Aaron Kyro, and the Rise and Fall of Braille Skateboarding's YouTube Channel

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4 ай бұрын

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@2m7b5
@2m7b5 4 ай бұрын
I've always gotten that creepy youth group religious vibe from Braille's videos, but kind of assumed it was because they were more kid-friendly. Finding out that he's a scientologist explains _a lot._
@bobbroseph
@bobbroseph 3 ай бұрын
Glad im not the only one who saw that. Very Sus
@Haedesthings6
@Haedesthings6 3 ай бұрын
Right?? My thoughts exactly. This dude gave me an awful vibe the moment I saw him. Just a gross feeling.
@cwatson42785
@cwatson42785 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope nothing comes out down the road from kids who have grown up. 😔
@Autotrope
@Autotrope 3 ай бұрын
I know exactly what you mean and I get the same vibe from DK Oldies channel and I've always wondered if that guy was a scientologist or I'm just imagining it
@rickybateni6517
@rickybateni6517 3 ай бұрын
I think a couple kids came out saying some of the employees did sus shit to them
@princequestly2218
@princequestly2218 4 ай бұрын
Being a Scientologist is a huge red flag. He’s never gonna do anything for the right reasons it’ll always be to make money for Scientology
@sandwich5067
@sandwich5067 4 ай бұрын
Yea the whole shits a cult, really weird shit completely changes my look on him.
@TheBlakus420
@TheBlakus420 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely 100% agree with both of you. Scientology is so sketchy creepy... They'll ruin lives without hesitation to keep their status quoe. Had a homie that went to Narcanon. And if you don't know what that is, look it up. He told me the full detailed experience there. More info than you'll ever find online about those places. They prey on the vulnerable in very mind warping ways just to gain followers. If you oppose them when you're there, they'll make your own family think you're a liar, push you to a mental breakdown and then convince the world your crazy by sending you off to a psych ward. That way anything you say about them after that can forever be discredited because now you're crazy and it's on paper. After hearing his story, I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if Scientology is involved with human trafficking. The worst part is they have hella power, resources and can actually be smart af about the way they run things. It's for sure 100% a twisted cult and not at all an actual religion. If there is a hell, there's a special place in it just for the POSs that are at the top of it all
@nf4866
@nf4866 4 ай бұрын
True. It sucks to know I supported the church of scientology in any way.
@stellviahohenheim
@stellviahohenheim 4 ай бұрын
thank you for saving me 25 minutes of my time
@lankey6969
@lankey6969 4 ай бұрын
No way. I'm unsubbing right now.
@donkyuhbuhts540
@donkyuhbuhts540 4 ай бұрын
"Historians will argue..." 😂 bro there's no Historians arguing over braille 😂😂😂
@walmorcarvalho2512
@walmorcarvalho2512 3 ай бұрын
I wanna agree with you, but there will ALWAYS be that guy in +20 years that will dedicate their life to document EVERYTHING some shitty brand made bc they were the first something in they life or something
@Signal_in_the_noise
@Signal_in_the_noise 3 ай бұрын
Yah what a cringe statement
@Kihidokid
@Kihidokid 3 ай бұрын
That's arguable at best, he's technically an internet historian by uploading this, and it's literally just a loose joke. It's a common joke phrase when documenting things that only matter superficially.
@Kihidokid
@Kihidokid 3 ай бұрын
Also can we please acknowledge that the title of 5his channel is Dumb Data? Like you get that's the point right? It's a documentary channel of things that don't "matter". That's the ENTIRE joke.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 3 ай бұрын
​@@Kihidokid k
@claysoggyfries
@claysoggyfries 4 ай бұрын
Love him or hate him, but Aaron Kyro, the professional skateboarder from the San Francisco Bay area, has taught lots of people how to skate.
@itisjustacomment
@itisjustacomment 4 ай бұрын
True
@gunpla_sk8
@gunpla_sk8 4 ай бұрын
Ok
@Yungweedle
@Yungweedle 4 ай бұрын
Who
@itisjustacomment
@itisjustacomment 4 ай бұрын
@Yungweedle Who you ask ? He has 28 million views on how to kick flip video. So I assume a great deal of people who watched that . Let's say only 0.1 per cent of people watching that video , followed it, and learnt from it . That's 28 thousand people . Remember, back then, you didn't have video walk throughs .
@tvsavery666
@tvsavery666 4 ай бұрын
​@@itisjustacommentit's not a good kickflip tho. So if you have shitty kickflips, and you teach people how to kickflip, what are you actually achieving?
@bryanm6245
@bryanm6245 4 ай бұрын
Besides Lance, there were other skaters who left as well, like Chris and Mogely. I believe Aaron didnt want to pay enough to keep them, as both their contracts were ending and up for renegotiation when they left. Its hard to watch Aaron give away $750k to Scientology, but not want to pay his employees squat.
@IchDuForeverExplorering
@IchDuForeverExplorering 4 ай бұрын
Chris likes to comment shat on pizzeria live streams now
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 4 ай бұрын
@@IchDuForeverExplorering hey what now? what do you mean? Ive been waiting to hear from him
@BearShare69
@BearShare69 4 ай бұрын
@@IchDuForeverExplorering wat
@jeffdahmer4127
@jeffdahmer4127 4 ай бұрын
It's disgusting.. anyone mentally ill enough to support that weird cult, has no business interacting with children. that little boy JD has no business around aaron. And the rest of the team needs to get some self respect and leave.
@dungoofed8983
@dungoofed8983 4 ай бұрын
Yes scientology is crazy. But ask DumbData why he flagged Ricky Glasers response to this video and got it taken down? He wont let anyone question this vid. Which is very scientology of him
@dirtbagzrus
@dirtbagzrus 4 ай бұрын
“Fast food type videos” nailed it when it comes to braille videos
@NaClO
@NaClO 4 ай бұрын
as someone who watched braille back in 2015-2018 i can say fully that one of the biggest reasons people stopped watching the braille channel was due to the departure of Lance. Lance was easily one of the biggest reasons the common person who wasnt good at skate boarding or someone who didnt even know how to skateboard could connect to the channel as Lance was someone who was learning along with the rest of us. Lance's dynamic with Aaron was easily the highlight of the braille channel along with the wacky ideas they came up with. Lances departure made the channel feel like it was missing something. Gabe who then filled in the position of camera man never really filled the shoes left behind by lance and for that reason, I personally stopped watching the braille skateboarding channel all together. Of course there were others who left aswell such as Chris and Mogely and Nigel which did ultimately kill the original fanbase on braille
@theoutsiderjess4869
@theoutsiderjess4869 4 ай бұрын
Lance was my Guy while I did still check in with the channel over time I stopped regularly watching because it became obnoxious
@burgersbeansandchips
@burgersbeansandchips 4 ай бұрын
He was also the most stoned KZfaqr around that time! legend
@dubzack344
@dubzack344 3 ай бұрын
Gabe tried and that's cool but he's no Lance. I stopped watching after Lance didn't realize at the time he had an effect on me watching. He was like the average guy learning to skate. Plus he was the only one I was personally better then not that it matters. It showed me that skill doesn't matter because you find the right group of skaters/friends skateboarding is a great time for everybody.
@NaClO
@NaClO 3 ай бұрын
@@dubzack344 fr. Lance was like the anchor for the channel. While people did crazy ass tricks and stunts, there would always be short sections where lance would do a trick that seemed so normalized like an Ollie or a kick flip and everyone would freak out. It felt good watching him progress. The channel lost a bit part of itself when he left.
@Themightyegghead
@Themightyegghead 3 ай бұрын
Then Fetty turned out to be a pedo
@TheKotor2309
@TheKotor2309 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Scientology will often lead to the downfall of everyone.
@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431
@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431 4 ай бұрын
Besides Tom Cruise, he's like to Xenu
@TourDead
@TourDead 4 ай бұрын
Hey don't say Xenu!​@@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431
@TourDead
@TourDead 4 ай бұрын
​@@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431lol
@walmorcarvalho2512
@walmorcarvalho2512 3 ай бұрын
Still, I have a lingering feeling that the church might've put a small finger on the scales for him, at least for a while.
@NecronomThe4th
@NecronomThe4th 3 ай бұрын
He actually could be Xenu himself.
@TVindustries5000
@TVindustries5000 4 ай бұрын
Lance was hugely influential to the channel. he was the average man among all the skaters. for non or new skating viewers, he was like the same level friend people could relate to. i remember his personal skate progress videos were pretty great. but yeah just became a content mill and weird controversies with some of the guys that put me off and i stopped watching several years ago
@lmclrain
@lmclrain 4 ай бұрын
they forgot Lance's videos for sure this video is cool anyway I think Braille will do just fine in the future and KZfaq has changed lots since 2016 so I think they are not promoted that much as before
@TVindustries5000
@TVindustries5000 4 ай бұрын
​@@lmclrainits just part of youtube. theres highs and lows. i think alot of people maybe not just braille but alot of youtubers thought things would stay level after Covid times but people dont have as much free time as they did back then when people were exploring things to do
@rayshowtv2350
@rayshowtv2350 4 ай бұрын
Lance was from N*Sync right?
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 4 ай бұрын
Lance was also their video editor at first, then he started appearing on camera. Video quality sort of decreased after he left.
@philgoodinc2
@philgoodinc2 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Lance leaving was a big one for me, and I wasn't really a skateboarding fan anyway, I just enjoyed the shenanigans content, which started getting a bit stale. I feel like a lot of the good ideas were already done at that point. I also think some other things also just FELT wrong, e.g. They were originally filming the YMIWSI vids at public skateparks, and they got so popular at one point the young kids kept ruining the videos, they got a warehouse and built their own indoor park to continue making content without interruptions. At first I liked it because those kids were annoying AF, but soon after, It was almost like a big F U to the fans like, "were too good for public skateparks now." at least that's how it felt for me.
@marcotixxx
@marcotixxx 4 ай бұрын
people stopped watching and unsubscribed to braille when they found out aaron is a scientologist
@DontSlamCoke
@DontSlamCoke 3 ай бұрын
And two of his former employees are alleged creeps, never to be mentioned to his fanbase of mostly children 🤮
@hansolodolo92
@hansolodolo92 Ай бұрын
That’s why I stopped for damn sure
@keysersoze7919
@keysersoze7919 Ай бұрын
​@@DontSlamCoke who are those employees?
@markotomac4563
@markotomac4563 Ай бұрын
@@keysersoze7919fetty potter(found inocent by police) and carlos lastra(investigation pending)
@fuckspace989
@fuckspace989 25 күн бұрын
Why don’t yall have that same energy towards ✡️? Lol
@ProdAGee
@ProdAGee 4 ай бұрын
Lance left for the scientology reasons apparently. Aaron wasn't paying the braille members adequately because of his huge donations to scientology. This is also why members keep leaving including Mogley. He hinted that he wasn't getting paid enough in his goodbye video. and its because of Aarons mishandling of the channels money, a large portion of which goes to scientology. which isn't fair to all the members of the team. This is just the rumors in the LA area with some influencers close to the situations. this among MANY other rumors and drama involving Aaron. which is why he has now stepped back from the videos. at least that's part of the word going around among the creator community in LA that is closely related to braille including people who have been featured on the channel.
@nickrizzi8109
@nickrizzi8109 4 ай бұрын
I was going to say like love them or hate them they’ve made more money skating than most of the real board companies and pros. I’ll tell you if I was offered a like real solid paycheck to skate that park daily and film dumb videos I would take it. Same with most core dudes. Skating all day for money beats a regular job anyway. That said if they aren’t getting paid dick and most the moneys headed to Scientology that’s fucked.
@ProdAGee
@ProdAGee 4 ай бұрын
@@nickrizzi8109 Yeah im not claiming to know the facts 100% BUT there is a consistent pattern of the members leaving all for the same reasons (money) maybe they aren't making enough to pay well now, but that's clearly because Aaron has donated so much to scientology. after this many years they should have Millions in savings by now. and im pretty connected with the Skatin scene in cali and know quite a few ppl who have filmed with braille and have been close to the interworking of the company and they all say that same thing. money seems to be the issue. then again, these are just rumors and nobody can truly know.
@ashleybrown4754
@ashleybrown4754 4 ай бұрын
Sadly not one part of that was shocking. After they couldn’t even get new wood for their ramps I figured Xenu was getting paid.
@drywater3559
@drywater3559 4 ай бұрын
Ill say this about Braille... Ive been skating since 1995. just for fun but always kept tabs on who is who and what companies stuck around. Until last year, I had NEVER heard of Braille or Aaron Kyro. and Ive been on YT since they started and Ive posted some vids when I was in high school circa 2006. I will say though, he had some skillssss when he was younger.
@fatfurie
@fatfurie 4 ай бұрын
this is some of the most disappointing shit ive ever read. giving money to a church over skating..no matter the church is the most non skater thing ive ever heard
@thatguy5233
@thatguy5233 4 ай бұрын
i think braille was bound to this downfall sooner or later. every cool idea with a skateboard was already done by them and all they can do now is add a little variance to it or do the same video that once went viral and hope for the best. literally what else can you do at this point. i think what they're doing now is correct: accept the downfall and make sure the community that's still there is not gonna go away as well. i feel like they now care about their audience - they're reading and responding to all the comments and actually listen to them, like gabe finally stopped yelling, Aaron started to show up more often etc
@CarsCatAliens
@CarsCatAliens 4 ай бұрын
Yeah circus boards, and guests only last for so long
@xaphan8581
@xaphan8581 4 ай бұрын
That and braille peaked towards Covid. Once people were able to go outside again they had another huge drop
@IchDuForeverExplorering
@IchDuForeverExplorering 4 ай бұрын
Brail peaked in 2016, either millions of bots or millions of kids and maybe their parents watched their videos, and a few years later they just stoped ​@@xaphan8581
@drivenbyfate
@drivenbyfate 4 ай бұрын
​@@xaphan8581based on this video, they peaked in 2016 really. They were already in the downfall during covid19.
@ScuderiaSkoot
@ScuderiaSkoot 4 ай бұрын
u realize the past two years they have had they biggest impact on skateboarding maybe since the channel started. with JDs comp stuff, the Tetris collaboration, Doin Red Bulls Flutag. Hosting a Dew Tour Comp on the channel. Braille doing Multi State Tour with the All Terrain Tour. of course the videos gonna take a hit they was putting in real work in the streets
@TheKcXiV
@TheKcXiV 4 ай бұрын
As someone who watched alot of Skateboarding youtube, the reason why 23 has sucked for them is they havent had anyone go to their skatepark like in years past. They lost 2 employee's this year that people liked. Plus all the Skaters now are getting a bit older outside of JD so they dont push the limits on doing jackass'ish things.
@cannibalisticzombie6663
@cannibalisticzombie6663 4 ай бұрын
who did they loose?
@TheKcXiV
@TheKcXiV 4 ай бұрын
Mowgli and Chris@@cannibalisticzombie6663
@CleverTricksGames
@CleverTricksGames 4 ай бұрын
@@cannibalisticzombie6663 McNugget and Mowgli. And that's also after losing Carlos the year before.
@MrJSheppy16
@MrJSheppy16 4 ай бұрын
​@CleverTricksGames this was the death null.
@TheKcXiV
@TheKcXiV 4 ай бұрын
naw, they had good content after Carlos left, though he was awesoe. This last year though has been a huge bummer no doubt. They need to bring others in to skate, not just skate cheap boards and crazy made ones. The one that recently did with that women was the content they need. Not just because she's female, but bringing on others to stake their park.@@MrJSheppy16
@frozennorth3426
@frozennorth3426 4 ай бұрын
“My space is so big and so clean, and my flows are wide open. I got rid of messes that had been in my space for trillions of years. I truly uncovered my basic goodness and rightness as a being” - Aaron Kyro, upon diverting enough 10-year-olds’ parents’ money to his cult that he earned a cult social ranking of “L-10”
@IchDuForeverExplorering
@IchDuForeverExplorering 4 ай бұрын
Thanks to southpark we can truely understand how fugged up Aaron is for paying his youtube money to his L ron cult
@TheSquareOnes
@TheSquareOnes 4 ай бұрын
Not going defend him wasting money on that cult, but if it makes it any better I assume the vast majority of their income is from ad revenue on the channel. It's not that kids are paying per video, the massive faceless business is paying him because of how many kids are showing up (and then he is dumping that money into the flaming dumpster than scientology).
@haroldcampos9661
@haroldcampos9661 4 ай бұрын
I noticed this, too. But that's part of why this joke worked lol.@@TheSquareOnes
@ChildrenOfDesire
@ChildrenOfDesire 4 ай бұрын
He's certainly taking an L alright
@frozennorth3426
@frozennorth3426 4 ай бұрын
@@ChildrenOfDesire lol he’s reached L level 10 :)
@FragrantVagrant69
@FragrantVagrant69 4 ай бұрын
It all went downhill after Lance left and Gabe started getting camera time
@Khelldon
@Khelldon 4 ай бұрын
100% this.
@facksmasheen
@facksmasheen 4 ай бұрын
The whole Fetty situation surely didn't help either.
@KHADDY121
@KHADDY121 4 ай бұрын
Gabe is laterally the only reason why i don't watch them anymore lol
@ethikzmedia
@ethikzmedia 4 ай бұрын
Lance was the star!
@josiahamaze
@josiahamaze 4 ай бұрын
EXACTLY Gabe is the reason for the downfall
@Iwas20in2000
@Iwas20in2000 4 ай бұрын
it's the same for a lot of channels. it starts with a bunch of friends having fun doing silly things but then it becomes a business and they just do it like a work without passion.
@richdixon
@richdixon 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly right, and it happens with full budget TV shows too. Something random, usually quirky, clicks with people and they get fans. Then the analytics take over and they try to hone in on what people like. Then all their content becomes homogenized, repetitive, and stagnant. It seems logical and democratic to creators to find what people like and deliver it, but what people really want is creativity, variety, and fresh ideas. This is especially true if you're relying on gimmicks like skating novel skateboards and goofy games. I watched Braille very briefly and somehow never saw the progression of a skater content. The skating weird skateboards content was entertaining for about a week, then I went back to watching pros do amazing stuff which never gets repetitive or stagnant because it's the high end of content quality. Honestly I'm shocked they ever had mainstream level success. It's pretty easy to say they could have pushed for much higher quality, per Dumb Data's triangle, with that approximately $1,000,000 that went to the cult.
@thebayharborbutcher9115
@thebayharborbutcher9115 2 ай бұрын
Yeah just look at true detective
@saleenf5
@saleenf5 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I feel it all went downhill the moment they left the outdoor parks and went to the braille house indoor park. Like there is literally never anyone really there, it's the same few staff members and an empty park when it used to be lively videos at a park with tons of people just in the background having fun.
@ddevil4980
@ddevil4980 4 ай бұрын
When whats his name left. I honestly can't remember his name. But, once he left, it all went down hill.
@ddevil4980
@ddevil4980 4 ай бұрын
Lance, he just said it in the video. 😂
@younghedstrom9611
@younghedstrom9611 4 ай бұрын
I dont agree obviously them going to the park and skating on an ordinary board was more interesting to watch but the Braille house was a natural good progression with many good videos like remember when they shot a tree through the roof that was lit
@mikea9929
@mikea9929 4 ай бұрын
I agree I used to watch the channel when they had Doug the crazy white guy, lance, and the short Hispanic kid. After a while they moved to the braille house it felt dead, people left and Aaron seemed uninterested in the content most videos.
@ddevil4980
@ddevil4980 4 ай бұрын
@mikea9929 them and Garrett Ginner and John Hill. Thats how I started watching Garrett and John. Except I still watch both of them but not Braille.
@mikeythezero
@mikeythezero 4 ай бұрын
I started watching Braille videos about 2 years ago and wasn't a fan of Aron, but all the skaters on the team seemed fun. Then I saw JD and that little dude is awesome and I can't wait to see him in the Olympics this summer
@_JellyDonut_
@_JellyDonut_ 4 ай бұрын
I first subbed around 2015 and Aaron didn't both me at first but eventually he started to get on my nerves. Over the years I've found myself less likely to click if he was in the thumbnail. There's just something annoying about him. The rest of the crew has always been pretty likeable though
@dirkcreates
@dirkcreates 4 ай бұрын
No mention of Fetty getting busted for being a pedo.. Might be reaching here, but Scientology doesn’t exactly have a good track record with that type of thing either.
@notgnar8506
@notgnar8506 4 ай бұрын
Numerous scandals is why they lost their core fandom.
@_t_f_
@_t_f_ 4 ай бұрын
“Fetty Potter” AKA Jason Semmel CREEPER MAN.
@chaddsinclairofficial
@chaddsinclairofficial 4 ай бұрын
facts lol
@theegalitariancontrarian2344
@theegalitariancontrarian2344 3 ай бұрын
Neither do Juice in their tunnels under new york lol
@Monkchelle_Kongbama
@Monkchelle_Kongbama 3 ай бұрын
the people who so easily call others pedos, usually be the one jacking it to the snl hoggwarts skit
@brenreidy8763
@brenreidy8763 4 ай бұрын
When you allocate a gigantic percentage of Braille's content income to your own personal belief in Scientology, it's bound to go bad. Lance, McNug, Mogley, and a couple aren't very far behind partially because they weren't getting paid enough, and I'm sure they became privy to Aaron's "donations" to the Church of Scientology. I've always been weary of Braille, but more so Aaron. It just seems like the perfect scenario to groom young people with a hidden agenda. Once the younger guys grew up, they realized what was going on and jumped ship.
@kennynewell85
@kennynewell85 4 ай бұрын
I agree. Once I saw all the Scientology stuff I never viewed the channel the same.
@spankyjeffro5320
@spankyjeffro5320 4 ай бұрын
Both aaron and lance were stologists. Most of them were, in fact.
@brenreidy8763
@brenreidy8763 4 ай бұрын
Proof?@@spankyjeffro5320
@brenreidy8763
@brenreidy8763 4 ай бұрын
Oh dang, I just looked it up. He is. Wow.@@spankyjeffro5320
@ElDiggityDog
@ElDiggityDog 4 ай бұрын
Who else other than Aaron and Lance can you confirm have taken scientology courses?
@BoardshotSkateboarding
@BoardshotSkateboarding 4 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity to introduce Aaron Kyro as a sponsored skateboarder from the San Francisco Bay Area.
@TheHitchboy
@TheHitchboy 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that was the joke.
@OneMoreForZero
@OneMoreForZero 4 ай бұрын
Braille went downhill when they started their own skatepark. Their og videos were way more entertaining at the parks riding crazy boards and playing silly games of skate and add on. Funny thing is in their prime Kyro used to be on a billboard for Scientology out here in Clearwater FL.
@thebayharborbutcher9115
@thebayharborbutcher9115 2 ай бұрын
Who cares if he’s into Scientology it’s America your allowed to practice what ever religion you want . It’s blown way out of proportion
@Hadeto_AngelRust
@Hadeto_AngelRust 2 ай бұрын
ok tom cruise@@thebayharborbutcher9115
@James-nl5kn
@James-nl5kn 2 ай бұрын
It's not a religion it's a cult you kook@@thebayharborbutcher9115
@DissTrackTed
@DissTrackTed Ай бұрын
@@thebayharborbutcher9115 Tell that to the victims
@Cthooligan
@Cthooligan 4 ай бұрын
Companies pay thousands for audits like this. Braille would be wise to use this "free" analysis to their advantage.
@LovelyBassGuitar-uw2yc
@LovelyBassGuitar-uw2yc 4 ай бұрын
I don't think they're worried. 😅
@Cthooligan
@Cthooligan 4 ай бұрын
@LovelyBassGuitar-uw2yc Based on those numbers and YoY decline, they probably should be
@wybuchowyukomendant
@wybuchowyukomendant 4 ай бұрын
And do what, quit scientology? They can`t improve their situation, period.
@Cthooligan
@Cthooligan 4 ай бұрын
@@wybuchowyukomendant I was speaking more about their content release schedule and format style. If you have an issue with the connection to Scientology, then yes you are right, there is nothing to be done. Highly doubtful Aaron will drop his beliefs just to appease KZfaq subscribers.
@LovelyBassGuitar-uw2yc
@LovelyBassGuitar-uw2yc 4 ай бұрын
@@Cthooligan There's a fatal flaw in the numbers. They constantly increase as people discover older episodes.
@captainshiner42
@captainshiner42 4 ай бұрын
I just got into skating at age 42 last year, and Braille was my go-to YT channel for learning how to skateboard. After learning about Aaron's ties to Scientology, I've started to become very leery of Aaron and Braille, in general. I've also noticed that he's in like ZERO of the main channel's videos, and has been MIA for quite a minute now.
@timotialban2688
@timotialban2688 4 ай бұрын
Hoe is it to skate at 42. I am 40 and I was a skater from 13 to 27. I always wanted to come back someday when I felt ready. Is it safe how is it. I am scared that is old.
@blonczonk
@blonczonk 4 ай бұрын
@@Ajunkdrawerchannelnah i don’t fw this comment, uplift your fellow humans, don’t punch down
@fyjypko4207
@fyjypko4207 4 ай бұрын
@@Ajunkdrawerchanneli dont think a 40 year old man cares about his style, they care about having fun and feeling young again. Its like starting cycling again yeah as a retired bike racer i can tell how long have you been sitting on a bike but why care if people are enjoying themselves, it doesnt affect me that a 50 year old has a 10 grand race ready bike so why care about whats he doing with his free time
@fyjypko4207
@fyjypko4207 4 ай бұрын
@@Ajunkdrawerchannel its fine man just think a second before posting a hatefull/mean coment if it really needs to be said out loud or if its something to just think about and keep in your head. Like even if you think something is stupid but someone really enjoys it, just let them do then if it doesnt affect you personally
@matthewbrandon267
@matthewbrandon267 4 ай бұрын
I've noticed once again that AK has disappeared once again out of know where. When nugget left I knew more people would leave. I havnt seen Ricky really at all either
@iblastyou4819
@iblastyou4819 4 ай бұрын
2016 was such a gold mine for Skate KZfaqrs (which was the year I was skating the most myself). It’s weird to see where all that went.
@R0B690
@R0B690 4 ай бұрын
Was bound to happen eventually. With the scientology thing and also imagine coming up with 7 ideas a day like Gabe does and the other guys dont really help. Lost a lot of good characters along the way, not just Lance, also Doug, Fetty, Carlos, McNug, Mo etc. The energy used to be higher and they would just have fun with videos. They have an entire skatepark which they hardly ever use to its potential. Not as much actual skating, no custom ramp builds anymore, no floor is lava. The guys left are still cool but does seem like sometimes they dont try in videos or dont want to do them. Probably because the ideas are worse than ever. Maybe they should upload less but come up with better ideas. Weird boards and flat ground games of skate get boring af. Just my thoughts.
@shanebreezy4453
@shanebreezy4453 4 ай бұрын
It went downhill when they let fetty go.
@_t_f_
@_t_f_ 4 ай бұрын
@@shanebreezy4453 but Fetty AKA Jason Semmel is a creeper.
@lucasferrell7793
@lucasferrell7793 4 ай бұрын
I finally stopped watching because of the effort dynamic. You're totally right that Gabe is trying super hard, and then you have dudes who can't pry their eyes away from the phone long enough to be in the video. I like all of the guys who skate for them, but it's just uncomfortable to watch sometimes when you can tell that some of them really don't want to be there.
@shanebreezy4453
@shanebreezy4453 4 ай бұрын
@@_t_f_ nah that's what they want you to think
@_t_f_
@_t_f_ 4 ай бұрын
@@shanebreezy4453 I mean that’s a pretty 🤡 thing to say but sure, buddy.
@00ffdc
@00ffdc 4 ай бұрын
I started skateboarding kind of late in life, when I was 22. This was in 2016. I subscribed mostly for the videos with Lance. They were superb. Lance was a person I could relate too, i.e. an older dude, who's just learning how to skate. When he quit the channel quickly degraded into dumb monotonous videos for 12 y.o. kids. Certainly it wasn't appealing to an adult person. So I unsubscribed in circa 2018. And the whole scientology situation was part of the reason, too. So no wonder the channel went downhill at some point.
@lopli12
@lopli12 4 ай бұрын
For me, the biggest problem that Braile currently has is the quality of the video editing. The episodes are too long and boring. This may sound a little strange, but that's not why I watched Braille to watch someone ride a board for 90% of a 30-minute episode. I watched them for the people who participated in it. That's why the Skate Everything Wars series was my favorite. You could spend time with these guys and the riding itself was limited to a few minutes at the end of the episode, or series where they tried completely new things like the drift bike episodes where it was all about having fun. Currently, the editing of episodes is a disaster. Times have changed and no one wants to watch 30-minute episodes on YT, where most of the time it's "boring" and the people appearing in the episode behave as if they were recording to complete the task, not to have fun. Besides, these are also no longer the same people as before, the lineup has changed a lot in a short period and the current Braille has little in common with the one from 2016, although I think that even with a changed team with better scripting and editing it would still be possible to make this channel something better.
@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431
@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431 4 ай бұрын
The last video I watched was titled something like kickflip on a board with 50 risers, and it was like 15 minutes into the video before the actual kickflip, and I just had no desire to watch 15 minutes of filler just to watch the one interesting thing I wanted to see.
@illrobbzilla
@illrobbzilla 4 ай бұрын
Floor is lava, skatepark tours, worst board, those are my favorite kind of videos. Trying to kickflip something for 10 minutes, having a kickflip off, these are the boring ones I skip
@jerrythealien9106
@jerrythealien9106 4 ай бұрын
Check out Edi Edison's skate KZfaq channel!!! He's based on Denver you may like his stuff
@byswartz
@byswartz 4 ай бұрын
Losing Fetty and Carlos were big hits to the channel as they were heavily featured in "learning to skate" videos and were the most relatable personalities on the channel. Lance was the main filmer and producer, so there was a big style shift in the videos after he left.
@_t_f_
@_t_f_ 4 ай бұрын
Fetty AKA Jason Semmel is a creeper.
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 4 ай бұрын
yeah and then lets not forget Mogely and Chris
@mgibuk
@mgibuk 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking this, earlier I watched the full length penny board video and Gabe could barely even get anyone to ride it, whereas you know in the past Carlos would have been taking it down the 5 stair and Lance would have made everyone have a game of skate on it while making goofy jokes throughout.
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 4 ай бұрын
@@mgibuk Bro........ the Carlos Era was PEAK I cannot lie, I love all the skaters on this channel but brahh..... there was a really obvious time when things were constantly fire and high energy not just for the sake of high energy but becayse people were actually fired up!
@MoofyYT
@MoofyYT 4 ай бұрын
tbf fetty kind of had to go because of stuff outside of work. This video missed a hell of a lot of controversial stuff. I do miss the old braille though. The turnover in members kind of lost my interest in sticking with the channel. Now I may watch the odd video but it really doesn't have the same substance and value they used to.
@jessnacki
@jessnacki 4 ай бұрын
I got the opportunity to skate on the Braille channel at the end of September in 2022. I basically played the “girl” card bc they claimed they were looking for a female to add to the channel. Which ultimately seemed to be more of a lie than a truth. I cannot speak into Aaron bc wasn’t there although I was under the impression he would be, (in fact when I emailed him after the fact he had no idea that I was coming organization there seems to be quite poor) I can say that all the other guys were extremely nice and kind. When I asked questions or brought up ideas of improvement I could see in their eyes and timid answers that they didn’t have much choice in most matters. That being said I wish the best for Braille, would definitely visit again if asked, and still hope one day they add a woman to their squad.
@FunSk8chick
@FunSk8chick 4 ай бұрын
They definitely need a woman on there squad, had a female in a recent video maybe she’ll get added to the squad
@IchDuForeverExplorering
@IchDuForeverExplorering 4 ай бұрын
There was cloey i think was her name, the girl with the wig, then rickys snowboard girfriend, than there was dan corgins girlfiend hayley isaac, and there is uzi
@neonblack211
@neonblack211 4 ай бұрын
@@IchDuForeverExplorering none of those people were actually part of the team. Not that I think it really matters, this is Aarons baby, with Gabe as the Nanny..... noone else in Braile has any say you can see that from the way they act, they are litterally just "at work" more and more recently noone looks like they are enjoying anything at all
@FunSk8chick
@FunSk8chick 4 ай бұрын
@@IchDuForeverExploreringlol can’t forget uzi
@ashleybrown4754
@ashleybrown4754 4 ай бұрын
@@IchDuForeverExplorering Gabe is much more of a female than Uzi is
@JimmyNuisance
@JimmyNuisance 4 ай бұрын
I stopped watching Braille the second I found out he was a scientologist. I'm not going to help fund that violent cult. Miscavige is an absolute monster, and the same goes for Tom Cruise. Plenty of other skate channels out there worth watching.
@James-nl5kn
@James-nl5kn 4 ай бұрын
I don't think filming almost everything in a private skatepark helps them bring in new viewers either. Some of the earlier videos were so successful because beginners wanting to get into skating could see how much fun you can have with your friends and meeting other people at your local skate park, or even just filming learning new tricks together in an empty parking lot. 99.9% of people, especially beginners, don't have access to a private park and it isn't an experience they can can relate to. Sure, it works for brands like Primitive, because their target audience is more experienced, core skaters who want to see super tech tricks on a.perfect indoor park ledge or whatever. I just don't think it works for the audience Braille is trying to appeal to.
@bakadavi3917
@bakadavi3917 4 ай бұрын
i totally agree. I started skating in 2020 and I really liked those videos. The braille house is cool but I can't relate to those videos. Having poor access to good skateparks made me lean towards freestyle and Andy anderson's videos as I can relate more and try tricks myself
@infinidominion
@infinidominion 4 ай бұрын
Imagine someone getting "into" scientology after the South Park episode aired? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 4 ай бұрын
Cannot tell if serious.
@MonkDave666
@MonkDave666 4 ай бұрын
As a hardcore Scientologist who absolutely knows all the ins and outs of the cult, from the Xenu story at OT3 level, to the truly horrific death of Lisa McPherson, to brutal policies such as disconnection, Aaron Kyro is an incredibly dangerous individual. If you reach OT3 and STILL believe everything you're being told, you're either completely brainwashed or know it's all bullshit but you've put so much money and time in to it, you have no choice but to carry on. This man should NOT be around children. Aaron considers anyone not a Scientologist to be a "Suppressive Person" and does not view the world like normal human beings. He got lucky with skateboarding but his is ABSOLUTELY using it to fund a dangerous cult.
@cfronin
@cfronin 4 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about Scientology, but I don't view the world like normal human beings either.
@TheDantheman12121
@TheDantheman12121 4 ай бұрын
Are you saying you are a scientologist
@MonkDave666
@MonkDave666 4 ай бұрын
@@TheDantheman12121 No sir, learn to read.
@Elk_____
@Elk_____ 4 ай бұрын
​@@MonkDave666you did say 'as a hardcore scientologist'... Sure reads like you're saying you're a Scientologist
@MonkDave666
@MonkDave666 4 ай бұрын
@@Elk_____ Learn to read sentences ser. I understand that grammar is no longer a thing for the younger generation, so that might be a problem for you.
@GotWub
@GotWub 4 ай бұрын
It's funny how you say his controversy was "unavoidable" but as someone who only really watched the big videos that got recommended, I never knew about any of the controversy. Learning about his scientology connection is a major turn off.
@PumperKrickel
@PumperKrickel 4 ай бұрын
I think he meant unavoidable as in like he can't avoid talking about it.
@GotWub
@GotWub 4 ай бұрын
@@PumperKrickelfair point
@williamdixon-gk2sk
@williamdixon-gk2sk 4 ай бұрын
All that may be, but in like '18-ish i was a homeless heroin addict. Aron, chris, and all the braille dudes were at the fremont park. They let me borrow a board, skate for like ten minutes, and didnt look down on me or treat me as anything but a fellow skater. It meant a lot then and now.
@lasagnahog7695
@lasagnahog7695 4 ай бұрын
"He was nice one time" is a hell of an endorsement...
@williamdixon-gk2sk
@williamdixon-gk2sk 4 ай бұрын
@lasagnahog7695 No, I'm giving my account. How I was treated, if only once, by this man and his company. All religions are wack, and money changes everything. It IS what you do when nobody's looking. Rephrase that, he was cool %100 of the time we interacted.
@isaacfenelon6755
@isaacfenelon6755 4 ай бұрын
​@@lasagnahog7695 Wow. He helped someone. He was kind and caring when no one was looking. What an asshole, right?!
@trentenmerrill5239
@trentenmerrill5239 3 ай бұрын
Skateboarding used to be so punk rock... You don't have to be partying, doing drugs, and drinking... But you don't also have to be the "Disney channel" of skateboarding. Pew pew shots fired!
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd
@ChickenJoe-tq6xd 3 ай бұрын
Same thing happened to surfing too, actually the same thing happened to punk too, the current punk scene represents the complete opposite of what it used to and most of them mirror the same views as every corporation, institution, celebrity, media, and political party in power
@abyzdoof8821
@abyzdoof8821 4 ай бұрын
amazing informative. i would’ve never got all this info in one sitting if it wasn’t for ur work. i’m new to skating, so it’s good to be informed, thank you!
@Shroomskyoffical
@Shroomskyoffical 4 ай бұрын
I Miss the days when they would find the kid with the most fucked shit in the skatepark and hooked them up with a new set of wheels, a deck, or a pair of shoes for doing a trick.
@DoorsInTheLabyrinth
@DoorsInTheLabyrinth 4 ай бұрын
This is interesting to me, since I only found the channel (or really started watching much of youtube, really) in 2020...for obvious reasons. Some of the team and guests I like, and some I don't. Sad to see some skaters go, I don't dislike Gabe the way most of the commenters here do, but I still watch the videos and usually enjoy them...literally clicked on this after watching the latest! Watching them inspired me to start learning last year (at the age of 45). I had considered buying my next board from them instead of my local, as a thank you/support of folks that got me into it. Though I have to say the Scientology thing definitely gives me pause. Anyway, rambling, good data dive here!
@McStick7
@McStick7 4 ай бұрын
yea gabe is one of my 3 fav
@Alex-eg6lx
@Alex-eg6lx 4 ай бұрын
So you really had Ricky take down a video for "stealing your content" when 100% of your content is made up of stolen videos that you don't get permission to use?
@tomf.cruise7464
@tomf.cruise7464 4 ай бұрын
A few things: 1. Ricky seems like a chill guy 2. Unfortunately I recall Ricky's video being a big nothingburger - he pulled an XQC and made very little commentary about anything, I honestly felt that I just rewatched Dumb Data's video again. Like 90% of the video was Ricky's blank face in the corner. 3. Re: stealing videos - it's disingenuous to compare Ricky's "React Andy" to Dumb Data, and Dumb Data's audits and statistics he creates. One is "press record and sit down for 30 minutes" the other takes tons of work to accomplish. I don't agree/disagree with takedowns, but let's be real one is significantly more tasteful than the other.
@Alex-eg6lx
@Alex-eg6lx 4 ай бұрын
@@tomf.cruise7464 Dude Dumb Datas entire video was a nothing burger he just said "Brailles views have gone down along with other skateboarding youtubers and also Aaron is a scientologist" if ricky cut out sections it looks like he's ducking touchy subjects not cutting stuff out is what pretty much every response video on youtube does. Its not disengenous at all to compare the two dumb data literally stole brailles footage to badmouth them by cries when someone whos part of braille reacts. XQC walks away mid video and comes back halfway through if anyones being disengenous its you for acting like thats the same as a response video to someone calling out your friends and stealing your footage to do it then crying that you stole their stolen footage
@tomf.cruise7464
@tomf.cruise7464 4 ай бұрын
​@@Alex-eg6lx Bro come on. If you think this video can be reduced to a single sentence, then IDK what to tell you. Dumb Data obviously went through some real interesting statistics regarding Braille's top videos, lifetime performance, events that Braille had that lined up with interesting math, etc. Like, I get it, if you think math and statistics is boring, stupid and nerdy, then maybe this is not the video for you. There's just no way these 2 vids are comparable. > " if ricky cut out sections it looks like he's ducking touchy subjects not cutting stuff out is what pretty much every response video on youtube does", bro the WHOLE VIDEO is a touchy subject for ricky lmao, this is his employer, he will absolutely not talk real shit. If you're going to be staring at the video like 90% of the time, just don't make it, this applies to every other terrible youtube reaction video, no skin off my nose if those video are eligible to be taken down > "dumb data literally stole brailles footage" - ok first and foremost, yes this is legal if you are actually using footage to enhance commentary (not being a crutch). All I am saying is that Ricky's video just provided very little substance, it was boring. If he actually talked more, or cut down the video in sections and added commentary on those sections, I'd be on your side. > "Its not disengenous at all to compare the two" - there's absolutely no world in which this is the case dude. One is sitting on your ass *silently*, the other is goddamn data gathering 6k videos for like 18 years and drawing fairly likely conclusions? > "XQC walks away mid video and comes back halfway through" and sits silently doing nothing > "if anyones being disengenous its you for acting like thats the same as a response video to someone calling out your friends and stealing your footage" - ricky's was a response video of someone calling out his friends? If I'm not mistaken, he was completely silent on the xenu section, Braille scandals, etc. boring. if you remove the "stealing footage" from this video, it would be an alright video, it's not a crutch at all; if you remove the "stealing footage" from ricky's video, there would be absolutely no video whatsoever. Does that make sense? Like idk don't repost the whole entire video again.
@Alex-eg6lx
@Alex-eg6lx 4 ай бұрын
@@tomf.cruise7464 Lmao youre definitely dumb data on an alt account. You just proved my point the whole video is a touchy subject so cutting parts out looks sus also i saw the original and it wasn't 90% silent and seeing his face and his reaction is part of the video. Honestly what do you want him to do talk over whats being said in the video for reaction videos you're supposed to be quiet while it plays and then talk about the points that stand out which is what he did. Taking footage without permisson for b roll is 100% not legal. If that's the case why don't i just download the new Starwars movie add some data on top and sell my own copies? People assume its legal because fair use laws are vague but if it ever came down to proving it in court 99% of youtubers including you would lose the case. Fair use is meant for news orgs commenting on small sections of video not youtubers getting free b roll. Remember when you made that entire video dedicated to gifted hater? If he was actually money hungry like you said and uploaded the section of his VOD where he was talking about you, then your video would have completely ruined the point of viewers watching his video since you played the entire thing. Your whole braille video was drawing likely conclusions thats how i was able to sum it up into an entire sentence all you did was crunch some numbers to use as filler content to get a higher ad rate. The fact that youre still saying walking away mid video is the same as watching the video and waiting for the parts that stand out is 100% disengenuous Also he wasn't silent on the scientology thing he just didnt break down every micro point like you to milk ad revenue If you remove stealing footage from your video it doesnt exist at all because no one is going to watch an excel spreadsheet for 30 minutes. The amount of cope here is insane
@Alex-eg6lx
@Alex-eg6lx 4 ай бұрын
@@tomf.cruise7464 Lol keep deleting my comments because you know youre wrong
@box3y
@box3y 4 ай бұрын
Some of these trends are unique to Braille, some are indicative of falling views for skateboarding and other content in general. A good deep dive! Love them or hate them, Braille was an introduction to skating for thousands of people of all ages. At the end of the day, more skateboarding is a good thing for all of us.
@HeyItsEmilyLove
@HeyItsEmilyLove 4 ай бұрын
When I realized he was a Scientologist is when I stopped watching Braille. I’ll never forget his video on their channel. Absolutely wild
@dustyyshellz1320
@dustyyshellz1320 4 ай бұрын
Also all the best skaters are gone from the channel, Chris Mcnug, Mogely etc.
@coreystack5655
@coreystack5655 4 ай бұрын
Carlos!!!
@coreystack5655
@coreystack5655 4 ай бұрын
Why is uzi still around lol, I think he's to lazy to care what's up
@donnytucker
@donnytucker 4 ай бұрын
What happened to mcnug? No one ever mentioned why he left.
@shanebreezy4453
@shanebreezy4453 4 ай бұрын
Fetty
@TheSquareOnes
@TheSquareOnes 4 ай бұрын
@@coreystack5655 I think their filming schedule gives a bad impression, recording so much in one day means that half the videos will be done while already exhausted. Everyone has to take a break to go sit for a bit sometimes, it's just that in his case most of those moments end up getting filmed to pad out uploads where other people are taking the focus. When it's his turn to actually put in effort he does some really great work too though.
@mrburns805
@mrburns805 4 ай бұрын
I remember watching Aaron’s first KZfaq video in my English class back in the day. Crazy that it’s already been 18 years. He had a unique and interesting style. I showed that video to several of my friends too.
@t3r083
@t3r083 4 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that you describe the skateboard tricks accurately.
@jaysant6958
@jaysant6958 4 ай бұрын
7:29 Does anyone know where that skate video called Mijos is? I used to have it but now don’t see it anywhere at all.
@joe_ferreira
@joe_ferreira Ай бұрын
it is also known as getofab 6 if you want to keep searching around.
@dariadayle
@dariadayle 4 ай бұрын
The fact that Aaron Kyro is a scientologist was a massive deal breaker. i already got weird vibes from the dude once his channel stared getting bigger past the original tutorial videos, but i had a bad feeling that it went deeper than that on a more insidious level. when i learned he was a scientologist a few years back i was like "i knew it! i knew something was wrong with that guy!". It makes me sad knowing how much money he gets from kids who buy stuff from his site and that a large portion of that goes to scientology. dude has brainwashed these kids and their parents into funding a super abusive and creepy cult.
@skhateanddestroy1252
@skhateanddestroy1252 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Steve Berra is too. As well as Jason Lee. I'm pretty sure a large portion of the skateboard industry is run by occultists. Just look at the symbology in logos and graphics. It's super obvious with Thrasher. Rob Dyrdek definitley gives off freemasonic vibes. It sucks that these weirdos have to ruin everything in our culture. It's all about contolling and influencing the masses to these freaks.
@erikreber3695
@erikreber3695 4 ай бұрын
There are so many things wrong with your statement. I hope it helps you sleep.
@user-un1bs9lo7v
@user-un1bs9lo7v 4 ай бұрын
@@erikreber3695found the Scientologist
@graalcloud
@graalcloud 4 ай бұрын
He's also jewish btw
@skhateanddestroy1252
@skhateanddestroy1252 4 ай бұрын
@@erikreber3695 Like what? Tell me how I am wrong. Thrasher is filled with satanic/occult imagery every month. They push drug and alcohol use constantly. Learn about the occult and the symbols they use, you will see it everwhere around you, especially in huge corporations. Look at the symbolism they use for the Berrics. It's right in your face if you have the eyes to see. There is a reason people like Dyrdek and Bam blow up and achieve fame and fortune. They chose the dark side, magick is real. Look at what has happened to Bam since he sold his soul. Look at what happens with anyone that gets involved with the occult, like Aleister Crowley. Eventually their lives take very dark turns. Look at most celebrities and famous musicians. Many openly admit they took the faustian bargain.
@slickmullet3891
@slickmullet3891 4 ай бұрын
Giving $1 to Scientology is crazy. But giving $1,000,000? Holy fuck that is mind blowing.
@jaybennett2740
@jaybennett2740 4 ай бұрын
When Fetty and Carlos was on the channel those were the good days.
@c1dtl39
@c1dtl39 4 ай бұрын
Yup!
@ultrawow65
@ultrawow65 4 ай бұрын
Fetty potter 😪
@aksel1581
@aksel1581 2 ай бұрын
both are pedos
@iamreptar4534
@iamreptar4534 4 ай бұрын
I started watching braille around it’s prime and they got me back into skating after a 10 ish year hiatus from it. I will always appreciate that part of braille. Lance was awesome too.
@RoyChewbacca
@RoyChewbacca 4 ай бұрын
As much as I hate scientology ( I didn't know about the association until ~2021), the videos where he taught the camera guy to skate were very inspirational. He clearly didn't skate much outside these clips, but he'd learn the tricks through persistence and tuition, which made me try harder myself. Kyro's personality was also positive - he didn't take himself too seriously and laughed a lot, which was quite endearing. There were also great interactions with kids at the local park, teaching tricks and giving away boards etc. I mostly switched off when they got their own skatepark. The guy behind the camera shouting "Oh" all the time is the worst.
@ethandimble5360
@ethandimble5360 3 ай бұрын
Or when they land a trick and he turns the camera around to film his reaction. Drives me insane
@gang6009
@gang6009 4 ай бұрын
people can say what they want but man, aaron taught me how to skate no other way about it and ill always be grateful for that
@richievaldez
@richievaldez 4 ай бұрын
My childhood best friend Julio Prieto was also in the video Mijos. Him and my other homies Evan Kuhn, Drew Tibbitts, and Matt Escamilla all died in a car crash together in 2005. Crazy to hear that video being brought up so many years later.
@Yoav_Sluhovsky
@Yoav_Sluhovsky 4 ай бұрын
as a skater who grew on the chanel it is amazing to me to see I was born exactly one month before it was created.
@dovesr0478
@dovesr0478 3 ай бұрын
I think you nailed the 3 major reasons why the channel is floundering: - Too much of the OG crew left. Lance was the biggest loss but also people like Nigel, Mowgli, Carlos, etc were very skilled skaters and had great personalities too. - No real direction in the videos mixed with low energy personalities. No hate against the new crew, they're good skaters but not good on camera. Again, totally nailed it by saying most of their modern videos are improvisational in nature, or at least come off that way. - Focus on quantity over quality. At this point Braille has completely exhausted all of their classic formulas. Right now their videos feel like content for the sake of content. Viewers aren't interested in the same old thing every day, especially as the KZfaq landscape has shifted towards very bombastic videos in the last few years. Of course the scientology thing will always be a shadow lurking over Aaron and his company. While I don't think it's a major cause for decline, it definitely rubs people the wrong way and has led to many viewers abandoning the channel.
@SavageGTI
@SavageGTI 4 ай бұрын
Very detailed, I loved their skate everything series when it started. You should analyze AndrewSchrock from Revive skateboarding because the skating industry is following a downward trend.
@chaddsinclairofficial
@chaddsinclairofficial 4 ай бұрын
bro forgot to mention the fetty potter situation!!!
@CleanCutAudio
@CleanCutAudio 4 ай бұрын
Two important things to mention are the skateboarding boom in 2020 due to Covid and the inevitable leveling out shortly after when everyone realizes how difficult skateboarding really is. This no doubt plays into the channel's parallel boom and leveling out. Maybe equally as important is KZfaq's introduction of and intense focus on Shorts, which have left many KZfaq channels with sharp decreases in their long-form content views and watch time as the platform rewards shorter, bite size content.
@Tincoco_
@Tincoco_ Ай бұрын
giving money to scientology is like paying for friends in a frat. what the actual fuck bro A MILLION DOLLARS??????????????????????????
@non_brewed_condiment
@non_brewed_condiment 4 ай бұрын
Thumbnails like that should carry a minimum sentence of 10 years in prison
@Mediocrityexe
@Mediocrityexe 4 ай бұрын
As is the song by NOFX, I too, believe in The Separation of Church and Skate
@FreestyleSkierMikey
@FreestyleSkierMikey 4 ай бұрын
Great video and analysis my guy 🤝
@StaticVapour590
@StaticVapour590 3 ай бұрын
Ever since Lance went off the channel, it died
@MicrowavedFurby
@MicrowavedFurby 3 ай бұрын
Some of you guys don't realize how insane Scientology is.
@fuckspace989
@fuckspace989 25 күн бұрын
✡️ is way worse
@sheaskateboarding
@sheaskateboarding 4 ай бұрын
I watched Braille for many years starting back in 2016. It was refreshing to watch skateboarding that was more about fun and progressing, instead of only gnarly parts. I think I started watching less as people started leaving, discontinuing of segments I enjoyed, and spending all their time at their warehouse instead of local parks.
@donkeyfacekilla1
@donkeyfacekilla1 4 ай бұрын
excellent video! You content is consistently great!
@evansuarez5432
@evansuarez5432 4 ай бұрын
The guy is overworking his employees. Those guys need some rest
@adoredpariah
@adoredpariah 4 ай бұрын
I subscribed to Braille for a short period there because it was nice to see him giving random kids some time on camera and it looked like he was using that indoor park for in person teaching, but I just got tired of seeing the style of videos they were uploading. That snippet at the end "don't go full youtube" really nails it I think, Braille's style always seems like it's one video away from a "I bought a million orbees" video. I didn't even know about the glass skateboard video, and honestly that makes me like the channel even less. Just a personal thing I suppose but I don't at all like that side of skateboarding (the death defying putting your body on the line for a 12 second video that will be forgotten about in a month kind of stuff).
@StuffnThings42
@StuffnThings42 4 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t look into other YT skate channels to see if they are experiencing the same decline over the last few years. The decline might be more related to skateboarding’s loss in popularity overall and a saturation of skate YT content and less about Braille itself. I do agree about the lack of energy and personality in their videos as of late. They’ve lost the fire that they once had.
@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431
@imaverageatgamesbutimostly3431 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, me and a lot of my friends have gotten bored with skateboarding content in general. I can see the overall trend dropping.
@methrecovery6922
@methrecovery6922 4 ай бұрын
Skateboarding is at an all time high rn there just isn't any good skateboard content anymore
@Jaydaboy709
@Jaydaboy709 4 ай бұрын
I think everybody in the skate community thinks of Aaron as a KZfaqr and not skater. In Skateboarding there are so many factors to make a successful skate company, Aaron has a huge following on KZfaq but branding and what you focus on for content is the most important. And what he did worked to build a business but skateboarding is very competitive and having a cool factor, good skating as the main focus and the name is really what people wanna get behind.
@resevoirdog
@resevoirdog 4 ай бұрын
And countless more leave their family for scientology and destroy families. Yay Aaron...
@IShredESP
@IShredESP 4 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget about the drama with Fetty (who was one of the better skaters and a fan favorite) being exposed as a pedo.
@Signal_in_the_noise
@Signal_in_the_noise 3 ай бұрын
Someone in their 20’s dating a 16 year old is not what ped0philia is. Morally wrong ? Sure. Illegal ? Yah. Weird and creepy and predatory ? Sure is. But Pedo means attraction to someone usually 12 or younger, pre-pubescent…
@420RittzBish
@420RittzBish 3 ай бұрын
You killed me with that whole "historians" thing. Too funny lmao.
@stevenp1258
@stevenp1258 4 ай бұрын
He’s a Professional Scientologist from the San Francisco Bay Area
@nilo_river
@nilo_river 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for another impressive analysis.
@fartnloud7411
@fartnloud7411 28 күн бұрын
Giving the money to Scientology instead of paying employees fairly for grinding 1-2 videos per day... That's why there's an exodus.
@josiahamaze
@josiahamaze 4 ай бұрын
The end haha "never go full youtube"
@TknoFilms
@TknoFilms 4 ай бұрын
As a Braille viewer I think they lost a lot of their shine woth loosing a lot of their cast along the years and with Aaron being less on camera as well. I think Braille really needs to evolve their editing structure, and find a young enthusiastic cast that is more relatable to new viewers. I love all the guys that are still there but unfortunately I think they have lost their energy with age and I think Braille needs to rebrand to adapt to the new generation.
@Linothe3rd
@Linothe3rd 2 ай бұрын
He is Scientology personified. Streets is destroying this organization in LA
@sycadelic666
@sycadelic666 4 ай бұрын
Damn, this doc has pulled in more views in the first 24 hours than any videos Braille has put out in the last month. That must say something…
@jonlavigne3270
@jonlavigne3270 4 ай бұрын
I don't know about anybody else, buu I stopped wayching Braille stuff because of the Scientology link.
@_t_f_
@_t_f_ 4 ай бұрын
I knew about it but didn’t know how deep it went (Aaron likely donating HUGE amounts to the cult even recently). I really jumped the fuck off board when “Fetty Potter” also known as JASON SEMMEL was fired due to having relations with a 14 year old minor. … All while Braille was doing in-house skate lessons and skate parties with minors and children in their building. CREEEEEPY
@Jason_Bacon
@Jason_Bacon 4 ай бұрын
Carlos also caused for drama by being a pedo according to insiders.
@dirkcreates
@dirkcreates 4 ай бұрын
You mean Fetty
@Jason_Bacon
@Jason_Bacon 4 ай бұрын
@@dirkcreates no, from someone who worked there and saw Carlos and how he was around the kids during the skate school days. Fetty was just a dirty stoner.
@_t_f_
@_t_f_ 4 ай бұрын
@@Jason_Bacon “Fetty Potter” JASON SEMMEL 100% certified creeper. I never saw it from Carlos tho, so idk.
@dirkcreates
@dirkcreates 4 ай бұрын
@@Jason_Bacon was unaware of Carlos but it’s known fetty was caught with a 14 year old girl. Look it up
@jjay350
@jjay350 4 ай бұрын
Think you mean Fetty
@senmage
@senmage Ай бұрын
21:30 Ngl I did get less interested in Braille when Lance left. Lance felt the most relatable at the time when I was trying to skate and he was genuinely funny.
@WorkThrowaway
@WorkThrowaway 4 ай бұрын
I would say it's clear that Scientology played some role in the success of the channel. Since I found out about it years ago, I stopped viewing them all together. This was around the time Fetty and Carlos left. Their quality went way down the drain since then. A lot of their current subs must also be legacy subs from years ago. If you have 6 million subs and not hitting 1 million views a video, you are clearly not understanding your audience.
@jjay350
@jjay350 4 ай бұрын
Yup, I also stopped watching when Carlos left. End of an era.
@pinkavyek
@pinkavyek 4 ай бұрын
bro Aaron is a scientologist???
@pinkavyek
@pinkavyek 4 ай бұрын
@@onehandwashestheother that's actually wild, I never knew
@frozennorth3426
@frozennorth3426 4 ай бұрын
Sooper dooper scientology cult guy
@skhateanddestroy1252
@skhateanddestroy1252 4 ай бұрын
Steve Berra and Jason Lee are in the cult as well.
@jjay350
@jjay350 4 ай бұрын
@@skhateanddestroy1252 Really Jason Lee? Didn't know that.
@skhateanddestroy1252
@skhateanddestroy1252 4 ай бұрын
@@jjay350 He claims he no longer is, which actually makes sense if you think about it. He hasn't had any big acting roles in a while now. It's just like Freemasonry, you will find success in your career for pledging allegiance to the man downstairs. Pretty creepy stuff, makes you think about Hollywierd. If you look into it, you will find lots of strange deaths aroubd big celebrities, like they make literal sacrifices for fame and fortune. I'm convinced Dyrdek is a Mason. I remember reading an interview with Bo Turner where he talks about his father being a high level one. Anyways, just google Jason Lee Scientology and you will see a bunch of articles about it.✌️
@happyinlifeee
@happyinlifeee 4 ай бұрын
I gave them a chance when i got back into skateboarding (i started 95 n skated for over 10yrs before taking a break) but it was hard to accept them as i had no idea what had happened to all the brands i knew but eventually i did, then i saw them inviting pro skaters only to be condescending to them there was no respect, ontop of that i accepted lance was not a skater so he didnt know better but still liked the guy. He leaves and u can tell gabe wanted that so bad to be the one closer to aron and be the front man, i found it so annoying that i stopped watching but would every now and then, but couldnt stand him, his laughter went from so many styles until he found it and his inability to blend in he stood out as a sore thumb trying to be a leader too poor guys u can tell he was bossy to all skaters. Fetty happened they didnt cover it, carlos also didnt want to go in depth as why, mogley and mcnug but they didnt even acknowledge him, if u commented ur opinion n it wasnt what they wanted they would be passive aggressive. Bottom line theyre just skaters not pro skaters or business ppl.
@Inexpressable
@Inexpressable 4 ай бұрын
Aaron is also a fucking scientologist. Lmao.
@illrobbzilla
@illrobbzilla 4 ай бұрын
Gabe is a little bitch. Same here, I left when he took over the camera and kept yelling and being annoying
@MultiGameSystem
@MultiGameSystem 3 ай бұрын
I was a pretty dedicated Braille fan a few years ago I dont really remember why I stopped watching.
@OldManTheseDays
@OldManTheseDays 3 ай бұрын
As far as I’m concerned, there were two moments where Braille took a huge dive: 1) When Lance left, that was the end (as far as I’m concerned). Lance was the one that brought the humor and relatability. He was fun to watch. 2) The controversy surrounding Fetty dating an underage girl. Big ick moment, and a huge break of trust from a company that has a large underage audience.
@macdog1
@macdog1 3 ай бұрын
Lance is too attracted to Xenu sadly
@ween2378
@ween2378 3 ай бұрын
@@macdog1 bruh
@macdog1
@macdog1 3 ай бұрын
@@ween2378 issa fact
@directives
@directives 4 ай бұрын
This video does not answer the most important question: does Scientology actually help with someone's success (ie. powerful industry people working behind the scenes for you) or does it just turn you into a crazy person obsessed with making money?
@graalcloud
@graalcloud 4 ай бұрын
It's like any pyramid scheme, everyone fighting to be at a better position in the hierarchy but the majority are suckers at the bottom of it
@KyleJett
@KyleJett 4 ай бұрын
I still wonder what Lance is up to. I was never a subscriber of Braille, but loved the videos featuring Lance. Huge loss!
@bez_
@bez_ 4 ай бұрын
Being a Scientologist also
@SteezyMcCheezie
@SteezyMcCheezie 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this my guy 👏
@joeybroadway6524
@joeybroadway6524 4 ай бұрын
Thx for posting!
@chrisroberts
@chrisroberts 4 ай бұрын
I thinks I saw myself! 🙋‍♂️
@arikuusela6716
@arikuusela6716 4 ай бұрын
25:15 I'm a bit older skater and most of my age people don't skate because they are afraid to get injured. Not the injury itself, but mostly because you can't go to work and all the other "grown up" stuff.
@febothesir
@febothesir 4 ай бұрын
Nailed it for me. Takes time to recover which is fine, but it's hard to live while hurt sometimes.
@paulanthony1689
@paulanthony1689 4 ай бұрын
Informative vid. Thank you!
@fjordan2345
@fjordan2345 4 ай бұрын
Dude people can react to your video as long as they are adding their own thoughts/opinions. Its not stealing your video, it's reacting to your thoughts. This is what happens when you talk about controversial topics - I can give you a thousand examples of this. Be happy people are reacting to and watching your content
@yikes6969
@yikes6969 4 ай бұрын
no one cares
@Jeffrey_Tyler
@Jeffrey_Tyler 4 ай бұрын
JD is the only reason I will click on a Braille video. That kid is sick and I want to see him go places. Ricky Glasser is cool too but not enough draw to watch a Braille video. Gabe seems like a really cool and chill dude that really wants JD to thrive. Uzi and Glo are just there for a paycheck. Aaron Kyro is just obnoxious.
@hectorjuarez6723
@hectorjuarez6723 4 ай бұрын
I have a feeling Ricky is leaving soon, I always felt like glow and uzi seem really out of place. I wonder what jds dad thinks about their affiliation with scientology. If he's not a member as well I wonder if he would pull jd out or he grows up and realizes what's going on
@Number-id8ld
@Number-id8ld 4 ай бұрын
Peak moment...guy dropping in and almost getting his gut slashed open by a shard of glass. A high price to pay for views...
@KTLBT
@KTLBT 3 ай бұрын
he's the victim of a malicious cult. I think he's a genuinely good person and overall I admire his achievements. I hope he gets out of scientology. those people are relentless manipulators.
@hymerdl1
@hymerdl1 4 ай бұрын
I actually used to watch Braille around and for awhile after the peak (2016-2019) I used to skateboard as a kid and watching their videos made me nostalgic in a way (and us millennials, we love our nostalgia). My anecdotal reasons for not watching, and no longer being subscribed to the channel are: 1. I formed an attachment to the personalities they had at the time. They were all unique, everyone had their own flavor and you knew what to expect. Carlos, Lance, Nigel, Fetty, Uzi Dan, Aaron and even Gabe who I thought was obnoxious, but he was kinda like the necessary heel of the bunch and I respected it. I might've missed a couple but you get the point. They all had very big personalities and like with the original Marvel's avengers cast, you formed an attachment to them. As they slowly started going their own direction so did I. I did not connect with the people they brought in and I lost interest. Glo (I think his name is) I found particularly grating and remember exiting a video 3 minutes in just because I found him to be so annoying. To be clear, I'm sure he's a good dude, and he is a solid skater, but I wouldn't hang out with him. 2. Aaron's seemingly increased involvement with scientology I thought was weird, and like you said in your video, the timing of him asking for money, to him achieving whatever rank or merit or whatever with that group didn't sit well with me. 3. This is arguably the biggest reason: They oversaturated their own market. The daily uploads got repetitive, uninspired, boring, and the people in them looked absolutely exhausted and uninterested. ^those are all reasons I stopped watching, the reason I unsubscribed altogether and why I won't watch another Braille video: 4. I assumed with all the views the channel was getting that those guys were eating well, and then stuff from former skaters of the braille team started getting leaked that they barely considered the job to even be worth it and it was just passion for skateboarding keeping them going. I don't know how true this is, and of course it's subjective, but I started connecting the dots for how much of the ad revenue was potentially going towards Aaron's personal ambitions that aren't related to skateboarding rather than his own guys keeping the machine running and the thought of that just made me not want to support them any longer.
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