A Way of Dealing with Shasta Daisies That Fall Over

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John Lord’s Secret Garden

John Lord’s Secret Garden

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The plants mentioned in today’s video:
Helenium 'The Bishop',
Cortaderia selloana 'Pumila',
Cornus Alba 'Variegata',
Rosa 'James Galway',
Shasta daisy,
Leucanthemum × superbum 'Snow Lady',
Hydrangea 'Annabelle',
Helenium 'Short and Sassy',
Liatris
Visit John's garden at Ratoath Garden Centre in Co. Meath, Ireland.
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@edmowrey9755
@edmowrey9755 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's certainly one way to deal with tall daisies that fall over--get rid of them! I thoroughly enjoyed watching your enthusiasm, but I'm still wondering how to deal with falling over daisies that I want to KEEP. LOL
@lgrillo
@lgrillo Жыл бұрын
Same here! This solutions doesn’t actually answer the question. Felt like a bait and switch from the video name.
@Brockthedog315
@Brockthedog315 Жыл бұрын
I cut them back to the lower bud he showed.
@richardc8029
@richardc8029 4 жыл бұрын
I've had a problem with leggy plants like Shasta Daisies, Echinacea and Autumn Joy Sedums. This Spring I bought a roll of 30"high x 50' black welded fence. I cut off 30" lengths and made a barrel vault (a semi-cyclinder) about 14" high at the center that I set over the newly sprouted plants. I pushed the cut edges into the soil and added a garden staple. All the plants grew in a natural form through the fence and were supported. The fence completed disappeared into the foliage within a couple of weeks, and not one plant has fallen over yet (Sepember). Average cost $2 per plant.
@chalice3571
@chalice3571 4 жыл бұрын
Now, that's being ingenious!
@grahamthomas411
@grahamthomas411 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do the chealsea chop !! May help
@barit924
@barit924 4 жыл бұрын
The “Chelsea Chop” works beautifully on the sedums.
@jimsgardenproject3507
@jimsgardenproject3507 3 жыл бұрын
barit924 problem I’ve found with the sedums though is the new growth is thinner and falls over more easily. Thicker plant but you’ll need to keep it really short
@barit924
@barit924 3 жыл бұрын
Jims Garden project - They grow into a tight dome for me. Depends on your soil and light levels, probably.
@growtoeat4173
@growtoeat4173 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with gardening you never stop and you never stop learning. You have an awesome garden.
@JP-fd4vf
@JP-fd4vf 3 жыл бұрын
How in twenty five years of struggling to remove plants have I never thought of using a pick axe!? This is the greatest gardening find of the year!
@patriciashanks5870
@patriciashanks5870 4 жыл бұрын
I love watching you. I feel the same way. EVERY year I say I'm finished moving plants. And I still keep moving, learning and growing. Thanks for sharing. God bless you.
@sarahwbs
@sarahwbs 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Ooo, what's that pretty pink flower next to the daisies? John: *hacks plant with ax*
@bernadette1510
@bernadette1510 3 жыл бұрын
The pretty plant next to daisies that were🙈😂 is persicaria.
@pansepot1490
@pansepot1490 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair to the poor Shasta daisies it is difficult not to flop when growing almost under a huge hydrangea bush. 😁
@ashlimac
@ashlimac 4 жыл бұрын
My heart hurts to see the lovely blooms hacked out and trampled. But it’s obvious you are an artist and know very well your craft. Amazing (but painful) to watch.
@bunnyfrancis7006
@bunnyfrancis7006 4 жыл бұрын
You Sir, are a gem to say the least. I am in the USA watching you ........loving every minute. Thank you for sharing and helping us all have better gardens and more fun doing it. Love you for all you do for gardens and animals.
@sc3pt1c4L
@sc3pt1c4L 4 жыл бұрын
welcome to another episode of John Lord butchers plants
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 4 жыл бұрын
😀😀 funny
@zerogoldfish201
@zerogoldfish201 4 жыл бұрын
I was quite happy to find this channel and to see a professional do it that way. Took a whole lot of guilty feelings off me.
@moonpi4604
@moonpi4604 3 жыл бұрын
But he butchers them with love...for their own good.
@samanthabohr5284
@samanthabohr5284 Жыл бұрын
Love this style of just getting on with accept why works what does not and not over planning and then the growth of how a job changes
@agonz1438
@agonz1438 4 жыл бұрын
Love to watch your passion! Thank you for sharing your gorgeous garden!
@juliejay5436
@juliejay5436 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, as always, fantastic video, it's a joy to watch you working and transforming this gorgeous place. Many thanks.
@carmenbailey8209
@carmenbailey8209 4 жыл бұрын
I’m going to have to get one of those wide axe type chopper. You don’t mess around you just get the job done . 😊❤️👍
@victoriajimenez2161
@victoriajimenez2161 4 жыл бұрын
I love my nights gardening and thank you for all I being learning from your channel!🙏
@benneb663
@benneb663 4 жыл бұрын
I knew you weren’t gonna put more white next to the hydrangea. I know you too well now.
@sweetwoodruff6246
@sweetwoodruff6246 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Neb I was thinking the same thing. 🤣
@Dahliaismypassion
@Dahliaismypassion 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda did the same to my annuals in their glory today in favor of Hydrangea shrubs 😂 Its hard but if you have a vision you gotta go for it😆Good job John, I enjoy your videos, you have a magnificent garden!
@daniellegaudet1161
@daniellegaudet1161 4 жыл бұрын
Omg! Teddy at the end!
@nspector
@nspector 4 жыл бұрын
Ya, like others are saying, why not prune the daisies in late May/early June, even mid June so that they're shorter, fuller, and less likely to flop? Hey! Thrilled to see those cutting John stuck in the ground last year because after watching that video this past spring, I went out and took hardwood cuttings from a 100 year old hydrangea (yes! original planting with the house that turned 100 this year) that now gets almost no light, and a 100 year old once-beautiful rose bush that is now so shaded it barely grows, let alone flowers. Aaaaand, after doing nothing but sticking them in the ground (and watering them...I'm not in Ireland, alas), about half of them took, like John said, and I'm thrilled. So: Thank you for that so much.
@juliejay5436
@juliejay5436 4 жыл бұрын
NSpector that is amazing, I didn't know hydrangeas and roses could live longer than most people. Fantastic.
@nspector
@nspector 4 жыл бұрын
@@juliejay5436 They do! Unfortunately, the lilac which was planted at the same time just sort of stopped growing a few years ago, not dead, but not growing even tho I cut back 2/3 of it 7. 8 years ago. Looked it up this spring and found out that their life span is, coincidentally, about 100 years. So....will probably have to take it out soon. : (
@8806Erika
@8806Erika 4 жыл бұрын
Omg lol when you started hacking away I died 💀 😭
@Mony0425
@Mony0425 4 жыл бұрын
Lol same here. I was going to try to thin mine out at least or give away
@fseelye
@fseelye 4 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with Heleniums a few years back myself. Very different and colorful look. Like a "birdie" in Badminton. Some do get leggy.
@cathy8819
@cathy8819 4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Pittsburgh, Pennsyvania. Home of the Penquins and Steelers. Your pup is adorable. Good choice with the gold flowers in front of the Annabelle. I didn't even know about the chelsie chop, and here I've been cutting down many flowers all along thinking I was an original.
@mesenteria
@mesenteria 2 жыл бұрын
Just catching up on some of John's older videos. Very delighted to see him come around on the lowly Helenium. When I first saw them open in my own garden, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. They're in my top three or four flowers. Perhaps understandably, one of my other top four is the Gaillardia (blanket flower). Cone flowers included, and the treasure flower (Gazania). Love John's videos. Upbeat, fun, informative, and just visually so appealing.
@julieh7009
@julieh7009 4 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@laurenb6451
@laurenb6451 3 жыл бұрын
I am rationing my watching of your lovely videos but like everybody else I sure hope you make some more! 1.I’ve used my brother’s mattock, it is very useful for making neat narrow drainage channels but it is really heavy for me. After some thought though, I can’t think of anything better for a fight. 2. I am trying out a Helenium called Mardi Gras. It seems to be very dwarf and it is a blooming beast! Just about everything else is done but it is still unscathed by the frosts we have had and in full bloom. I hope to divide it or take cuttings next year. 3.I was absolutely surprised that you would consider shasta daisies to go in front of the hydrangea and was saying to the screen, “Try this cute Helenium.” 4. I still cannot just rip out plants and discard them. I either give them away or plant them in a strip in the very back of my yard. Cuz I am not a professional and am too sentimental.
@Pondandgardensanctuary
@Pondandgardensanctuary 4 жыл бұрын
You have an awesome garden.
@andyhudgins9443
@andyhudgins9443 3 жыл бұрын
You should hear how the plants talk about him when he turns his back.....
@nowirehangers2815
@nowirehangers2815 2 жыл бұрын
Stand up straight or we get the chop!
@hilaryreed9763
@hilaryreed9763 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos.
@fderon
@fderon 3 жыл бұрын
RIP shasta daisies!
@MsArdieT
@MsArdieT 19 күн бұрын
I need those tools, and the muscles to use them!! I really like his methods!
@jackie5046
@jackie5046 2 жыл бұрын
"I'll take yas all on !" ,😂 Love it. He must have a lot of vases in the house.
@mmsanrio
@mmsanrio Ай бұрын
I had it on 1.5x speed for a video prior, but kept it. You’re about as energetic as gardener Ciscoe Morris! Love your pup! 🐶
@vallgrl2
@vallgrl2 4 жыл бұрын
Easy to understand and enthusiastic
@SJLamb-te3dt
@SJLamb-te3dt 3 жыл бұрын
It occurs to me that if you treated it like the helenium and chopped it down earlier on it may have flowered at a lower height and no flopping would have occured. Of course with a large garden like yours the clever thing may be to plant a shorter variety and skip the extra chore altogether.
@chalice3571
@chalice3571 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, Mr John Lord, please send these beautiful Shasta Daisies to me to Indiana.I will be glad to take them and care for them... please don't destroy them , but plant them on the side of the road somewhere, ... God bless you
@lindyresnick7418
@lindyresnick7418 4 жыл бұрын
The ones I had in full sun fell over. I noticed the ones I left in a shadier area stand nice and tall.
@laurenb6451
@laurenb6451 3 жыл бұрын
It can also be affected by soil fertility and amount of H2O.
@lindaadams1008
@lindaadams1008 3 жыл бұрын
You can just tell everything he touches turns to something beautiful...
@movednorthhomestead7244
@movednorthhomestead7244 4 жыл бұрын
In part of your opening, you are standing next to a tall patch of something tall and white and you shake one. Just wondering what it is
@missmaryhdream6560
@missmaryhdream6560 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful little dog. Don't you grow the dwarf sunflowers John, they are really cute x but they always remind me of overgrown daisies. I love that pampas grass lovely and shaggy.
@user-iw1hc8so6l
@user-iw1hc8so6l 2 жыл бұрын
I m happy with my shasta daisies, never thought they are floppy. Just learnt I have a shorter variety
@noracoolen2167
@noracoolen2167 3 жыл бұрын
Im with you John, if it has to be staked pull it up and replace
@happyfamily8624
@happyfamily8624 4 жыл бұрын
very nice video my friend I like it. like # 400
@sharonp.6505
@sharonp.6505 3 жыл бұрын
It's killing me watching you digging up that beautiful ground cover persicaria. I've been looking for that plant for ages. Very difficult to find here in the USA. I love how rough you are with the plants. It has made me a more "fearless" gardener! LOL
@annettebowersox1976
@annettebowersox1976 4 жыл бұрын
“One man’s trash is another man’s treasure”. I wish my Shasta daisies were as lush as yours!! Thank you from the Ozark Mountains in Arkansas - The US!
@dabhenjiman8694
@dabhenjiman8694 4 жыл бұрын
Annette Bowersox all depends what variety you got
@jimberg9243
@jimberg9243 2 жыл бұрын
Se your garden soon. We take a plane to Dublin in the late spring 2022. From Stockholm.
@jimsgardenproject3507
@jimsgardenproject3507 3 жыл бұрын
John, I have some rudbeckia maxima. They’ll grow as tall as 7-8’ but first slight wind they’re resting on the ground. They flower but are now curling to reach sunlight. Would I get the same affect as the sunflowers if I cut the original flowering stems with the maximas? Will trimming carnations do the same? My wife loves them but they fall over. I’m like you. I’ve removed a bunch of things because they just fall over.
@johnlordssecretgarden
@johnlordssecretgarden 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve stopped growing the taller rudbeckias because they tend to fall over which is a pity because they are so elegant. I’ve never tried to Chelsea Chop them to reduce their height but it’s certainly worth a try. I might try it myself next year. Carnations are I think somewhat different and will naturally flop without staking.
@jimsgardenproject3507
@jimsgardenproject3507 3 жыл бұрын
John Lord’s Secret Garden thanks John.
@jimsgardenproject3507
@jimsgardenproject3507 3 жыл бұрын
John Lord’s Secret Garden I’m going to note for next year to try your cutting back method. I’ll talk to you in 9 months haha. Great garden and videos. Appreciate all the labels / names of plants.
@convinth
@convinth 3 жыл бұрын
My Bishops are somewhat smaller than yours, John. With larger varieties such as Riverton Beauty you do the Chelsea Chop at the end of May and it results in later flowering and less chance of flopping over.
@TrungTran-yg3uv
@TrungTran-yg3uv 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the dark pink / pastel pink plant next to the daisies? Persicaria?
@carmenbailey1560
@carmenbailey1560 4 жыл бұрын
Gardening grows legs, how very true 😄😀😁
@ruthkeeling-holt2031
@ruthkeeling-holt2031 4 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the pink flowering plant next to the Shasta Daisy. Really enjoy your show
@internette
@internette 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same. I think it is Persicaria affinis, from this video of John's - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNGKZaRir5ndpWg.html
@ruthkeeling-holt2031
@ruthkeeling-holt2031 4 жыл бұрын
@@internette .... I think that you are correct !! Thank you
@tessmonro7102
@tessmonro7102 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean the gravel was only put on for the soil? Thankyou- your videos are so informative and humerous 😁
@johnlordssecretgarden
@johnlordssecretgarden 4 жыл бұрын
I mean it was put on top of the soil to make a path without the usual hard core base underneath. It works fine if there’s no heavy traffic on it
@tessmonro7102
@tessmonro7102 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnlordssecretgarden Thank you for replying. I live in New Zealand and love your videos - I take notes for my own garden😁
@jessiehunter2559
@jessiehunter2559 2 жыл бұрын
Garding aside sir, you have the best collections of shirts!
@Jehzell963
@Jehzell963 4 жыл бұрын
As the Hydrangeas in the background fall to the ground...but they are Hydrangeas! So, they get a pass. LOL
@grahamthomas411
@grahamthomas411 4 жыл бұрын
Could you not do the chealsea chop to save it !!!!! Thanks for your time 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@destiny3423
@destiny3423 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why you would put white Shasta daisy next to a white hydrangea. I am very happy I watched the video till the end and see you've changed your mind. 🤣 Now, can you please tell me how I can deal with with tall daisy I want to keep ?
@convinth
@convinth 4 жыл бұрын
From where did you get that floral print?! Not from your garden, I hope.
@juliejay5436
@juliejay5436 4 жыл бұрын
convinth it looks great on him though. It matches his colourful personality.
@wildlifegardener-tracey6206
@wildlifegardener-tracey6206 4 жыл бұрын
Why trample over all the pink flowers? Are you removing them too? Then you did.
@jyotikagonsalves6505
@jyotikagonsalves6505 4 жыл бұрын
OMG.... poor daisies 🙁 .... beautiful garden though !!
@OldGardenerGuy
@OldGardenerGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Tommy Tiernan had a gardening channel 😂😆😅
@clarissamiles
@clarissamiles 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, well, that's one way to deal with it. Too drastic for me. Just todsy i spent 4 hours deadheading my shastas that fell over. But I just cut them at a bud and staked them up.
@GranRey-0
@GranRey-0 4 жыл бұрын
So would the Chelsea Chop have saved these Shastas? Although I think changing it up and adding more colour was a good choice too. 4:50 John's true colours? xD Poor persicaria D:
@beckyjones8285
@beckyjones8285 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, that's brutal what a waste of plants ???
@cherylhaskell9830
@cherylhaskell9830 Жыл бұрын
WOW! John reeally does "HATE" Shasta Daisies that fall over.
@tutsecret499
@tutsecret499 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you kill the daisies?
@frankanderson3503
@frankanderson3503 4 жыл бұрын
I also knew you woudnt put white in front of white
@mathafok3r
@mathafok3r 4 жыл бұрын
best part @11:09
@tiffanienguyen7174
@tiffanienguyen7174 2 жыл бұрын
What causes the Shasta Daisies to infested with aphids???
@nowirehangers2815
@nowirehangers2815 5 ай бұрын
Lack of lady birds
@redlantern3371
@redlantern3371 4 жыл бұрын
Savage!
@Thelmageddon
@Thelmageddon 3 жыл бұрын
Me (new to this channel): Ooh good, someone's going to show me how to rescue my daisies that fell over in a storm.... John: HACK! Me: 🤤 😆 Hi everyone!
@flowerfairy1950
@flowerfairy1950 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Shasta cut off in her prime. Hah! I was thinking about Helenium for the Shasta spot.
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 4 жыл бұрын
I covered mine up in the Spring, it was too tall, now am going to start all over again with some seeds I have ,I saw Laura with the shorter ones, wish I could get some
@dabhenjiman8694
@dabhenjiman8694 4 жыл бұрын
Great in a fight😂😂
@groundhogday5392
@groundhogday5392 2 жыл бұрын
Getting rid of them was not what I was looking for
@SuffolkSusie
@SuffolkSusie 4 жыл бұрын
Brutal lol.😀 and genius. Just don't remove all the gravel for the puppies sake 😀
@neverlostforwords
@neverlostforwords 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how you resolved the problem with tall perennials that need staking or they will fall. I have those taller shasta daisies too and have to support them by surrounding them with stakes every summer. (See old video of shasta daisies on my channel.) Currently, as it is the start of spring, they are just starting to grow again. I will give them the Chelsea chop when they are around a foot high, and that will keep them a little smaller. I don't mind how they look when they are supported. They still look beautiful. :) But it's good to know there are smaller varieties, for when I tire of propping the tall ones up. I will be interested to see how your dwarf varieties look when they are fully grown. I do agree that a garden is never finished. There are always new areas to develop or old ones to refurbish. Thanks for the great video!
@flowerfairy1950
@flowerfairy1950 4 жыл бұрын
I had a look at your channel but there appears to be only three short videos.
@pennyfulton3418
@pennyfulton3418 4 жыл бұрын
Yes , I've got the ones that start a beautiful buttery yellow and turn white with age , so the small white ones won't be the same ... All my plants seem to flop mid summer ! maybe too much manure , John doesn't like manure, I think because it makes the plants weak and sappy, hence floppy . The soil is so poor and dry otherwise though, a combination of having removed the top soil for wild meadow in the past, a hedgerow taking up all water and being hot south facing . When they are are a foot high, how much do you cut back ?
@neverlostforwords
@neverlostforwords 4 жыл бұрын
@@flowerfairy1950 Thanks for letting me know. There are more than just three videos. I will have a look into it.
@Urko2005
@Urko2005 3 жыл бұрын
You can deal with anything by getting rid of it lmao.
@deltatrippers
@deltatrippers 4 жыл бұрын
No one noticed that you Chelsea Chopped your hair. That floppy hair had to go. Looks good. You are now a spry young man. You didn't use your garden pruners did you?
@verawallace9055
@verawallace9055 4 жыл бұрын
I did
@LeyserDJGuate
@LeyserDJGuate 23 күн бұрын
And a lot of people paying for roses in may 🤣 everywhere that’s insane 😅😅😅
@nowirehangers2815
@nowirehangers2815 5 ай бұрын
Hate my daisies They are definitely going
@petitelidi
@petitelidi 2 ай бұрын
Nope. I won't destroy them. When you grow them from seeds ...you cannot do that. They are beautiful in any way, even on the ground if they like so....
@fgb3126
@fgb3126 2 жыл бұрын
@4:30 you really should cut that Shasta back before digging it up. Make it easy on yourself Johnnie. And set a good example for your viewers too.
@TheGrubbyGirl
@TheGrubbyGirl 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think an 11 minute video on how to did up daisies is very useful
@katharinedavis4947
@katharinedavis4947 3 жыл бұрын
You vandal John . Those poor persicarias ! K
@Homegardenerandmore
@Homegardenerandmore 4 жыл бұрын
I’m kind of scared to watch your videos. I request you to please dig a plant out with some rootball 🙏 and give it your friends and family members. The otherwise healthy plans and the friends will appreciate it.
@nemroud
@nemroud 14 күн бұрын
This guy has absolutly no respect on how he stomp on persicarias
@tlrandel
@tlrandel 2 жыл бұрын
Don't like the color of your house? Burn it down!
@susanaloomis5478
@susanaloomis5478 3 жыл бұрын
WTF? THIS IS THE WORST GARDENER I SEEN ON KZfaq! WHY DONT YOU GIVE THE PLANTS AWAY INSTEAD OF BUTCHER THEM LIKE THAT? 😡
@nowirehangers2815
@nowirehangers2815 2 жыл бұрын
You must be very new 😂😂😂
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