A 'Value' Tour de France Bike? AG2R’s Van Rysel RCR
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Күн бұрынThe world’s largest sporting retailer, Decathlon, is back as the co-sponsor of a WorldTour cycling team for the first time since 2006.
Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale has new bikes in the form of Van Rysel’s RCR Pro. The Dura-Ace Di2 build, with Swiss Side wheels, is set to cost £8,500, placing it at the more affordable end of the WorldTour race bike spectrum.
In this video, we take a look at the team’s 2024 build in a very cold car park in Lille.
#cycling #bike #decathlon
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:14 First Look
00:43 Price
01:05 Frame Details
02:54 Wheels
03:38 Groupset
04:52 Cockpit
05:13 TT Bike
08:10 Outro
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@bikeradar 8 ай бұрын
What do you think? Will you be shelling out for a Tour de France level bike? Let us know in the comments! 👇
@allenjay896 8 ай бұрын
Budget? Affordable? Yall should study economics… and maybe read a dictionary.
@ciaranhickey5904 8 ай бұрын
Budget 😂😂😂😂
@EmmanuelNataf 8 ай бұрын
Just because it's not horribly overpriced doesn't mean you should insult them by calling it a "budget" bike…
@justinw9760 8 ай бұрын
Seriously, 8.5k is "affordable"? What planet are you living on? One might think you have vested interest. Tell me I'm not wrong
@danijelcar9297 8 ай бұрын
Anyway, your reviews are not realistic. You are the Specialized club newspaper anyway
@HybrisParExcellence 8 ай бұрын
Love that Twingo in the background. Great addition to the composition of the shot.
@purpleaki7135 8 ай бұрын
@HybrisParExcellence We live in modern times.
@roadracermark7946 8 ай бұрын
Probably cheaper than the bike.
@benoitbvg2888 8 ай бұрын
@@roadracermark7946 You can buy 3 twingos for that bike.
@Pshady 8 ай бұрын
First gen Twingo’s are going to be such collector items in the future.
@edjack1993 8 ай бұрын
Range-topping bike prices are insane.
@Macm73 8 ай бұрын
Obscene is a word that comes to my mind.
@martijnprinzen7124 8 ай бұрын
Calling a bike of nearly 10K affordable is insanity. When you look at all these parts, there's nothing special about them. They could probably sell this at 3K and still make a profit.
@tomaszdziekonski8563 7 ай бұрын
Kroja ludzi jak moga, marzenia kosztuja a ty wypruwaj zyly bo masz jedno zycie, albo chcesz to albo nie..@@martijnprinzen7124
@arne_mh 6 ай бұрын
@@martijnprinzen7124 top of the range everything dude, dura-ace di2, loads of development. Maybe just the culmination of all of the parts for 3k. But you have to keep other costs like manual labor (loads of it for carbon frames), distribution marketing, ... in mind. 3k is delusional
@adrianm4915 8 ай бұрын
So..when 8500 became "budget" ?
@domoel 2 ай бұрын
This! It's insane!
@gauravs4564 8 ай бұрын
We in India will surely be cheering for Decathlon🤩
@kovar2344 8 ай бұрын
rip the brown shorts, what a classic look. Gonna miss em tbh.
@vanakes 7 ай бұрын
North of €10k. Yeah real big affordable bike mate.
@matthewlewis2072 7 ай бұрын
Compared to a similar spec Trek...
@Bonky-wonky 8 ай бұрын
Usually the big caveat of decathlon premium products is availability. Their titanium gravelbike looks great but is rare as hen’s teeth..seems like they make a limited run of premium products that are sold at a bargain just to establish their name, then rake in the money from their more affordable bikes. Great strategy, I just think the cycling world deserves world level bikes at somewhat affordable prices.
@reecedawson6113 8 ай бұрын
I love it, can't wait to see it in my local decathlon
@robertsamuel1994 8 ай бұрын
people wondering about how this price is possible: Decathlon almost has no profit margin on its bikes. It doesn't have to, they sell so much other stuff. You come in for the bike, you leave with a bike + bottle cages, cycling clothes, tools, lube, degreaser, new winter gloves, etc. About the bike: I was fortunate to build one. feels super solid.
@yonglingng5640 8 ай бұрын
Is it compatible with mechanical groupsets? If it is, a full-length shift housing needs to be used for the front derailleur, right? Is the BB standard BB86?
@whateverbikes 8 ай бұрын
As a former Decathlon employee, team leader of the bicycle department, I can confirm that to be true. Almost zero margin, but sold with advice and setup in the shop, and a very good warranty, all with the goal that customers are happy about their bike and the whole experience, and buy (and come back to buy more) extra stuff, that have bigger margins.
@nelsonsilva6842 8 ай бұрын
Amazing and 1 more reason to see the tour!
@ballsdeepinglory3054 8 ай бұрын
Many people complaining about the affordability. Affordable is relative, for anyone who needs a superbike, but doesn't want to break the bank, this is the affordable option compared to the competition out there. Just like an 'affordable' supercar is quite a paradox, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You have to compare it within in it's own category...
@fastestmilkman3840 8 ай бұрын
It is a bike, not a car, with fewer components and R&D. I'm in the industry and I know how much it costs to make one, so companies can still make it affordable and still have a good margin. They are just greedy.
@TheLimeCurd 8 ай бұрын
I agree. It's always a mystery to me why people don't whine about the price & fact that they cannot afford a Ferrari, but complain about how expensive a top tier bicycles. You cannot afford everything and you don't have to own everything.
@yukiko_5051 8 ай бұрын
@@fastestmilkman3840They're greedy because people are still buying their products. If people stop buying stupidly expensive bikes, they will be forced to lower the prices unless they love having overfilled inventory
@ballsdeepinglory3054 8 ай бұрын
@@fastestmilkman3840 What do you do in the industry ? I'm pretty sure it's not just company greed. Road bikes aren't produced in very high numbers and need an overhaul every 3-4 years, and almost all of the components, bar the frame, are sourced from third parties. They take their cut, the dealer takes their cut,... R&D, design, branding, marketing,... It's a small wonder Van Rysel is able to bring this bike down to that price point if you ask me. I'm not talking out of my ass, I'm an industrial designer and I'm well aware what the cost of bringing a product to market is.
@Thezuule1 8 ай бұрын
@@TheLimeCurd comparing the components and R&D of a Ferrari and a bicycle is a bit nonsense. The fact you can buy a motorcycle, with exponentially more parts of far higher complexity, for less than the cost of a bicycle says all you need to know about the bicycle industry.
@MrKaktuskopf 8 ай бұрын
Please pronounce AG2R like it is supposed to. Otherwise, great bike, great presentation. As a former Decathlon employee I am very exited for them to take that step into pro cycling. Cheers
@psnSupergrobi10 8 ай бұрын
Imagine buying the Shimano Powermeter xD
@dakalla 8 ай бұрын
yeah.. they wouldn't buy it. It must be sponsored maybe partly. Its expensive and unreliable.
@krempixxx 8 ай бұрын
@@dakalla he said they bought it but i dont know why would anyone do that
@Simte 8 ай бұрын
I've heard they are great... For adding weight to your bike to be in UCI limits. 🤣
@Totorka1 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful 😍
@whynotride327 8 ай бұрын
Two points to be made; Anyone who thinks $8500 for a bicycle is "budget" is not paying for their bike Why on earth would they use a Shimano power meter?? They are very well known for being inaccurate.
@KILLTHEREDDITOR 8 ай бұрын
Anyone who has to buy this bike with their own money doesn’t deserve it anyway
@therainbowgulag. 8 ай бұрын
£ not $
@rob-c. 8 ай бұрын
@@KILLTHEREDDITOR*People aren’t allowed to buy nice things with their own money
@ianiscaratti4924 8 ай бұрын
A friend tried stages and went back to shimano. He told me shimano is allways off the same amount and you can just do math but stages is changing the accuracy what made it impossible to use for him.
@whynotride327 8 ай бұрын
@@ianiscaratti4924 I agree with that point as well. I have two Stages meters that vary all over the place. One was sent back to Stages for calibration/adjustment but was no better when it came back. I have given up on both of them. My question still is, why should you pay that kind on money to "do the math"?
@indiebikes 8 ай бұрын
There are 2 sizes for Dura Ace 12 speed cassettes and 11-32 isn’t one of them! The BB on this frame looks nothing like my SL7, thank heavens!! Colour combo looks nice thou, so that’s something.
@carlobalzer3238 8 ай бұрын
What a beauty my dream bike ❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🤤🤤🤤
@greenbee001 8 ай бұрын
It is more aero than tarmac sl8 with 207 watt in Tour Magazine
@Rich_Mitch_Creative 8 ай бұрын
Can we get a closer look at the Twingo? 😂
@Xhadp 8 ай бұрын
Cool look! I’d say it would be really cool to see this in comparison to what it looks like in the middle of the year like say the TDF bike.
@JFomo 8 ай бұрын
Looks very cool. I'd choose it over a Merida.
@basengelblik5199 8 ай бұрын
It probably is a Merida, like Specialized is.
@SonnyDarvishzadeh 8 ай бұрын
I have the EDR CF 105, for 2 grand, it's a decent bike. The frame is quite lightweight (around 900g I think)
@Arthur-ns4yh 8 ай бұрын
Best bike I ever owned imo. Cost almost nothing, great for sportive, bikepacking....
@neilzhang1514 8 ай бұрын
Mine is EDR AF105, a kilo heavier, but 1k cheaper😊
@colin1780 8 ай бұрын
As someone who works at an specialized, cannondale and bianchi dealer. It's absolutely insane to have that low of a weight with that much surface area of carbon. I'm also assuming they're not using the best grades of carbon in the world. Makes me wonder how they're able to pull it off. I do love what Decathlon does here though! It looks like a 10k+ bike
@basvanleeuwen4502 8 ай бұрын
How do you mean not the best grades of carbon? to get the weight this low you have to use them. Also If you now the mark up on bikes like a Specialized, Trek, Koga or Cannondale. You know yhey do not have to be this expensive. I do agree that decathlon disrupted the market with this. Seen a few of them in real live. They are neat looking bicycles.
@colin1780 8 ай бұрын
@@basvanleeuwen4502 the very best grades of carbon are extremely limited and only a few brands are able to make use of it (or so i've heard, you never truly know as an outsider). It's the stuff that a s-works, lab71 or a canyon cfr frame is made off. Don't get me wrong i'm loving the decathlon bike, but i'd like an engineering explaination of how they are able to pull it off. Hopefully not just making the frame extremely thin and risking ride quality. I've also worked at Decathlon for two years and yes, of first sight it's quite logical. But usually these project get crazy expensive because of development. I'm genuinly thinking Decathlon will lose money by the end of it. Great marketing though
@Onigure 8 ай бұрын
How they got this cheap? PROFIT MARGINS
@fastestmilkman3840 8 ай бұрын
As someone who visited the factories that made the bikes, it is called margins, massive margins.
@Gianniz27 8 ай бұрын
What are u talking about. RCR frame weight is 900 gramms, so nothing spectacular, just decent. What spectacular is, it tests as fast as a Supersix in the windtunnel, and faster then SL7, SL8, Dogma at 207 watts, all tested by Tour Mag.
@nizam_mr 8 ай бұрын
im interested in the TT bike.. if it can compete with Canyon pricing, and give you that Deda cockpit through all its tier specs, thats a bargain. Cockpit like that is expensive
@Welovethenineties 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful bike with the great Dura Ace group. How quickly and smoothly it shifts
@bbradleyism 8 ай бұрын
So long my beloved Campagnolo. Hopefully another team will pick them up.
@matthewlewis2072 7 ай бұрын
Not if they have to pay for it, they won't
@glloq126 8 ай бұрын
nice bike
@oliverbergen6505 8 ай бұрын
It looks great...we will how fast it is...
@jamessankey01 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to miss the brown shorts. For years, I thought, why? But then I realised they are, in fact, darn cool. Too bad.
@speedeiro 8 ай бұрын
They are correct!! There is no shortage of options and quality equipment around the world! Maybe they opened a door, for big changes
@Formolopainface 8 ай бұрын
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
@wraith8323 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@LightBranches 8 ай бұрын
Cool bike, but what about that OG Renault Twingo...délicieux!
@lordalfa600 8 ай бұрын
Affordable will be 30% off most bigger brands.
@suhdud4646 8 ай бұрын
Those snobs are probably choking on their baguettes watching this and further insult to injury, a btwin folding bike featured at the F1 being ridden by driver Nico Hulkenberg at the most glamours event - Monaco. Its great to see a brand come in and ruffle a few feathers.
@sirbrochill7757 8 ай бұрын
spits out crossant***
@Epiqe 8 ай бұрын
Affordable is around 1.000-2.000k. Anything above 5k is a joke. Expensive more than a car?!? Cmon bike companys.
@matthewlewis2072 7 ай бұрын
What cars do you know cost £8500 new???
@Morten_Nielsen1979 8 ай бұрын
Finally a decent bicycle I can afford. 😂
@hankbluebullr4661 8 ай бұрын
I think Van Rysel actually sell bikes at what should be a very fair price for what you get, so many of the top brands are really pushing the boundaries in terms of technology yeah but pricing too, to a point where i question if it does even make sense. I’ve had a van rysel for almost two years now and i must say that it’s a very very great bike, im absolutely loving it and i got it for a barging considering it’s full ultegra spect!
@wsbygt 8 ай бұрын
Look ready to win stages.
@craigpavia8943 8 ай бұрын
Looks like the SL8? Looks like the Cannondale, BMC, Canyon...ALL of them. 1000 series carbon...with a different paint job and a lower margin.
@matthewlewis2072 7 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, steel race bikes from the 70s-90s all looked sooo different
@lukepowell1201 8 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting price for the SRAM Force build on the RCR Pro. I'm just curious if they're going to get around to selling them to the United States, or if there will be a good price on a frame only option.
@Richard-qe7st 8 ай бұрын
But any cheaper than a Giant Propel? The full Jayco setup is AUD14k, but even better value is the level down (Ultegra, Giant SLR50 wheels) at AUD8k. There’s nothing else that touches it at about 7.5kgs. Weirdly pricing seems higher in other regions though.
@lukepowell1201 8 ай бұрын
@@Richard-qe7st While I like the propel the Van Rysel is MUCH cheaper. At least in the U.S. pricing is not comparable (although the RCR isn't available in the U.S. yet). I can't speak for Australia. In particular pricing as you go down for the propel is for the Adavanced Pro, which is NOT the same grade of carbon as the Propel Advanced SL. The Van Rysel RCR Pro I'm referencing with Ultegra Di2 is still their top grade carbon and lighter than the regular RCR. Decathlon has it priced at about 5,500 Euros, or about $6,000 usd. Still $2,000 cheapers than the Propel advanced pro (Heavier than the Advanced SL) with SRAM Force.
@sirspankalottt 8 ай бұрын
Check out Cube. The Litening Air costs around 5,3k in Europe with ultegra, it weighs around 7kg and is a really nice bike to ride.
@mettflow2648 4 ай бұрын
@@lukepowell1201enjoy the tariffs… in the us the van rysel is not gonna cost anywhere near what it costs in europe
@Carftymk 8 ай бұрын
i may be mistaken but i think teams in the past have been sponsored by shimano only for drivetrains but not pedals. it is not an indicator that they are sponsored
@dakalla 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! No team in their right mind would buy shimano powermeters.
@rob-c. 8 ай бұрын
Lots of riders use their own pedals for preference too
@johnnyboy4711 8 ай бұрын
price on TT frame when you get it plz!
@colinmackintosh1543 8 ай бұрын
Chunky!
@JHBEM 8 ай бұрын
Let’s say “Least Expensive” rather than “Most Affordable”
@champ2237 Ай бұрын
Have a drink every time he says "chunky"
@chevyyyyyyy 4 ай бұрын
Its profile resembles the excellent Ciöcc Blade.
@czts4778 5 ай бұрын
This bike is faster than the Sl8 according to Tour magazine. Require 207 watts compare to 209 for sl8.
@gc641 8 ай бұрын
I’ll take 2 please 😂😂😂
@klx-y 7 ай бұрын
For 8,500£ you can have a Canyon CFR Mathiew van der Poel model I like this bike looks cool but I'll have the Canyon Aero Road instead
@mettflow2648 4 ай бұрын
9500 bruv
@cadumgarcia 8 ай бұрын
Prices are dropping, Van Rysel needs to start cutting
@asams7255 8 ай бұрын
8.5k? What a bargain I’m already on the way to decathlon
@willardSpirit 8 ай бұрын
It's affordable in... loan installments plus interest!
@oliverpaul5123 Ай бұрын
What Brand/Model are the bottle cages?
@orlandopiper3214 8 ай бұрын
Did a double-take: "Budget TDF bike".... "at £8500..." Come on BikeRadar, you're supposed to be the only channel talking sense
@matthewlewis2072 7 ай бұрын
It's "budget" compared to what Penisrello charge for a similar spec
@DCRUZ547 8 ай бұрын
Actually, it resembles the LOOK 795 Blade
@patrick.nogdallanogdalla2388 8 ай бұрын
Is this really true 11-32 12 speed shimano casette hmmm🤔 If that true i hope we can buy that soon🙏🏽
@Anihalas 8 ай бұрын
Oh no not the brown shorts!
@jaredgrubbs4009 8 ай бұрын
You can buy a brand new TCR Advanced SL with Dura Ace Di2 for $1000 less than this.
@cipo36an203 8 ай бұрын
Probably a special deal giant is offering it by 11800 on a bike that is an aerodynamic brick (but rides nice)
@samsfk4877 8 ай бұрын
FeelsBadMan no brown shorts
@littlemrdrummer 8 ай бұрын
I'm just happy they're done with the brown shorts...yikes... Don't care if they look like Sky....
@contactkrit 8 ай бұрын
Why downgrade from Campagnolo to recalled Shimano.
@dhanushsatyanarayan3463 8 ай бұрын
How the hell is that price tag affordable 😂😂😂
@HeavyDragoon 4 ай бұрын
Goes to show what a "mark up" many brands are making.
@Krooks44 8 ай бұрын
Affordable??? 😂 Its a beauty no doubt but I say any bike over $2000 is not affordable for most people.
@anakinkenobi1044 8 ай бұрын
Everyone can put more than 2000 in a bike if its your main sport. Just need to review your priorities
@thebudgetcyclist4310 8 ай бұрын
This could’ve been a 4 minute video
@mettflow2648 4 ай бұрын
Could have been an email
@leoguilfoyle8852 8 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the TT frame is from ali express
@ziodonnie 8 ай бұрын
You can buy 3 or possibly more Renault twingos (like the one in the background) for the price of this. Affordable? LOL.
@epicoverfifty9745 8 ай бұрын
Shimano power meters need to be binned
@nizamzainalabidin9962 Ай бұрын
6.82kg,what is the bike size
@natural9743 8 ай бұрын
Wow how many aluminium cans do I have to get
@vongdong10 8 ай бұрын
You've lost your mind if you call that affordable...
@hugobrown2516 8 ай бұрын
should be 11-34 not 32???
@ibrahimseck8520 8 ай бұрын
We need a brand new manufacturer to disrupt the market...Bike manufacturers are acting like a cartel keeping prices artificially high. 10k is not affordable, they could probably sell it for 3k and make good profit
@florianbusch3082 8 ай бұрын
I'm confused that with all the reports about how shitty Shimanos Powermeter are and them only getting worse, so many world tour teams still use them. Like what the hell?
@matthewlewis2072 7 ай бұрын
Because. They. Are. Paid. To.
@mettflow2648 4 ай бұрын
They have to have them, actually shitmano deserves a class action for that shit wattmeter
@BTcycle 8 ай бұрын
More affordable bikes the better for everyday riders but still too expensive.
@veganpotterthevegan 8 ай бұрын
When is the cheaper bike better unless it's all you can afford?
@matyastorok-illyes4733 4 ай бұрын
pricing doesnt matter when dechatlon isnt capable to make more than 5 units, it is sold out everywhere...
@maxt1617 8 ай бұрын
Can't believe Ag2r will no longer be wearing brown shorts. Couldn't you have broken the news a little gentler?
@carlosdeno 3 ай бұрын
Not one bike over 4K is worth it and anyone who pays 8-12K on a bicycle needs their head looking at. Those that know, know. Source your own frame, components and build something yourself. You’ll save a big lump of money, enjoy doing it and hopefully love what you’ve created. I’ve done it six times, how a frame, groupset, bars, stem, seat post, saddle and wheels adds up to over 8K is beyond me. The reason the bike industry is on its arse!
@telkmx 2 ай бұрын
I mean just building their rival axs bike with the same part sourced new would could around 4000-4200€ without the insurance and they sell it for 4200€ but its insured soo lol I've tried calculating the cost with a winspace t1550 which is a less good frame without much insurance while the rcr has a 5 year warranty on the frame and stem i think
8 ай бұрын
shimano power meters are wrong 😊
@anggerocx 8 ай бұрын
Because it's a black blue color it's a sky team color. Because it's a blue white jersey it's israel tech team. Because it's have a drop seatstay it's a tarmac sl7. Content writers no longer have the creativity to review bicycles from Van Rysel. maybe if there's is a new bike brand in the market have a wheel they will say it's look like a tarmac sl8
@peterghimme9661 8 ай бұрын
It is not a budget bike. Common makers e.g. Specialized, Cannondales price tag is literally gone mad.
@Mxtthxy 8 ай бұрын
What happened to the initial bike they teased, matte Black, kitted in Force AXS, tan walls & a rumoured £4.5k price tag?! That showed promise of Affordable super bike!
@eto2352 8 ай бұрын
This is the AG2R team bike with full sponsor equipment. They will have various price specs when they sell of course.
@Mxtthxy 8 ай бұрын
Missed My point chap/chappette I’m well aware what this is, the one they originally teased is the real affordable super bike at €4800 not this at £8500, it’s practically the same bike.
@grant_dubs 8 ай бұрын
you mean sram rival? that’s still an available model. idk what “initial bike tease” you’re thinking of with sram because ag2r just went from campy to shimano
@christianhandel9361 8 ай бұрын
@@MxtthxyWill be available beginning of next year. Equipped with Sram Force und Zipp404 Firecrest for 4800€.
@motojn96 8 ай бұрын
This is the top spec, the Force AXS one is one of the spec available at 4800€ (in Italy)
@endtimeslips4660 8 ай бұрын
Decathlon Giant propel. it look like propel.
@joowwwllllll666 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Gall has to ride with this. Hope he can still win some stages at the Tour.
@Jin.Sensei 8 ай бұрын
Nah... Why would I buy this when you could get a Cube Litening AERO C:68X SLT
@FameSniping 8 ай бұрын
Looks boring and was expecting a lot more for the price. Sorry but I'd rather get a Canyon with some resell value and market in the future. Van Rysel has no brand image that people will be willing to pay for in the future.
@astrayagrarian 8 ай бұрын
The brown shorts were so good. Disc brakes are still cringe. Another mass produced carbon frame with a cliché silhouette. Cringe. Internal cables. Cringe. This bike would look decent with rim brakes and a custom paint job.
@katzer3537 8 ай бұрын
This doesn't look at all like a SL7. It looks generic just like most modern bikes...
@marcvb3364 8 ай бұрын
The SL7 also looks as generic as all the other bikes lol
@TheLimeCurd 8 ай бұрын
To me this bike is like Toyota. It can check all the boxes but I don't want it. + it's not even cheap.
@lichray 8 ай бұрын
€8500 is only the consumer configuration. No 3D-printed saddle, ZIPP wheels, no integrated handlebar. Not more attractive than US brands.
@therainbowgulag. 8 ай бұрын
You know cycling is finished when a presenter says £8500 is an affordable bike
@mctrials23 8 ай бұрын
*affordable TdF grade bike. Considering most of the others of this level are £12k+, it is.
@itaybruck9671 8 ай бұрын
I feel sorry for Ag2r riders who need to ride it instead of the BMC bikes...
@dakalla 8 ай бұрын
at least they got rid of the brown bibs.
@weddallenko 8 ай бұрын
£8500 = Budget / Affordable… lol
@matthewlewis2072 7 ай бұрын
Looks like a Ribble
@robertchandler587 8 ай бұрын
For the same price you can now get a sworks tarmac sl7…I know which I’d rather
@cipo36an203 8 ай бұрын
You won’t have the same equipment and… even if marginally it is faster than the sl7
@travispyle2905 8 ай бұрын
$10K budget bike... Did someone pay you to say that?
@livibam 8 ай бұрын
I could never ride a bike that says Van Rysel on it..
@ozmon2118 7 ай бұрын
Yes maybe because you need to ride a “S(tupid)-Works” ?
@RolandBechtel 8 ай бұрын
Juice
@phossil3302 8 ай бұрын
People confuse "cheap" and "a lot of money", well let's say a Ferrari for 10 grand, that's still a lot of money, but that's cheap. Same here, as cheap is relative, for a insanely engineered product like this with all those great specs, 8k5 is cheap but remains to be a lot of money for many.
@gokaygs 8 ай бұрын
By ‘insanely engineered’ did you mean choosing an open mold carbon frame from a Chinese manufacturer?
@phossil3302 8 ай бұрын
@@gokaygs taiwanese* but yeah sounds great 👍
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