Aatrox - Before the Rework
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2 жыл бұрынWhat was Aatrox like BEFORE his rework?
Before the Rework Playlist - • Before the Rework
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This is How I Play Aatrox (Used in Outro) - • This is How I Play Aatrox
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@Peldms63 2 жыл бұрын
"Look how they massacred by boy." I miss him so much, was one of the few characters I got well acquainted with and then he was removed from the game.
@janxster1113 2 жыл бұрын
New is better.
@eulala1952 2 жыл бұрын
@@janxster1113 old one was much more stronger
@janxster1113 2 жыл бұрын
@@eulala1952 thats the dumbest thing ir've heard in awhile lol.
@w.d.gaster3972 2 жыл бұрын
@@janxster1113 oooooo changes nooo i want my fossil and boring character design back i dont like changes waaaah
@janxster1113 2 жыл бұрын
@@w.d.gaster3972 new aatrox is better in litterly every way of design to qoutes to champ to everything.
@mastermimin 2 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to see the Sion rework deconstructed. It's such a drastically different champion and almost nobody knows the old him.
@toffeeFairy 2 жыл бұрын
It's also one of the oldest ones, i started in late season 3 and only saw him like 2 before he was reworked.
@N12015 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, almost like he now is a real champion with a cohesive gameplay instead of 2 halves.
@pavlestojanovic9631 2 жыл бұрын
true!
@mastermimin 2 жыл бұрын
@@N12015 I really love the new Sion but the old Sion is a pretty interesting topic.
@khanlikestoogivebigsucc7375 2 жыл бұрын
I started playing long after he was reworked, but I found that he healed his allies based on damage dealt in R to be really interesting, and am pretty bummed no current champ has anything like it. (The closest I can think of would be an AS incorporating Taric build, but it's not really similar at all)
@phatang5443 2 жыл бұрын
Miss the old Aatrox , the feeling when u rush in 1 vs 2,3 enemies press R and start slashing and healing is incredible.
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back
@Foyter27 Жыл бұрын
Old Master Yi with AP scaling was even something different. Same feeling but way more broken
@Nopejams 9 ай бұрын
100% prefer old aatrox, i loved his old abilities
@Giggles4692 8 ай бұрын
Or just play Olaf for the same playstyle.
@martinkaradjov6153 8 ай бұрын
Olaf is booring and lame@@Giggles4692
@colestevens7968 2 жыл бұрын
Old Aatrox was one of my favorite champs. I wish he was still this way.
@kirixlovesplays Жыл бұрын
Same :(
@stevekef7229 Жыл бұрын
me too my heart aches just thinking about it like a wound that will never be healed 😭
@aytocarambaaysosiamba9822 Жыл бұрын
Old fiora too haysss
@Bohan.HaoShuai Жыл бұрын
Same😢
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back
@DustD.Reaper 2 жыл бұрын
Old Aatrox will always have a special place in my heart since I remember him being one of the first champions I played when I freshly started with league about 6 or 7 years ago, and even though it were just botgames at that times, I really had a blast with him. But since I ended up as a support main, I never really ended up picking Aatrox besides the times I would maybe got him in ARAM while he was in the free rotation so hearing that Aatrox was getting a rework back then gave me mixed feelings because one champion that I never played before and got reworked, Warwick, became one of my favourites to play in league so I thought that it probably will be fine, but there was always this dread I felt that the Aatrox I first got into league with may be gone then...which by now turned into reality. I dont dislike the new Aatrox, there were some fun moments I had with him aswell...I just really miss the old Aatrox, and he is now synonymus with an older time of league. One where every new champion wasnt an overtuned amalgamation of exsisting champions, but instead had new ideas and interesting gimmicks, where we had event thematic game modes and holiday maps like the Halloween and Christmas ones...and where I think Riot cared more about the community and less about just making money.
@nayrim1674 2 жыл бұрын
This comment Hit different man
@374mikester 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the effort and care put into the thematic game modes. Actually I miss thematic game modes all together.
@edjonas8801 2 жыл бұрын
Rip my tankplank golditems, my singed who does damage with q, my Yorick spam E, my full ad ghost cleanse Sion, my Ap shaco in 3v3 or Dominion, my death fire grasp, my athene, my nautilus and chogath jungle... Rip my Jungle Alistar lvl2 gank, and my shen jungle level 2 flash taunt gank mid, rip my Volibear max E (tho New one is good), rip my urgot aimbot, rip Ryze number 1 and number 2, my lethality Darius, my adc Graves, rip spam q pant, rip blue red yellow purple build ezreal, old fiora ult...
@FarmerSakki 2 жыл бұрын
Old Aatrox was also my first champion played too. It was a one for all game.
@nathanielrobles3284 2 жыл бұрын
They could have just made the new as Aatrox brother since it was a whole new kit. The old Aatrox was doing well after the buffs before he got reworked.
@mimico4340 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Aatrox Gone but not forgotten ★ June 13th, 2013 † June 27th, 2018
@samijouili 2 жыл бұрын
Loved Atrox because of the dark flight skills , back then it seemed like the coolest thing
@LightTrack- Жыл бұрын
It still is. The sound effects and how hardcore it felt was so cool.
@TheHappyReaper 2 жыл бұрын
I used to main Aatrox back in the day, and I was really hyped for his rework when it was first announced, because it seemed to make Aatrox more like how I played him, which was a weird ad/AP hybrid using gunblade and nashors to shift Aatrox away from pure autos and more towards trading and burst. However, I could never really get behind the new Aatrox. The problem for me was never the revive, or the lack of on-hit support, it was how abhorrently slow the new Aatrox’s Q felt. Maybe I’m crazy, well probably actually I’ve been playing league for a while now, but whenever I played the new Aatrox it just felt like it took so long for my ability to go off, especially in the late game. I never could get used to it, and ended up dropping the champion.
@mond256 2 жыл бұрын
I used to do the same thing back in season 5, picked up the champion again in season 9 and I just couldn't figure him out. Just trying to land abilities like I was used to felt slow and clunky especially due to the different shapes of his q. Trying to spam autos like conventional oldtrox was completely nonviable due to the removal of his healing. He's a fine champ and I know people who play him and like him now but he's just not the champion I used to play in any way
@WilliamPTuffs 2 жыл бұрын
Aatrox's q ability animation time is definitely noticeable in late game when your going against champions with quick animations, ESPECIALLY assassins. Wish there was some way to quicken it, like yasuo's q with attack speed :I
@raphaelnej8387 2 жыл бұрын
aatrox was the first champ i played (it was in every beginner players free rotation) and i really enjoyed it. I bought it and reached m5 on it. It was really a good champion. A simple revive. A simple but technical autoattack boost. A straight forward Q. A funny skillshot. An ult that turns you into a short range adc. The champ was great. Then it got a mini rework. The furry that used to be meaningless turned into a charging passive that gave aatrox weak timings and strong timings. Like irelia passive but much better balanced (it had counterplays). It gave its Q and skillshot a new meaning, since they now was also useful to activate passive. Aatrox had everything. Even his lore, which no one cares about, could be understood just by looking at it. Aatrox had everything. Riot removed it and put another champ under the same name. Full reworks only went on outdated harmful champs. Poppy Sion Evelynn Yorick Urgot Mord Warwick Nunu. They all had toxic gameplay and gained a real meaning. Even kayle kept her entire gameplay intact. Aatrox was not toxic nor outdated. He got removed. The community may have saved all chat. But it did let aatrox die.
@antoniocuorleggero9253 2 жыл бұрын
it's hard to learn but it's extremely strong if u master him
@evgeniblanchard675 2 жыл бұрын
He rock hard rn tho.
@phgumerr646 2 жыл бұрын
I've had an idea for a while, and that's if you have mastery 7 on a champ, then they get reworked, the m7 looks different, maybe it looks like that Champs color scheme. Idk I just think there should be something for the pre rework playerbase for that champ
@Tarutwig 2 жыл бұрын
Would be galio urgot and pantheon for me. Would be nice even tho i dont play their new Version much
@spe02001 2 жыл бұрын
Same for poppy and galio is worse.
@raphaelnej8387 2 жыл бұрын
I reached mastery 7 on xin by afk farming into 1v1 backdore tower at 30 min. They kept the champ but not the spikes. Never played it again.
@heromedley 2 жыл бұрын
sounds stupid as hell
@GolompReformed 2 жыл бұрын
I have like 170k 7 lvl on talon and i tauched him twice after rework in season 7
@KnucklesEki 2 жыл бұрын
Your title is wrong, it should be 'Aatrox - Before the Removal'
@endoyuki8255 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing him during s5 and his attack speed with lifesteal is soo good. I really miss the old him
@akiraabesamis4226 Жыл бұрын
With tht zephyr men
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back!
@koi3889 Жыл бұрын
Aarrox used to be my main, I still miss him. I played once after the rework and that was it.
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back!
@dino0075 2 жыл бұрын
I love new Aatrox, I have him at m7, he's one of my favorite champions to play in the entire game But I also dearly miss old Aatrox, he was always a fun flex pick I could lock in when I just wanted to have fun. I thoroughly enjoy playing the new version, but I also loved playing the old version. All this being said though, with Renata and Akshans releases, I FIRMLY believe they should give Aatrox's revive back.
@guillermolopez2673 2 жыл бұрын
Right? It seems unfair for two characters to have a revive mechanic in one basic ability but for Aatrox to not have it whatsoever, not even in his ult, when it had been a core mechanic since his first release
@yankokassinof6710 2 жыл бұрын
@@guillermolopez2673 aatrox revive is janky and 80% of the time just got u killed again with little counterplay, in a fight where he has his revive, he dies and revives, ok, and dies again because conq fell off, enemies cd is up, and because u died someone else in ur team also died, rendering u useless most of the time. NOW with extra healing, you wont die as easily as before, as a consequence your ally also wont, and so the champion just is better, if they put revive the heal on ulti WILL decrease and that is not a good trade off
@guillermolopez2673 2 жыл бұрын
@@yankokassinof6710 following that logic Zilean's ult, Renata's revive or the now removed Chemtech soul wouldn't be useful either, because you can die, revive, and still die again wasting it. The point is not whether the revive mechanic is useful or not in some cases, but that it's been a fundamental part of Aatrox's kit since his release and they took it away from him just because
@walkelftexasranger 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck Revive. It was way too broken since you could tower dive so stupidly easy. I want my damage to minions and HP regen back ,so I can actually be strong at early game (Where Aatrox is suppose to be lane bully).
@kaiogiovanni 2 жыл бұрын
You can argue that, but you also have to notice that old Aatrox's revive was and still would be the only reliable revive skill in the game, since: Anivia needs to survive with less armour to revive Zac needs to survive with severely less health to revive Renata's target need to kill/assist to revive Akshan's teammate revives, but not into battle, and Akshan also needs to kill/assist
@Nietmeg 2 жыл бұрын
This was the one I was really looking forward to! Thank you cryo!
@MisterBobGoodDeal 2 жыл бұрын
Sion and Yorick are my picks for the next episodes! Thank for the great work :)
@felixfresh4883 Жыл бұрын
Damn that hits right in the feels. I got my first ever pentakill with the old aatrox i'll never forget the rush of adrenaline it gave me...
@thewildhealer541 10 ай бұрын
Me too man, he was pretty overtuned on release xD
@Flavourius 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like the idea of you covering Maokai next, before Gnar became my main champ it was mostly Maokai but due to item changes and his ult rework I'm sad that he'll never be the strong tree you could rely on anymore in team fights.
@guillermolopez2673 2 жыл бұрын
I knew this video was coming and when I saw the 20 minute long duration I knew this was gonna be good. Especially knowing Aatrox was your fav champion before Thresh I personally like the new look better than the old one, and I never got to play the old Aatrox, but I've seen so many people talking about this topic I'm thinking more and more heavily every time that Riot should release a version with old League champs, before any rework had been done, just for fun
@RamenPoweredShitFactory 2 жыл бұрын
I new darkin that plays exactly like the old aatrox would be funny.
@theycallmeklutchkid 2 жыл бұрын
yeah we need an old kit mode, i wanna play old fiora and aatrox and xerath and galio
@unholymackerel8072 2 жыл бұрын
I really miss the old Aatrox. I even made a montage of him way back in the day, one of my fondest memories is a match I played him in the jungle when I went 20/1 and still lost a match. I got him to m7 before the vgu and I really really miss it, I wasn't good at him by any means but god damn, I absolutely loved the way the champ played. It was so unique with the ultimate and the toggle W, sigh. I really wish we could have him back, even if he's never ever meta. Lol.
@aatroxporo6997 Жыл бұрын
Love your pfp :D
@unholymackerel8072 Жыл бұрын
@@aatroxporo6997 loool cool coincidence! I've had it on since before the rework! I even created a montage but then shit happened and I couldn't! lol!
@aatroxporo6997 Жыл бұрын
@@unholymackerel8072 oof
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back!
@imperatorcaesar754 2 жыл бұрын
I miss old aatrox so much. Used to build devourer on him, and it was one of the few times I genuinely had fun in league.
@smugron1101 2 жыл бұрын
I like new Aatrox but Old Aatrox will never be replaced for me.
@kaikefernandes6413 4 ай бұрын
nobody played old Aatrox, then Riot reworked him, and then suddenly everybody was an old Aatrox main
@BovineIntervention 4 ай бұрын
I played him a lot and have a lot of nostalgia for his old kit and I can still admit new aatrox is just better.
@jaimiranda8563 3 ай бұрын
That's such a disingenous thing to say lmao. I think the new Aatrox is cool but he will never be old Aatrox, and this is coming from someone who played the pre-rework version with over 200k mastery.
@kingusernamelxixthemagnifi3488 5 ай бұрын
He was also one of my favourites. The change really put the last nail in the coffin of me playing LoL routinely. I mean, that's kind of a good thing.
@diegovs1508 2 жыл бұрын
I even started playing lol when aatrox came out. I just remember his image in the log in screen and being so excited about trying to get him. Then when i finally got to play him, it was even better than I had imagined, but now it's just... different. I miss getting a pentakill with a q + r or being unkillable while striking so fast I was constantly healing. Chills remembering that
@KingOfAllGhouls 2 жыл бұрын
As much as everyone wants the revive back (as do I) its important to remember the power budget. Theyd have to roll back some of the healthier changes to give him the novelty of the revive. There would have to be a major enough change to league to warrent increasing the budget to give him the res
@toyue4201 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the old Aatrox so much. From the visuals, to the lore, to his gameplay and his identity. Sure it wasn't perfect and perhaps seemed generic, but it was very unique and had it's identity. I really felt powerful and as the video said, one was able to dance with death. Now Aatrox is a constantly screaming tragic character who really wants everyone and everything to die. He has become a AD caster with a playstyle that does really remind me of Riven. Ofc it's still different in many aspects, but nevertheless the new aatrox feels closer to Riven than to his former self.
@komodokisaragi9398 Жыл бұрын
His voice over was so dope bro now he's f*ckin swarzanegger 😂
@Bohan.HaoShuai Жыл бұрын
Same
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back
@UniquelyAwful Жыл бұрын
New trox is objectively better from a thematic/lore perspective. Riot didn’t really know what DARKIN were before LoR tbh, it really fleshed them out into something good.
@goldenarmour7975 10 ай бұрын
@@UniquelyAwful yes, but the "Now, we turn the tide" is much better than the current aatrox on some aspects. The new aatrox is kind of a theatrical character constantly screaming. It's not for everyone. I like him a lot in LoR as he's more toned down and his interactions with the other darkins are really cool and he seems to actually like his crew.
@looksee2575 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video! Good job
@Taylorbaby831 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving this series, new subscriber here. Please do Karma, I really liked old karma.
@ilkerturkmen941 2 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to be able to play both of them, I really liked the old Aatrox (2nd itteration), hated the rework but after the change made to the rework (4th itteration) I played him a bit and absolutetly love him. Sad that the old one is gone still though.
@mrcptsrdrprof86 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like during those times, Aatrox’s kit was a little overwhelming, especially considering the pool a champs to choose from who had relatively simple kit. However, if Aatrox were to be released today, his old kit would fit pretty well among the current champs.
@71light0 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this
@chiqers 2 жыл бұрын
sick but here to wish you well! have a good one cryo
@DavidVloch 2 жыл бұрын
Old Aatrox still remains my record of kills in 1 game - 36. I will never forget that.
@ajgbeat912 2 жыл бұрын
Ah the inevitable video. Never forget what riot took from us
@Totoroi_ 2 жыл бұрын
Love these types of videos
@patromal94 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video as always cryo ! continue the good stuff :)
@NaldoNidoking 2 жыл бұрын
I really miss old Aatrox. I remember watching an Anklespankin video where he played him AP Mid and I fell in love with that pick. It even got me into playing him the regular way as well. New Aatrox feels nothing like him, and I definitely agree that he should've been released as his own champion and left old Aatrox alone.
@micha6987 2 жыл бұрын
A man of culture
@davidwilli5542 2 жыл бұрын
the thing that suprises me the most about conversations about the aatrox rework is that out of nowhere everyone used to play old aatrox when in reality he was rockbottom pickrate
@Linesweeper 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah people also forget that his jump was the most awful feeling abillity in the game to use due to how often it got interrupted or how hard you lost lane if you got ganked twice. These guys who all had m7 on "old Aatrox" sure put on their rose tinted glasses.
@davidwilli5542 2 жыл бұрын
@@Linesweeper yes my guess would be they got most mastery on the last couple months when riot intentionally left him op
@hieungocphung9116 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, back then nobody played him but now everyone is an aatrox main
@sirhellsing 4 ай бұрын
@@Linesweeper honestly, as a m7 old aatrox, I probably did put on rose tinted glasses. Although he is my highest mastery point champion so I vibed with him from the start. I'm just shit at new aatrox though, I get bursted with any gap closer and I'm bad at landing my 3 sweetspots (plus slow q animations) I picked up Warwick jg and he feels a lot like old aatrox in terms of teamfight
@jaimiranda8563 3 ай бұрын
@@Linesweeper Knowing when to use your Q as old Aatrox was a skillcheck because of how easy to interrupt it was. Landing the Q knockup was capable of changing the flow of a team fight.
@8-bitjelly77 2 жыл бұрын
Kayn/Rhaast became my main post Aatrox rework, helped fill the Darkin shaped hole in my heart
@watchyourback8877 2 жыл бұрын
I really loved old Aatrox, his design was so cool and the Darkin Theme is something I love, when he got reworked, I had mixed feelings, he felt like a riven copy, he didn't feel like the old Aatrox, and I prefer his old design and voice, but a few years later, after watching Happy Chime Noises video about Aatrox, I decided to play him a lot and I love him now, I still miss his Revive on his Ult, and also, the Dark Souls Boss Aatrox video contributed my love for the guy.
@lull5450 2 жыл бұрын
They could've Keep his old w with his passive if hes below a certain amount of hp it will heal in scaling of his ad, while if its above 70% it'll deal a percentage amount base on enemy max hp. I think that will bring him a little closer with his old kit
@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795 2 жыл бұрын
Kill him in-lore again so Rito can rework him again
@giacomodaureliodarpino7594 2 жыл бұрын
He had the mutilate passive because there was an issue at the time with enchanters being too strong. They gave a similar thing to Irelia as well, before removing that as well.
@bsr1998 2 жыл бұрын
These are great! I'd love to see some info on Yorick!
@liamwilson5670 9 ай бұрын
Miss him sm, his old w was so much fun
@Morfe02 Жыл бұрын
They remove the revive so Akshan could revive the team 2 times
@samquinn2129 2 жыл бұрын
As an old Aatrox main(and my first main), the new Aatrox is a new champion. I remember the last night before the rework; pentas, and two solo Barons. Bloodrazer, Rageblade,Bork was so nuts. Rip Old aatrox
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back!
@jesustirado7817 2 жыл бұрын
Old Aatrox was my favorite champ as well, first main, first skin etc
@Kiskadee652 4 ай бұрын
Anyone knows the song name of the music that plays when he explains the oldtroxx abilities?
@Broly91571 Жыл бұрын
I actually miss old aatrox. Swapping his sword from heal to burst was what defined his kit. I loved the old one. the new one is just ok.
@donjones4022 Жыл бұрын
Bro absolutely nobody played old aatrox he was the Asol of top lane the only reason people played him right before rework was because he was busted lmfao.
@Broly91571 Жыл бұрын
@@donjones4022 I was one of the few that played him alot from release until rework...now he's basically a shitty version of riven. Q 3 attacks, w a stun after a delay (rivens is instant) E a dash, Riven has a shield and R power increase and riven has an execute which aatrox just extends duration.
@BringAatroxBack Жыл бұрын
We need to bring him back!
@abra2133 Жыл бұрын
@@Broly91571same people saying aatrox now is "shitty riven" are the same saying k'sante is just "tanksuo"
@uwutism 2 жыл бұрын
I hit mastery level 7 before rework with aatrox. I still like him after the rework but the removal of his revive is kind of upsetting. Instead of trying to balance it they removed what i feel was a core identity of aatrox. But its still fun mega healing and those crit q hits just feel so good.
@dArKoMeGa89 Жыл бұрын
Aatrox has been my first main, I begun to play lol the same say he has been released. I resonate quite a lot with your thoughts, I will miss my favourite champ forever
@Ben-ex1kv 2 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting to me since I started playing not long after his vgu, never got to see the old aatrox in action. I think it'd be cool if riot did some kind of time warp event where we could play old versions of some reworked champs, doubt that'll ever happen, but it'd be neat
@strongsuccessfulweeb1400 2 жыл бұрын
I like the dark eligance and voicelines and skills that old Aatrox had like they integrated his champ design to his skills. He has wings so they have him a skill that actually uses his wings that sold me to buy him and use him
@akiraabesamis4226 Жыл бұрын
Pain is temporary Victory is forever 😢😢
@walkelftexasranger 2 жыл бұрын
I really like new Aatrox a lot. Only things that makes me really salty is patch 9.9 ,because Riot nerfed Aatrox really hard by lowering his HP regen (Now he regens same as Marksman do) and patch 9.18 when they lowered his damage to minions (Thanks to that Aatrox have really hard time clearing Super Minions).
@sentoo7606 2 жыл бұрын
But it was a necessity, he was waaaay to broken. I love the new Aatrox as well and play him very often. Clearing super minions is not that easy, but they buffed his waveclear a couple of patches ago. So i think he is in a fine state.
@Igorex2930 2 жыл бұрын
New Aatrox can't clear siege minions for shit, that is one of my biggest complaints.
@mariodimitriadis 2 жыл бұрын
Ι am loving this new video series
@krystianjonamatsumura8381 2 жыл бұрын
This champ was A MONSTER back then... When I started Aatrox was a also a new champ back in season 3... So, as a player I bought him really early and was my favorite Champ... But, then through the seasons changed him... Sad that I can no longer play him as I used to... 😭
@Mike-iz6li 2 жыл бұрын
And now my lovely fiora :( there will be a day i will play her again!
@eduardokerber2931 2 жыл бұрын
Pls don't, French y is no more
@Mike-iz6li 2 жыл бұрын
@@eduardokerber2931 old fiora was my main, untill riot toke that away from me. Some has old GP, others old taric or galio. For me was that fiora. As you maybe noticed my icon x)
@N12015 2 жыл бұрын
Play Yi. It's basically the same champion as old Fiora with all the bad design things as well, specially now that he gained on-hit effects in his Q. Sadly Fiora lacked something to justify her usage over other skirmishers.
@Mike-iz6li 2 жыл бұрын
@@N12015 fiora double q dashes att speed +moventspeed on e and much stronger ult. Also i love her as a champion, walking voice and not to forget She was playable as top and jungle. Now she is she is ugly, chicken walk animation and exclusief top only. Im so gladly i can still play the old model, but not her abilitys yet.
@creegone 2 жыл бұрын
I loved older aatrox, firts version of him. But now he is just like riven
@Doublejho 2 жыл бұрын
"just like riven" is the dumbest take i've ever heard ngl
@katiequeen7225 2 жыл бұрын
@@Doublejho have you ever read both of their kits? they are incredibly similar p: bonus damage on autos q: 3 casts with 1/3 knockups 3rd cast basically identical e: short dash r: fat ad steroid this is basically half of their kits being identical
@ntray3729 2 жыл бұрын
@@katiequeen7225 Still a bad take. They are completely different regarding their playstyle. Besides of that some of their abilities may have similar mecanics, like the three casts on Q, but thats about it.
@creegone 2 жыл бұрын
@@katiequeen7225 more than a half, riven and aatrox have 3 abilities that are similiar
@creegone 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntray3729 have you ever played riven and aatrox? Or even looked at their skills?
@panzertempo4584 2 жыл бұрын
cant wait for the master yi episode, old AP yi was so hated lol. i loved it!
@hiephuu4871 Жыл бұрын
"it felt like an insult rather than a rework" that sentence pretty much sums up my feelings, thank you.
@SuperGabrielcrazy 2 жыл бұрын
old aatrox lore and personality was my top 1 in league by far, he was SO AWESOME
@bergkatze3186 4 ай бұрын
Lore? NC joke
@acat5338 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see one of these for the old Sejuani. The rework made me quit Sej. There was a lot more skill expression trying to optimize her permafrost than the current sej which is just “get 4 stacks and press E” I understand why the old sej ult had to be changed, but I hate the current basic ability changes. I also used to play sej in 4 of the 5 roles, with adc being the exception, in both tank and mage. So I played her a LOT.
@drillz8945 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone finally speaks up how good old aatrox was and how betrayed we felt wheb the new rework came out and how it was more of a new champ and a riven copy
@apreslavague1557 5 ай бұрын
Aatrox was my very first champion ever when arriving in LoL... I'm so sad they reworked him :(
@ImCroozy 2 жыл бұрын
Aatrox's revive was such a massive part of his lore and kit I WANT IT BACK SO BADLY
@yankokassinof6710 2 жыл бұрын
bad game design? i pass
@gazelle_diamond9768 2 жыл бұрын
@@yankokassinof6710 Ah yes, because Akshan's revive or Renata's revive are such good game design, right? Aatrox has never been part of the "200 years of game design" group.
@Krsthsus 2 жыл бұрын
Two champs can have it as basic abilities yet aatrox cant have it
@quatron9561 2 жыл бұрын
Aatrox was the first champ I bought with RP, when he first released I was like "I really need to play this champion" and I did not have enough IP(Influence Points which is the current Blue essence) back then. He was so much fun to play even tho I was bad at the game, I don't remember having fun like that in this game in a long time. Lastly, he had very unique Login Music which made me want to buy him at the spot.
@valcurion570 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the 2nd revive ultimate. I played him with gardian Angel and had a lot of fun.
@codino97 Жыл бұрын
never forgot old aatrox he was in the login screen when i started to play league july 2013
@BIAKaboose 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Aatrox. I was so hyped when he came out, because at first glance I saw him as a split between a caster carry and a melee carry, and given my astounding ability to auto attack minions in the middle of fights for no discernable reason, but land most skill shots somewhat reliably I thought I had found the Master Yi that actually functioned in my hands... I was so horribly wrong, and I still loved him. The absolute dopamine tsunami that came from surviving at sub 100 HP dozens of times in a single fight was unmatched, even if I could only make it happen once out of every twenty games. The idea of this otherwordly being swooping down from on high in the midst of a losing battle and resonating with the losing side so strongly that they could turn any disadvantage into a blowout victory was so rad to my high-school edgelord brain. This eerily beautiful, gore splattered, stretched out THING dancing among the corpses was truly something special in League at the time, it was something that I think was transitioned well into being Jhin later down the line. Then New Aatrox ran in like a linebacker, broke him in half, took everyone's lunch money, then beat the shit out of them anyway. Turns out, steroids was one hell of a drug, and Aatrox took so much that he traded out his living whip blade for little more than a hulking mass of iron. Don't get me wrong, he knew how to swing it, but it wasn't the same. Aatrox is a case study in character assassination, and while the new one is good, he's still an imposter standing on the grave of the original.
@theycallmeklutchkid 2 жыл бұрын
beautifully worded
@RegalRexus Жыл бұрын
He was a top 3 favorite champion of mine pre-rework. They strayed away from his original kit so much that it killed his identity. His old kit was so much fun to play and the management of when to use what version of W was a unique form of skill expression. I even prefer his old appearance. Much more menacing compared to the cartoony looking visual he has now.
@RedRamDRA 2 жыл бұрын
I had forgotten what old Aatrox even was... I kinda miss it now that I remembered
@MrPandaSinan 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE YOU 💖💖💖
@RB-xc9wg 2 жыл бұрын
Old Aatrox was my first main (it being the first champ in the list made that easy) when i started season 5/6. I when he got reworked I more or less stopped playing him. IMO Trundle is probably the closest champ now in terms of playstyle (AA based drain tank/carry). I now play less and less of league as I really enjoyed many of the older designes of toplaners/bruisers that now either not exist anymore or can't compete with newer designes.
@Kilesfactor 2 жыл бұрын
I joined season 11 and I still want old Aatrox. There’s even a meme about how certain champions have more sustain than Aatrox right now. It’s so sad how he died of ligma, and watching how riot effectively buffed the fuckle out of him only to delete him from the game. The second iteration would have been my favorite too, but here we are. Big shame.
@Joseph-ke8iu 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I joined in season 10. Aatrox was one of my first mains and I loved him but i feel like I would’ve liked playing old aatrox just as much.
@danstefan9411 2 жыл бұрын
Do shen before rework video . I rly loved shen the way it was before . If u already have a video on shen imma look it up and watch it
@bigbadbur7832 2 жыл бұрын
My beloved old Aatrox. I miss him.
@ethanjamesboling8154 Жыл бұрын
old Aatrox's model looked so much cooler. The wings were so badass with the veins and his overall stance and demeanor was cooler.
@user-zc9mf3ly5r Жыл бұрын
You mean having scoliosis and torn "wings" that he didn't use at all?? Not trying to be mean but the new Aatrox has better lore, quotes, visuals and gameplay. He can finally be S+ tier and keep up with the rest of the champions, requires a lot of skill and is satisfying af when you ult and hit every Q and W and then get a reset. He also heals more and is more reliable in team fights.
@sirhellsing 4 ай бұрын
@@user-zc9mf3ly5r TBH I just really liked being malphite but actually having dmg earlygame (and malphite in game model looks shit) Q in and stay alive as long as possible. Now I do this but with Warwick
@Nightmare-fe9hr 2 жыл бұрын
new aatrox is a cool champion. he aint aatrox tho. granted, his play feels a lot more intuitive for new players (big sword = attack slow), but old aatrox was a completely different man.
@reptileescape3619 2 жыл бұрын
I remember destroying zeds mid with Aatrox mid. Just stood there and auto him.
@Nightmare-fe9hr 2 жыл бұрын
@@shemsuhor8763 he's definitely similar in terms of kit, but they are just different enough to have different play styles. I suggest trying both champions to feel the differences
@thomasway0320 2 жыл бұрын
My friend to this day, still build Aatrox like you used to, attack speed and life steal. His love will never fade.
@GdBearman 10 ай бұрын
We miss you old prince. Rest easy. You won't be forgotten... o7
@eugenioparedes6870 2 жыл бұрын
As a Tryndamere main, I just hope his rework dont go the direction Aatrox's went. He being an auto-attacker is what i like of him, so ill cross my fingers and he doesnt lose his identity.
@katiequeen7225 2 жыл бұрын
it'll take years for him to get a rework anyways. We all know when udyr was voted to get one and how long it will be til it releases. Tryndamere didnt even win a vote
@Black-nf3tx 2 жыл бұрын
@@katiequeen7225 Udyr's rework comes out after the next 2 champions
@eugenioparedes6870 2 жыл бұрын
Well i think trynd rework isnt that far away, at the most i think it would be in 2025, but probably it will happen earlier
@lorddunst8696 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say that I very much hate Tryndmere Ult. Maybe the duration should run out faster if he isn’t hit by enemies attacks during its duration. 5 seconds of basically invincibility is a big problem, when he also has so much mobility with e (and ghost). I definitely want him to have a skillshot, preferrably over his q (so his lane sustain is nerfed). His W has a cool concept and I‘d love for him to really play around that. His e is a problem. Early game it allows for easy outtrading and late game he becomes uncatchable but with an adjusted Ult its probably way less annoying and "skillless". I don‘t want to hate on current Tryndamere players, as I actually enjoy playing him as well, but i hate the fact, that he can sometimes even 1v1 an absolutely fed player just by pressing r, ghost and auto attack.
@yankokassinof6710 2 жыл бұрын
@@lorddunst8696 thats precisely why old aatrox was no longer an auto attacker, it could not become something good in his future by being auto attackar focused, i really hope trynda gets a rework that shakes things up like it did with aatrox
@Dungeoofpain 2 жыл бұрын
For me, the reowrk that changed the most will always be sion. From being primarily played as an AP one-shotter/Tank/DPS To being either a lethality one-shotter/Tank is a massive difference. I DO like new sion though. I just think that he spent most of his life similar to the current shyvanna rather than the juggernaut he is now.
@toniperez2218 2 жыл бұрын
Aatrox, myboi. I miss him soo much
@thememelord6510 9 ай бұрын
As someone who never played when old aatrox was in the game. I love the new aatrox, he has been my main since i started the game
@lizardirl9488 2 жыл бұрын
New Aatrox is absolutely one of my favorite champions in the game. I hated old Aatrox, not my kinda playstyle at all, but I can recognise that nothing of him is left, which is really sad and in my opinion makes it a massively flopped rework even if we got a really fun champion out of it. Now even new Aatrox is gone, as picking him feels like you're in a wheelchair all game because of just how much they've handicapped him. I've started playing Lillia top to scratch the itch, and that's been my new main.
@immortaledge8830 2 жыл бұрын
It makes alot of sense that many aatrox mains at the time of the remake didnt like the new kit. I played old Aatrox and never liked him, but that was because i prefer skillshot champs. Looking back on it now if they had released new aatrox as a new champ that probably wouldve made both sides happy. New aatrox is super cool to me aesthetically and gameplay wise, Predicting movement with skillshots as a badass nihilistic drain tank?! Peak enjoyment. New aatrox=Chad
@WhoTFMadeThisChange Жыл бұрын
I feel like even back when you published this video, the new aatrox was still very close to the pre-rework version in terms of being a drain tank with the goredrinker build
@ahmadbugshan9603 2 жыл бұрын
I love the concept of dancing with death im a sylas main my favorite moments are when im super low hp and fighting healing then almost dying then healing and the fight will always be super close its so fun wish if we get more champions like that
@dewaunwarren1 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're over exaggerating the strength of his pre-work abilities. Wasn't one of the reasons why he got reworked in the first place because his ability to use warrant that good at letting him stick onto a target?
@shadows_star 2 жыл бұрын
His mini work fixed his whole champion basically, only to then get taken away with his VGU
@AcaciaAvenue 2 жыл бұрын
I'm along the line of thought of him being a totally different champion. I feel Old Aatrox's identity was about the revive and stance toggle. New Aatrox doesn't feel like Aatrox to me, just a completely different champion with different purposes, to the point that, if they would both be present in the game, they wouldn't feel anywhere near redundant. I would totally see, like, a new piece of lore where it's revealed that the current Aatrox is an usurper that managed to lock the real Aatrox away, and then he breaks free and the usurper reveals his true name (aka a name change for current Aatrox) and they become bitter rivals waging war against each other, and destroying everything wherever they fight without a clear victor, this way they could both be present in the game just fine.
@TheGurkenkrieger 2 жыл бұрын
i loved to play the old aatrox, he was one of my favorite champs, just so easy 1 v 1 on toplane :3
@arthos1194 2 жыл бұрын
Would his r add 225 range or bring him up to 225 range?
@tristan5952 2 жыл бұрын
Old Aatrox was my fav champ and I miss playing him, but as you said Aatrox at the moment is a good champion, I do enjoy him sometimes but he isnt as fun to play as he used to. Also I really dont like his new visiuals, the old Aatrox looked so badass and unique, especially his sword, the new Aatrox looks boring and just like some anime demon without the personality the old Aatrox used to have.
@brend4012 2 жыл бұрын
wdym, the old one had personality? He didn't have much info in lore. The new one actually looks very good and fits way better to modern league. I started playing midseason 4 and aatrox was always a useless troll pick everyone was complaining about. That changed only right before his s8 rework. To me he was always like a less fun tryndamere with clunky kit, easy to kite. Ppl here miss his auto attack sustaind oriented playstyle but he was actually just powerful at healing off minion waves and bursting ppl down with q+r engage. I started playing aatrox a lot only since his rework with ult reset, which made him so much more satisfying than just being a distraction. Old aatrox had mediocre playrate, but now he has a decent one, so i would say the rework was successful and i don't really miss old aatrox, which was just cheese to win, stat check, crappy champ.
@_nainportequoi_7032 2 жыл бұрын
There's a reason that he was reworked. His playstyle wasn't really doable because he was either broken or useless. I think that people are just too stuck on the "I want it to be this". It's like when they reworked Sion or Yorick, yeah you lost a few people along the way, but they're both healthier now. I might not like to play against Aatrox but he is damn fun to play as and his rework made him look great. Also you kinda underplayed the Aatrox revive. Getting a kill on it just meant that instead of diving and using your R you'd just poke them out a little and then dive and kill them 100% of the time. The revive just was not healthy on him
@yankokassinof6710 2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed
@walkelftexasranger 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ivan_shuyb9005 11 ай бұрын
R.I.P Old Aatrox. u''ll always be alive in our heart.
@agpaok0704 2 жыл бұрын
I never lost lane phase, almost every game I was farming top till the game is over, I never played deff and always hit the minions in order to heal with my w. I loved this perma push game style, even today I automatically push all the waves when I shouldn't do this. Hope they bring him back.
@kirbystars328 2 жыл бұрын
Hot take I think, but I love new Aatrox. Him before the rework just seemed a lot less interesting to play. But I sympathize with those who miss him. His rework is very different from the old one. Although him having no revive sucks. Legit removed his lore from the game.
@premasafar7813 Жыл бұрын
I remember back in the day, when Riot tried to promote crazy picks like Melee ADCs post-juggernaut patch, before they did a complete 180° on that one. Me and my best friend pushed the idea to the limits, trying all sorts of bruisers in the bottom lane alongside a support that complemented their strengths or covered their weaknesses. Old Aatrox was one of our more successful ventures. I would pick up Soraka, to compensate for the excessive use of blood price, or to make his healing even more ridiculous. He would forego any defensive items otherwise needed to survive in favor of damage and crit. The early game was rough but we could scrap deceivingly well and got some double kills on the account of our enemy's overconfidence. But never have I seen a more sudden pentakill, eviscerating the entire enemy team with a few swings and an IE, followed by a victorious push. It was a real highlight of our experiments and a memory to which I still look fondly. Our other favorite combination which we played regularly was old Kayle and Morde. None of these things exist anymore. Which is why we quit altogether. Really loved it while it lasted. Though I guess, it's better to have loved and lost, than to have never loved at all.
@TheMrFancyKiwi 3 ай бұрын
I still find it crazy how the mini rework they gave him one patch before his big VGU actually made him a good, playable champ. They finally made him good just in time to remove him.
@seannakamoto7216 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Aatrox was released and I bought him bc he looked badass. The champ grew on me and became one of my favorites. Once the rework happened, I felt like my mastery 7 became obsolete. lol I refuse to ctrl+6
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