It's like he must have confused you with someone else the way he is debating in just the first few minutes and that opening statement, just wow 🤦🏻

Green is the most weaselly debater. His tactic is consistent: steamroll the opponent with multiple arguments unrelated to the topic of the debate, interrupt any rebuttal with new arguments, accuse the opponent of gaslighting or bad faith or disingenuity, and dismiss the opponent's rebuttals as irrelevant despite being the one that brought them up. At no point does he demonstrate how Jesus is a myth, and at every turn he's trying to argue that Jesus is an elaborate jewish psyop to spiritually dominate the gentiles. He argues in all directions and acts like he won after occupying the majority of the debate floor.

As a Jew who converted to Orthodoxy, Adam thinking that Jews take serious pride in Christianity and in Islam is hilarious. They don't. Also, "Hey guys we're gonna take over the world, you'll thank me in 2000 years from now I promise, after all the pogroms and stuff"

Jeem was a great example of debating without being emotional or impatient, and not being an effeminate punching bag either. Solid alpha debating behavior in my opinion.

I was expecting Adam to actually have some kind of genuine argumention, but he just jumps to the next topic as soon as he doesn't have a response to a statement. He constantly glosses over points and tries to steer the conversation to a point he thinks he has a "Gotcha" on Jeem. But when Jeem has a genuine response that Adam can't respond to, he just zips over to something else, or just makes fun of Christian teaching or restates something he's said.

Rabbi Greenberg undefeated. *Praise our Goyshiach!*

Remember when considering a debate against Green: "It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person."

The Js got the gentiles to worship an imaginary figure that contradicted what Js believed and which rendered Judaism obsolete in order to get the gentiles to worship the J-ish deity. It makes sense to Adam

bro thank you for uploading, i was just on twitter crying about it being deleted

20 mins in and i see why Dyer wont debate Green. All over the place.

He thinks Winning a debate is talking more, making bold assertions, claiming to be gaslit, straw Manning, And interrupting Around 31 minutes in; I cannot believe this guy claimed he was being gaslit lmfao Jeem Was incredibly patient

I am not even sure what Adam's central point was, he kept going down different lines of questioning when Jeem could push back on a point.

Jeem asks Adam "what is so wrong with christianity compared to the romans and greeks?" and dude straight up says "they were seeking domination over all others" like if the romans and greeks didn´t do that haha.

Props to sitting through this debate while the guy just pontificates and bases his whole argument on false suppositions while claiming to refute people who supposedly believe in bible based on premises with no argument. Also the Jesuit heresy of futurism was immediately condemned by the church so your incorrect to say its a "catholic" heresy. Also, you know that prior to the Renaissance the medieval catholic theologians could care less about Plato, and it wasn't until the material spread from the orthodox Byzantine Empire after the fall of Constantinople that they even became popular in the west, they may have used basic logic for their arguments, but they did not support Platonism or his ideas in any way, in fact that was more popular in the east and Middle East before. They relied on scholasticism but that was from Aristotle who had a completely different worldview to Plato, and whether anyone wants to admit it or not anyone who studies anything is kind of relying on scholastic principles, including people who studied the scriptures to form doctrines such as the trinity etc. so its hypocrisy to say that was the whole problem when we've had that kind of thinking since the begin to even discern basic doctrines.

"GRRRRRR WHY DO YOU STILL BELIEVE IN JESUS???"

This debate looks like it was a TOTAL waste of Jeem's time! Adam Green shouldn't have been allowed to get on the debate stage with Jeem. This was a slaughter. Watching Adam TRYING to debate Jeem is like watching a second-grader who just learned basic arithmetic, trying to debate an astrophysicist over mathematical issues.

Great debate glad you finally uploaded it

Adam Green must've learn how to debate from online Muslims.

Would Adam Green debate Sam Shamoun? I think Sam would prevent Green from using. his standard "cute tricks".

2:22:17 Egyptians were known for their propaganda. They never wrote any defeats in their historical records and we know that because of other competing civilizations during that time and in their records.

Jeem got his ass too on the "the texts about Jesus are not worthy of looking into because they were written 90 years after his life" when the earliest Plato´s text is like 500 years after his life...

I’ve been looking forward to this my good man. You never disappoint in making quality content.

The Scriptures DO NOT say there is no repentance without blood. In fact, the Scriptures are VERY clear that the blood doesn’t mean anything WITHOUT repentance.

How does anyone take Adam Green seriously?

People say that the scriptures are forgeries etc, I wonder if they say the same thing about the lives of the saints, the living scriptures who testify to the truth of Christ. Are all of these miraculous and amazing stories of triumph also then forgeries and fakes?

The way Adam debates is so disingenuous and uncharitable, it doesn’t appear like he’s looking for truth. He has a wicked spirit of divisiveness in him. The amount of relief he would experience if God pulled it from him would prob have him floating into the sky. I know what I’m seeing here. Pray for that man

Adam talking about progression and anti oppression. He sounds like a Jew himself.

If Adam wanted to convince people you really think he would have a conversation instead of trying to railroad every point his opponents make. It so insufferable.

Kudos to Jeem for patiently sitting through Adam's absolute dogshit pagan prattle.

Adam: “They don't hate Rome.” Two minutes later Adam: “they hate it” Two minutes later Adam “they don't hate it”

I wish the moderator was better and stop adam from trying to railroad Jeem and reading nonsense superchats. If this was a more stricked formal debate, adam wouldnt know what to do.

Lol Adam is the worst, good job Jeem.

Adam Green arguing against an imaginary evangelical dispensationalist and not Jeem directly shows his one trick pony Ad hoc conspiracy vomit fraudster antics. Well done Jeem 👍☦️🔥

Was looking everywhere for dis 👀

Awesome!

Great debate hope to see more like this

Imagine working this hard to say “God not Real cause he not do what I want to be right” it all boils down to COOMING and cannibalism. Without a moral reason and truth it’s just opinions and personal incredulity.

17 minutes is how long it took for Green to pull the racism card, thats 18 minutes longer than i thought he would last

Adam is the definition of bad faith.

I would happily watch another debate between Jeem and Adam, this was a very productive and entertaining debate

1:05:28 I’d say this is the biggest mistake with most people in regards to criticizing Christianity, they always interpret it on their own terms thus attack a strawman and keep asserting their position is the case. And the main way they can back up their position is by reading in later beliefs and positions into early Christianity, in Adam’s case it’s western Chrisistom (as if it’s representative of Christianity as a whole), Talmudic Judaism, Hellenism, and anti Joo conspiracies. I don’t know how you were able to debate this guy without getting a migraine Jeem but you’re the man for this one.

Jeem you have the potential to be a good debater but your biggest flaw is that you only go on the defensive. Debating religion is about comparing worldviews to see who has the better system. You need to show how atheism is a stupid worldview. You can do this either by granting none of your oppositions arguments and forcing them to justify their beliefs or by granting all of their beliefs by doing an internal critique to use secular arguments for why Chrisitanity is superior. You make Adam Green look better than he should by only playing defense and not attacking his worldview. Rhetoric is arguably the most convincing tactic of debate and humiliating your opponent and making them look stupid is crucial to winning over the audience to your position.

LETS GOOOO

YO FINALLY ON YT🎉.

Adam is the typical apologist who thinks that speaking over the conversation is how you win a debate. Jeem showed incredible patience.

Rabbi Green does it again

That was exhausting

Bravo brotha, you is on the map

1:47:13 Adam uses the argument that the Greek word ginomai in Romans 1.3 means manufactured. He obviously doesn't know Greek. You can't take a very flexible verb like ginomai, which has a wide range of meanings, and use it to build a case for saying that Jesus wasn't born into this world or that he didn't walk on earth. Ginomai is related to the verb gennao (to bear, to beget, produce offspring, etc.) and one of its meanings is to be born or begotten.

Try and count how many times the goal post is moved.

Great performance. Watched it live on The Crucible.

This was really fun debate. Enjoyed your composed way of debating because Adam can make people lose their cool. "Can we go to my thing please?" Is how this debate can be described. He asks questions and gives answers to them in the same breath.

This was insufferable. How you lasted 3 hours of this idk

The korinth guy is almost more annoying than green lmao. They both are so full of themselves seeping with pride

Jeem should orthodox women cover their faces? Ive thought this is islamisation of orthodoxy but then i found this quotes Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.265Clement of Alexandria (A.D. 195) Ante-Nicene Fathers vol.2 pg.266 which talk about fsce covering? Is it true?

Good stuff 👍👍

Adam Green tactic reminds me of debating Muslims online. Just shotgun a bunch of stuff and not letting the other guy answer point by point.

Islam is not in the Race, Reb Green.

Damn, TAG sends Adam into literally melt down mode.

32:54 -- Appeal to Possibility Fallacy (If it's possible, my argument is true) 34:13 -- Appeal to Subjective Experience Fallacy (People believed in God through subjective means, so my argument is true) 34:41 -- Strawman Fallacy (The Church lied about some things, therefore my argument about Christianity being a myth/lie is true) 34:53 -- Category Error Fallacy (Someone lying within Church authority means the Gospels were a lie, since they're in the same 'genre') 42:01 -- Slanting Fallacy (He frames a historical event as a purported dialectic control tactic skewing the story's authenticity with no evidence) 45:12 -- Strawmen Fallacies (Christians don't devalue this world, we just also value another; heaven. It's a both/and, not either/or Adam... He does this with an incorrect exegetical statement, and also his comment on how we're anti-family) 47:56 -- Category Error Fallacy (Adam attempts at reading a bible verse thinking every word has a univocal meaning when the very idea of implying it has a univocal meaning is an interpretation. This interpretation is false.)

as-salam alaikum, great performance! But one thing, just to be safe and for the sake of keeping the channel, when mentioning jewish people its honestly best to mute them. Jay dyer never ever brings anything regarding them because the algorithm will mostly screen as naughty thing.

1:01:49 We have all the great works of Ancient Greek philosophers, poets, mathematicians, engineers, architects…etc…, because of the Greek Orthodox Christian universities, in glittering Constantinople. The Christians, documented, and taught these works which the Greek Orthodox Christian Roman citizens, felt they had inherited. Christianity, is not the enemy of Plato, or Aristotle. Just as Christianity is NOT incompatible with Science. Christian universities, simply created a dialogue, which led to criticism of what the pagans got wrong, while admiring what they got right. Not only did they learn from their inheritance, but they used Christianity, to build on it, and reach greater heights.

did you cut parts of this video, or edit it? or is it some kind of buffering

For Adam to be right, the Js would need to have pushed Christianity to get gentiles away from paganism, then gotten Christians away from Christianity with modern day paganism, all so they'd be ready for the J-ish messiah, thus negating the need for Christianity in the first place. It makes sense to Adam.

Moderation sucked, only letting Green to continue to use his bullshit tactics

Adam Green is insufferable. His tactic is to talk over you when you make your point and move the goalpost.

This is actually not a bad debate, good back and forth.

Great job jeem!!

This guy is a total sophist

Green is awful at this lmao

Link for the full debate?

any chance for an uncut version uploaded to eg Rumble?

You should debate him on the historical jesus..

Adam talks just to hear the sound of his own voice.

"What's wrong with one world religion?" Is this freewill? Do we get to choose? Because I don't want to follow a religion. Would I be a threat to you? If so, then why? These questions are for Jeem.

Adam so many times makes statements without understanding the conclusions these statements lead to, and calls it a strawman when these conclusions are argued agaisnt claiming "oh I didnt say that" Its like someone saying "2+2" and someone respondeds "oh that's 4" and the original guy says "What!?! I never said the number 4! Straw man!"

Adam legit has to be an insane person...

Why would anyone value this man’s opinion?

Ben Burton's website Ladder of Jacob is a great resource showing Messiah from rabbinic sources, which anti missionaries leave out.

Word salad for the algorithm!

> I'm not a Catholic dude Missing the point, dude.

Jeem is an impressive man, he is young but so well educated and very mature . I am surprised how well educated he is .

I'm just an average dude studying theology while I'm home all day watching my new born... I have quite a few theological questions I'd love to ask someone who knows what their talking about.... Hopefully someone from the channel sees my comment

You have to put the source of love before your parents if you’re going to love them

1:35:01 He needs to steel man the True Christian theology, of the first thousand years.

A quick glance at the thumbnail and my mind concluded Adam Green debated Ben Shapiro. Now that would be hilarious.

Why so many skips / interrupts? Do you know of a version without skips or was there lag on the stream that day?

Can someone explain the whole calling yourself a pagan thing and repeatedly calling believing in anything that isn’t atheism stupid? Isn’t green meant to be religious if he’s pagan?

3 things (I’m new convert orthodox) 1. when jeem say the apocrypha isn’t canon what did he mean because orthodox accept deuterocanon 2. Did he say Jesus isn’t the logos? Jay dyer always calls Jesus the logos and so does 99% of priests 3. Did Jeem also say that Jews didn’t have oral tradition?

So all the disciples would willingly die horrible deaths just to safeguard a fraud they created using the using Jewish texts ? Not likely

Jeem at some point argued that because people died for what they believed, it proves their beliefs to be true. It’s a bad argument.

Adam Green is my Rabbi...

Cooked him!

Why you run from the Truth Cartel discord?

Why did you cut some of the debate out??

Jeem, you really did smoke him. He had you on the ropes a couple of times but you came back and got the W.

Gish gallop and red herrings, the Adam Green playbook. Great debate but I would have been a little more aggressive to cut off Green's prattle. I know its armchair quarterbacking but its my 2 cents. Congrats on the win!

You can't prove to an atheist that god exists or that the bible is is the right religion, that's for god to do. Faith is what you can't prove to an atheist and only god can prove that to them. Maybe those that don't learn have another role to play in gods plans. Who are we to know? Were just suppose to be keeping on the straight and narrow and preaching to those who will listen. That's hard enough for us as it is.

I like how Adam hates multiculturalism but thinks Rome was ethnically and culturally homogenous. Also ignoring the fact that Rome and Greece wanted to take over the world anyway. Props to you for putting up with this, Jeems. Edit: He legit thinks a Dark Age happened that held back science. And then he jumps around to avoid the fact he got refuted. Green is not worth anybody’s time. Ge just throws out arguments hoping they stick when one goes down. He should read a book, not what some dude on a blog says.

Genuine question. What is wrong with conquest? I have never seen Adam actually explain why Conquest is wrong or bad. Why is it bad that a "God man" rule over the whole world? Why is authoritarianism bad? Adam never answers these questions.