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Acerthorn

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Table of Contents:
0:00 - Intro
1:39 - Regarding Maseae
5:03 - Regarding Lady Emily
8:41 - Regarding Lawly
17:29 - Harm Chuggaa has Suffered
20:19 - You Mustn't Stop Making Videos
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@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
After careful consideration, I've decided not to make a Part 5 to this series. The reason for this is because the developments that have happened since then don't really change my perspective. Some clarifications have come from Masea and Lawly, but my overall points remain the same: Emile is only nominally culpable in the worst case scenario, it all happened so long ago that the parties and fans all deserve to move on from it, no long-term or significant harm was done by Emile even in the worst case scenario, and even barring all of that, none of us have the right to take the law into our own hands in any event. There was nothing in any of these new developments that significantly altered my positions on any of these things. So Lawly as shown that it was seven years, not ten, when she and Chuggaa reconnected on Discord. Whoopdie-doo. What does that change? How does that mitigate or aggravate Chuggaa's alleged grooming in any way, shape, or form? If you were convinced he was a groomer before, this new factoid isn't going to make him less of a groomer, and if you were previously on his side to begin with, this one little factoid isn't going to suddenly cause you to see him as the devil, either. Same thing with the sexually explicit gift. So Lawly clarifies that it was a shirt with an arrow that pointed to his junk. Ok, what does that CHANGE?! How does this warrant me going back and reconsidering my previous points that I mentioned in the first paragraph of this comment? It doens't. So I will not be posting a Part 5 on this series, owing to the fact that I have nothing new to say. I hope, for Chuggaa's sake, that, the story can now finally die and he can get closure and move on with his life.
@venobit
@venobit 3 ай бұрын
Remember, this was all started because someone complemented chugguconroy
@davindrasooknanan5501
@davindrasooknanan5501 3 ай бұрын
And you wanna know the sickening part about this? Those people get to go on with life as usual. Masae continues streaming. Lady Emily continues being an online personality. Idk about the little liar but I'm assuming her life goes on as normal. But Emile is out here fighting for his life and a career in the future. It's a sickening reality
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Here's hoping that Chuggaa lawyers up and sues Lady Emily for libel.
@kevinstone6797
@kevinstone6797 3 ай бұрын
Emily probably hated herself one day and decided “I feel like ruining a man’s career today”
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Here's hoping that Chuggaa lawyers up and takers her to court for libel.
@voiceunderthecovers
@voiceunderthecovers 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn That's not who Emile is.
@TheQuilava96
@TheQuilava96 3 ай бұрын
Because I relatively liked everyone involved in this drama, I waited for more information and man… finding out Masae and Emile were dating and engaged for 10 years is a shock. It makes her thread about why she cut contact with him seem so disingenuous. I hate internet culture where someone makes an accusation and people will just immediately side with whoever made the claim without waiting for more info.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Here's hoping Chuggaa lawyers up and takes at least some of them to court for libel.
@sonic23233
@sonic23233 3 ай бұрын
I hope so
@joec7217
@joec7217 3 ай бұрын
I'm so happy he addressed the Lawly stuff because that's what made me go against him in the first place. Lady Emily I already knew was full of shit, but Lawly was like the one thing I wanted to know, and I'm glad he cleared it up. I'm so sorry for Emile
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Here's hoping he lawyers up and takes Lawly to court for libel.
@joec7217
@joec7217 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn Yeah
@joec7217
@joec7217 3 ай бұрын
@@0Mitzuio She was the one who did most of the sexual stuff tho. It doesn't matter if she's a minor, it's the fact that SHE'S the one who did the sexual stuff and sent him a sexual gift. Emile had a problem with it. Lawly isn't the innocent one here
@joec7217
@joec7217 3 ай бұрын
@@0Mitzuio 19 is legally an adult, yes, but I don't believe you're a fully functioning adult the moment you turn 18. You're still kinda immature as a 19 year old. And Emile in 2010 is NOT how Emile in 2024 is. People change. People grow. People learn. Emile has done all of that, and guess what? He's been getting help and tried to long before all this came out. So instead of putting the pedo card on him, maybe re-read his statement before you point fingers at Emile again
@joec7217
@joec7217 3 ай бұрын
@@0Mitzuio And he acknowledged that, and apologized
@pjdava
@pjdava 3 ай бұрын
Acerthorn, This is great! I liked it and subscribed!
@ColeConCon
@ColeConCon 2 ай бұрын
So we’ve got another ProJared situation
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 2 ай бұрын
Oh dear. Care you fill me in?
@ColeConCon
@ColeConCon 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@AcerthornProJared was falsely accused of misconduct in a very similar manner as what it looks like happened to Chugga and had his name dragged through the mud a few years ago. He stayed silent for a very long time waiting for his lawyers advice before finally making a video where he had the receipts that cleared his name. I believe the video was called “You’ve been lied to” or something along those lines
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 2 ай бұрын
@@ColeConCon Oh, I thought it was something recent ... something I could cover in the present.
@hoothoot7122
@hoothoot7122 3 ай бұрын
I hope he keeps posting and grows from this
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Me too.
@shinobisakura4366
@shinobisakura4366 3 ай бұрын
I saw the statement as soon as it was released. I have to admit i had a mariad of emotions that hit. Two fore most emotions, Anger and grief. Emile is a better person then me. I would never had been cordial. My temper would have gotten the better of me. My heart aches over the fact he had to share things he shouldn't have had to. Things that should have stayed personal, and that there is a chance we might have to say goodbye. Im hoping he wont leave yt, but i understand if he has to..but my heart aches
@LisaVGG
@LisaVGG 3 ай бұрын
Mine too dude 😢
@tyleryoung-vh5hp
@tyleryoung-vh5hp 2 ай бұрын
Chuggaa if you see this video I just have to say please keep making videos I have been watching you since I was 7 or 8 and I just know you aren't what those people are saying and I know you would never do any of those things please keep doing KZfaq I've always looked up to you.
@Dragoon601
@Dragoon601 3 ай бұрын
I fucking KNEW Emily was lying out her ass when it came to those screebshots! Thank GOD Chuggaa finally gave us the context and more screenshots that incriminated Emily! This is the second time that I know of where she tried to cancel someone. I'm waiting for the twitter post where she tries to defend her actions
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Here's hoping Chuggaa lawyers up and takes her ass to court for libel.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Here's hoping that Chuggaa lawyers up and takers her to court for libel.
@Yellow_Plus_Red
@Yellow_Plus_Red 3 ай бұрын
What is the gameplay from?
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure: store.steampowered.com/app/322290/Gurumin_A_Monstrous_Adventure/
@lmaniac58
@lmaniac58 3 ай бұрын
Edit: I accidently deleted my comment when I meant to edit...cool *Incoming rant, read at your own risk!* Being honest the whole thing made no sense....according to Emily she was "uncomfortable." She also gave 100% consent to Emile and said multiple times that she was "ok" with this. I'm sorry but *someone who is "uncomfortable" isn't going to continue to do something they're uncomfortable with,* that's bs to begin with. Also a foot fetish? People realize that is what 4chan consists of? This is not new, idk why people are acting like this is a new fetish. The argument of "well I didn't want to kink shame" well uh that's the thing you don't have kink shame but you *can say "hey you know what this makes me uncomfortable can we not?"* And idk if this bothered her so much why the fuck did she wait soooo fucking long to say something about it? Sure what he did was stupid and frankly when he found out her age, he should of stopped but people can be dumb. Also it's shitty that Masae just seemingly jumped on this hate train. I get being bitter about the break up and all but idk her just suddenly coming out with these allegations with little to no details just screams bull shit. Again if this was such a problem why wait for someone else to say something to then say "oh yea he did this." Also the thing with Lawly, she's not so innocent either. I love the fact that people are soooo focused on that she was 15 that they are overlooking the crap that SHE said in her own posts. "It doesn't matter she was 15" ah yes because as we all know people below 18 are ATUOMATICALLY INNOCENT. Frankly if you actually read a lot of her posts in there, it's pretty fucked up, like one of the text going on how "it's not really rape if it's consent" in reply to one of Emile's texts as well as many other texts. Ah yes such an innocent 15 year old.
@jomichel3594
@jomichel3594 3 ай бұрын
something that comes to my head about the whole Masae thing is how Chuggaa talked about it I have the feeling that Masae cheated on him with her now boyfriend this may not be true but I get the wibe of it
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. It may have been something like this: www.tiktok.com/@redditfeeds/video/7270337485102763310 We should not assume details where none are given, ESPECIALLY when it comes to someone's personal life that they only talked about begrudgingly because it was being made public anyway so that ship had already sailed.
@jomichel3594
@jomichel3594 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn like I said it was just the wibe I am getting with the sentence in that it was a difficult breakup, so it doesn't have to be like it
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@jomichel3594 Still, we shouldn't pry into his personal life when it's clear he never wanted it to become public in the first place. The breakup happened three years ago, so if it took him this long to talk publicly about it, it's clear he never wanted to. He only nominally addressed it because it had already become public to begin with. We should respect that boundary of his.
@jomichel3594
@jomichel3594 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn yeah we shouldn't pry into his personal life but we can write our thoughts about what is in our mind
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@jomichel3594 Well, keep that to yourself. I'm not a nosy bastard like that.
@phantom_anime
@phantom_anime 3 ай бұрын
I figured stuff like what was said was not true. Just goes to show you that people will believe anything on the internet
@stickfigure8416
@stickfigure8416 3 ай бұрын
At the end, I don't think Chugga should keep making videos just to dunk on the haters, or because fans want it I think he should only continue his career if he truly wants to, he shouldn't have to give up something he enjoys on someone else's behalf But on the same breath, he shouldn't keep going if he doesn't think it's worth the stress. He should do what he feels is best for himself, and we should support him on it. If he forces himself to continue when he doesn't want to just to send a message, it'll likely result in making worse content I hope he comes back eventually, but I much rather he stays healthy and happy
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
No, giving the haters what they want is NEVER a good move. It will only encourage them.
@stickfigure8416
@stickfigure8416 3 ай бұрын
I agree on that point, but I'm far, FAR more concerned about his mental health
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@stickfigure8416 Did it ever occur to you that it's not all about him? The whole "mental health" defense can also apply to rape victims or victims of police brutality. If anything, Chuggaa should be shamed for letting these fuckers get away with their bullshit.
@tjlnintendo
@tjlnintendo 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn Defamation lawsuits are hard as fuck to succeed in since you need to prove malicious intent was involved which in the court of law is very difficult and expensive. But I agree he shouldn’t quit making videos.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
*"you need to prove malicious intent"* No, you need to prove "actual malice," and that phrase has a different meaning in defamation law than it has in everyday usage. It means Emile only has to prove that Lady Emily either (A) knew what she was saying was false, or (B) acting in reckless disregard to whether she was telling the truth or not. As long as he can prove either of those two things, it doesn't matter if Emily "intended to hurt" Emile or not. I'm pretty sure Legal Eagle said as much in a video discussing defamation law. I'll see if I can find the clip.
@codywasson5894
@codywasson5894 3 ай бұрын
And well with this news Masae kinda made it so Protonjon screwed himself for this year’s colosseum because he keeps her it’s like he’s saying “Yeah I don’t care she lied to me I’ll still collab with her.” if he gets rid of her for this year’s colosseum it’s the same as burning a bridge I’m gonna respect his decision no matter what and this is assuming that the entire TRG circle didn’t know that Masae and Chuggaa were dating/engaged. I’m not attacking Masae I just want to make that clear.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
*"this is assuming that the entire TRG circle didn’t know that Masae and Chuggaa were dating/engaged"* We have no reason to assume that, though. Chuggaa said that all of his friends knew about their relationship. Why wouldn't that include Jon Wheeler and Tim Bishop?
@codywasson5894
@codywasson5894 3 ай бұрын
Well like I said assuming I don’t want to pry information from Jon and Tim I’m not a content creator so I rather have Jon and Tim figure out if Masae is gonna continue to collab with them without us prying. If that makes sense to you.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@codywasson5894 You mean if she's going to ever be the 4th person on TRG ever again? That I don't know. To be fair, Jon has said that he is now distancing himself professionally from Emile, so for all we know, TRG is dead anyway.
@codywasson5894
@codywasson5894 3 ай бұрын
I heard Tim and Jon are gonna do another collab channel that’s more why I’m saying what I’m saying.
@shinobisakura4366
@shinobisakura4366 3 ай бұрын
Lawly is still trying to put the blame on Emile. She released a doc through werster saying chugga is a lyer and she didn't try to manipulate him...
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Send the link to my business email, please.
@shinobisakura4366
@shinobisakura4366 3 ай бұрын
What is your business email?
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@shinobisakura4366 On my channel
@shinobisakura4366
@shinobisakura4366 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn alright... i found it..dont why, but mobile format, especially the app, will not show your email. You should get an email from me with lawly's response and chugga's
@junioraura9958
@junioraura9958 3 ай бұрын
For Acerthorn & Chuggaa. When you talked about Chuggaa's responce to all this and what really happened my blood started to boile I got so mad that I actually started to laugh uncontrolably which has NEVER happened to me before but now i'm just sad the thought that a youtuber i've watched for years mite be leaving forever all because some jerks lied about him is gut renching. And if you are reading/watching this Chuggaa I agree with Acerthorn 100% don't let the liers win if you really TRUELY want to leave youtube I understand and please know you will be GREATLY missed but if you're leaving because of "them" please Please PLEASE! don't let them win PLEASE don't go i'm fighting back teers just typing this... Please in these hard times the internet can't lose one of it's best all because of the lies spred by some of it's worst.
@hiduck8247
@hiduck8247 3 ай бұрын
He was just a victim of an evil 15 year old and there was nothing he could do about it. Period
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Lawly is the REAL villain here. Here's hoping that Chuggaa lawyers up and takes Lawly to court for libel.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@0Mitzuio Chuggaa took the responsible approach and broke contact when the conversations turned overly sexual.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@0Mitzuio *"he should have left immediately after knowing her age"* And there, you just admitted it: The level of sexuality doesn't matter. As long as he's "texting a minor" in any way, shape, or form, he's a groomer. So you have no credibility.
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@0Mitzuio You know what ... www.tiktok.com/@.fathertime/video/7091643055299726635
@TheUrbanLegend52
@TheUrbanLegend52 3 ай бұрын
Fuck how nowadays it’s guilty til proven innocent. Hate I couldn’t speak how I felt how bs the situation was. I recall some friends calling him a creep for having a foot fetish and it makes sense. But the fact he wasn’t asking for forgiveness but explaining himself and people still spin it around. How he shouldn’t had said he and Masae were a couple. My guy’s EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM WAS AIRED OUT AND LEFT VAGUE! Of course he had to say that cause people were prodding Masae at a con for info! And the fact he response just made Chuggaa look even more sus just…god this shit is so annoying and unfair to everyone affected by the internet’s actions
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
*"calling him a creep for having a foot fetish and it makes sense."* No, it doesn't. A foot fetish is entirely tame. I even address that in Part 1 of this series.
@TheUrbanLegend52
@TheUrbanLegend52 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn oh no I didn’t agree with that, but the amount of people who said and I was just like, “Really that’s your argument?”
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@TheUrbanLegend52 *"oh no I didn’t agree with that"* Honestly, if you think a foot fetish makes someone a pervert, you are extremely sheltered.
@TheUrbanLegend52
@TheUrbanLegend52 3 ай бұрын
@@Acerthorn Is this towards me or towards those who were calling him a perv cause of the foot fetish thing? Cause I’m just saying I saw people react that way and thought that was a dumb opinion. Like, sure it’s not everyone’s thing but man is a foot fetish super tame. Having a specific fetish shouldn’t mean you’re immediately denounced. Well there may be few here or there lol
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
@@TheUrbanLegend52 Your latest comment honestly sounds like the complete opposite of your original comment.
@zackupchurch2395
@zackupchurch2395 3 ай бұрын
"You can't just expect him to accept that she broke up with him on adime" sure you can, bud 🤨
@Acerthorn
@Acerthorn 3 ай бұрын
No, you can't.
@Whodascrahd
@Whodascrahd 3 ай бұрын
Have you been dumped? It hurts. Lingering feelings are still there. It's probably safe to assume he tried to win her back and thats what made the break up go badly. Which is why both want nothing to do with eachother and why Masae left everyone.
@codywasson5894
@codywasson5894 3 ай бұрын
@Whodascrahd So does that mean Masae isn’t going to be a member in the thrown controllers colosseum then?
@Whodascrahd
@Whodascrahd 3 ай бұрын
@@codywasson5894 I don't think that Masae has been on Thrown Controllers for a while now.. which, considering the current evidence being released, makes sense..
@codywasson5894
@codywasson5894 3 ай бұрын
Well protonjon rebranded TRG colosseum to thrown controllers colosseum and if you look at Masae’s community post she pretty much said she was going. With the whole thing about her being engaged to Emile out in the open now I feel like she shouldn’t go now but that’s just me.
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