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Abandoned For 48 YEARS? Will It Run?

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Crossthread Garage & Salvage

Crossthread Garage & Salvage

Күн бұрын

This week we finally decide to tackle the flathead in K8lynn's 1941 Ford. Will it start? Is it junk?
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@kevinherbert7564
@kevinherbert7564 Жыл бұрын
Just had sayed good bye to my uncle rip 😢I need reason to smile so much appreciate making me smile again bless you for all your videos and your dad jokes 😊❤
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying the channel Kevin. Thanks for sharing.
@patrickbrown551
@patrickbrown551 3 ай бұрын
I will pray for you
@tonywoodward3167
@tonywoodward3167 Жыл бұрын
Any time you can spend time with your kids and teach them how to do things is priceless
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony. That’s the aim. Check out our Origin Story video from a couple months ago. I go into detail about why this channel exists and what I’m hoping to do with my daughters.
@tonywoodward3167
@tonywoodward3167 Жыл бұрын
@@Xthreadgarage I try to watch all your videos I love that you guys are from Colorado I’m from there too just on the western slope and I love working on cars with my kids
@flurryr
@flurryr 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this soooo much. Caitlin, you remind me of my daughter when she was about 14.Sad to say, she doesn't talk to me. Remember, your dad will always love you even if you fail to love him. Kind of like God. He'll never stop loving you. Thanks for the Jesus moment.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing.
@kbschulze
@kbschulze 4 ай бұрын
It can run without a starter, pull start it. Starters just make it easier 😂 Cool truck!
@Paleoman52
@Paleoman52 11 ай бұрын
I really like your video and have subbed you. This was fun to watch, I'm looking forward to future videos from you. Good job!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@timothysmith5769
@timothysmith5769 11 ай бұрын
Keep at it. It'll run.
@mikebrunosgarage5338
@mikebrunosgarage5338 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let you know I just happened across your channel,love it! Keep on keeping on, and I'll check out other episodes, Thanks again!✌️
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike!
@chuckwilliams9090
@chuckwilliams9090 9 ай бұрын
Use soapy water to spray on the insects, or use the spray you were using and strict slighter when spraying it works
@Cougracer67
@Cougracer67 Жыл бұрын
You need to either get a shop manual or do some internet research! All '28 through '55 Fords were positive ground. When you bench test the starter, put nuts on the through bolts so the armature doesn't fall out!
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
It's about time you pulled the heads
@theodoredugranrut8201
@theodoredugranrut8201 Жыл бұрын
Central California watching
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@pappabob29
@pappabob29 Жыл бұрын
The 8BA's are 1949-1953. As you say, the last edition of the flatheads. Watch those solenoids, they're clever and handy but they "routinely" will stick when you press the button. If that's a "Mercury" engine (not just Merc heads), it's 255 cubic inches compared with 239 Cu In for a Ford engine.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the warning on the solenoid.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
And for watching!
@frankhartranft2133
@frankhartranft2133 Жыл бұрын
When an engine will turn but not all the way around, it's usually because valves are stuck or rings are bashing against wear ridges at the tops of the cylinders. Forcing it past that resistance will bend valve push rods or bust pistons or rings. I think it might have been best to remove the heads as soon as you felt movement followed by so much resistance.
@catman19
@catman19 Жыл бұрын
Flatheads dont have push rods
@frankhartranft2133
@frankhartranft2133 Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. Excellent point, but what I was trying to point out was that the crank turning a few degrees and then sticking like that makes me think either at least one valve is stuck (stopping the cam, which stops the crank) or else there are wear ridges in at least one cylinder that are stopping a piston, typically by jamming its rings. To force the crank with more torque might not be wise if either of those conditions exist.
@redhawk4859
@redhawk4859 Жыл бұрын
Great Video
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@TheJagjr4450
@TheJagjr4450 Жыл бұрын
still has an original split core radiator. My dad has a number of 35-49 FORD's including a 40 Woodie Wagon, 39 Rumble seat conv, 41 120" wheelbase 1-1/2 ton firetruck.
@TheJohndeere212
@TheJohndeere212 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@amerritt261
@amerritt261 9 ай бұрын
Iron City garage in PA can most likely find what you need. He has a KZfaq channel. Also transmission fluid and acetone mixed should help free the motor.
@craigmclean8260
@craigmclean8260 Жыл бұрын
Great video; hope to see continued progress on this old truck! Glad you survived the storms; we're in N. Ohio as well, and it was pretty wild for two nights in a row this past week...One night, having lost power, I got the joyous job of baling out the sump well for over an hour; needless to say, we're getting a battery backup for the sump pump next week!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks Craig, we’re west of Cleveland. The egress windows I mentioned installing last week gave me a few hours of unexpected water problems. A flower bed on the front of the house that has never held water before flooded and filled one of the window wells. Good news, the window is water tight. Bad news, I have a drainage problem I didn’t know about. Had to pull out a portable sump pump I had in the garage and empty the well about 8 times, while it was raining! Quite a storm!
@StanMcConnell-my3et
@StanMcConnell-my3et 11 ай бұрын
Check for mouse house in the bell housing water in transmission most of those oil filters drained back in to the crankcase put oil to oil pressure gauge line try holding the clutch down .
@skipstein744
@skipstein744 Жыл бұрын
A great find! Worth TLC. I had a 1953 Ford back in the day. Fun times, just don't over rev them. Onward!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
That's the plan!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@larryreece1403
@larryreece1403 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe those head bolts all came out that easy! Valves are probably stuck. PB blast them down, and tap them if stuck.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
We turned the engine over by hand a couple dozen rotation. That’s not really engaging footage thou. Checking as we turned that all the valves were moving and no cylinders had both intake and exhaust open at the same time. Valves were all moving as they should.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
The ease with which we will be able to tear this truck down is due to it sitting in an incredibly arid climate in CO. There were some years, during the last 20 years of drought, that we got 5-6 inches of precipitation for the whole year. There was never dew on the ground. It was what I imagine heaven will be like 😆
@Cougracer67
@Cougracer67 Жыл бұрын
That engine could be a '52-'53 Mercury, which was 255 cu. in. If it is an 8BA engine, those Mercury heads reduce the compression ratio significantly! The carb is a Holley, NOT a Stromberg! It looks like the original '41 carb. If it is, it is not compatible with the distributor, which means the timing advance will not work right. The distributor is vacuum advance only (no mechanical advance) and requires a matching carb. The original Mercury carb had a 4 bolt flange instead of 3.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks for the heads up!
@Cougracer67
@Cougracer67 Жыл бұрын
24 stud engines came out in about 1938 so your '41 had the 24 stud engine when new!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Interesting. This is an 8BA though, so we know it’s not the original 24stud. Thanks for the correction.
@oldcars5547720
@oldcars5547720 Жыл бұрын
If that is the original engine, it is a 221 cubic inch. The Mercury head which was probably added later came from a 239.4 cubic inch engine that was used in Mercurys for several years. You will probably be able to find another head although at this point it is not a priority. You should be able to find a carburetor rebuild kit -- they made a gozillion of those carburetors. I am overjoyed to see Katelynn doing this work and so motivated to learn everything. She is fabulous.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. This is not the original engine for the 41. It’s a later 8BA, 239. Already located a rebuild kit. Thanks for watching…and subscribing 😉
@oldcars5547720
@oldcars5547720 Жыл бұрын
@@Xthreadgarage the guys at Iron City Garage have an entire wall covered with hanging flathead heads - both originals & aftermarkets like Offenhauser et. al. She may want to eventually get fancy - there are a ton of dress-up parts for flatheads.
@PeterShaw-lb9lt
@PeterShaw-lb9lt 11 ай бұрын
It could be the clutch is rusted up the clutch plate is rusted to the fly wheel or in the gearbox as we call it in australia or as you say transmission
@philholder7983
@philholder7983 Жыл бұрын
Great find. I had a 65 f100 and I loved it. Good luck.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@405544
@405544 Жыл бұрын
When checking low resisentce, it's best not to use it in auto range. Set it to the lowest setting manually. Just the resistance of your leads should measure .1 or .2 ohms.
@jasonjones5213
@jasonjones5213 Жыл бұрын
It seems like it's still trying to turn something else along with the motor.Stuck clutch or something.Great video.
@edwardesty4951
@edwardesty4951 Жыл бұрын
I think you've done good so far. as for using jumper cables to turn a motor over they work ok for testing a starter on the bench . The starter sounds good. Myself I would throw some seafoam in it and with the filter on it tow it in gear to loosen it up. Then put the battery in properly hooked up and preferably an 8 volt and that should spin like it was running the day before. As for using the 8 volt battery the generator will charge the 8 volt battery and not burn out the rest of the electrical and even some people who may look under the hood won't even notice because they're the same size as a 6 volt battery.
@randydixon4139
@randydixon4139 Жыл бұрын
the starter will handle a 12volt battery ....hook up the battery like any other 12volt system....
@jonathanbrogdon9067
@jonathanbrogdon9067 7 ай бұрын
May be a stuck clutch to the flywheel cross threads a good name i dig your channel
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Jonathan. We’ll be returning to this project soon. Including another attempt to make it run. Stay tuned.
@tsherwoodrzero
@tsherwoodrzero Жыл бұрын
Great job. Kinda sucks it wouldn't crank over, but at least you're making progress. Something to keep in mind is that running things like a 6v starter/coil/etc at 12v tends to make the magic smoke come out. Most 12v stuff lets the magic smoke out around 16v too ;)
@oldcars5547720
@oldcars5547720 Жыл бұрын
Usually need a balast resistor in the starting circuit to use with a 12 volt battery so you don't burn everything up.
@Mercmad
@Mercmad Жыл бұрын
All the flatties I ever owned were running 12 volts, Simple resistors were available from parts places to drop the voltage ,Ford wiring was as complicated as a farm fence. The Starters were made with extra large windings etc because 6 volts puts a bigger strain on them .A few extra volts made them start easier.
@Mercmad
@Mercmad Жыл бұрын
Kaitlynns thinking OMG DAd jokes...... 😁😁BTW what locked a lot of flatties up was stuck valves,.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Valves all move freely. We rotated the engine several times over to be sure nothing was hanging up.
@vincentfalso4687
@vincentfalso4687 11 ай бұрын
It may also be possible that the pressure plate is seized to the clutch plate, maybe not, could be?
@tyhogue8316
@tyhogue8316 Жыл бұрын
She can throw a battery for sure but should probably wear safety glasses!😬👍
@wtabor4759
@wtabor4759 7 ай бұрын
Got my shirt today!!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage 7 ай бұрын
Great! Thanks for the order. Enjoy!
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
kroil will get the cylinders un stuck I use it all the time it's called the mechanics best friend
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Yes. Pistons aren’t hung up though.
@catman19
@catman19 Жыл бұрын
@@Xthreadgarage might not be hung up but still look dry,,oil the crap out of them
@charlesangell_bulmtl
@charlesangell_bulmtl 11 ай бұрын
PBlaster is expensive way to anger wasps, Dish soap @ between 10 - 35% remainder water in adjustable cone pattern spray bottle, allows 1ft. diameter circle adjusted to reach from 8-10 ft away...Best DO practice 1ST DON'T STOP SPRAYING TILL YOU KNOCKED ALL TO GROUND
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage 11 ай бұрын
😂 we were spraying a wasp and hornet pestocide. Not PB blaster. 😂
@allenmoore4400
@allenmoore4400 Жыл бұрын
Clutch might be stuck and turning gears in transmission
@bruceeggleston2871
@bruceeggleston2871 Жыл бұрын
Put vinegar in crank case to free rust then change out the oil
@mikewilliams2072
@mikewilliams2072 11 ай бұрын
Maybe the transmission is dry and needs gear lube, the main pilot shaft will still turn even if it is in neutral!!!
@peterschepman5492
@peterschepman5492 Жыл бұрын
Gald to see you two keep it up gald someone now's as much as I do and still try
@catman19
@catman19 Жыл бұрын
I did not see any oil in the cyl's
@johngray2472
@johngray2472 Жыл бұрын
Check clutch ☺️
@stevelong2108
@stevelong2108 Жыл бұрын
I hope you don’t scrap it! Too many people would love to have it!
@tectalabyss
@tectalabyss Жыл бұрын
I just subscribed. Sorry about the engine being messed up.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sun!!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
*Sub
@tectalabyss
@tectalabyss Жыл бұрын
@@Xthreadgarage You are very welcome Sir. It's great to see our young people learning skills. Big thumbs up to both of you. Before I forget again. Sometimes jumper cables will not carry enough amps to turn an engine over, That being said The sound it makes when turning sounds like a spun bearing. I had a 289 that was tight and made the same sound . I am looking forward to seeing more on that truck. Sorry I wrote a book : ) All my very best.
@justinmyslive4108
@justinmyslive4108 Жыл бұрын
That truck would be badass rat Rodded with a 7.3 powerstroke diesel with dual stacks up the back of the cab
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Fact check: True. Check out our Origin Story episode to see the ‘47 Chevy I built with a Cummins and a 5 speed.
@andrewmacdonald4833
@andrewmacdonald4833 8 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if that interior green means that it may have had a military life to begin with..
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, the previous episode to this one we found out it was built for the Civillian Conservation Corps, part of the New Deal recovery effort putting civilians to work in national parks and forests.
@danieljohnson9700
@danieljohnson9700 11 ай бұрын
It might be the valves are rusty and sticking in the valve guides
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Have you checked the valves.and if the clutch plate is stuck to the fly wheel even though the trans is in neutral it will turn overhard
@bruceeggleston2871
@bruceeggleston2871 Жыл бұрын
Is that your daughter it's cool she gotta old truck memories
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Yes it is her truck. The whole channel is the result of her buying that truck and wanting to make it her first vehicle when she gets her license. So, I’m teaching her how to work on old rigs. Be sure to subscribe, you’ll be sure to enjoy it.
@donaldwelch4755
@donaldwelch4755 Жыл бұрын
No no don't junk it I will take the cab and front clip .I have a four wheel drive chassis to put it on
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
No plans to junk it. We may cab swap it. I’ve got a ‘47 Chevy on a modern 3/4ton chassis with a Cummins in it. If the flathead’s not able to be built (cracked block) we’ll be looking at that as an option.
@Cougracer67
@Cougracer67 Жыл бұрын
With the carb off, I see the vacuum advance port so it should match with the distributor. Again, that is NOT a Stromberg. It is from a '55-'56 292 Y block, as evidenced by the "! 1/16" stamped on it (venturi size).
@PeterShaw-lb9lt
@PeterShaw-lb9lt 9 ай бұрын
What about the clutch or transmission is hanging up the clutch plate is rusted to the fly wheel
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking the same thing. When we get back into this rig the first thing we’re gonna do is pull the trans and see if that frees it up. Thanks for watching.
@travismelton4680
@travismelton4680 Жыл бұрын
Could have something to with the transmission it could have water and rust inside and rusted input shaft I have seen so much rust and water in the transmission where it wouldn't come out of gear or go into gear or where the input shaft not to turn
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Interesting you should say this. While we confirmed the truck was not in gear and the PTO wasn’t engaged, the transmission will not go into gear.
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Why did you junk a good bed ..try to pull start it
@jerrywesterfield5636
@jerrywesterfield5636 11 ай бұрын
I wondered about the bed too.
@vlehr2903
@vlehr2903 Жыл бұрын
So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness. - Colossians 2:6-7God Bless youall!
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement. And for watching to the end!! 😉
@bruceeggleston2871
@bruceeggleston2871 Жыл бұрын
My son has a 65 d100, he wants to put an ls 5.3 in it
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@mikewilliams2072
@mikewilliams2072 11 ай бұрын
If you are going to sell it for scrape I would be interested!
@billgaines8207
@billgaines8207 Жыл бұрын
I have faith in you both you might have to use a different motor awesome video
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill. I think this motor is rebuildable. Will have to check for cracks which are common in these flatheads, but as a dad, a low HP Flathead sounds pretty good for a first vehicle for K8lynn.
@billgaines8207
@billgaines8207 Жыл бұрын
That's awesome I can't wait to watch you and your princess work on the 41 Ford
@johngray2472
@johngray2472 Жыл бұрын
Check valves
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
The valves are froze up pull the heads if you know how
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
We got the heads off as you saw, and no valves were stuck. Turned over by hand several dozen times before putting a starter to it. I’ve been thinking the clutch may be dragging, the trans is stuck in neutral, can’t force it into any gear. So, no pull starting option either.
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
they were made in Pontiac Michigan plant where all of them were produced during the war
@kennycriswell141
@kennycriswell141 Жыл бұрын
Come on man check for stuck valves and get it so you make at least 2 or 3 revolutions by hand before you throw a starter to it.
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
We turned it over several dozen times before putting the starter to it. But 20 min of hand cranking a motor and living the cylinders isn’t that entertaining. Guess I failed to mention that in the video. Thanks for watching!
@jamesblake365
@jamesblake365 8 ай бұрын
Your lifters are probably tucked
@bruceeggleston2871
@bruceeggleston2871 Жыл бұрын
Try removing the transmission it might be stuck
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you try pull starting it
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Pull the heads
@countrygentleman4084
@countrygentleman4084 8 ай бұрын
Pull it around in gear get the engine tuning over
@wesleysmith7676
@wesleysmith7676 Жыл бұрын
48 was the 1st year of the flat head v8
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
‘48 was the first year for the 8BA series of the Ford flathead. It was introduced in the mid-‘30’s though.
@danderson9881
@danderson9881 11 ай бұрын
So a starter from a 40's Ford is worth more than a clapped out 80's rusted out Chevy, LOL And just think that chevy probably has had more than one starter in its young life...
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you pull the heads
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
yes your correct
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Is that girl your daughter
@jackwatts8030
@jackwatts8030 11 ай бұрын
Your comments not very respectful
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
on a good note you have the hot rods desired flathead it has an actual distributor
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you do the work your self shevis just slowing things down plus she don't know what @
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Thomas, the whole channel is about me teaching my daughter how to do this stuff. She’s only been working with me like this for a few months. Thanks for watching.
@thomasputnam4491
@thomasputnam4491 Жыл бұрын
Why do you try and work on cars when you don't know what your doing? Sell me the truck ok?
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
I work on my own stuff for two reasons: I’m willing to learn and can’t afford to pay a professional. 😆 my daughter bought this truck which money from selling her goats. We’re going to get it back on the road for her first vehicle when she gets her license.
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
CCKW 353 Duce half
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
which means it don't have the magneto type
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
it has two water pumps
@Xthreadgarage
@Xthreadgarage Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@RedLegs44
@RedLegs44 Жыл бұрын
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