I just found out that Starmer’s dad was indeed a toolmaker but the bit Starmer doesn’t mention is that his dad owned the factory! Funny that he doesn’t brag about that! To busy pretending his father was a working class factory worker… what a fraud!

Not just that, dont forget that they would also be able to claim VAT back for purchases, so the figure of 20% would actually be less. Source - A friend of mine is an accountant for private schools

@@b-ri2805 They already get the VAT back as a charity.

Private school fees also haven't been static, I think there has been price rises above inflation, and I never heard those same parents complaining about that.

@MephitisUK At present, independent schools do not have to charge VAT on their fees because there is an exemption for the supply of education. This also means that independent schools cannot claim VAT back from their suppliers.

@@reiw5802I’ll provide you an honest answer for this as well. Fees increase every year, normally by ~£50 - £100 a term ish. I do complain, a lot. The last two have been painful due to energy costs and stretched it pretty tight. But they have to account for the cost of living as well. Unlike the state sector (shamefully), they do pay their teachers appropriately and I assume give them inflation based raises as well. Everyone seems to assume that if you can afford private education, you can afford anything, as if it’s some kind of magical barrier that once passed, money is infinite. That’s like me assuming you can afford a Volvo SUV just because you bought a Tucson SUV. Everyone has limits.

O'Brien went to a private school.

They will aways exist; the class system depends on them.

@@accountnamewithheld He did and is totally fine with the VAT raise.

@@stephenhill545 Sadly so.

Private schooling is not for education, it is entirely based on providing the best possible networking system for the same families over the centuries. The old school tie trumps all other qualifications for jobs and positions of power, the English just love it.

Exactly.

100% bang on. I'd go further and go down the Finland route.

@@debbiegale9076 I would ban private ed but that would be unacceptable to the electorate. That would give you excellent state ed. Same for healthcare. If you go private stay private unless its acute/emergency

@@jonsteele7227 If I'm understanding you correctly, you're saying banning private education would make state education excellent? Why would that be the case, I'm seeing no logical connection there at all?

I believe Gorden should start against the Danes Thursday night - rest Alexander Arnold

@George Any evidence to back that up? If not case still open.

​@chatham43 I mean a simple Google search and you'll see dozens of links about it being the best in the world

Population of Finland = 5.5 million, socialism doesn't scale up well, it fails every time.

@@chatham43no it’s true they even have highest percentage of kids finishing school in the entire world.

LOL.

charity private schools do not make a profit.

​@@jongalloway726what else do you call the massive tax free surpluses they accumulate then?

@matt So you support elitist private schools?

majority of private schools are not Eton/Harrow/Winchester. the policy effectively to get rid of the exemption robs some parents of choice, the policy doesnt raise that much money and while might partially fund 6500 teachers labour want, will still leave class sizes too large in the state sector. The policy is the worst type of politics - ideological grandstanding.

​@@jongalloway726Makes you wonder where all the surplus goes.

You mean the 4-6 kids the immigrants have compared to the 2-3 white people normally have.. LOL... Tony cuenca

O'Brien went to a private school.

and they do in fact it is law here that every child goes to school.

@@heathercooper6043 Ah, the simplistic approach ... don't bother considering the inequity in the system, it might to too taxing for you to grasp.

​@@heathercooper6043I guess you have never been outside of your bubble

……and Ferrari will still let him get away with it.

I'm more interested in how many times Ferrari will interrupt him considering how many times he interrupt sir keir

@@alexhibbitt5338that’s because hardly a star was mermering uumms and arrrs every sec … Boring judge will mess the country up further … you watch

It's not working. He's disproving Goebbels's theory.

​@@alexhibbitt5338Kier handled it well. Very calm, it will come across well. He could yet get 45%.

He doesn't need to...just looking at Sir Kier confirms his father's trade.

Dunno, remember rishi was raised in poverty denied sky TV.

I just found out that Starmer’s dad was indeed a toolmaker but the bit Starmer doesn’t mention is that his dad owned the factory! Funny that he doesn’t brag about that! To busy pretending his father was a working class factory worker… what a fraud!

Depends because private schools better class sizes, more parent involvement, flexible curriculum and better hiring flexibility so they can get specialists in certain areas. Also more funding for more resources

A child's success should be on their own ability. Not their parents wallet. In my view, private school is no better morally than just bribing the examiner to give them a better grade: you're just throwing money at a problem to buy advantage. Its unethical.

Yep. I think it’s only like 7% of school pupils attend a private school- yet those privately educated make up a disproportionate amount of people in a lot of careers. 65% of senior judges are privately educated, 59% of civil service are too, 57% of the House of Lords member were (no real surprise there), 52% of diplomats, 44% of newspaper journalists (51% of journalists in general were), 44% of top actors, 39% of cabinet members and 30% of top musicians including some surprising ones- Radiohead met at the private school they attended. Members of Coldplay and the Clash were also privately educated. Like you say it’s the connections you can make at private schools that get people places. Great example, actress Carey Mulligan. She attended a private school in Surrey. They had esteemed actor Julian Fellowes as a guest lecturer talking about film production. She expressed an interest in becoming an actor to him and his wife invited her to a dinner with the Fellowes’ and other young aspiring actors. At the dinner she met a casting assistant who was working on the production of 2005’s Pride and Prejudice which led to her being cast in the film….had she not attended that private school it’s hard to believe, however talented she maybe, that she would have gotten as far as she did. 🤔🤷😂

What utter nonsense.

Just like bully obrien

@julian Did you go to private school? I know Jimbo did.

@julian No he didn't. If you're determined to make these things up make it more convincing.

@@chatham43 State grammar school if it's so important for you to know

@julian That's a posh school to me...and nothing wrong with that. What happened to the Grammar schools btw?

@@chatham43 Nothing at all posh about a state grammar school in the north of England. You're a strange one.

A troubling image, that.

It will be a easy one from Tory Nick

How about we make kindergartens charities instead of private schools. Everybody uses them.

I feel like for balance Sunak should have had O'Brien or Vorders instead...

Ah no. Rishi can’t make it. He got a note from his mum

Charities don't make a profit.

@@jongalloway726 yes you're quite correct, but private schools are allowed to make a surplus with sits in bank accounts which of course earns interest, On which they don't pay tax on!

@@beatlebrian4404 which in turn gets reinvested in communities, school staff etc. The point being there are no investors in charitable private schools, the money gets pushed back into children, teachers or community.

@@gpw203 For university courses, not private schools, they've charged since the day they opened.

​@gpw203 ...the world didn't end did it.....?

Charities are not businesses, there are no investors to return the money to; at these private schools. It goes right back into STAFF wages, school facilities (which they partner with state schools to access) and donations to the community.

Correct. If I were Kier, I woukd ask them why kindergartens can't be charities. After all, we all use them.

@hilary Nice build up to your punch line.😊

Think we've fallen into the sea already,things can only get better, certainly not any worse at least

@clive Interesting slant.😊

It converted to a private school while he was there...don't let facts get in the way though.

You're bonkers. Ferrari despises Labour.

MAD MAD TORY BOY

"...Labour seeding the debate to the other side." *ceding But I agree with your point.👍

Probably because Sunak refused to take part if it was James O'Brien, whereas Starmer was willing to take part.

@@lizdocherty3067this has to be why. Sunak wanted a safe space.

Because Ferrari is a proper journalist, whereas O'Brien was a gossip columnist and games reviewer. Ferrari's contact book will be far larger.

@@NigelThompson-hb5jgFerrari is far from a real journalist 😂😂😂 He’s more the ford focus of journalism than a Ferrari

“Primus inter pares” - first among equals. That’s the phrase. Don’t hear it much anymore!

I distinctly remember people back then proudly announcing "I VOTED FOR TONY BLAIR" even in constituencies where Labour had no chance of winning. So yes, people at least thought they were voting directly for him - because they had no idea about how FPTP works.

@@runlarryrun77 OK but in 1996 I don’t think anyone was saying what’s Blair’s policy on x. The policy platform was Labour policies.

I disagree. There are enough socialists. Just not enough of them vote & so many people don't realise that they're socialists until you point it out too them. They think socialism & totalitarian communism are the same. It's infuriating.

A mainstream party can't trust the left or right to vote for them. Give them what they want and they'll just demand more. That's why to win the center has to be the target Example - brexit turned into leaving the single market which has turned into leaving the ECHR. The Tories followed their crazys into territory no one would have dreamed of years ago. And they will never catch them up. There'll always be a new thing. Starmer is smarter than following his side's crazys into something similar

What do you want them to talk about, what's going on in the soaps 🙄

They threw some curveballs at Kier, cheap shots you might say.

@@phillydavison repeating the same soundbites over and over? They are taking us for fools.

So every academy school....?

Because you have no other choice.

Trust me when I say that some of the best teachers are 'unqualified' and can be a lot more effective than the automatons churned out by the Universities.

@@mattgreen5720 Because education is not their primary purpose. Networking is. If Cameron was employed according to his academic qualifications he'd be clearing tables at MacDonald's.

Only because you're so used to tory bias you think it's normal & her "labour bias" (can't see it myself btw) seems odd to you.

His dad also owned the business 😂

Just for curiosity what do your dad do?

@AnthonyWilliams-sh1gv mine's retired he worked for the NHS we're not having a go at his dad's profession it's the amount of times he's said it

So James siding with ‘conspiracy theorists’ ?

Are the People of the UK going to be allowed the same chance with Astra Zenica.

@@anonomous8719 conspiracy theorists are you still wearing your mask and getting your Booster Vaccine

@@anonomous8719do your homework, it’s not a conspiracy theory at all.

Was he also pushing for government to overstep with vaccination I wonder? Genuine question as I was avoiding all media at the time

Farage is not a real choice to be PM. It a figment of the imagination of 15% of the voters.

Maybe because they get more votes

Nick.. Thats BS regarding Labour... Tony cuenca

It should be but Ferrari will give him another easy ride.

You are Joking

I'll believe 12m were motivated enough to vote for stamer when I see it. I'm a lefty so obviously, I now vote lib dem. Let's end the 2 child benefit cap!

‘Honest’ 🤣 ‘very professional’ 🤣 so many u turns and lies

@@anonomous8719 as opposed to who? Look around the political spectrum

@@crishill6458 Stamer is a tory in a red tie.

@crish It's logical enough. Boris and Brexit got the tories in....starmer gets in despite being starmer but not being a Tory 😊

You mean he's not quite as liberal/left and so therefore must be cancelled.

What are you on about, we do not want to listen in your echo chamber of hate.

Yep...cancel him. Because he's slightly to the right of Trotsky.

Diminish, surely?

@dawn So we should listen to yours?

Joke hahaha

Idiotic idea. Disaster awaits.

He appeals to base prejuduces, the worst in us. We hate him because he puts a mirror up to us.

That’s literally labour tactics

@@anonomous8719 Not really, otherwise their manifesto would have them spending a lot more

@@anonomous8719 nope.

@@kanedNunable 27 u turns since becoming labour leader

Yet he gets accused of continually changing his mind?

Much worse ( Bankrupt in one week )

Reform have no answers, just divide and rule hatred and fantasy economics.

Straight out of the Goebbels/Johnson playbook, make the lie big, and keep telling it.

He ended by being a warmonger

He really did, I should know because I was about 16 at the time and I lapped it up like a prat.

​@LunaticAsylum01 and now you're lapping up Farage... seems things haven't changed for you. Sorry about that.

No correlation

Don't think he's ever mentioned it 🤔

@@gavfrost9763 Ohh must of been a dream

@@cupoftea4787 reckon he must have been a surveyor Nothing working class like perhaps a tool maker

It’s always been a political propaganda broadcast for the labour party

Ancient comment

trouble is MOST PEOPLE are not working!