ACETYLENE TANK CORE removal

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THIS IS NOT A VIDEO ABOUT OPERATING AN OXYACETYLENE TORCH! IN PART OF THE VIDEO IT MAY SEEM LIKE ALL IM DOING IS COMPRESSING THE CORE BUT WHAT IS ACUTALLY BEING DONE IS ME TRYING TO GET ANY MOVEMENT FROM TOP PRESSURE TO BOTTOM MOVEMENT. SURE THE BOTTOM IS BLOCK FROM COMMING COMPLETLY OUT BUT THERE ARE AREAS THAT YOU COULD BE ABLE TO SEE MOVEMENT EVEN JUST ALITTLE BIT.. WHAT IS STOPPING THE CORE FROM COMMING OUT IS THE WELD JOINT INSIDE OF THE TANK.. ITS LIKE A SPEED BUMP OR CURB TO THE CORE.if you plan on doing this, do further research. I'm only sharing my own experience and knowlege. but other wise this video is carefully removing core from acetylene tank for the first time to see what it would actually take. don't use grinders. portaband is safer.

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@truckladders4104 2 жыл бұрын

When i was younger I worked in a scrap metal yard. We got 3 45” trailers of these! They were free fro a welding gas supplier. The steel shell is 1 heavy melt We were having a slow winter so it was decided to cut them up We removed the blow out plugs grouped them together and burned them Once the fire settled down we were able to cut torch them. On the seams They peeled like bananas We ran an overhead gantry fo the torch hoses It looked like the end of days Even in the middle of a Canadian winter it was 90F in the cutting area The residual rock continued to burn. We got through the entire load with only 3 that went off love rockets! Now I am older I can’t believe we did this but at least the Tax Man didnt get the yard!

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

That is a great story thank you for sharing!!

@truckladders4104 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reply The things we did before OSHA in the interest of business! Canada is a tough country to own a small business in. We always needed to push the edge! Accetlyene tanks and the gas are very dangerous and often misunderstood One operating rule that is often overlooked is line pressure at the regulator Over 15psi and the gas starts to become liquid Very unstable! Well hope you have a great project and a great time with welding

@johnsummers172 2 жыл бұрын

My Father was a welder since the 30"s, I learned the the bottle is filled with DE (diatomaceous earth) and acetone. the DE removes anyfree air space and the acetone absorbs the acetylene like carbonation in soda pop. Free acetylene under pressure will auto-ignite. Just what I learned a long time ago. Also why you need to keep the bottle upright when in use.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Right on thanks for the information

@mikeirwin9985 2 жыл бұрын

That answers a question for me.I knew there was acetone but the other component was a mystery until now.

@oldroscoe2590 2 жыл бұрын

I doubt I ever have the occasion to do this but if I do, now I know how to go about it. Thanks.

@campbellmorrison8540 2 жыл бұрын

I knew there was some sort of material inside these bottles but I had no idea there was that much! amazing there is any room for gas

@ethanbarrieau7917 2 жыл бұрын

The gas actually gets dissolved in acetone and then the acetone is absorbed to the sponge.

@tg9754 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I never knew those tanks were not hollow. Very interesting...

@feliciaalexander5032 2 жыл бұрын

Another awesome video ! Keep em coming!

@fakeitormakeit83 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video ! I have an ancient old acetylene bottle quite a bit smaller than that one im thinking it would be a good start to a small knife gas forge. Ill definitely reference your video in my video description!

@fakeitormakeit83 2 жыл бұрын

Edit: just thought about what you said about the asbestos....may need to think on that some more 🤔

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Awsome thank you

@lloydscharf6897 2 жыл бұрын

Actually The acetylene doesn't cut Steel it heats the steel to the ignition temperature and the oxygen does the cutting .

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Your right. I'm a welder I use these tanks on a regular basis this video is not about operating a torch. that comment your referring to I made in the video is to give the viewer more of an idea how flammable/dangerous the contents are.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Read video description

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

@Lloyd Scharf

@anomamos9095 2 жыл бұрын

They are usually filled with Kapok and acetone. These are needed as acetylene go boom under pressure without them. Hopefully after five years with the valve open the residue is gone and there won’t be a boom. I am commenting as he straps the cylinder to the bench.

@daveayerstdavies 2 жыл бұрын

The liquid in the porous matrix is not pressure liquified gas like a propane tank. Acetylene is unstable at relatively low pressure so you can't use pressure to liquify it. Instead, it's dissolved in acetone at low pressure. When you crack open the regulator the acetylene comes out of solution like the bubbles in carbonated water.

@pmpwiz 2 жыл бұрын

Idea: Weld 2 or 3 hacksaw blades end to end (enough to reach end to end in cylinder). Attach to jigsaw or sawzall. Drill one hole through core material - near wall. Insert extended blade into hole and saw around the ID of the cylinder.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea. That was actually going to be my last resort with sawzall blades. But might have alittle trouble turning as you cut. so multiple holes and watch out for the raised welded area on the inside.

@ranchulaazul5439 2 жыл бұрын

Another gem dragon!!

@RANDOMNATION907 2 жыл бұрын

I always wondered what was in one of those. Thank you.

@dunc71 2 жыл бұрын

When cutting into propane or other flammable gas I would remove the valve and fill with water, this will displace any gas left at atmospheric pressure. Maybe different with acetylene or because you had left it open for so long. The lip inside the edge of the weld is where one half of the tank has been swaged to allow the other half to fit over for a nice weld.

@allangibson2408 2 жыл бұрын

That doesn’t work with acetylene cylinders as they are full of plaster of Paris soaked in acetone. You simply can’t get water into them.

@xiamaramu1538 23 күн бұрын

I had to cut mine as the scrapyard did not take it otherwise. I took my time, used a hammer to get the valve off... tried to flood the tank but failed. Grind the body with care and dealt with the core... it was carbon in my case. The drive stunk like acetone for 3 days but job done.

@kenbtheman 2 жыл бұрын

I've cut these about a foot from each end and. made really nice hanging bells from them. Hang a leather cord inside with a large nut or washer. Sound is beautiful.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Right on my plan is to make a few out of this take

@stevesmith2171 2 жыл бұрын

There are some guys down in Mexico who can fill you in on how to cut the middle seam remove some of the core and put it back together where you can't even tell after they've been sandblasted and repainted. I have no clue why they were doing that 🤔

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

I don't need to go to Mexico for that.

@hunterwilliams9632 2 жыл бұрын

I like your art don't know what part of country you live in I'm in louisville,Ky and have a lot of metal / pipe /tanks saved cause I weld if your looking for something may be able to help

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in central California. OK cool thank you

@fredwood1490 2 жыл бұрын

I was a Welder for 45 years and I always wondered what was inside one of those.

@17hmr243 2 жыл бұрын

i tried this i cut base of and shot at it with air rifle didnt do much hammered at it. old plumbers said old tanks wer asbestos

@88yazzy 2 жыл бұрын

Dope!

@whoknows335 2 жыл бұрын

you HAVE TO support the steel tank separate from the filler with clearance enough for the filler to push out the bottom,what you are doing @ 9:51 and before, is compressing the filler .

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

I understand that. You won't see the bottom in this video. If the core is moving at all there would be an indent on the bottom and alittle movement on top which there was not due to the weld joint in the middle holding it in place. This is a soft core. If you don't believe me. Do one yourself!!!

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

I think you need to rewatch the video and actually pay attention this time

@theonlybuzz1969 2 жыл бұрын

As we say here “where there’s a will, there’s always a relative”

@timkirkpatrick9155 2 жыл бұрын

filler is soft fire brick to hold the acetone which the acetylene dissolves in.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. keeps the acetylene stable and defused.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

The filler can also be made from different types of material

@ironworkerfxr7105 2 жыл бұрын

@Dr. Frankensteel yes like balsa wood,, some type of cardboard, or ASBESTOS. ..

@michaeljohnson-iw6jb 2 жыл бұрын

Asbestos is often a component of the filler!!!

@baccus61 2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it's diatomaceous earth or plain old kitty litter.

@handleton7219 Ай бұрын

Cool video, but what really caught my eye, was, is that starscream in the background? Did you make it yourself?

@dr.frankensteel2759 Ай бұрын

Thanks. Yes I made it. Gargoyle sculpture. Have a few videos of me working on it

@Nabraska49 2 жыл бұрын

Just wondering if a pressure washer would have blasted the stuff out .

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Doubt it. It's similar to drywall

@Rob-di7uu 2 жыл бұрын

I worked about 4000 - 8000 yards from a crushing plant and when ever a oxy/acet/propane cylinder got in the crusher our all building just shook with the explosions never could see how this got past HSE (health and safety executive)

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

That must have been a long time ago....

@Rob-di7uu 2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.frankensteel2759 no only 3years back when I left. Still happening now

@PatrickLeeUS 2 жыл бұрын

You should have used a DOT SP6517 large (360cf) cylinder, it doesn't have an internal lip.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't have a choice between tanks. Two of these tanks were given to me

@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын

HOW thick is the steel wall of the tank?????

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

3/16

@victoryfirst2878 2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.frankensteel2759 Thanks Dr. Frankensteel.

@tonythompson9049 2 жыл бұрын

No sir i don't think im going to mess with it

@slyteen2197 2 жыл бұрын

Great video but do remember that some cylinders contain asbestos.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yeah I re-edited this video the has more info on acetylene tanks and what I did to this tank. It's the re-edited version on my channel

@michaelesplin529 2 жыл бұрын

Early ones also used balsa wood.

@alext8828 2 жыл бұрын

You just cut the bottom off and put an air hose onto the valve and give it some pressure. 125psi will shoot that thing to New Jersey. You gotta be a lot lazier than you are.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Have you actually tried that before?

@alext8828 2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.frankensteel2759 No. Sadly, I made the whole thing up, but it does sound like it could have possibilities. Sorry. I know it could be dangerous. Try low pressure and see if it budges. Good luck.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

I won't be trying this method being as there is a weld holding it in place like i showed in the video

@alext8828 2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.frankensteel2759 Excellent idea.

@maximusmurua4437 2 жыл бұрын

So what's it for?

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to make some bells

@awheezle 2 жыл бұрын

I would’ve tried dissolving it with a solvent or something. But I just like pretending to be a mad scientist lol.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Haha that would be dangerous. I'd experiment with trying to dissolve drywall first

@VuongVanToan-MienQueSocTrang 2 жыл бұрын

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

@MsBizzyGurl 2 жыл бұрын

Who else was slightly anxietal? Also, Sawzall! 😆

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Anxietal? What about the sawzall?

@MsBizzyGurl 2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.frankensteel2759 acetylene tank + metal saw = sparks

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Portabands make sparks? Sawzall wasn't used on metal....

@bradleywhite9118 2 жыл бұрын

0:39 WRONG - The acetylene gas in the cylinder is dissolved in acetone which is absorbed by the porous mass. Decomposition of the acetylene is triggered by heat, when it is: The porous mass slows down any decomposition of the gas. This is why the cylinder needs to be kept upright, if used on its side the acetone would also come out with the acetylene.

@dr.frankensteel2759 2 жыл бұрын

Check out the re-edited version

@allangibson2408 2 жыл бұрын

Acetylene is a heat and impact sensitive high explosive. It doesn’t just decompose - it detonates. Absorption in acetone tames these tendencies somewhat but having cleaned up after an acetylene bottle filling facility detonation, that spread the factory over four square miles, it should be treated with respect.