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Ultimate Tier IV Bf109 Performance Comparison (Speed, Climb, Turn, etc) (5000 Sub Special)

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AdamTheEnginerd

AdamTheEnginerd

Күн бұрын

MERCH: teespring.com/...
Fuel: Constant 20 minutes (except for MER)
Manual Engine Control settings:
-0% radiators
Another voiced video in such a short period of time?? 3 voiced videos in 6 months, I spoil you all.
Today I'm talking about the performance differences between every tier IV 5.3 BR Bf109: G14, G14/AS, G10, K4. There are a lot of misconceptions about the differences between these Bf109s (I've had some as well), such as the G14 being the best turning 5.3 BR Bf109. With the help of testing to determine the truth, I present the actual differences between these Bf109s in Speed, Climb, Roll, Turn, and MER, and I add my recommendation of which Bf109 you should be using. Enjoy!
Tier IV Bf109 Comparison Spreadsheet:
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Maneuvering Energy Retention (MER) video:
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Пікірлер: 681
@doch.8039
@doch.8039 5 жыл бұрын
I’m actually using war thunder’s performance diffs for my math final presentation! My teacher, unfortunately, only plays ground rb...
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Haha lucky!
@terrado6746
@terrado6746 5 жыл бұрын
LOOOOL 🤣🤣🤣
@Blitzcreeper239
@Blitzcreeper239 5 жыл бұрын
Just be content with the fact your teacher plays WT ;) Unless, of course, it's a joke.
@doch.8039
@doch.8039 5 жыл бұрын
Blitzcreeper JC oh he does, but only ground RB as stated
@tytanowyjanusz9984
@tytanowyjanusz9984 5 жыл бұрын
@@doch.8039 Then join GB and bomb the crap out of him!
@jeager7623
@jeager7623 5 жыл бұрын
oh god im getting flashbacks from my year 10 physics
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Haha is that good or bad?
@janchovanec8624
@janchovanec8624 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Don't listen to him, he's got PTSD. His brother just showed him how much he was loved by his father.
@iank6897
@iank6897 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I've wanted to see a video like this for so long. Always wondered what the little differences between the 109s were.... you earned a sub. I'm still curious as to how the G-6 compares with these though... I was hoping it would be on the vid
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Haha glad I delivered! Welcome! How did you come to find this video so early if you aren't a sub? G6 is a slightly slower G14, so it deserves 4.7 BR or so compared to the G14 (which could be 5.0 compared to the K4). Already 4 aircraft on the same graph is the limit for clarity haha.
@iank6897
@iank6897 5 жыл бұрын
It came up in the recommended vids. I had a suspicion that the G14 turned better than the G10, glad to have it confirmed... what I was mostly wondering is how the G6 compares to them then. In my experience it feels more sluggish than the G14
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
G14s fight less maneuverable aircraft, so that might be the reason. Interesting, thanks!
@thander28210
@thander28210 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a complete 109 sheet, as the difference between the g2 to the g6 and finally to the k4 interest me due to the br difference. My favorite out of feel is the g6, even though its the worst out of the mw50 wielding 109s, the low br makes it feel decent. Basically the horsepower of a 5.3 109 for slightly worse characteristics all around, it feels like a bastard between early and late 109 playstyles and i love it for that
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
As in turn times, radius, speed, climb for every Bf109?
@aiugiamos3057
@aiugiamos3057 5 жыл бұрын
The G6 is the worst 109 regarding performances/BR, try to 1v1 a G2 with a G6 by the way ;)
@thander28210
@thander28210 5 жыл бұрын
@@aiugiamos3057 at 4.7 you get 25ish m/s clilbrate
@benbot2.087
@benbot2.087 5 жыл бұрын
You have the patience of a saint
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks for the praise! I enjoy doig this kind of thing though.
@WhooptieDo
@WhooptieDo 5 жыл бұрын
He speaks!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes!
@Lemure_Noah
@Lemure_Noah 5 жыл бұрын
What about compare Spifire against bf 109 in tier IV ( or III, or II...) ?
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
That would be cool! What's more interesting, G2Trop vs Spitfire Mk IX or 5.7 BR Spitfires vs 5.3 BR Bf109s?
@damocles8159
@damocles8159 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd I think the griffon spits cause people more issues so a comparison with them could yield some insights how to counter them better.
@georgegeorge9361
@georgegeorge9361 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd well 5.7 spitfires are better than 109 at low alt G2 is better almost every where IMO
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Eh Spitfires shine at 7-8km where K4 at least starts to slow down. K4 is better at low alt relatively compared to Spitfires.
@JoelLinus
@JoelLinus 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd But only because of the better fuel they had against the german machines
@audricmerryman8107
@audricmerryman8107 5 жыл бұрын
I have nothing but the upmost respect for you adam. You honestly put so much work into your videos and you cut out all of the BS. You are straight to the point and concise. Max respect brother. I would love to face you in a game even though I would probably get my ass handed to me on a silver platter
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah I prefer concise videos over those in which the person is just rambling, so that's why I make my videos like this!
@hunter.1
@hunter.1 4 жыл бұрын
Great work my friend. Thank you and greetings from Brazil
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@dogeness
@dogeness 5 жыл бұрын
I think an interesting comparison would be all the F4U-1 variants. Might make more people aware of how ridiculous the BR spacing of the -1 Corsairs are.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
You'd need a baseline comparison with an enemy aircraft, like an F4.
@XpunisherX8152
@XpunisherX8152 5 жыл бұрын
Not the video we wanted. But the video we needed
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Batman?
@erlendlundvall
@erlendlundvall 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I have always thought that the G-14 was better than the G-10 at higher altitudes.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
That might have been true before the introduction of the Italian G14/AS, wheere the German G14 got the low altitude version of the powerplant. Now the G14 is the worst at high altitude.
@libra9381
@libra9381 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd if i am not mistaken Adam, even before the introduction of K4, the G14 has 7500m alt. and also has the best cooling down system of 109s, back then g6 was even faster than g14 below 3k alt..
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think I played WT before the K4 was introduced, so I wouldn't know.
@aiugiamos3057
@aiugiamos3057 5 жыл бұрын
@@libra9381 The G14 came last. K4 has been in game for years, to me the G14 is still the "new 109".
@libra9381
@libra9381 5 жыл бұрын
@@aiugiamos3057 ok, lets say i am mistaken the introduction time but my point is that g14 was good at high alt. which was around 7500 i believe.
@Agent-ic1pe
@Agent-ic1pe 5 жыл бұрын
I figured out how to beat griffons in the 109k-4. Literally just wait at high altitude until they dive, and then dive on them. And learn to aim the MK108
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Lol that works for most situations.
@Alpakinator
@Alpakinator 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, for this video. I like those kind of precise comparisons between vehicles. You could compare La 9 and La 7 ;)
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure mate! I like them too! I'll keep it in mind! No one cares about Russia though :(.
@BARelement
@BARelement 5 жыл бұрын
Adam514 Russian teams don't know how to fly Russian planes and the b20 cannons don't do Jack sh** so that maybe why (I've played recently and teams in general are so inconsistent but USSR has to be one of the worst lately. I'm usually the last guy or atleast at any reasonable position or alt.
@FocusFrameMediaLLC
@FocusFrameMediaLLC 5 жыл бұрын
This was a very necessary video! Thank you for going in depth with the comparisons! Now I know I'm not missing out on anything for not going through with the g line 😅 k4 OP
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
I agree! My pleasure! And you certainly aren't if you're skipping the G14!
@GreenFuryGaming
@GreenFuryGaming 5 жыл бұрын
good stuff mate!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@pinkdirt8652
@pinkdirt8652 5 жыл бұрын
You could easily make this a series. If you do i’d like to request the Ki-84’s, the J2M’s, and P51’s(D-5 20 30 etc). And maybe even the Fw190D’s.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Yup a series might be the plan. Videos like this take a long time to make though. I'll keep it in mind!
@gef019
@gef019 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much one of the best Warthunder related videos right now.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! But what do you mean by "right now"?
@gef019
@gef019 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Wells because lately most videos are about the Dev server and i am not that interested in Air tier 6 since i am pretty sure it will be the same as when tier 6 tanks were introduced. And in my opinion 5.3 is the one of the most relevant BR for Germany.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Oh okay I see. Yeah not everyone is passionate about the upcoming update, and more are skeptical.
@angeloc1340
@angeloc1340 5 жыл бұрын
He means right now as in Until your releases another video
@otatoshio4315
@otatoshio4315 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see comparison between the F4Us
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
F4U-4 vs F4U-7 vs F4U-4B? Or the earlier ones?
@CoreZer0
@CoreZer0 5 жыл бұрын
I vote for later models 4, 4b and 7.
@paulchirica7890
@paulchirica7890 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Could you please try to do the J2M variants, some of my other friends not just myself have no clue to go off other than br and the different guns
@maggi98mw
@maggi98mw 5 жыл бұрын
@@otatoshio4315 the 1a us just op at 2.7
@RyanTheHero3
@RyanTheHero3 4 жыл бұрын
I love the 4B, those 20mm cannons are like 1 shot destroyers. It was the end of a match and I wanted to get a quick last kill and just wildly sprayed a ju 288 from 1.5 km away. One shot hit the wing and tore the whole thing off. One. Shot. M3s ftw.
@soyderiverdeliverybeaver8941
@soyderiverdeliverybeaver8941 5 жыл бұрын
its finally here, thank you for so much
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@NicoloMinecraft
@NicoloMinecraft 5 жыл бұрын
Professor Adam video with voice: 10/10. Next do a comparison video on every bomber with energy retention, turn time, rate of climb, and rate of salt when you shoot them down.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I refuse!
@blastisocco
@blastisocco 5 жыл бұрын
Damn what a nice vid Adam!!!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@brendannolan2508
@brendannolan2508 5 жыл бұрын
Another technical video with voice commentary from Adam514. Love it.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@Agent-ic1pe
@Agent-ic1pe 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats! It would be nice to have a P-51D-5 vs D-30 comparison sometime. I always assumed that the D-30 had better sustained turn but a few days ago a D-5 was turning better even though I had landing flaps on. Also, I think spitfire mk vb vs. mk ix would be informative. And P-47D-28 vs N-15. And maybe Yak 7 vs. Yak 1 vs. Yak 9. But yeah. Congrats on 5k
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Hmm D30 should have the sustained turn time advantage. Fuel difference perhaps? Thanks for the suggestions!
@Agent-ic1pe
@Agent-ic1pe 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd I was at 30 mins fuel, which is the same as the D-5's minimum. I was also spaded. Maybe the landing flaps on the D-30 bleed too much energy? I was pretty surprised too. But it was just a sustained flat turn with equal starting energy.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm I don't see a reason why the D5 would outturn the D30.
@8-bithades305
@8-bithades305 Жыл бұрын
@@Agent-ic1peIk this is 4 years ago, but if you used flaps and he didn’t you lost more speed, which is what matters in sustained time.
@mussahemed1153
@mussahemed1153 5 жыл бұрын
A much needed video. Nicely made. Any person who like to fly German planes has always ended up with the question of the 5.3 BR 109s, thanks for clearing it up. Safe to say we may start seeing alot more K4s in the air compared to the G series.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Yup it's a classic question, with a lot of misconceptions. Only if this video is viewed a lot haha.
@mussahemed1153
@mussahemed1153 5 жыл бұрын
667 likes so far. 667 people who suddenly found the motivation to flyout a k4 ;)
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Haha probably!
@Lemure_Noah
@Lemure_Noah 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you back!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I've been gone?
@uncletimo6059
@uncletimo6059 5 жыл бұрын
Niiice. I will take credit for this video, because I was pestering you to make such a BF109 comparison.Good job, peon!!! ;=)
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks! Similar to how the managers take credit for the employee's work?
@uncletimo6059
@uncletimo6059 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same!Of course, if an employee messes up, it is his own fault.
@bernardduchamp509
@bernardduchamp509 5 жыл бұрын
Most accurate and most professional War Thunder Channel i know. Really nicely done!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, means a lot!
@flak8842
@flak8842 4 жыл бұрын
thank you adam i was confused on which one is better before i can purchase one of them now i will purchase the K-4 thanks adam
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@georges6324
@georges6324 5 жыл бұрын
spitfire Performance Comparison Speed, Climb, Turn
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
I'll keep it in mind!
@twbones99
@twbones99 5 жыл бұрын
Voice commentary? I like it!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@joeg2293
@joeg2293 5 жыл бұрын
This is what i needed in my life right now. Just drinking it all in.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Enough art in this video for your tastes?
@joeg2293
@joeg2293 5 жыл бұрын
The only art I need is the kind that increases inf attack to 2
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one.
@enzomunoz4491
@enzomunoz4491 5 жыл бұрын
i was waiting for a video like this thanks adam! greetings from chile
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure mate!
@KimerikKukka
@KimerikKukka 5 жыл бұрын
This was golden. Thank you.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@conradsmith7548
@conradsmith7548 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making these kinds of detailed videos. I have been trying to figure out which plane (the k4 or g10) was better for a while.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure man! Feel free to suggest topics!
@inbliss_
@inbliss_ 5 жыл бұрын
Great effort you have portrayed in this video!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@bds_gaming2091
@bds_gaming2091 5 жыл бұрын
I love how technical you get into this game. You bring us great knowledge that we aren't willing to put into test flights lol. I subbed to your channel because I can always count on you to know how my aircrafts performance stacks up compared to the competition. That helps me from having to learn the hard way as often lol Keep em coming!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
I get technical because it's a technical game! And also because I love getting technical haha. Glad to be of help! Thanks for the support!
@bds_gaming2091
@bds_gaming2091 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Oh I love it! I just started using local host from watching one of your vids. I was interested in figuring out when I should be switching supercharger gears. I know there is the spreadsheet but I was always skeptical on that data. Started using local host and figuring out altitude to change gear at based off of thrust and horsepower and got much different numbers so thanks for that. Id also like to calculate max rate of climb (Vy speed) for a few planes that I like to fly the most but haven't gotten that far yet.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Gear switch alt also depends on speed a bit. I also find the switch altitude myself.
@jacksonbert9546
@jacksonbert9546 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that help me a lot! Thx bro :D
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@BARelement
@BARelement 5 жыл бұрын
Very much enjoyed this test! Looking forward to more of your content adam! 😃
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! More will come!
@BARelement
@BARelement 5 жыл бұрын
Adam514 YEEP! And no problem keep up the great work!
@Korozija
@Korozija 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video, congrats on the 5000 subs.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@aerohydra3849
@aerohydra3849 5 жыл бұрын
2:54 thats one fast Bf 109.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Time warping Nazi technology ;).
@S4LeagueTBKing
@S4LeagueTBKing 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i have been waiting for this!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to have delivered!
@S4LeagueTBKing
@S4LeagueTBKing 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd indeed. Still find it funny that the G10 is better than the G14 when i thought the G14 was better or evenly matched with the K4 however everytime i see a K4 i try out turn it at low alt. Didn't know taking it from high to low it still keeps its speed but happy to know its MER is bad. So, some turning here and there can save me next time (hopefully). Thanks for the knowledge again.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Haha better/evenly matched with K4?? Bf109 MER is slightly below average, but the difference is very minor between 5.3 BR Bf109s (1-2%). My pleasure!
@Tommy-iw4yv
@Tommy-iw4yv 5 жыл бұрын
Wow now this is some quality content. Hopefully we'll get a spitfire comparison or a yak or even a zero why not.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Implying my other content is quality ;)? Spitfire Yak Zero at the same BR comparison?
@perferre346
@perferre346 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. I'll be spading that 14a/s
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and good luck!
@jordanmoore8586
@jordanmoore8586 5 жыл бұрын
You kept your promise about speaking :D
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha of course!
@bluthammer1442
@bluthammer1442 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man. Great video. There is certainly a comparison that you must do - you know this... Do exactly the same comparison, but with the p51s and spits at that BR. you already have the k4 data, so you wont need to run those again. Seriously - that would be sick awesome.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Everything on the same graph? Or best P51, best Bf109, best Fw190, best Spitfire?
@BARelement
@BARelement 5 жыл бұрын
Adam514 that line up seems about right. Maybe throw in the Ta? But you don't have to I guess.
@bluthammer1442
@bluthammer1442 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd MMM - As a (failing) 109 K4 player - I'd vote the K4 vs the best (in those BRs) of both the p51's and spits. Use the same graphs also - it's super informative :)
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@soyderiverdeliverybeaver8941
@soyderiverdeliverybeaver8941 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd you can end up doing a huge graph with all the planes you add each video, post it somewhere where you can add functions from time to time
@rawandmohammed5642
@rawandmohammed5642 5 жыл бұрын
dude great work thank you im really more interested in the physics than the gameplay itself lol i need these videos
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks! Yeah I feel you, I'd say we have the same opinion! Feel free to suggest topics!
@AcePilot3342
@AcePilot3342 5 жыл бұрын
Great work. Thank you for making this!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and my pleasure! We flew a couple of times together recently right?
@AcePilot3342
@AcePilot3342 5 жыл бұрын
Adam514 probably! I’m always there bashing my head against my keyboard in a 109k4.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
K4 is pretty good with good teams now though.
@dinomra7771
@dinomra7771 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative thankyou!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure mate!
@paulchirica7890
@paulchirica7890 5 жыл бұрын
Praise! It is here!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Finally! Am I right?
@nuclearhominoidea
@nuclearhominoidea 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 5.000 subs!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@gbro8822
@gbro8822 3 жыл бұрын
Adam you are brilliant. Thank you. Greg
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Greg!
@Leon_der_Luftige
@Leon_der_Luftige 5 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and I have to say: You rock!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, welcome!
@Joseph-2000
@Joseph-2000 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 5K Subs! Ive always been wondering what the difference between the later 109's were
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Likewise!
@hendrik457
@hendrik457 5 жыл бұрын
havent watched it yet but im already excited what the damn differences are in these aircrafts!
@hendrik457
@hendrik457 5 жыл бұрын
and you sound dutch-like.
@hendrik457
@hendrik457 5 жыл бұрын
i for some reason always liked the g10 more. it felt more maneuverable and lighter. probably a placebo because i thought lighter = more maneuverable (not most of the the time. it isnt this simple ofcourse) now i'll finally walk away from my g10 and see if i can have the same dogfights in the k4! after bnz'ing the higher priority targets ofcourse. thanks for the video!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha then you'll enjoy it! Interesting. I'm Canadian though.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! Plus you have the added bonus that people think you turn slightly worse in a K4 ;).
@hendrik457
@hendrik457 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd just played 5ish games won all but 1 with the k4. great plane indeed. finally got it fully spaded now too
@gerardodiscepola3790
@gerardodiscepola3790 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, answers a lot of my questions. Thanks!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure bro!
@josuealex182
@josuealex182 4 жыл бұрын
man so much effort in just 1 video, you re a legend!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Lots more like this on my channel too!
@dhc-op2rw
@dhc-op2rw 5 жыл бұрын
very nice video, seems like it took a lot of effort to be made, thank you!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! It did require a lot of effort, but it was fun and enlightening!
@Kaizy
@Kaizy 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine putting so much work into this comparisson and then they (might/could/would) shadow patch all top 109s a couple of days later like they like to do all the time. That´s why not so many videos like this were made :(.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! But Bf109s have been like this for a while with no recent changes and no one is really complaining about them, so it should last! And the conclusions shouldn't change much even if they are changed.
@akutan_zero
@akutan_zero 5 жыл бұрын
Finally the video I wait for! Thank you!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hope I delivered!
@arternativeyt
@arternativeyt 5 жыл бұрын
Now try to do some comparison between K4 vs D30, G10 / G14 vs D20, and G6 vs D5 please :)
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Meh why use the D20 as a comparison though? Bf109 vs P51D would be interesting.
@calvinstraveldreams
@calvinstraveldreams 3 ай бұрын
4:24 I think the higher lift coefficient of the Bf 109K-4 compared to other Tier IV Bf 109s has a lot to do with the clamshell wheel well doors covering the outer part of the front wheel wells. The clamshell doors essentially "smooth" the wing shape and increase its efficiency, whereas the previous Bf 109s had interruptions in the wing shape caused by the partially exposed main landing gear wheels (that reduced the efficiency of the wings). Really the wheel well doors, for a weight increase of just 4kg per my calculations, add A LOT to the Bf 109's performance.
@misegades
@misegades 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work sir. I'd love to see the P-51D-30 thrown into the mix, as well as the Bf 109G-6
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Best Bf109 vs best P51D?
@misegades
@misegades 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Yes, I think best Bf 109 vs best P-51D would be nice to see. I'd also like to see how the G-6 compares to the other late 109's, see if there's some kind of justification for the disparity in BR.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
G6 is a slightly slower G14 really.
@trumpetbk4604
@trumpetbk4604 3 жыл бұрын
That's cool! I think it would also be cool to compare each nations' super prop to see how the same tests with maybe a few more to highlight the bigger differences between the completely different planes
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out my Battle of the Graphs videos!
@trumpetbk4604
@trumpetbk4604 3 жыл бұрын
Cool!, I'll look them up
@aether3697
@aether3697 4 жыл бұрын
4:39 those trees are giving me anxiety
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 4 жыл бұрын
That's the point ;).
@itwasme2435
@itwasme2435 5 жыл бұрын
Thx for testes Noice voice =P
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, and thanks!
@marceloandrade880
@marceloandrade880 5 жыл бұрын
Cool ! i love your channel, im trying to learn about you and your videos...and trying to understand the english ;) (i dont speak english so well but im learning), thanks !!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! I was talking a bit quickly in this video, was it more difficult to understand?
@marceloandrade880
@marceloandrade880 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd its ok, i have automatic substitles also, i understand, thanks!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Oh they work on my voice? Cool.
@shadowaffles
@shadowaffles 5 жыл бұрын
aqui é BR mano, tamo junto!!!
@stefanmichaelsenzegarra5688
@stefanmichaelsenzegarra5688 5 жыл бұрын
Holy sht, nice vid brother
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Surprised?
@vilisrozentals
@vilisrozentals 5 жыл бұрын
good video m8. And there is no brainier that we would like to see p51 mustang`s :) But with mec pls
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
P51 comparison? Or P51 matches? MEC is essentially default for me ;).
@vilisrozentals
@vilisrozentals 5 жыл бұрын
Well if u want do both, would like to see comparison, we all know that d30 is the best one, but by how much and whats the other pors and cons, also dont forget about d10 and d20 :) Yea mec is the bomb, not so long ago I didnt understand how crucial it can be, but now I cannot live without mec. And havent seen u in d30 for freekin ages, would be nice to see pro do some amazing games- for example 1vs8 or more :D he he
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
I'll think about it! Yeah I haven't flown the D30 much since the rudder nerf. I flew it recently and did pretty well, but the rudder is just a shame. Haha 1vs8 doesn't happen to me really, because I rush in and try to kill the enemies as they kill my team. Highest I faced on KZfaq is 1vs5 I think.
@lightunicorn1371
@lightunicorn1371 4 жыл бұрын
How have I not seen this video before I've watched almost everyone of his vids
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 4 жыл бұрын
Never too late to catch up ;).
@Blackburn6969
@Blackburn6969 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice videos man! this is making me want to get into warthunder again! great instructional content!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! You should get back into it!
@xarzithas
@xarzithas 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I always felt the k4 had a very good performance, even pre-buff. Btw any chance you might cover the meteor mk3?(I know its a jet and you mostly like to play props.). I am struggling with how to achieve a fun match in it. Granted its stock and all, but even so. Also, kind of disappointed about no godmode aim kills in the video, but I know there will probably be some in the next one :D
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Depends what buff you are talking about. A bit more than a year ago it couldn't pull more than 7Gs, it was pretty harsh. Meteor is on my list! It was my first jet, fighting props. It was fun. Sorry about the lack of aim though haha.
@xarzithas
@xarzithas 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd My first Jet was the ho 229, and although the guns were abysmal I generally had a fun time flying it. But with the meteor mk3 everything seems to be abysmal. guns have an insane spread making headons difficult. I generally try to avoid headons, but the mk3 is so slow that I often find it is my only possibility of getting a kill. its too slow to dictate the fight, and generally you are vs teams of superior jets the british cannot control, even though it turns really nice. I have tried climbing and attempting to be the controller, I have tried staying low and being the supporter(my most successful style in the mk3 so far.). I have tried rushing tree level to be the initiator. Nothing seems to work. I am enjoying the challenge, but it can get really frustrating being dependent on a team, if said team always seems to be a let down.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Eh Ho229 spread is worse than the nose mounted Hispanos. People turn in early jets, so just turn with them and win.
@aiugiamos3057
@aiugiamos3057 5 жыл бұрын
It used to be a beast years ago and got nerfed again and again and again to a point where it was near useless, they buffed it a bit and now it's just a good rank IV. G14 was overperforming when it came out, they nerfed it and now it's pointless because it shares the K4's BR and the K4 was buffed in perfs and with the 20mm nose gun.
@141Zero
@141Zero 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, subbed. It would be nice to see videos for other plane variants at close br (p51, p47, fw190, spitfires, etc).
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, welcome! I'll keep it in mind!
@haideribrahim7261
@haideribrahim7261 5 жыл бұрын
Great video mate, next fw 190
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Fw190 comparison?
@dogeness
@dogeness 5 жыл бұрын
wow great job with this
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Surprised?
@carlosa4870
@carlosa4870 5 жыл бұрын
great video man keep it up
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I will!
@carlosa4870
@carlosa4870 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd if you can maybe make a vid on how to counter high tier allied planes like griffon spits, p51h and f8fs,using 5.3 and 5.7 germans they always crush me
@ithoughtshewas18
@ithoughtshewas18 5 жыл бұрын
Next time I see you in a 109,I'm going the other way 😅 Congrats on the 5k sub btw 🍻
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks!
@a_lauscha5604
@a_lauscha5604 5 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant! Very nice and much appreciated : ) How about a comparison between the Russian high tier props: La-9, Yak-9UT, I-225? Or Japan: the last N1K2s and the last Ki-84s?
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'll keep it in mind!
@Beowulf_DW
@Beowulf_DW 5 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done! Now I just need to figure out why my K/D is better in the G-14 than the G-10...
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently the G14 used to be OP like 3-4 years ago when it was released, perhaps you flew it at that time?
@Beowulf_DW
@Beowulf_DW 5 жыл бұрын
...I wasn't even playing this game 3-4 years ago...
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm then it's variance!
@Beowulf_DW
@Beowulf_DW 5 жыл бұрын
I took a statistics course in high school, so I think I know what that actually means!
@Blitzcreeper239
@Blitzcreeper239 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a comparison of similar planes instead of a comparison of the same model. For example: the Hellacat against the Corsair, the Ki-61 against maybe the Bf 109 Emil/Friedrichs or any appropriate Italian fighter, or a medley of the turnfighters: Hurricanes, Ishaks, Spitfires, Hayabusas, and Zeroes.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
As in what an aircraft would likely face as its opposition? Indeed, but an aircraft can usually face over 10 different enrmy aircraft, rendering difficult to make these comparisons.
@Blitzcreeper239
@Blitzcreeper239 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd As in, what you've been testing for the 109s here, but comparing two different aircraft which have similar playstyles, and what differences they have. My suggestions weren't all the planes at once, but more of 1) F6F vs F4U (any 2 models at similar BR) 2) 109E or F vs Ki-61 3) The 5 turnfighters against one another
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm alright, though I think it's more interesting to compare either similar BR aircraft in a nation, or similar BR enemies.
@csd2168
@csd2168 5 жыл бұрын
Great video btw.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@vrobert01
@vrobert01 5 жыл бұрын
Pls more video like this! Very useful.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Takes a lot of time to make them, but feel free to propose topics!
@dominikknez7717
@dominikknez7717 5 жыл бұрын
So good video! Maybe compare all tier 4 planes (not attackers and bombers) from every country and pick the best 1 from every country and than the best plane!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Haha that's a lot of work! And when comparing different aircraft, it gets complicated to determine which is better. Different people consider different performance characteristics to be the most important. At best I'd present the comparison and tell my opinion.
@dominikknez7717
@dominikknez7717 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Maybe start slowely with every nation. I would presonaly prefer tier 4. Beacuse this video was like one of the best videos ive seen for warthunder
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks! I do plan on making more of this kind of video.
@dominikknez7717
@dominikknez7717 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Could you tell me what are your favourite tier 4 planes (or what planes do you find the best for tier 4)
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Tempest Mk V, F4U4B, Ta152H are my favorites. Remove Tempest for those that are also very good for their BR.
@spicysaladkid5098
@spicysaladkid5098 5 жыл бұрын
guess I better take some notes huh?
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Link to the Bf109 comparison spreadsheet is in the description!
@terrado6746
@terrado6746 5 жыл бұрын
Planes that need be compared compared: -the N1K2's -the the F8F's -the griffon engine spitfires And the T4 Yak-9's Also congrats for the 5k subs 👍
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Don't the F8Fs have the same performance now? Thanks mate!
@terrado6746
@terrado6746 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd the stats of the X-ray says that... But It doesn't feel like that
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm I haven't even spaded the first F8F because why not have good guns at .3 BR higher?
@terrado6746
@terrado6746 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd well i agree that 6.0 BR is a bit too much for a plane with 4*M2 .50cals...
@dasflieger3103
@dasflieger3103 5 жыл бұрын
Damn! Are you a pilot (in real life) too? Because the way you explained things.... its like you went to flight school.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Nope, I'm just in Aerospace Engineering! Flight school wouldn't cover the kind of concepts I use here, other things are more important to fly safely.
@dasflieger3103
@dasflieger3103 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thats nice! Although we did have an instructor who is a plane mechanic and who knows a lot and also explained it pretty well. I may have thought all flight schools teach that…… Your videos remind me of the reason i started playing this game- all the physics and stuff… you just dont find it in any game. Keep making good videos like you do already.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know exactly what is taught in flight schools, but from what I know they don't go into detail in aerodynamic coefficients and the like. Same for me! And I'm a WW2 buff haha. I will!
@Azzarii
@Azzarii 4 жыл бұрын
If you ever made a similar video of this type, maybe include loops? Otherwise, this was very informative
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 4 жыл бұрын
Energy retention in loops?
@Azzarii
@Azzarii 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@joeg2293
@joeg2293 5 жыл бұрын
Plz do a video on why fighters defend at 4 and attack at 3. And the role of tac bomber support
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Tac bombers are useless.
@aiugiamos3057
@aiugiamos3057 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the time bombers are useless in air RB, it's a team deathmatch and the bombers are either unable to "clean" the map or impossible to counter and can't be balanced in this gamemode as we know it. Conclusion : bombers are ruining the game either way (and nowadays with the ridiculous damage model you don't want to fly in a BIG SLOW flying target). PS : Gaijin is proud of this, they showcased a BV 238 losing it's tail from one SINGLE 12,7mm bullet.
@axel9586
@axel9586 5 жыл бұрын
Good video Adam (salu2 desde Argentina ) 😍😆😊😊
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@jda4887
@jda4887 5 жыл бұрын
Great job, thanks
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, my pleasure!
@Lemard77
@Lemard77 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like G-14/AS is overperforming at low altitude, top speed should be around 560 km/h, slower than the G-14. The AS variants got good high altitude performance at the expense of low altitude compared to their common variant, by having the larger DB 603 surpercharger optimized for high altitude.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Well it does 574km/h at sea level. It doesn't look like it cost much performance at low altitude to have the same high altitude performance as the G10.
@erichdunkel8466
@erichdunkel8466 5 жыл бұрын
Holy Shit, it has a voice.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
3rd voiced video!!
@Fred-F4
@Fred-F4 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content! Would have loved it if you could compare the dive speeds as well.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Well the dive will follow the climb and top speed graphs. I made a video explaining dive in general if you're interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKmFoJWlqpjaqac.html
@tianyizhang2205
@tianyizhang2205 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam can you make a video about those P-51s next time, thanks.
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
What kind of video and which P51s?
@georgegeorge9361
@georgegeorge9361 5 жыл бұрын
This is amazing please do this for other planes too
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Your wish is my command! Which?
@georgegeorge9361
@georgegeorge9361 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd FW 190As or tier IV yaks Yeah I know it is I mean I requested that P-47D28 and it was done in seconds
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Haha sarcastic?
@georgegeorge9361
@georgegeorge9361 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd yes
@yerrrrrd
@yerrrrrd 5 жыл бұрын
K4 module grind is a pain though!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah, takes ages. I spaded it when it couldn't pull more than 7Gs and the 30mm would always spark. It wasn't fun.
@PapaSebs
@PapaSebs 5 жыл бұрын
Well, looks like I made the right choice!
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Now you know, so it doesn't keep you up at night!
@tankmen5686
@tankmen5686 5 жыл бұрын
Wow a voice video so cool adam.I think that the g10 or k4
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
My 3rd voiced video! You didn't finish your comment?
@tankmen5686
@tankmen5686 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd oh yeah .I am new to your channel (4 months i think)But you do a great job.I dont play the bf 109 but i think that g10 is a preety good
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
4 months is around 25% of my KZfaq channel age haha. G10 is the 2nd best.
@paulchirica7890
@paulchirica7890 5 жыл бұрын
Could your next one compare the J2Ms? Similar planes with minor changes like 109, hard to choose
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
The 5.0 BR+ ones?
@just-another-being
@just-another-being 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing work!!! Comparison between all the p47s ?
@AdamTheEnginerd
@AdamTheEnginerd 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I'll keep it in mind!
@just-another-being
@just-another-being 5 жыл бұрын
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thanks 😀
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