Connectors. May your BII have still the grease gun in thy sponson box.

@@seanmalloy7249 lol. I wonder how many commanders have been cut off mid battle cry/speech when their tank fires the first shot and see their commander crumple over the front of the tank. Probably hearing a choked whimper through the Vox

@@seanmalloy7249 oh but I enjoy feeling the power between my legs... And yes what I would do is simply extend a shroud through the entire commanders deck, and he rides the thing like a pony.

40k is surprisingly good at the yeah close enough with the practically of most of the imperial tech other than scale

I do imagine if they put proper proportioned pieces on the models, painters everywhere might just finally say eff it lol.

@@atankersview As someone with a lot of Leman Russ's in various stages of construction and painting I can confirm this is correct 😀

You have to remember that Warhammer models are made to so called "heroic scale", where certian things like heads, hands and weapons are enlarged for better details. Some of this design choice is also affecting the vehicles.

Here's one tanker's opinion- most BattleTech tanks are damn silly too. The Manticore is a favorite of mine though.

My other channel is the only channel on youtube the covers bolos.

@@atankersview Ah, so as I suspected, you are a truly civilized Human Being then.😁

I think that just jumps to the next level of absurdity which are Titans

He was in Vietnam, im familiar with his works. Been years since ive read them though

Also helps to remember some or maybe many of the Imperiums manufacturing worlds are stuck trying to get out of the medieval ages. You just have to look at all that riveted armor (most countries on Earth used welded armor by WW2) to realize it's really about what Humanity can make with limited advancement and indeed, purposely regressed advancement (probably no coincidence the Mechancius keeps a lid on all new tech being developed and retains their monopoly as infinitum)

@Dustin Jones there is little to no difference for the general layout design, what technology to use for bringing armor in the shape of tank: you can cast whole tank hull if your level of technological culture allows that (and you know what you are doing), you can weld together lists of afmour, you can fix them with rivets. In the end, it doesn't matter for the shape and doesn't explain in the slightest why "repurposed colonial buldozer chassis" (most of standard technological templates, Mechanicus tend to hunt, are NOT for military use - for example space marine terminator armour is the former civilian exosceleton-hazmat suit of the Dark age of Technology) uses the most inefficient for that purpose chassis base of British "marks". It is equally bad for a combat vehicle just as for civilian chassis.

That was Siegfried. Leman Russ was purely a Battle Tank

I thought the land raider was originally a tractor. At least if i remember that line in master of mankind correctly

@@atankersview Land Raider was purely a Combat Vehicle. For Space Marines, it's essentially what M2 Bradley or BMP is to us

@@atankersview I could be wrong it's been a moment since I have read the book that explains it.

@@pixythegunner ah right my bad.

I'd love to hear his thoughts on the Dorn too. The first time I looked at that thing, I was like "Where the fuck does all the ammo go?" because there's 4-5 different kind of kinetic weapons systems to supply ammo for depending on variant of the tank. It's a quartermaster's nightmare. GW needs to learn that not everything needs to have heavy stubbers all over it. Laser weapons, especially multi-lasers, are okay too, and arguably make more sense.

@@wolfehoffmann2697 True. 40 rounds for the main cannon and then every other weapon being a laser would be far more effective and realistic to crew. As it stands the crew probably wraps the ammo around themselves.

So long as the tech adept does his one fucking job correctly yes.

That and also cover maybe some BattleMechs too

I know people hate on the Mako but I honestly had a lot of fun playing in that thing. And I really appreciated the lore reasons for how weapons functioned in ME1, it's a shame they threw that out for the sequels. Like, we've solved the ammo problem of combat, now let's just bring it back.

The Mako is the answer to "What if we made a Styker that has jump jets and handles like a tipsy ballerina?"

Got to respect anything able to point twin ac20's at someone. That's enough to wipe many mechs out in a single salvo, though it only really counts in a city where the range isnt an issue. Which is why there are ppc carriers, i guess.

@@silvercat18 It's the Urbie, but heavier and significantly funnier. Though, that doesn't mean I'm not scared even in 3150 of two AC/20 shots outta one vehicle

Tanks a lot.

Giver hell and dont let anyone tell you no!

Oh, these would be fun ones. Especially the M61/Type 61. The tank that was designed to fight under very advanced modern conditions, satellite uplinks, constant battlefield awareness, an incredible amount of automation that made it almost feasible for one man to both command the tank and serve as gunner and communications (Personally I still think the TC is overworked though.) but thanks to the Minovsky particle/waste radiation from Zeon's microfusion reactors and the destruction of the satellite network in orbit after Zeon captured half of the moon, was forced to fight under the same kind of conditions that a 1960s era tanker would expect to deal with. At least the laser range finder still worked, and the 155mm guns were still sufficient for punching most Zeon mobile suit armor, and they did fix the crew workload issue later in the war by adding a third crewman. The Magella is an absurd design, but the Zeon did have other tank designs. A light airborne tank called the Magella Eins, and there's photos around of the another tank called an M1. I don't read Japanese so I don't know the name of it. But it's on the same general hull as the Magella, but it has a more reasonable sloped front and traditional turret arrangement with a missile launcher attached to the side. There seems to be a variant of it as well with a shorter main gun and coaxial machine-gun. I'll see if I can post photo links.

And there's the prototype Magella and another variant. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708959061902622741/1029407254966960159/mobilesuitvariation3_168.png

Its on the list right after i do the merkava. The baneblade will up in about. 2- 2.5 weeks.

appearintly it is canonical, but the art , models etc. are all done in "epic" scale to accent the ridiculousness. of which i totally approve of. its charming.

I'd like to see a drone version of the S-tank with flotation pods instead of screens and an Air independant powerpack instead of the turbine/internal combustion engine it had in service.

I dunno... It has more weapon coverage and angles than the modern tanks, plus dunno if its armor is stronger than what we use now... Plus these tanks can plow through buildings and not care... Plus from what I can tell... Easier assembly and not as many finely made parts.

Phew im not the only one

Excellent point. I hadn't considered that.

@@atankersview Yup! Even though a fan vid, you actually see the practicality shown in the SODAZ Krieg vid you had in the background playing in this vid! The Russ' in that were more than tall enough to easily fire over the Dark Angel's that were with them, who were of course fighting in front of the tanks exactly like they do in lore. Even more than that, the side sponson heavy bolters are even high enough up to fire over the head of the standard guardsman, nearly enough to fire over the Dark Angel that was fighting next to one of the sponsons in one of the scenes. That's what the Russ is designed to do, just pure simple get the job done and easy to mass produce. You can fight with those things, around them, next to them, under them, whatever you want, the Russ don't give a damn either way lol, it is unleashing its firepower on the enemies of the emperor without issue in any case! It's one of the funny things about the imperium when it comes to their aesthetics. Yeah they have the whole neo gothic / WW1 imperial industrial aesthetic for most things, but, when you really dive head first into the endless abyss that is the lore, but in a funny way counting in the technological regression, imperial equipment tends to be actually pretty well practical in just a raw "just get the job done" kind of sense. Hell, look at the humble lasgun, those things you can literally recharge the mags by just throwing the things into a campfire and leaving them there overnight, hard to get more practical than all you need is some kind of fire to recharge your ammo and keep fighting LOL. That's the great thing about 40k, no matter how crazy, completely over the top and way over the edge it is, in its own very funny way it still all kinda goes together and makes sense lol, that's what makes it so fun!

As soon as the models released im going to do a follow up