Actually Installing Windows on a Nintendo DS! (1.0 to 3.0 Upgrade Saga Attempt)

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Ever think you'd see Windows running on a Nintendo DS? Well, here it is. Thanks to a homebrew application called DSx86, it's possible to run Windows along with a good amount of DOS games on the DS or DSi!
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@Wavy667_ 2 жыл бұрын

The developer of DSx86 was developing a 3DS port conveniently called 3DSx86, but it seems they never finished/released it. Quite unfortunate really, as the DS version was really great and would've benefited a lot from the extra power from the 3DS.

@quarterofdisorder 2 жыл бұрын

Ah man that sucks

@Roebloz 2 жыл бұрын

Oh hello Wavy.

@Wavy667_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@Roebloz Hello Roebloz :p

@txe1nd 2 жыл бұрын

Wow got the at the top comments I’m 17 like

@Roebloz 2 жыл бұрын

@@Wavy667_ Sup pal

@markusTegelane 2 жыл бұрын

wait, this is possible? lesson learned: never underestimate homebrew developers

@tf_d 2 жыл бұрын

;)

@albertthedankalt9546 2 жыл бұрын

And Nintendo is still trying to kill them

@tf_d 2 жыл бұрын

@@albertthedankalt9546 Nintendo's Lawyers are the debil

@HeadmostCantaloupe 2 жыл бұрын

agree

@ZimVerse 2 жыл бұрын

@@tf_d did you mean "Nintendo's Lawyers are the devil"?

@DaVince21 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I had the SuperCard DSTwo. It was super interesting because it basically houses an extra CPU on the card itself that's more powerful than the DS hardware. It allowed me to play Commander Keen on the DS of all things! There were some really neat emulators for it as well.

@maxfax1012 2 жыл бұрын

enchanting table language

@DaVince21 2 жыл бұрын

@@maxfax1012 Standard Galactic Alphabet

@TtEL 2 жыл бұрын

If you *HAD* one. What happened to it?

@DaVince21 2 жыл бұрын

@@TtEL Unfortunately, it broke... Besides being a cool piece of hardware it wasn't manufactured very well, so the entire top half of the cartridge came off at some point.

@Stormy2142 2 жыл бұрын

still have mine!

@MaskedGEEK 2 жыл бұрын

23:35 - Michael just invented Dark Mode for Windows 30 years before it became an official feature.

@markusTegelane 2 жыл бұрын

no he didn't

@atonysomething 2 жыл бұрын

@@markusTegelane ...It was a joke

@MaskedGEEK 2 жыл бұрын

@@markusTegelane 🤦‍♂️

@688Shadow 2 жыл бұрын

@@markusTegelane r/whoosh

@pessoaanonima6345 2 жыл бұрын

It was a hidden feature until windows 8, when they removed classic theme. If you use that theme on windows 7 it will be way more consistent than on windows 10.

@mahmoud9999 2 жыл бұрын

Omg ive never thought that it is possible to run a real version of windows on a ds console ,very nice video michael

@NatetheNintendofan 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJ0mmy shut up Self Advertiser

@yes7528 2 жыл бұрын

@@NatetheNintendofan Yeah, southern advertisers are really rude these days.

@endymallorn 2 жыл бұрын

Why not? Of course it’s ARM/THUMB architecture, but there have been ARM to x86 interpretation setups for years. The biggest issue with the DS is the lack of a keyboard, but that’s why you wrap it in a file that includes a touchscreen keyboard, like with early touch monitors in the 80s & 90s.

@half-dusted 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJ0mmy we aren't stupid. I have a plugin where I can see people's uploads without going on their channel.

@iwinrar5207 2 жыл бұрын

@@endymallorn that and emulation on something as under powered as the DS. So the fact you can do that and ahve a keyboard. Still an impressive feat. More so 3.0 then 1.0

@Sky.Dog757 2 жыл бұрын

Now this brings back nostalgia! I remember owning both of these DS’s as well as the LIte edition keep up the fantastic work MJD!

@GlitchyYT65 2 жыл бұрын

yep

@JonathanMendez4820 2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@Sky.Dog757 2 жыл бұрын

@@JonathanMendez4820 🙌

@amethystdene 2 жыл бұрын

"owning one" "as well as the Lite" uh? explain me please

@Sky.Dog757 2 жыл бұрын

@@amethystdene I’ve owned both models in the past the original DS and the DS Lite used to play Pokémon pearl and diamond nonstop on it

@wido1085 2 жыл бұрын

One thing you could have tried was using SUBST to map the folder with your installation files to a drive letter (A in this case). SUBST has been around since MSDOS 3.1 I believe and essentially allows you to map any folder to a drive letter. It even still works in modern Windows. :)

@jtfoog5220 2 жыл бұрын

Sus boot

@aetimes2 2 жыл бұрын

@@jtfoog5220 Sub soot

@linux_fox 2 жыл бұрын

Now I have the sudden urge to do this, but with every drive letter.

@SouseMouse 2 жыл бұрын

I used subst in Windows 95 to hide my files from my parents. Win+R for the run dialog. Run "cmd" for a terminal, then type "mkdir secret" and hold Alt while typing 0255 on the numpad before pressing enter. If you list directories with "dir" you'll see "secret" listed, but "cd secret" will say it doesn't exist. In the Windows file Explorer you'll see "secret_", but again be unable to open it. In the terminal you can "cd secret" if you add the Alt+0255, but that's inconvenient and doesn't let you open stuff in Windows programs. That's where subst came in: "subst s: secret"Alt+0255. Now Windows has a drive S: with your stuff. You can hide it again, but don't have to remember to because subst resets on reboot.

@HappyBeezerStudios 2 жыл бұрын

I use subst to mount folders with a path >260 characters. oh and also to have my sync folder as drive

@_ace55 2 жыл бұрын

I didnt even see the video but I love this type of stuff, like emulating software on a device I couldnt think could do that :D Thanks for making these videos!

@yaboijuanito1460 2 жыл бұрын

Same cuz it looks really intresting

@HeidenLam 2 жыл бұрын

@SleepyAdam 2 жыл бұрын

This takes me back. I was such a nerdy kid. Loved messing around with DSx86. Could never get Windows working tho. This is some childhood wish fulfillment.

@A2r2r 2 жыл бұрын

fancy seeing you here

@jargon343 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love these 30 minute videos! Perfect for watching when I have nothing to do

@tomyyoung2624 2 жыл бұрын

Yes review is available for

@OfficialFortCraft 6 ай бұрын

chilli

@BANJO500 2 жыл бұрын

I remember using this app to play Alone in the dark on my DS lite. I was an amazing experience! BTW I have that Pokémon with the keyboard, but it doesn't have the GBA slot accessory, the BT receiver is in the cartridge itself.

@TNTMusic5757 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@MagnumForce51 2 жыл бұрын

It's too bad no one has really tried getting Windows CE to run on DS. That version of Windows was meant to run on ARM based platforms I think or at least non x86 stuff like the DS. No idea what the boot process/driver situation would be for an OS like that though. Only time I ever personally interacted with Windows CE was with the inventory scanner tool I used when I worked in the back at Wal-Mart back in 2013 or so and those things had Windows CE on them. CE is weird though and seems to be customized for almost every platform one finds it on. Not to mention the apps you can run on it would be super limited. Definitely can't run normal x86 windows stuff in Windows CE. :P

@txe1nd 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that’s cool

@txe1nd 2 жыл бұрын

2 like ohso get these to the top comment to

@4444aa 2 жыл бұрын

4:56 I like the name of the SD card. Also I am curious how it would run on DSi using twilight menu + -bootstrap- , might try because I don't have a flash card. (Edit: It works fine on my Unlaunch DSi. Also I forgot it was homebrew and so it does not use bootstrap.)

@CityAnimate 2 жыл бұрын

To those who don't get the joke, this is the video id for Never gonna give you up

@swisstech5734 2 жыл бұрын

Good Question 😬

@epoggg3672 2 жыл бұрын

It would not run under twilightm menu+bootstrap as it cannot get other files on an sd card, so you have to run it under unlaunch.

@jspantonio8807 Жыл бұрын

Dsi and 3ds throttle the cpu to norml ds clock speeds when running a ds game to prevent issues and errors

@Zakkious Жыл бұрын

@@jspantonio8807 Nowadays you can run any game with the increased clock speed and ram using TWLoader

@willm5032 2 жыл бұрын

There's something delightfully pointless about using a handheld capable of running 3d games to emulate a decades old OS to play solitaire. Love it!

@seronymus Жыл бұрын

It's not pointless.

@willm5032 Жыл бұрын

@@seronymus How so?

@minignoux4566 11 ай бұрын

@@willm5032you're still running windows and dos, meaning productivity apps are available to you it's an extremely dumb way to make a word document, but a way nonetheless also the hundreeds of dos exclusive games that runs on 286s

@sirlukas2 2 жыл бұрын

That's so amazing Michael! Well done!

@Wii505 2 жыл бұрын

Actually the physical keyboard for the DS didn't have an adapter that hooked up to the GBA Slot. The Pokemon cartridge had the adapter built into it and other DS cartridge had extra tech them

@TtEL 2 жыл бұрын

That would mean you could still use the keyboard for the game on your 3DS?

@Wii505 2 жыл бұрын

@@TtEL Yes

@jspantonio8807 Жыл бұрын

There was a bluetooth one too i think

@Pacca64 2 жыл бұрын

I did this! used to run the old Oregon trail game on my DS, was a lot of fun

@fnjesusfreak 2 жыл бұрын

I should see whether that works on PomDS.

@whtiequillBj 2 жыл бұрын

There is one other issue with using the physical keyboard provided in Japan and Europe. That is you would need to program in or find a way to get firmware support in DSx86.

@dreammfyre 2 жыл бұрын

The resolution is always a problem when running emulators on a DS. It’s too low res even for NES emulation. Maybe you should try this on a 3DS instead? That screen is 320x240 and perfect for DOS stuff at least.

@titaniumex2556 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine running Windows NT 5 Beta 2 on a 3DS and a build of Windows Longhorn that has the Slate theme on a wii u😂

@NoahClevinger 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to many more videos from you this year!

@Arthur-bk9wn 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting and fun as always, great!

@libertyernie 2 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't be an original model Nintendo DS without that trademark broken hinge!

@amethystdene 2 жыл бұрын

Broken Hinge©®

@fnjesusfreak 2 жыл бұрын

Happens to the Lite too.

@MthaMenMon 2 жыл бұрын

My cousin's DS lite got that and eventually the top screen flex cable broke. Carefull with that hinge lol

@NotAGamer685 2 жыл бұрын

I just got the OG phat ds in the mail today. Looking for a cheap r4 in the US and an EZ flash omega definitive edition. The ultimate setup

@nolongergabe Жыл бұрын

just wait until Totally Broken Screen™

@TweeterMan287 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I needed! Program Manager on my DS!

@idoblenderstuffs Жыл бұрын

oh wait, britain actually got the DS keyboard aswell!! it was a normal bluetooth keyboard, but it came with a pokemon typing game that had a bluetooth chip inside the cartidge. i remember seeing it in the shop years ago.

@DaEisi95 Жыл бұрын

5:46 funny to see how your free disk space melts slowly away :D nice vid btw!

@musicalplayzyt 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, awesome video Michael!

@mysfiring 2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on 250K, Michael! :D

@libby8477 2 жыл бұрын

5:04 if you look at the title of the finder window, the r4 card is named the never gonna give you up link digits

@RealEpikCartfrenYT 2 жыл бұрын

people always find more creative and indirect ways to rickroll us

@amethystdene 2 жыл бұрын

I'm still thinking why's he using mac os

@attestedatom6752 2 жыл бұрын

@@amethystdene because it's epic

@atonysomething 2 жыл бұрын

@@amethystdene his new macbook, which he stated at the start of the video

@amethystdene 2 жыл бұрын

@@atonysomething thanks, I didn't see it because it was small

@MoonSarito 2 жыл бұрын

This is just amazing and insane at the same time, I would love to see you trying to install Windows on other consoles like the 3DS and PSP or Wii U. There's also a Windows ''clone'' made for the Nintendo 8 Bit similar to the Windows XP video on the Nintendo DS you made before that would be really cool to check out.

@blainepalmerza 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, Michael!

@MichaelMJD 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@NatetheNintendofan 2 жыл бұрын

I get so excited when I see a new mjd video

@brain_tweaker5708 2 жыл бұрын

I use Windows 3.1 on my Nintendo DS's (Phat DS, DS Lite, iQue DS Lite, DSi) to play Mario's Game Gallery. I installed it back in 2018. It works pretty well. I have always loved the Nintendo DS Family of Systems. I'm very active in the Nintendo DS Hacking scene. Be it Hardware Modifications, ROM Hacking, or flashcarts. Oh boy, do i own many Nintendo DS flashcarts. I am very happy to see you doing more with the Nintendo DS Family of Systems!

@tsuikagura 2 жыл бұрын

Loved every moment of this... I'll need to try it... on my DSi XL :D

@STICKOMEDIA 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually amazing

@assiahkeni2826 2 жыл бұрын

Happy 250K!

@le9038 2 жыл бұрын

very nice video on installing windows 2.0 to 3.0 on the Nintendo DS! now, *let's see you install 95 next...*

@FlameTiger-cn2vw 2 жыл бұрын

250k congrats MJD

@MichaelMJD 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@amy9074 2 жыл бұрын

i love your vids and keep up the good work

@dinofriends650 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new MBP

@Gabriel.9009 2 жыл бұрын

Good video mjd!

@LelandHasGames 2 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this.

@PrKo 2 жыл бұрын

Another great vid from the legend himself

@sprx5506 2 жыл бұрын

WAY more impressive than my calculator idea, well done! :D

@tassaron 2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah, love the Linode sponsorship. I want every channel I watch to be sponsored by them lol

@rodhester2166 2 жыл бұрын

another great video, thanks for sharing.. have a great weekend..

@blu9821 2 жыл бұрын

Linode promotion again? Been using with a previous vid, and it runs flawless!

@xxmichibxx 2 жыл бұрын

I remember getting Windows 3.11 for workgroups working on the DS years ago. I tried it forever until it worked. Good times.

@surfer4185 2 жыл бұрын

Nice wallpaper on your new Mac!

@mordekay2120 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! That's amazing!

@Sierraffinity 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the SUBST DOS command? It allows you to set a drive letter that maps to a path. I'm not sure if 4DOS comes with it but you might be able to use one from another DOS?

@alexandersteele4212 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video lol. How's the macos transition cus you've used windows since the beginning

@MichaelMJD 2 жыл бұрын

I'm actually not switching completely, my main desktop computer is still Windows-based. Now I get the best of both worlds!

@alexandersteele4212 2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelMJD awesome i hope you enjoy your experience with macos :)

@muhamarifh2362 2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelMJD Today's MacBooks or Apple Products Are Already Using the M1 or M1 Pro/MAX Chipset (So if you want to install a virtual machine, maybe you can, but now the MacBook is ARM Based, so it's difficult to find an OS that supports ARM-based) Unless Intel-Based it can only be

@luciascarlet 2 жыл бұрын

@@muhamarifh2362 You can run Windows 11 ARM in Parallels on M1 Macs and it actually performs quite well. I use it sometimes when I need Windows for something quick but can't be bothered to use another computer.

@muhamarifh2362 2 жыл бұрын

@@luciascarlet Yes That's What I Mean

@Drag0nmaster 2 жыл бұрын

I remember playing on the wii, the homebrew music jammed so hard, and i had so many games i played ion there that wasn't made for the wii

@moritz1628 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@KlingonCaptain 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this video for about four years...

@Althangout 2 жыл бұрын

This is pretty cool. I also got win98 running on my new 2ds xl

@Sorro Жыл бұрын

12:21 as someone who has that game, i can say that there was no adapter for the gba slot. The keyboard connected to the ds by normal wireless connection in-game, with no extra adapters

@HoLDoN4Sec 2 жыл бұрын

Michael i think if you're planning on making more DS content you should get a DSI XL/DSI LL, these cost just 5-7$ and have a much bigger display that can help you with cam recording (and make stuff like this more usable on the DS)

@britishchick09 2 жыл бұрын

This is so cool! :D

@gottteem429 2 жыл бұрын

I love these videos

@lotharpeters5985 2 жыл бұрын

an exellent video Btw: until today, you are the ONLY american, which i am listening to, who talk in a way, that every foreighner can understand you! Surtenley with amercian accent - of course! - but: clear, not to quick - Just, in a way, that i DON'T go away after less than a minute. BRAVO - thank you for your exellent video and for your "foreighner-understanable-voice"

@gtvs3737 2 жыл бұрын

This is honestly important, has lots of possibility for enterprise users of Nintendo ds

@awii.neocities 2 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome, i also think theres something similar for the 3ds, with windows 95 and 98 support

@near5148 2 жыл бұрын

Another good video

@d3adman404 2 жыл бұрын

This timelapse song is amazing

@Sheepish16 Жыл бұрын

i love your folder name at 4:37

@-GameHacKeR- 2 жыл бұрын

16:15 well 1.0 real mode was tested as playable earlier in the video, I wonder if there is a setting in the ini file that would help you get 1.0 installed EDIT: 17:18 never mind that's how they did it probably XD

@rufust33333333333333 Жыл бұрын

Looks like a blast 🎉

@woode77able 2 жыл бұрын

It's so weird to see that DS and DS Lite. They're the same colors I had and are broken in the same spots too. I have to imagine that a lot of DSes broke on that one hinge though

@donsolos 2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Hinges breaking is one of the DS biggest problems

@gatto_furry 5 ай бұрын

6:22 hah! I love the rickroll url sd card name!

@Biaanca5036 2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it make more sense to use a MIPS version of windows and ARMulate it, or is it really that much easier to just crudely emulate the x86 versions?

@Liamoldchannel Жыл бұрын

I think you have to extract the 5 images to the root of the card. Copy the files on the card to a folder on your computer so you can get rid of the setup files when you’re done. Keep the R4 kernel, DSx86, and the DSx86 components available on the card and then extract the 5 images. If it really requires drive A then possibly use a different emulator like PCem to do the install and use OSFMount to mount the hdd file.

@DanielLopez-up6os 2 жыл бұрын

Heck yeah! Played Duke Nukem 2 SO MUCH on my DS with DSx86, I once even managed to install windows 1.0 under DSx86 any newer and it didn't work. I always wanted a SuperCard DSTwo but sadly the flashcart was never sold here.

@Storster 2 жыл бұрын

ooo I may have to try this on the DS I recently got

@rhysholdaway 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a DSTWO Supercard. It's amazing! I use it to play old DOS games, it's good for games like Warcraft.

@hri7566 2 жыл бұрын

i'm so happy to see linode sponsors

@dipflipdf 2 жыл бұрын

actually the physical keyboard for the ds is a bluetooth keyboard, like you can connect it to your phone and stuff. since the ds dosent have bluetooh, the cartridge the keyboard was used for had a special bluetooth chip built in. unless your flash cartridge has one of those chips, and somehow the software you used to boot windows supports it, then youre out of luck for a physical keyboard

@ChristianFS1 Жыл бұрын

Great idea! Seeing as the DSi has more powerful internals than the regular DS and DS Lite (more ram and faster clock speed), could it possibly run Windows 95?

@OkraPlutonium 2 жыл бұрын

Oh gahd, I'm so glad I subbed today.

@DemDevDJY 2 жыл бұрын

yay! a new video!

@hongkongcantonese501 2 жыл бұрын

Great trip through memory lane.

@janluofficial 2 жыл бұрын

its great how far technoligy has come

@NALTOdeluxe 2 жыл бұрын

Dang I gotta go get my booster shot. Will watch when I get back, This should be fun!

@Moon-ge8mc 2 жыл бұрын

nobody asked 🤡

@Mizai 2 жыл бұрын

@@Moon-ge8mc nobody asked

@SurmenianSoldier 2 жыл бұрын

@@Moon-ge8mc Nobody asked for your reply, nobody asked for this reply too.

@Fromagreatheight 2 жыл бұрын

This is sick

@MegaManNeo 2 жыл бұрын

One of the things I always wanted a DS flashcart is exactly this.

@pepzi_ 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe you could use SUBST (if that was available) to create a virtual A: from a directory on the card for the Windows 1.0 install?

@itskdog 2 жыл бұрын

It took me 9 minutes to notice the SD Card's name. Good job.

@terminaldup4775 Жыл бұрын

This is extremely impressive

@phreapersoonlijk 2 жыл бұрын

So close to 250K !

@canlelola 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhhhh, Learn With Pokémon: Typing Adventure, was also released in the EU and Australia.

@PurpleMaleFroslass 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Pokemon Typing bundle. The Bluetooth chip is actually in the DS cart itself. I'm also guessing this might have caused some problems with FCC clearance and that's why we didn't get it in the states.

@federicopacei8072 2 жыл бұрын

This is insane 😂 the homebrew community is one of the best thing to happen to humankind

@SOTP. Жыл бұрын

Cant you use subst for windows 1? Like you go in the win 1 directory and type subst A: . to make the a drive a "shortcut" to that folder, so it reads stuff proprely?

@garchamp9844 2 жыл бұрын

The low battery LED is making my skin crawl 😬 Must… Charge…! Nice video though. My DS got brittle and fell apart in my hands a few years back, but I might just get another just to mess around with it. They are such versatile little machines!

@TheElectroclassic 2 жыл бұрын

Michael WHYYYYYYYYY LMAO, this is a train wreck, and I love it.

@computerkid1416 Жыл бұрын

For 1.01, you probably could have used the "subst" command to map the install files as the A drive.

@mocthezuma 2 жыл бұрын

Is the "subst" command not implemented in dsx86/4dos? It was a great command for substituting a drive with a path in MS DOS. I used it a lot when I had installation files on my hard drive that would only install from A: It's a really simple command to use. In your case it would be: subst a: c:\data\dsx86\win101 Then just type a: and then setup and you should be good to go.