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Rip and Chase demonstrate the correction for improper back angle in The Squat.
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@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime 4 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that Chase isn't an actual human. He's a bio-android created by Rip for the purposes of training demonstrations.
@dacoldest3896
@dacoldest3896 2 жыл бұрын
Bre is the female version of Rips android lol
@jd0879
@jd0879 2 жыл бұрын
@@dacoldest3896 Bre and Chase should mate then
@dacoldest3896
@dacoldest3896 2 жыл бұрын
@@jd0879 she should mate with me first
@KimTownsel
@KimTownsel 6 жыл бұрын
I switched to this method a few months ago after powerlifting for several years now (USPA the last three). People tell me I'm leaning too far over. I just tell them I'm doing it a different way. I ended up breaking my own state record yesterday for my age and weight class. I look forward to training for next October's meet to see what I can do with this form. While I didn't add a lot of weight on the bar with this method, I remained injury-free. At my age and my goal of doing this for the long-term, avoiding a serious injury is primary for me.
@mikedeek
@mikedeek 6 жыл бұрын
Looked on your page for a video .. get on it girl
@KhaNguyen-qs2dq
@KhaNguyen-qs2dq 6 жыл бұрын
YASS KWEEN
@Luke41lol
@Luke41lol 5 жыл бұрын
HIP DRAAAAAAAHVEEEEU
@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime 4 жыл бұрын
It's now next October. How's the training going?
@CrazyLocoInsane1
@CrazyLocoInsane1 4 жыл бұрын
@@JackgarPrime LOL do you expect these people to respond after they pat themselves on the back its almost 2020 if people arent trying to cancel you they are ignoring you.
@fshenk1
@fshenk1 5 жыл бұрын
Lifted in high school athletics (incorrectly), "trained" on Nautilus machines for a few years in midlife. Now 70 years old and after a 30 year layoff started using Rip's method (very tentatively) 4 months ago. I cant believe how well I am progressing. Was always told that muscle and strength loss could not be reversed in old age. Still a little doubt but results don't lie... Carrying on! Thank you so much Mr. Rippetoe and crew for turning my life around!
@bez1196
@bez1196 5 жыл бұрын
So, how has your progress been so far?
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 8 жыл бұрын
These videos are a great compliment to reading the book. The book does a great job at explaining the correct methods to the strong lifts but to have Rippetoe walk you through the form and motion really helps too. Thanks.
@CorporalDeepDick
@CorporalDeepDick 7 жыл бұрын
"Go ahead and show us the right way, Chase."
@_michaelkern
@_michaelkern 4 жыл бұрын
6'2" with a 36" inseam (long femurs). This is the only video on KZfaq that finally made my bar path perfectly straight.
@michaelp8745
@michaelp8745 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation between this and the upright torso. The “rip” squat is so much easier for most people and more effective on posterior chain
@AndrewArifakis
@AndrewArifakis 8 жыл бұрын
HIP DRAHVE
@nickenspoliticalramblings4836
@nickenspoliticalramblings4836 6 жыл бұрын
HYIP DRAHVE?
@dereksmallsuk
@dereksmallsuk 6 жыл бұрын
@@nickenspoliticalramblings4836 No!!! HIIPHPP DRAIHHVE!!!!!!
@antoniettamancinelli6581
@antoniettamancinelli6581 5 жыл бұрын
😄😂
@NeuronActivation
@NeuronActivation 3 жыл бұрын
LEAD WITH THE HYIPS
@samr7542
@samr7542 8 жыл бұрын
I have buttwink problems AND I'm lactose intolerant. Send help.
@ZidaneSteiner
@ZidaneSteiner 5 жыл бұрын
Sam R If you fix your veritcal back angle all these problems will go away.
@canefan17
@canefan17 8 жыл бұрын
Fixing my eye gaze (per instructions in SS) and turning my feet out did more for my squat than anything else out there. In fact I think the eye gaze (looking at a spot on ground 6 ft or so out) solves the back angle problem that so many have.
@rickderico356
@rickderico356 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing. These little cues make so much difference.
@Francesco-cj3oi
@Francesco-cj3oi 2 жыл бұрын
Damn mirrors inside commercial gyms make that very hard for most people unfortunately
@thereisnotryv1971
@thereisnotryv1971 3 жыл бұрын
That's incredible. I never understood hearing "Don't turn your squat into a good morning. Stand up straight all the way down". Why shouldn't I be training my back muscles too? It's great to hear someone actually clear this up. Thanks Rip!
@tom6567
@tom6567 2 жыл бұрын
Man I feel the difference after starting to squat properly as he explained. Feel stronger and safer!!
@Giantstalking
@Giantstalking 6 жыл бұрын
damn that difference of 15 degrees had me going from a half squat to a full squat.
@miguelrmusic
@miguelrmusic 8 жыл бұрын
I love hearing Rip talk.
@mugetzu
@mugetzu 5 жыл бұрын
Thankful I rediscovered this video. Always thought me leaning forward at the top was because the bar was 'too heavy'. Now I remembered why I started to train like that in the first place.
@ryandicecco4194
@ryandicecco4194 6 жыл бұрын
Makes perfect sense! Overextending my erector spinae is why I currently cant squat without pain, to the point where I cant even unrack 100kg because my lower back is so tight ive developed a pelvic tilt. Thebar is now pushing on these muscles and isnt going through the hips anymore....
@thecastle09
@thecastle09 6 жыл бұрын
omg i finally figured this out today and it was great...wow..huge difference.
@paulyd5775
@paulyd5775 2 жыл бұрын
Watching rip makes me feel like I’m getting yelled at by my teacher for not reading the textbook
@martinirving3824
@martinirving3824 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's hard to tell what the bar is doing relative to the midfoot because the subject is holding the bar at an angle across his back so that it is further forward on the left and further back on the right. I know I struggle with this particular lack of symmetry. I tend to squat with upright body and am clearly weak at it. I can do a lot more with dead lift, which I do non-Sumo. Maybe the idea is to emulate deadlift form in the squat? But I know some super powerlifters do Sumo deadlift in order to keep upright body.
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 6 жыл бұрын
There's no weight on the bar, so the bar shouldn't be over the mid-foot. It's the combined center of mass of the lifter and the barbell that will be over the mid foot. As weight is added to the bar, the CCOM approximates the position of the bar and the bar gets closer to the mid foot.
@martinirving3824
@martinirving3824 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I'm observing the lack of symmetry in how the "weightless" bar is being held across the back.
@oliverallen5324
@oliverallen5324 5 жыл бұрын
Notice, right before he begins he sets his hips back in position and the proceeds. The only way to keep the back angle the entire movement is doing it this way as the bar path will wriggle otherwise coming out of the hole.
@bobweber4140
@bobweber4140 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you rip that slight tilt back says it all
@paulbeatty9676
@paulbeatty9676 4 ай бұрын
Damn! Chase is a machine! Im still working on getting my knees set and not have them move forward.
@joaocasqueiropt
@joaocasqueiropt Жыл бұрын
Depending on the size of body segments and squat style, we should lean more or less forward from the beginning of the back squat, before descent. (a bit more for the low bar and slightly less for the high bar). its practically impossible to be perfectly upright in a back squat. A good strategy may involve starting the movement with a slight hinge/inclination of the trunk and maintaining a neutral spine from the beginning of the movement, instead of tucking the tailbone, which not only occupies degrees of flexion but also leads to the separation of the diaphragm from the pelvic floor. Assuming the lean from the beggining is the key.
@billyt9921
@billyt9921 5 ай бұрын
I wish there was someone in the UK that taught the squat like this. Its difficult to learnby watching a video because you dont have Rip there pointing out the subtle errors that ones making.
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 5 ай бұрын
There are good coaches in the UK. Go to coaching.startingstrength.com
@Trimiant
@Trimiant 7 жыл бұрын
MY squat execution is pretty similar to picking up something I've dropped. Just a quick dip down and up reaching between my thighs. But in the gym I hold the bar ofcourse.
@KoYoungSe
@KoYoungSe 6 жыл бұрын
Always learning something.
@cmdrfunk
@cmdrfunk 8 жыл бұрын
That t-shirt should have an arrow pointing at Rip.
@adrianlongo6272
@adrianlongo6272 7 жыл бұрын
The "wrong way" looks like a much more controlled squat rather then the "right way" which looks like a dive bombed low bar.
@drb4074
@drb4074 7 жыл бұрын
Really? Watch again and see where his knees "set" for the bottom position. Which do you think is better for the knees under a heavy load? Out in front of the toe, or behind the toe?
@adrianlongo6272
@adrianlongo6272 7 жыл бұрын
D rB have you seen olympic weightlifters slam on dorsiflexion under heavy load?
@tuanomsoc
@tuanomsoc 7 жыл бұрын
Adrian l forgot we are all Olympic weightlifters
@adrianlongo6272
@adrianlongo6272 7 жыл бұрын
tuanomsoc weightlifters are not human you must be right
@trulsommen3893
@trulsommen3893 7 жыл бұрын
Main difference is that the average Joe is not nearly as mobile in the ankle as an olympic wightlifter
@NhemF
@NhemF 3 жыл бұрын
Here after someone complained about my squat, vindication feels good
@MajesticSkywhale
@MajesticSkywhale 3 жыл бұрын
well, this is low-bar powerlifting squat, so if you're squatting to get bigger quads this isn't how to squat
@Bucky0012
@Bucky0012 3 жыл бұрын
@@MajesticSkywhale squating like this trains the spinal erectors
@Arlefar
@Arlefar 5 жыл бұрын
1:48 Squat! Good! Rack it!
@LyellWalker
@LyellWalker 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I notice here is the bar path on the low bar squat also moves forward over the tip of the toes/over the knees. It starts in the midfoot but moves forward. Whereas on the high bar or more vertical squat, the bar path stays over the midfoot. Does that matter? I'm a newbie to the low bar squat and get frustrated that after I video myself, the bar moves forward.
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 5 жыл бұрын
Lyell, the bar position relative to the mid-foot will depend on how much weight is on the bar. What's actually over the mid-foot is the combined center of mass of lifter and the barbell. As the weight on the bar gets heavier, the bar moves closer to a straight line over mid-foot.
@LyellWalker
@LyellWalker 5 жыл бұрын
@@startingstrength Thank you! I've been focusing so much on just trying to get the bar path perfect that I haven't started to add weight. That will change this afternoon.
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 5 жыл бұрын
@@LyellWalker As long as you're not losing your balance and having to take a step forward or back, you're probably okay. Start adding weight.
@rickmcmullen6360
@rickmcmullen6360 7 жыл бұрын
Will this help me keep my knees from going past my toes? I'm tall (6'-2") and have trouble keeping my knees behind my toes when I squat. I never thought about it but when I observed his knees doing the "improper squat," his knees tended to go beyond his toes.
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 7 жыл бұрын
Knees will go forward of the toes for most people. The degree will depend on anthropometry. If you get the correct back angle, the knees will be in the right spot.
@SantaWithAnM16
@SantaWithAnM16 5 жыл бұрын
I have a question,, my kness stay back dont past 1inch on my toes? Am i not shoving my knees out..
@Aextatic
@Aextatic 3 жыл бұрын
Rip is amazing
@bjornfsteen
@bjornfsteen 8 жыл бұрын
Should I assume similar advice applies for those of us who prefer a higher bar position?
@signs80
@signs80 8 жыл бұрын
no, for high bar you stay upright as possible otherwise you'll be pushing off your toes
@chinarep1
@chinarep1 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the same advice applies for a high bar squat. By that I mean your center of mass (this will be in the position of the bar if the bar is heavy) should stay over your center of balance (the middle of your foot). Because the bar is higher up on your torso during a high bar squat, you will need to keep your torso more upright than you do for a low bar squat in order to keep your center of mass over the middle of your foot. Keeping your torso "as upright as possible" will probably have you pushing off your heels or, if you really tried to follow that advice closely, will have you falling over backwards.
@Mversluis93
@Mversluis93 6 жыл бұрын
The barpath is far from ‘over mid foot’ tho...
@AcceleratingUniverse
@AcceleratingUniverse 3 жыл бұрын
physiologically impossible for the bar to be over midfoot when it's lighter than you
@NeuronActivation
@NeuronActivation 3 жыл бұрын
Once there's weight on the bar, you'll be able to fix this issue
@isay19v
@isay19v 7 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that if u pause between 3:33 and 3:36 you will see that in the (wrong form) the bar is on mid foot and over the knee and in the (correct) form the bar is in front of the foot which i think it's not what the technique is all about...
@greyhound4204
@greyhound4204 7 жыл бұрын
he is using an empty bar...so his barycentre isn't in the bar line of movement
@chrisbuesnell3428
@chrisbuesnell3428 6 жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated. For some reason you automatically do it wrong. once you drop the angle it feels a lot easier. You need greater shoulder flexability and its hard to look down .
@brownerthemonk
@brownerthemonk 7 жыл бұрын
One thine I don't quite understand is, that if you pause the video at 3:36 the bar looks to have moved over the toes rather than mid foot.
@chinarep1
@chinarep1 6 жыл бұрын
It's because the center of mass stays over the middle of the foot. If Chase had been doing this with his normal work set weight (>500 lbs) then his center of mass would basically be in the same position as the bar so the phrase "bar over the middle of the foot" would be appropriate. Since they're doing this example with an empty bar his center of mass isn't that close to the position of the bar.
@Innocence44
@Innocence44 4 ай бұрын
the bar no longer appears to be over his mid foot when hes deep in the hole when doing low bar
@loesha6034
@loesha6034 8 жыл бұрын
I'm currently working on a strength program involving front squat and low bar back squat, both trying to use the form taught by the book and your videos. I have absolutely no issue with the front squat. But while low bar back squatting I get a small dolor in my left Pectineus muscle area. Do I bend to much forward or might it be another issue with my form ?
@sananton2821
@sananton2821 11 ай бұрын
a small dolor lmao
@sharvariinamdar9993
@sharvariinamdar9993 7 жыл бұрын
great help
@sharkwolf7788
@sharkwolf7788 6 ай бұрын
Bending over a little more takes so much stress off the knee
@karimassiboo5795
@karimassiboo5795 8 жыл бұрын
i had a triple discus prolaps at the lumbar spine. is this a good way for me or is this a good way for a "normal&healthy" person without any kind of back injuries? greetz vom vienna
@zorkan111
@zorkan111 8 жыл бұрын
+Karim Assiboo Rule number one of dealing with serious injuries: don't ask for advice from random people on the Internet.
@brodiebutland1211
@brodiebutland1211 8 жыл бұрын
+Karim Assiboo I would strongly suggest going to the Starting Strength website and doing a forum search for back problems. We have a vast number of people who have successfully cured or alleviating their back problems through proper squatting and deadlifting. I myself have had less back pain since I moved to a low bar squat years ago. You will likely be able to gather hundreds of entries from people who previously suffered back injuries but have had great success with progressive weight training.I, of course, don't know your particular injury or prognosis, so I can't comment as to whether a low bar squat is proper for you. But I do know that many people with herniated discs, bulging discs, back fractures, disc prolapses, and a whole laundry list of other back conditions have successfully squatted and deadlifted, and felt better in the process.
@goku.fitness
@goku.fitness 8 жыл бұрын
+Karim Assiboo and don't ask your doctor. he has usually no clue about lifting weights
@karimassiboo5795
@karimassiboo5795 8 жыл бұрын
+Brodie Butland thnx for the fast answer
@karimassiboo5795
@karimassiboo5795 8 жыл бұрын
+Karm A thnx for this answer. it was a big help for me
@user-mj8wi6du7m
@user-mj8wi6du7m 3 жыл бұрын
if you have long femur your spine will be more horizontal , if you have short femur your spine will be more vertical. high or low bar doesn't matter.
@s9209122222
@s9209122222 3 жыл бұрын
How about the high bar position?
@stevend481
@stevend481 7 жыл бұрын
but isn't there great squaters that stay upright? seems to me like its more of a preference based on leverages
@andrewsong7760
@andrewsong7760 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Diahy agreed. Forcing someone with short femur and a long torso to purposefully Squat with a more horizontal back angle is pretty dumb. If they can maintain a vertical torso with no issues, it's going to be optimal. Rip talks about people being brainwashed, but I think it's him that is trying to brainwash others lol.
@zachsimpson2008
@zachsimpson2008 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Diahy Yes you're right. I got sucked into this only for it to make it EXTREMELY difficult for me to increase my squat. it literally just stayed the same, and that should not happen for a new lifter. Then I learned that it only works for some people. I low bar squat, but because of my build, I sit up a little more upright. What happened? IMMEDIATE improvement.
@zachsimpson2008
@zachsimpson2008 7 жыл бұрын
Steven Diahy Yes you're right. I got sucked into this only for it to make it EXTREMELY difficult for me to increase my squat. it literally just stayed the same, and that should not happen for a new lifter. Then I learned that it only works for some people. I low bar squat, but because of my build, I sit up a little more upright. What happened? IMMEDIATE improvement.
@chinarep1
@chinarep1 6 жыл бұрын
Hey look someone who hasn't read the book or apparently even watched the video. There's no magical back angle that everyone must stay at. The back angle is determined by your femur, torso, and tibia lengths so it's different for everyone. The important thing is to have your center of mass (this will be where the bar is when the bar is actually heavy) over your center of balance (the middle of your foot). People who low bar squat usually have a back angle that's the same as what a starting strength coach would have them use. The only real differences you see between raw PL's who low bar squat and the SS squat is that PL's tend to keep their gaze forward instead of down which isn't a problem if you learn to maintain the proper back angle (which they do) and that a lot of PL's use a different grip to what's recommended by SS (also not a huge issue if it's not causing pain).
@TheDisizit1
@TheDisizit1 6 жыл бұрын
Why do you use a person who does HIGH bar squats as an example if the topic of this video is the LOW bar squat? It's like saying "Hey Kirill Sarychev benches with his back parallel to the floor so you should do the same when you squat, I mean he lifts pretty heavy so he must be doing it correctly right?" With the low bar you have to bend over a little to keep it over mid foot (how much is different for everybody) otherwise you will push your knees forward (which takes the HIP DRAHVE out of the equasion) or just fall back. That's the point of this video.
@nicolasarmel2372
@nicolasarmel2372 5 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain an easier way to understand this, I have heard many explanations about this but can’t seem to understand this. PLEASE HELP
@_swagmeister
@_swagmeister 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh why his head stickin forward like that
@CarlosValenzuela-sx9xb
@CarlosValenzuela-sx9xb 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Starting Strength do you have any gyms in Spain Id like to see your technique of each exercise.
@monkeytrollhunter
@monkeytrollhunter 3 жыл бұрын
Concise and on point. Other videos were either too short, not showing the most important angle or just too elaborated with camera angles moving all over the place as if I'm seeing some sort of informercial.
@krisholt8390
@krisholt8390 4 жыл бұрын
Huge difference in knee movement. The correct way has very little forward travel on the knees, more like sitting down.
@johnston4417
@johnston4417 6 жыл бұрын
I think this is a little weird maybe because i high bar squat and this is low bar.
@mikedfelix
@mikedfelix 6 жыл бұрын
Where to get that karate kid miyagi Tshirt?
@Silentknight052
@Silentknight052 6 жыл бұрын
So the Chinese Olympians are wrong?
@dominikkoc2165
@dominikkoc2165 4 жыл бұрын
They've ascended past mortal level squats
@Matt-yi3kn
@Matt-yi3kn 2 жыл бұрын
3:34 Look at the bar path. It's too much forward... How can it be right?????
@calvincooley1074
@calvincooley1074 3 жыл бұрын
Head should be more neutral. Position shown compromises spinal alignment and breathing.
@eliv29
@eliv29 7 жыл бұрын
what if you do high bar not low bar is it still the same ?
@mattjoe182
@mattjoe182 7 жыл бұрын
eliv29 no you stay more upright in high bar. Check Omar isuf's tutorial for high bar
@chinarep1
@chinarep1 6 жыл бұрын
The concept is the same, yes. Your center of mass stays over your center of balance. Since the bar is higher up on your torso in a high bar squat, you don't need to lean over as much as in the low bar squat.
@entee123
@entee123 7 жыл бұрын
how is this different from a good morning style, that everyone warns against? I'd love to know the difference
@drb4074
@drb4074 7 жыл бұрын
Is he keeping his legs straight and his ass at standing level? No.
@franklogrim8510
@franklogrim8510 6 жыл бұрын
damn no wonder i can't increase the weight and have pain..
@bencoley356
@bencoley356 7 жыл бұрын
Miyagi tee shirt is awesome tee-shirt
@ambidex0med
@ambidex0med 8 жыл бұрын
Does this count for high bar also?
@JaneThompson356
@JaneThompson356 6 жыл бұрын
of course not
@nickenspoliticalramblings4836
@nickenspoliticalramblings4836 5 жыл бұрын
Saturdie Morning
@clintkennedy8387
@clintkennedy8387 4 жыл бұрын
He'll also discuss testosterin and his diabeetus on Saturdie.
@UntakenNick
@UntakenNick 6 жыл бұрын
I feel a snap in my hip when I squat and the only way I found to prevent it is by keeping the back as vertical as possible. It doesn't hurt but it's quite unpleasant because I don't know if it's a minor issue or if I'll ruin my hip by doing it on the long term, so I'll keep squatting the way that feels smoothes on my joints. Besides, why would I modify a leg exercise to target my back?
@SiMon-dx9iy
@SiMon-dx9iy 5 жыл бұрын
I think chase gets a beating off rip now and then !
@charliechuck8994
@charliechuck8994 7 жыл бұрын
I need those shoes
@daleg.9673
@daleg.9673 8 жыл бұрын
If you squat this way should you skip deadlifts (redundant) and do leg presses so the quads can get some work too?
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 8 жыл бұрын
+Dale G. I don't see how knee extension can happen without the quads being involved? Help us out.
@daleg.9673
@daleg.9673 8 жыл бұрын
The same way hip extension happens on a high bar squat.
@chuckiechuckster349
@chuckiechuckster349 8 жыл бұрын
+Dale G. Glutes work harder on a high bar squat since the hamstrings can't contribute, meaning less weight will be used. Read the book.
@daleg.9673
@daleg.9673 8 жыл бұрын
Slightly less weight over a slightly longer range of motion, shoulders and low back in a safer position, develops mobility. Studies show the squat (high or low bar) is a poor exercise for working the hamstrings. RDL or glute-ham raise would be better choice.
@chuckiechuckster349
@chuckiechuckster349 8 жыл бұрын
Ah.. good to know we were all wasting our time lengthening and contracting our posterior chain for no reason. Regarding the studies, putting the bar in the low bar position is not sufficient for hip extensor involvement. Please tell Layne Norton that he needs to train hip extension, since his squat won't. watch?v=zcf0lHF1lY8 Read the damn book.
@joshkw2328
@joshkw2328 2 жыл бұрын
Chase looks like a T1000 , change my mind
@GentLee84
@GentLee84 8 жыл бұрын
Just be careful not to turn it into a good morning 😉
@perman07
@perman07 8 жыл бұрын
+Lee UK If you start at a reasonable weight, focus on correct form, while increasing at the correct pace, this problem sorts it self.
@obits3
@obits3 8 жыл бұрын
The key seems to be keeping a constant back angle throughout the set (good mornings involve changing the back angle).
@msheehandub
@msheehandub 5 жыл бұрын
A squat video less than 5 min??
@choochoo7443
@choochoo7443 3 ай бұрын
uhh..... something's sticking out.
@altuber99_athlete
@altuber99_athlete 7 жыл бұрын
That looks like highbar. Also he's sticking his ass out. Also he has forward head/neck. Is all of this good..?
@Silentknight052
@Silentknight052 6 жыл бұрын
Alejandro Nava looks like a good morning
@randomboy123ify
@randomboy123ify 7 жыл бұрын
Wow
@mathewiullahkhan3058
@mathewiullahkhan3058 6 жыл бұрын
👌
@amielmatt
@amielmatt 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry Mark but the justification for bent over squat is poor. Basically you’re trying to mimic the dead lift with the squat. Why? Use the dead lift to train the back in the way you desire. Use the squat to train legs and hips. There is no good reason to make the movements biomechanically equivalent.
@CooperCarr
@CooperCarr 8 жыл бұрын
Man the rack is in perfect focus...just not Mark. Pull critical focus first.
@TheShapingSickness
@TheShapingSickness 8 жыл бұрын
I'm currently running Starting Strength, Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Doing the 3 lifts takes me around an hour which leaves me no time for accessory work. Is it ok to hit the gym on saturdays to do a bunch of accessory work?
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 8 жыл бұрын
+Isaac Campos If you're doing the program, you don't need any accessory work. If you're not doing the program, do the accessory work whenever you want.
@TheShapingSickness
@TheShapingSickness 8 жыл бұрын
Starting Strength thanks for the answer! Quick question I'd be really grateful if you could answer it: My Deadlift technique is a little bad on the eccentric, I just don't know how to put the bar back to the floor and reset. I'm thinking on going back 10% to 20% of the weight to just try and perfect my technique before I get my back snapped or something. Any suggestions?
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 8 жыл бұрын
+Isaac Campos Here you go. Watch this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/idSnq62E2sC3caM.html
@TheShapingSickness
@TheShapingSickness 8 жыл бұрын
Starting Strength thanks! You guys are the best, will definitely apply that next session!
@brotendo
@brotendo 8 жыл бұрын
+Starting Strength Damn, I needed that. I noticed that my back was flexing on the way down, and I'd have to reset all over again for every rep.
@keithbarbaro7590
@keithbarbaro7590 8 жыл бұрын
His head is drooping too low. And he lowers himself too fast. He should have some control of the eccentric phase of the rep.
@loosey5
@loosey5 8 жыл бұрын
+Keith Barbaro SS promotes neutral spinal position that's why his chin is down and his descent is fast because there's no weight on the bar.
@pri5748
@pri5748 Жыл бұрын
Haaland
@Siritos
@Siritos 5 жыл бұрын
After 11 years of Coaching various methodologies I am wary of any Coach who says, "THIS is the right way, and THIS is the wrong way." As opposed to, "THIS is the way we do it and here's why." I can respect his methodology and the manner in which he teaches it. He's created a cult following and has commercialised his approach. That's good business acumen. However, I cringe when he talks in such absolutes about a movement that can be done in so many ways. The irony of him criticising others for being brain washed. It's not brain washing to teach one standard methodology. It IS brainwashing to preach that you have the only solution to a movement and all others are wrong. The upright backsquat has huge utility and is an extremely effective performance position. Just ask any Olympic Weightlifter.
@inquisitor4635
@inquisitor4635 7 жыл бұрын
The young man has postural anomalies that he should address that may result in potential injury short or long term and will become more ingrained the stronger he gets and the more hypertonicity he creates in his musculature. He stands with his body weight shifted onto his left leg, his left foot-knee and hip are externally rotated, thus his right shoulder his elevated hence the higher trap. This will usually mean the left foot may have a fallen arch. The peroneals, Tensor fasciae latae, outer quads, glutes and deep hip rotators on the left side will be shorter, thicker and denser. Usually the lower back on the left side will have a tighter quadratus lumborum and paraspinals. The mid and upper trap will tend to be shorter and tighter on the right side. And the suboccipital muscles will tend to be shorter on the left side which would cause one to look for a C1-C2-C3 potential misalignment. I would look for imbalanced hamstring tightness with the right hamstring perhaps being shorter-but not always and also if the right psoas is also shorter than the left.
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 7 жыл бұрын
We failed to see this when he squatted 500 for 3 sets of five last week.
@blakeb.8734
@blakeb.8734 7 жыл бұрын
Starting Strength LMAO
@garrettmunoz4785
@garrettmunoz4785 7 жыл бұрын
The people who don't believe it or they don't believe it works for them obviously don't understand their body and are probably not doing it correctly. Remember that no body is the exact same and everyone's torso angle is going to be different. But the point is that the spine remains neutral throughout the entire movement while the bar stays over the middle of the foot. Educate yourselves before saying stupid shit.
@keysersoze5920
@keysersoze5920 4 жыл бұрын
This is how you low bar squat, NOT high bar squat. Two different lifts: hip dominant versus quad dominant. Check-out Idalberto Arranda & Anatoly Pisarenko for correct high bar squating.
@thecastle09
@thecastle09 6 жыл бұрын
its not a front squat
@gigabuyceps
@gigabuyceps 2 жыл бұрын
Nice bullshit 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈❤️
@0vermars520
@0vermars520 4 жыл бұрын
I was told to keep my back and legs vertical while squatting.
@NeuronActivation
@NeuronActivation 4 жыл бұрын
By who? Cause they don't know what they're talking about.
@nightfighter7452
@nightfighter7452 3 жыл бұрын
Keeping a vertical back while squatting with a barbell on your shoulders is kinda impossible
@L1th1um85
@L1th1um85 7 жыл бұрын
Well.... I don't think this turned out to be a good Video explaining the back Position in a low bar squat... in fact I think it failed... Given the individual anatomics, a squat, performed with the lowbar Position, opening knees and hips at the same time with vertical bar path over the midfoot! will always be correct (otherwise he would lose Balance or the heels would rise from the Floor). depending on Femur length and or in comparison to the upper Body, this automatically results in a more horizontal or more vertical back angle with the bar over the midfoot, case closed. In this Video during the "wrong" squat at 1:41 everything went fine, knees and hips opening simultaneously, vertical bar path over midfoot, only Thing wrong was leading back up with the chest insteadt of hips!! but thas was not the reason of the Video. i want to state again that he made a fluid practised movement during the "wrong" squat. When we look at the "right" squat at 2:41, the movement seems lessed internalized by the Trainee. The descent Looks like a uncertain two step procedure starting with the hips back. much more important, the bar is not traveling vertical! at the hole its in front of the toes ! This Position is not sustainable, I am sure with more weight on the bar it would look much more like the first "false" squat.... only Thing different was hip drive in the second example. Otherwise I really enjoy your Videos, expecially the series with "the art of manliness"
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 7 жыл бұрын
There's no weight on the bar. You're not considering the COM of the lifter barbell system. Think about this a little more.
@antoniettamancinelli6581
@antoniettamancinelli6581 5 жыл бұрын
I think the main purpose of this video was to illustrate the concept of correct back angle during the low bar squats, regardless of the quality of execution that would come next (which would be optimal anyway).
@AexoeroV
@AexoeroV 5 жыл бұрын
So Tom Platz squatted wrong?
@Siritos
@Siritos 5 жыл бұрын
Him and every Oly lifter who's ever lived, apparently..
@AMan-iv2rb
@AMan-iv2rb 3 жыл бұрын
Steroids
@AexoeroV
@AexoeroV 3 жыл бұрын
@@AMan-iv2rb what about them?
@elizabethgomez3348
@elizabethgomez3348 8 жыл бұрын
in one of your videos YOU said to throw your chest up and on this on you say itsthe wrong form
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 8 жыл бұрын
+Elizabeth Gomez Link?
@dalem04
@dalem04 8 жыл бұрын
+Elizabeth Gomez On the old Starting Strength DVD there is an older lifter right at the end of the squat segment whom Rip tells to "drive up with the chest" or some other very similar cue. He does this because this particular fellow has no problem with bending over and does it quite well. The majority of people do not want to bend over with a heavy weight on their backs so Rip does not in general cue this. Cues can vary from lifter to lifter depending on what they need to be told at that particular moment in time to execute the lift correctly.
@fitman84
@fitman84 8 жыл бұрын
+Elizabeth Gomez Have not seen that information you say but I'm quite sure that keep chest up is no the same as the verticallity that Mark is saying it's wrong. The chest have to be always up, this is another way to say that the upper back must be ripped as a wall, is the same because one thing involves the other. Go to a rack and feel it.
@ClearSmoke100
@ClearSmoke100 8 жыл бұрын
I know what video she's talking about. There's an old guy I think in a red crossfit shirt you told him to lift his chest. But you only said that because the man was squatting in a good morning position. you said it to balance him out and it worked. you also said that normally you don't want somebody to think squat lifting chest up but in his case the way he squat it brought the weight back into position. so that was an exception to the rule Elizabeth. when he says squat horizontal position he didn't literally mean to the floor like that old man.
@Necrosis88
@Necrosis88 7 жыл бұрын
in the old DVD Mark uses a cue chest up to show the trainee how to trap the bar on his back, not to hold his chest up during the squat.
@wermy76
@wermy76 6 жыл бұрын
no wonder people fuck up there backs... thats just horrible form... back squats are bad news... trap bar deadlifts or deadlifts from 4-6 inches below knee, leg press and kettlebell front squats are all you need for SAFE lower body development!
@Alex-xi3bw
@Alex-xi3bw 2 жыл бұрын
the accent makes me trust him more
@willhelmberkly3025
@willhelmberkly3025 7 жыл бұрын
His arrogance would be off putting if he did not have the where-with- all to back it up.
@Graham-Christian
@Graham-Christian 6 жыл бұрын
Biomechanics determine the angle. So be perceptive of what works for your body type - this advice is not going to work for everyone.
@billybrothers2492
@billybrothers2492 5 жыл бұрын
Gray House Productions lol
@msitler1104
@msitler1104 7 жыл бұрын
not trying to sound like a hater but is he trying to squat to do what...build muscle or just strength, i can tell u everything i ever did up till last year was a bent over more horizontal squat and it never gave me the results i intended to receive. y would i spend time to train my lower back when im trying to get bigger legs and force them to work alone and harder lolz. im just a bodybuilder and its just my take on all this...the horizontal position just limits on your rom i note 3:36 in this video you can even see it happening. anyways have a great forever everyone, and my final thought and maybe only ever advice is question everything because there are a lot of deceivers out there and many scientists have eventually been proven wrong over time with many things
@rubeng9092
@rubeng9092 2 жыл бұрын
You probably are doing highbar squats which demand a more vertical angle. The low bar squat has a different path for the barbell and needs a more horizontal angle.
@calebengland149
@calebengland149 Жыл бұрын
How do you keep it over the middle of your foot.
@palmlifeuk3553
@palmlifeuk3553 Жыл бұрын
By placing the bar lower on your back
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