Acetylene Tanks, What's In Em?

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Voo Doo Tennessee

6 жыл бұрын

Ever wondered what the difference is between a Acetylene bottle and every other bottle? Watch this and find out!

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@aaronfu2 6 жыл бұрын

An Acetylene Tank is typically filled with Gypsum. You could cut both ends off and remove it in a Hydraulic Press or simply dissolve it with Hot, Dilute HCL.

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

aaronfu2 good info, thanks!

@themanwhoknows100 6 жыл бұрын

The Masse inside, is designed to absorb the acetone or coolant (DMF). so that when filling the acetylene, it remains evenly distribute and cooled even when under duress! At work we have a list of about 20 porose masses that can be filled, some require retesting every 5 years whilst other 10years. They are Micropor masses which is a mix of natural products, bims, carbon, calcium... and also porous masses which are chemical, traditionally with asbestos fibres, up until th 1990's... In Europe. all masses have different features and maximum gas capacity (g/m2). Source... Acetylene cylinder requalifier/tester based in Germany.

@mountainman5025 6 жыл бұрын

most new acetylene tanks are filled with cork, and the acetylene tanks are done this way because acetylene is very unstable.

@schuur10 6 жыл бұрын

I guess you work in a hospital stabilize fractures with Gypsum, Acetylene cylinders are filled with pumice-stone!

@whirlybird7243 4 жыл бұрын

Acetylene tanks are filled with Diatomaceous earth and then Acetone is added to the tank. When the acetylene is pumped in it mixes with the acetone which stabilizes it.

@keithjurena9319 2 жыл бұрын

Depending on year of manufacture, the mass may contain asbestos. Acetylene is unstable above 15 PSI by itself. Dissolved in acetone and DMF, it is stable beyond 30 PSI. This allows more volume than pressure alone allows. The mineral filling absorbs the acetone/DMF liquid so when the acetone is withdrawn, it doesn't bubble like a beer into the regulator. Acetone isn't corrosive, acidic or basic. It is downright scary because of its instability and flammability over a wide range.

@HDSME Жыл бұрын

Excellent I'm hvac guy and yiu be shocked how no one knows they filled with semi Co Crete and acetone thank you great vedio

@richardsandwell2285 6 жыл бұрын

Someone burned a hole in an Acetylene tank with a torch ? WTF, did they have a death wish or something.

@Getsnakebit 5 жыл бұрын

“There’s just no reason to cut these in half.... Now I’m gonna cut this one in half.” 👍🏻👍🏻

@williamokrasinski9840 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the lesson on the inerds of the C2H2 tank. From what I've read Agamassan is the substrate in the tank (Wiki), and Acetylene is unstable in it's pure form, hence it is dissolved in Acetone making it safe to transport and use.

@jmyers9853 3 жыл бұрын

acetylene is unstable by itself, that is why acetylene regulators have a red danger area on the dial past 15 psi, your line pressure should not exceed 15 psi.

@ronireland6601 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the education of what is with in the tank! This could save someone life!

@donparker8246 2 жыл бұрын

They also fill the tanks with acetone, which helps to absorb the acetylene. They used to use shredded corn cobs as the absorbent material.

@gtb81. 5 жыл бұрын

i have an oxy-acetylene set and i have always wandered about the take difference, glad i now know!

@joeestes8114 4 жыл бұрын

I had no idea they're like that! Great to know! Thanks for sharing!

@SkyChaserCom 5 жыл бұрын

The solid porous "matrix" inside the tank is basically gypsum (similar to plaster of paris). Its also called agamassan. Its soaked with acetone which acetylene is highly soluble in under pressure. Acetylene under pressure by itself will convert to explosive peroxides at or above room temperatures. These will make a powerful bomb if acetylene was introduced into an "empty" (normal) gas cylinder.

@peterectasy2957 5 жыл бұрын

not peroxides. there is no oxygen for such reaction. acetylene above critical pressure polymerize explosively

@dyl54545 Жыл бұрын

3:37 soiled drawers got me lol

@dogoargento3502 9 ай бұрын

It’s like: you didn’t have to remind me about, “this one time ,at band camp” 😢😅😅

@dancrampton 6 жыл бұрын

Thx! Always wondered what it actually looked like.

@jasonharvey6487 3 жыл бұрын

One other reason for the porous mass in these cylinder is that it acts like a large flash back arrestor.Most of the cylinders that i have retested over a number of years have been full of asbestos.In general no dings to the outer shell...and also not let it dry out as the mass will shrink...Not all that hard to work the numbers out.Tare weight...M.T weight....Full weight...some cylinders will also have the solvent weight on them....makes it really easy....have filled many over the years at home....not one problem....treat like a lady...all will be fine.....how....all starts with a deep freeze.....ex gas company worker...great video keep it up...cheers

@100nortonfan7 2 жыл бұрын

When I heard "Ancetylene" I paused to see if I was pronouncing "Acetylene" wrong. Anyway, I enjoyed the content of your video.

@VooDooTennessee 2 жыл бұрын

On no my friend, it is 100% me who says it wrong!

@ianaristotlethompson4186 3 жыл бұрын

Great explanation.

@linwoodfuller2573 3 жыл бұрын

Saved me hours thank you

@BrilliantDesignOnline 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, always wondered.

@drumtwo4seven 5 жыл бұрын

Some sort of porous roxk material kind of looks like pumice stone it has acetylene suspended in it and acetylene vapors rise to the top and thats what burns at the torch tip... acetylene vapor

@JohnSmith-rc3ko 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Brother

@alexandria4323 5 жыл бұрын

My quick question is if you were to cut it on the other axis , would the two haves knock out easier?

@jackdawg4579 6 жыл бұрын

That was excellent Brendan! never seen inside one before! I didnt realise it was a solid matrix, I always thought it was only liquid acetone that the acetylene was dissolved in, and it could just pour out! That C size acetelyne tank I have been saving in the shed can go to the dump now! (The oxygen tank is another story......)

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

I use the acetylene ones for blocking 4 wheeler trails, illegal ones.

@jackdawg4579 6 жыл бұрын

that would do it :)

@chriswesney 6 жыл бұрын

Voo Doo Tennessee Just FYI on that...I was exploring trails in my home town about 10 years ago on my dirtbike. I had been on the trail years before and knew the general layout but didn't ride there often. Somebody (perhaps even the owner of the property-I don't know) thought it would be a good idea to lay a telephone pole (about 8 feet of one) across the trail to "keep dirtbikes off". Well, luckily I saw the pole at the last second at about 35-40mph. I was lucky and missed the pole. I did crash but I didn't break my neck like I would have if I would have hit it. About a year later another guy died from the same thing. PLEASE DON'T LAY SHIT ACROSS TRAILS. I don't ride where I'm not wanted or allowed but I've been lost, gone exploring, etc. and that can kill/cripple somebody.

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

If you hit any of these you are 50 yards past 2 impossible to miss no trespassing signs, play stupid games win stupid prizes.

@williamwhitman9073 6 жыл бұрын

That is probably gypsum. Same stuff inside wall board and that cement is made from.

@IMightBeIris 2 жыл бұрын

Those are fuse plugs. In an event of a fire, those are supposed to melt and safely release the burning gas in an emergency.

@hugoedelarosa 10 ай бұрын

"In case of an emergency (such as a significant rise in temperature), I have to release the gas I store." - Said the DOT-8 or DOT-8AL cylinder.

@gerardcaccioppo1958 2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the information I have one of those tanks I got the top off you're right that stuff is solid but I'm chipping away at it you got to be careful cuz I use the grinder on my after the tank was empty but that stuff there still goes on fire but I put it out with water so I'm hoping if I let it sit like that for a few days I just put that tank in half longways on both sides and get that stuff out

@sgvpotter 4 жыл бұрын

i think you hurt that spiders feelings when you said nothing was in there :(

@ChemEDan 2 жыл бұрын

The spider is much happier now because he's famous on the **web**

@user-ol5rj8qn9o 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. I was wondering why this thing is so heavy. I picked up a size M acetylene tank/turbo torch at an estate sale with 2/3 fill. This small tank must weigh 30 lbs or more, I thought is was just the weight of the liquid but now I know it's full of heavy "stuff".

@domingomurodiaz9232 Жыл бұрын

Gracias por tu vídeo me sirvió mucho saber cómo es de adentro ,,,saludos desde h Matamoros Tamaulipas México 23 April 2023

@meelas010 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that mate.

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

your welcome

@peterectasy2957 5 жыл бұрын

@@VooDooTennessee you are really good man. I very appreciate your work, its very educative and young people can easily learn something what is hidden to eyes

@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely loved this video because I have wondered what was in an acetylene tank for half my life and I'm 74~!! I weekend weld and really enjoy it and have been told many times what was there but never got to see it and some of the guys that told me didn't know what they were talking about. I could listen to you say ANT CETILENE all day~! Chalk me up on the Subscriber Board & looking forward to more education. P>S> don't trip on that ball peen hammer behind you on the floor.

@elijahfranklin6074 2 жыл бұрын

We used to fill balloons with oxygen\acetylene mix and throw them on the burn barrel when someone was standing by it. The sound is incredible. Literally louder than a 12 ga. 🙃

@blythkd9017 2 жыл бұрын

Balloons? I used to work with some guys that filled trash bags, lawn size bags. They shook pictures off the walls of one guy's house probably over 50 yards away.

@elijahfranklin6074 2 жыл бұрын

@@blythkd9017 how did he ignite it? Roman candle?

@markwhitnell5752 2 жыл бұрын

Using MC acetylene tank for propane I use a small plumber size oxy/acet tank set for doing refrigeration sliver solder, etc. It is 40 miles to my gas supplier...way to far just to exchange a bottle of gas for $14. so what did I do? I removed the acet valve, added HCl to dissolve the gyp, rinsed with water, dried with air and heat gun, replaced valve with bbq cylinder valve, filled the 12cf acet tank(now R-290) with propane from my 5gal tank at home..also use a high pressure refill hose with cga540 fitting to refill my oxy small tank from a large oxy tank.

@thedavesofourlives1 4 жыл бұрын

Ancetylene?

@SovereignTroll Жыл бұрын

What is the concensus now? 1/7 or 1/10 in hourly withdraw rate to prevent detonation danger?

@chuck0683 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@access_all_areas 3 жыл бұрын

Press out the porous medium. It will slide out in a solid chunk.

@lesackerman9271 3 жыл бұрын

Newer tanks use gypsum, alot of older tanks used asbestos I have a few old asbestos filler tanks from the 40s, that's another reason you wouldn't want to cut into them but I'd be more worried about the acetylene more than the asbestos.

@michaelschade3381 6 жыл бұрын

An-cetylene. Never heard of it.

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

Trolling KZfaq videos on a Saturday night, pretty sad.

@michaelschade3381 6 жыл бұрын

Voo Doo Tennessee Not trolling. Its factual. You're saying it wrong. Take the advice or leave it.

@joshmiller1928 6 жыл бұрын

Could that be a ballast for the tank? Like what's in a weeble wabble? A weight to help from tipping easily?

@kentuckytrapper780 2 жыл бұрын

The only way I could get that stuff out was cut both ends and press it out, my tank was in my burn pit for months it won't burn out..

@fluffymittens24 7 ай бұрын

I tried exchanging my b tank, older one, they shook it and there was a slight rattle they said no good. They didn't exchange it. Do they go bad?

@PrestonHelton 6 жыл бұрын

He keeps saying an-cetylene. Too funny.

@r6u356une56ney 6 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one that noticed.

@tonyr6751 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Why the hell is he doing that?

@JustinLodes 5 жыл бұрын

Tony R um, because he never learned how to pronounce it properly?

@BrianDaleNeeley 6 жыл бұрын

I had heard once that the material in the tank was asbestos. Is that (or was it ever) the case? And is it always a solid foam matrix? I thought they used a material that was more like a fiberglass insulation (something packed in, not cast in place).

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

I don't know what they use now, but it is my understanding, no proof just what I was told, that it is no longer and hasn't been asbestos for a while.

@RandomsFandom 6 жыл бұрын

They still use, and never stopped using asbestos, they just stopped talking about it

@themonkeydrunken 5 жыл бұрын

@@RandomsFandom Do you have a source for that? Asking to settle an argument over here :)

@sparkey4293 Жыл бұрын

U schooled me on those tanks .

@HavanaWoody 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this so i don't have to.

@svampae 3 жыл бұрын

This is what i was looking for thanks. But what is the material inside?

@VooDooTennessee 3 жыл бұрын

Gypsum or on older tanks asbestos, don't cut older tanks.

@dalelundgren9725 5 жыл бұрын

An easy way to know if it is an acetylene tank is to just tap the side of the cylinder if there is a ringing sound it is not acetylene. If it doesn't ring and sounds dead it is acetylene.

@m1358 4 жыл бұрын

Acetylene tanks are filled with a porous mass, 30 years ago was a asbestos base and before that they used wood ,horse hair an other materials in the early 1900s

@davidmeier1811 6 жыл бұрын

Acetylene is very unstable as a liquid so it is "dissolved" and it needs to be absorbed in some material to make it stable (It can ignite on it's own). That is another reason you don't want to exceed about 8 psi on the flow because it can ignite due to friction in the line. 40 years ago someone told me they had balsa wood in them but I am not sure. In any case they are not empty inside.

@jibblesq 4 жыл бұрын

We run it at 13 psi and it's fine.

@cherylm2C6671 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment.

@bronsonmath 3 жыл бұрын

Cool

@eviltwinx 6 жыл бұрын

How about that.

@marynollaig4124 3 жыл бұрын

The acetylene in a new bought cylinder can be at 250 (pounds per Sq inch), When in the cylinder it is dissolved in acetone making it stable. When the gas is made, it is at atmospheric pressure. How is it increased to 250 PSI between the acetylene source and the cylinder value. . . At some stage along the pipe it mist be at above 250 PSI for it to flow into the cylinder, Why does it not explode?

@tomoliver8498 2 жыл бұрын

Because it is absorbed in acetone it is stable.

@marynollaig4124 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomoliver8498 I know, but how it the new make acetylene moved from origin to the bottle. The cylinder is already filled with acetone. There has to be a pipe with no acetone. The pressure has to be greater than in the bottle to move it in. Why does the gas not explode en route?

@esquad5406 3 жыл бұрын

We use them for range targets. when they are full of holes and and all the clay is shot out. Scrapyard.

@saginaw60 Ай бұрын

I have a tank of Fartrogen. Made it myself!

@mustyguts 3 жыл бұрын

Where do you buy Ancetylene? Is that a special version of Acetylene?

@MurkyWaters677 3 жыл бұрын

Go to a welding shop. The one I go to supplies me with Acetylene.

@tomhiggins4969 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I laughed at this too

@lucifchristo 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that stuff inside is gypsum

@Anotherdaynparadise 6 жыл бұрын

Ancetylene tanks?

@erikev 10 ай бұрын

I hear emsettline here :)

@dogoargento3502 9 ай бұрын

I’m thinking a 5/8 carbide tipped bit in a high powered (900W and above) hammer drill, could bring that sucker into submission. If that don’t do the trick, then we brake the fancy heavy artillery out. Anyone knows what that would be? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣

@n5xmt 2 жыл бұрын

There is only one n in acetylene. And it's not after the A

@tonywalker8030 6 жыл бұрын

Fargoffx are you getting this?

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

You were on a role last night, I don't understand this comment either.

@tonywalker8030 6 жыл бұрын

Voo Doo Tennessee maybe I reading to much in this. I haven't been the same since the incident.

@loul7239 6 жыл бұрын

There was something in that CO2 tank. It was a small colony of spiders for sure!

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

LOL they don't count!

@SittingDuc 5 жыл бұрын

Sure they count! To eight. ;)

@ottoolsen9560 4 жыл бұрын

well cutting or tortch buring theese tanks is a bad idea, it contains not onley the acetylene (eaven it they are empty they often has some acetylene), but they also contains acetone, and the acetone is always there, eaven when its empty of acetylene, and both acetone and acetylene are flamable and can make an explosion, the acetone is for stabelice the gas, this is why the tanks must be elevatet to a minimum of 30 degree before use

@r6u356une56ney 6 жыл бұрын

AH SETTLE EEN not AN SETTLE EEN - there is no "N" in the first syllable. I just grates at my head everytime he says it.

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

You poor poor man, I am so sorry all you have to do on new years day is to troll youtube. Good luck to you, I need to get back to my family.

@joshmellon390 4 жыл бұрын

ANcetylene? But talks about people in the trade not knowing something... hmm..

@jamesb.9155 3 жыл бұрын

One guy says there is Asbestos in Acetylene tanks.

@frederickchantal4296 3 жыл бұрын

my welding teacher told me it was acetone

@andrewthompsonuk1 6 жыл бұрын

Why is it a very bad idea to lay Acetylene tanks on their side?

@Jonny-ub9mw 6 жыл бұрын

Andrew Thompson There's acetone in the cylinders which leaks out and attacks the shut off valve leaving a weak spot for the gas to attack.

@charlesthomas7970 5 жыл бұрын

Because you draw out the acetone. Gas equipment can't handle liquids, it destroys all of the parts not made of metal. It's also dangerous for a number of reasons, one being vapor space.

@capitalcityperformance4948 3 жыл бұрын

acetylene does not have an n

@credit__devin 2 жыл бұрын

Please always keep your tanks chained or properly locked up when the valve cap is not on the bottle

@VooDooTennessee 2 жыл бұрын

uncapped tanks are secured in my shop

@credit__devin 2 жыл бұрын

@@VooDooTennessee fair enough but it never hurts to be extra safe

@dansw0rkshop 9 ай бұрын

Now I know to leave these ancetylene tanks at the scrap yard, and not bother trying to use them for anything.

@ericlees7518 4 жыл бұрын

KAPOC THATS WHATS INSIDE THEM !!!!!!!!!!!! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

@bigcheese781 6 жыл бұрын

Still don't know what's in an acetylene tank... =O

@VooDooTennessee 6 жыл бұрын

but you know what it looks like

@vapeking8882 5 жыл бұрын

depends on how old it is newer is Gypsum older is asbestos lol i hope his was newer

@YZFoFittie Жыл бұрын

There is only one, "N" in acetylene...lol

@janjanboquia6738 Жыл бұрын

isnt that asbestos ?

@VooDooTennessee Жыл бұрын

Gypsom, even on the old tanks with asbestos it is in two isolated areas at the top and bottom.

@layt6342 4 ай бұрын

Ooo ooo mapp gas

@layt6342 4 ай бұрын

Nvm. Think they have their own tank

@sparXKuijper Жыл бұрын

Why do you pronounce it aNcetylene ?

@VooDooTennessee Жыл бұрын

Just how I do.

@dogoargento3502 9 ай бұрын

I think he’s saying “uncytelene”. Because is volatile? 🤷🏻‍♂️

@willbill7250 2 жыл бұрын

...helium

@edwardcold7431 2 жыл бұрын

That is asbestos in there sir

@VooDooTennessee 2 жыл бұрын

nope gypsum

@Z4Zander 2 жыл бұрын

In older tanks it is.

@LMSILVIA 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder how many had to die to discover how to store acetylene in a tank under pressure. Also i get why acetylene runs out so fast, the tank is full of stuff LoL it feels like a bit of a scam....

@glenbjack 6 жыл бұрын

not a good plan buuuuuut a great joke

@krodkrod8132 2 жыл бұрын

You keep saying Ancetylene

@The-Real-Term 4 жыл бұрын

The irony of you trying to shame folks for not knowing how a acetylene cylinder works on the inside compared to a hollow steel/aluminum for gases such a propane, UHP, oxidizer and inert gases. Etc. etc. And you can’t even pronounce acetylene properly. p.s The mysterious material inside is nothing more just ordinary firebrick, acetylene gas is dissolved in acetone and the firebrick is their to keep it mixed and remain in liquid form. I mean no disrespect it’s just I hate when one is criticizing and wrong themselves whilst doing so. Cheers!

@VooDooTennessee 4 жыл бұрын

You should really make a video on it.

@johnpanter Жыл бұрын

Why do most Americans seem to pronounce these words incorrectly? Drives me mad. ANCETYLENE??? ALUMINUM???

@VooDooTennessee Жыл бұрын

Always nice to live rent free in some limeys head!

@dogoargento3502 9 ай бұрын

You gotta understand the lingo varies among tribes. 😅

@magmacoffee 3 ай бұрын

Asbestos

@honolulu1476 5 жыл бұрын

White stuff is asbestos :)

@jean2485 3 жыл бұрын

Why do you KEEEEP on saying aNcetylene instead of Acetylene? If you're going to make a video where you're going to use the word acetylene fifty times, it would be polite to first learn how to pronounce it......

@JuryDutySummons 2 ай бұрын

Skip to 5:10 to skip all the babbling.

@TheLostAdventuress 5 жыл бұрын

You cant even say it right

@VooDooTennessee 5 жыл бұрын

When writing or typing the contraction of cannot an apostrophe is required. Oh, and punctuation is important. But yes I have added a "n" to acetylene since I was a kid, great feedback!

@TheLostAdventuress 5 жыл бұрын

@@VooDooTennessee everyone is clowning you