Addressing 17 Hebrew Roots Questions

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Defending the Biblical Roots of Christianity

Defending the Biblical Roots of Christianity

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A few years back, a Hebrew Roots documentary was released called "The Way," in which they interview all sorts of Torah-keepers and really make a case for why people should be keeping the Torah feasts, avoiding Christmas and Easter, eating biblically clean (kosher), keeping the seventh day Shabbat, and so on. (And for the record, I see no problem with anyone choosing to do any of those things. If that’s the way you feel led to live out your faith, go for it!) But most Torah keepers don’t view it as an optional way of life. No, they preach it as the only correct way to follow Jesus. And once they cross the line from optional to required, they’ve entered the unbiblical and dangerous waters of Torahism, which champions a false gospel that requires more than faith in Jesus to be righteous.
In that the trailer for that documentary. they pose 17 common Hebrew Roots questions designed to challenge mainstream Christianity. And in this video we answer them all. We also respond to 10 "contradictions" leveled at the Church.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
02:38 Fielding the questions
04:43 #1 If Yeshua kept the law why don't we?
05:33 #2 Why did the apostles keep the feasts?
06:09 #3 Why does the Church claim Israel's blessings?
07:09 #4 How can something everlasting come to an end?
08:04 #5 How could the definition of sin change?
10:08 #6 Why did Paul celebrate Passover?
10:27 #7 How is Jesus sinless if He broke the Sabbath?
10:38 #8 Why did Peter still not eat unclean food?
13:40 #9 Why did Paul say he keeps the law?
14:30 #10 Why do we act like some Torah laws are silly?
16:24 #11 How can the Church change the Sabbath?
17:17 #12 Isn't disobeying the law offensive to Jesus?
18:14 #13 Why did Paul say the law is spiritual?
18:43 #14 Can Christians celebrate Wiccan holidays?
19:58 #15 Why do you say the law is too difficult?
22:24 #16 Why don't we keep Passover?
24:11 #17 Why don't we keep Saturday Sabbath?
25:34 Addressing Ten "Contradictions"

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@SusansRoadLessTraveled
@SusansRoadLessTraveled Ай бұрын
I watched this documentary early on when I joined HRM. 6-1/2 years later I left last December. I even argued against you when watching Wilber's videos with you. I had all the talking points down. So much to say about the movement, so little time. I emailed you Dr. Solberg to thank you for your videos.
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
How dare you argue against me! (Kidding, of course.) Thanks for sharing that, God bless you, Susan! RLS
@rayray4192
@rayray4192 Ай бұрын
Wilber is a proud man spitting in the face of Jesus.
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
​@rayray4192 you are pulling HIS beard out! 😢
@rayray4192
@rayray4192 Ай бұрын
@@6969smurfy if you are trying to communicate you are a failure
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
@@rayray4192 you are too nice
@ThePowerminer11
@ThePowerminer11 Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this! You played a significant role in leading me out of HRM. The two most wonderful moments of my life was 1. Coming to faith, and 2. Leaving Torahism
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
did you come to faith while in the Satanic Cult the Hebrew/Jewish Roots?
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
@ThePowerminer11 I find it fascinating that comments like these, turning From Thy Wisdim of Torah are most always by the Nameless commentators... Why is that?
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
@@6969smurfy Luckily we all know you are in the Satanic Cult the Hebrew/Jewish roots
@ThePowerminer11
@ThePowerminer11 Ай бұрын
@@6969smurfy Because I made this account name when I was 13, I was making minecraft videos and I thought this was a cool channel name. My name is Linus Carlberg, I have no reason to hide.
@BipolarDistortion
@BipolarDistortion Ай бұрын
Excellent work in responding to these concerns. Thank you for all of the time & thought you've put into these.
@thespaminator
@thespaminator Ай бұрын
I honestly don’t know how you do it. I don’t know how you stay so calm and gracious. I have a couple of family members that have fallen into this so I’ve dedicated a fair amount of time looking into this. Trying to talk sense into these people is like trying to talk to a flat earther. It’s unbelievably frustrating.
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
I hear you! It is very frustrating. If you haven't seen it yet, you might find this video of ours helpful: *Five tips for responding to Torah-keeping family and friends* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLh7lplm3pqyfIk.html Blessings, RLS
@hollymills4096
@hollymills4096 Ай бұрын
Hey as a Flat Earther that’s a low blow but that’s ok, Globers are Christians too 😊
@_thisismeisthatyou9277
@_thisismeisthatyou9277 Ай бұрын
During the liturgy in the Anglican church the priest breaks rhe break and states "Hallelujah, Christ our Passover has been sacrificed for us" and we respond "therefore let us keep the feast, Hallelujah" Christians do keep passover every week and especially Holy Week. I used to be HRM but i have discovered that the historical church follows and reads more of the Bible than HRM.
@coreybassard
@coreybassard Ай бұрын
😂😂 whoa, you got me cracking up with the “99 problems” line. Haha Thanks for this video.
@messiahcomplex1126
@messiahcomplex1126 Ай бұрын
Psalms 119:53 Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law.
@coreybassard
@coreybassard Ай бұрын
@@messiahcomplex1126 Praise God that He’s written it on our hearts!
@messiahcomplex1126
@messiahcomplex1126 Ай бұрын
@@coreybassard amen ❤️ I don’t know too many people that have it in their hearts though. I’m sure David was talking about the people that do not walk in His ways, my life has been destroyed by people that do not.
@educational4434
@educational4434 24 күн бұрын
​@@messiahcomplex1126In other words, you feel it in your conscience when you transgress the law and are eventually moved to repentance each time, or over time
@messiahcomplex1126
@messiahcomplex1126 24 күн бұрын
@@educational4434 except I know I can’t trust my conscience per Jer 17:9 and like Paul said I wouldn’t know what sin was except for the Torah.
@interrupts165
@interrupts165 Ай бұрын
See how easy the truth destroys all those lies. Good job with the video.
@EnHacore1
@EnHacore1 Ай бұрын
Excellent response to the Hebrews movement. Thank you for the effort put in making these videos
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
@EnHacore1 just an FYI guy, he did not properly represent most all HRM peoples.
@teakoettel
@teakoettel Ай бұрын
Well done Brother Solberg, yet again
@Onewaytruth86
@Onewaytruth86 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS!
@joshuamelton9148
@joshuamelton9148 Ай бұрын
Very informative as always. The Presuppositions of the Hebrew roots is flaw.
@chdreaddude
@chdreaddude Ай бұрын
We got! 99 problems but that Torah ain’t one! ☝️ 😂❤
@messiahcomplex1126
@messiahcomplex1126 Ай бұрын
Psalms 119:53 Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy Torah.
@chdreaddude
@chdreaddude Ай бұрын
@@messiahcomplex1126 hey friend! What exactly do you mean? I just don’t totally understand what that verse is referring to
@messiahcomplex1126
@messiahcomplex1126 Ай бұрын
@@chdreaddude hi, what I mean is, to put it simply, all the evil that happens in this world is due to people not following The Creators instructions. I’ve had some very bad things done to my family so this verse really hits home with me. Blessings to you ❤️
@chdreaddude
@chdreaddude Ай бұрын
@@messiahcomplex1126 blessings to you too! Thanks for that explanation and I’m sorry for your hurt! Praise God for freedom in Christ! Blessings brother
@messiahcomplex1126
@messiahcomplex1126 Ай бұрын
@@chdreaddude amen and thank you, it all worked together for good , He used it all as a catalyst to wake me up from my stupor. He’s been so faithful to restore my life since I started walking the narrow path with Messiah and striving to enter in at the straight gate ❤️
@caonexpeguero9984
@caonexpeguero9984 Ай бұрын
Man, you're good. Very talented. Congrats!
@SmellyTennisBawls
@SmellyTennisBawls 25 күн бұрын
Some of these questions are so condescending it hurts. HRM is so full of elitism it’s amazing they can’t see it. I have friends that are deep in, but thankfully can call them brothers/sisters in Christ. For people that are so legalistic it’s also amazing how much they lack in grace/and joy in freedom.
@davbra12
@davbra12 Ай бұрын
Outstanding video, Professor!! Thank you for the work you do! Keep them coming. I appreciate the apologetics. Shalom!
@josephlarrew
@josephlarrew Ай бұрын
That's what so many of the HRM people do. If you provide some sort of defense or point that contradicts theirs, they seem to think you're defending everything the church does. So frustrating.
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
@josephlarrew back at Ha joseph! You christanity-ism do the exact Same thing to US peoples that See the wisdom in Torah!
@friscoj68
@friscoj68 Ай бұрын
Thank God for your knowledge and passion in this area Brother Solberg. I have been in the trenches in opposing the erroneous doctrines that form the core of the HRM for over five years. You are a source of inspiration and a wealth of information. To use a biblical saying, you truly have shown the patience of Job. I have to say I have been personally affected by the HRM. My will is starting to fade and my energy low. I find the entrenched position of a lot of the followers of this Torah-keeping sect and their anger against those who don't share their beliefs kind of scary. I've been constantly verbally abused and had direct violence threatened toward me. They have their 12-15 talking points and really won't engage in any real debate. A couple of bible verses are starting to come to mind: Titus 3:9 (NIV) But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. Matthew 7:6 (NIV) Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Is it required of a believer to honor their Mother and Father ?
@PreachForJesus
@PreachForJesus Ай бұрын
Amen, thank you, brother. God bless.
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Is it required of a believer to not steal from their neighbor?
@henryjordan9453
@henryjordan9453 9 күн бұрын
I’m a messianic Jew who try’s to obey the Torah I view it not as a requirement but I view as a privilege
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Is it permissible for a believer to not take the name of the Lord in vain?
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Is it permissible for a believer to anticipate the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus though it has already taken place ?
@ShroudedinLove
@ShroudedinLove Ай бұрын
👏🏻 you are very thorough as always. I wanted to add that i believe that Jesus did fulfill all law, but the fall feasts are not yet fulfilled ✝️🙏🏼💟
@dmoffitt1914
@dmoffitt1914 19 күн бұрын
I have a simple but two-part question... If I ask Paul what should I do to receive eternal life? What would be his answer? Now with that answer in mind... If I ask Jesus, what should I do to receive eternal life? What would his answer be?
@dancingzolins6782
@dancingzolins6782 14 күн бұрын
Paul: Romans 2:7, Romans 5:21, Romans 6:22-23, Jesus: John 3:14-16, John 3:36, John 5:24, John 6:40,47
@dmoffitt1914
@dmoffitt1914 14 күн бұрын
@@dancingzolins6782 surprised you didn't add Luke 18:18-27 or Matthew 19:16-26.
@dancingzolins6782
@dancingzolins6782 14 күн бұрын
@@dmoffitt1914 They were too obvious. 🙂
@dmoffitt1914
@dmoffitt1914 14 күн бұрын
@@dancingzolins6782 😁
@leroybroun4106
@leroybroun4106 Ай бұрын
@TheBiblicalRoots Regarding #4-"Everlasting Law", Mat 5:17-18 says the law will not pass away "...until it is fulfilled". Also, a fulfilled contract can still be everlasting: 1) it exists as Active while it is being executed and 2) it exists as Inactive when all terms have been fulfilled. For example, my past mortgage contracts still exist as a matter of record but since i've paid off the balance (fulfilled it) i am NOT continuing to make those mortgage payment, that would be silly, the bank would send my payments back with a reminder that that contract has been fulfilled.
@king_____geo273
@king_____geo273 Ай бұрын
So is it the same way you would fulfill your dreams
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
Doesn't tale much of an IQ to understand that one is the Old Covenant and the other is the New Covenant. The Mosaic law was conditional and Israel broke it.
@leroybroun4106
@leroybroun4106 Ай бұрын
@@king_____geo273 not sure if ur just being light and funny, if u r it did make me smile. if ur not, a dream is not a contract. those u can fulfill anyway u want, i guess.
@king_____geo273
@king_____geo273 Ай бұрын
@@leroybroun4106 fulfill is fulfil anyway you look at it, even when a contract is fulfilled isn't the contact still valid or in existence,it is not forgotten or insignificant. Is that funny?
@leroybroun4106
@leroybroun4106 Ай бұрын
@@king_____geo273 that's not funny, just irrational. go ahead and live out that idea. continue to pay for stuff you already paid in full, just don't hack my bank account.
@sundayciscero
@sundayciscero Ай бұрын
This was great simple perfect responses to Hebrew roots questions that give clarity to what can be confusing and contradictory for many including myself not too long ago
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
@sundayciscero it's called babble talk, from Babylon. All Man languages is influancers of His Own Biascies. For 2000 years man has been in control over bible language. Be careful. Sin One of Man tells the whole story, Thy Deciever Job is to get Man to NOT Follow Most Highs Instructions!
@jaimeandmatt
@jaimeandmatt Ай бұрын
I really appreciate your videos and wonder if you’ve ever done a thoughtful response to @Truthunedited ? I can’t quite place what this channel is exactly but I feel like Hebrew Roots plays a large part in its theology. Thoughts?
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
Hi, Jaime and Matt! I have not responded to any of their teachings as of yet. But based on the statement of faith on their website, they do appear to be Hebrew Roots. The statement includes this: "We believe that we are redeemed to YAHUAH by the Law of Moses, but through belief in Yahusha the Messiah, we are all born again believers that live by the Grace of YAH." Blessings, RLS
@milkeggsnproducemilkeggsnp9076
@milkeggsnproducemilkeggsnp9076 Ай бұрын
Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath. Jesus is our sabbath rest. This appears to be biblical to me.
@bringstolight
@bringstolight Ай бұрын
Do you still eat bread and drink water? Because Jesus the bread of life and the living water.
@Mikhael1964
@Mikhael1964 Ай бұрын
So basically you are right about Sabbath, and the WHOLE of Christendom, Christianity, AND Jesus,Apostles, Church fathers, Christians AND the most world renowned Theologians, Bible Scholars etc for 2000 years have got it ALL wrong and therefore it's been WRONG of them to keep the Sabbath for 2000 years.,teach the Sabbath, proclaim the Sabbath for Christians Christendom ,Christianity....etc... wow are you a prophet? I doubt it.. more like a friend of satan ..
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
@milkeggsnproducemilkeggsnp9076 AND AS SABBITH LORD I DECREE TO TAKE THE 7TH DAY SABBITH AWAY, as it is Not Written no where in Thy Scriptures!
@SDsc0rch
@SDsc0rch Ай бұрын
pre-emptive thumbs up -- I know its gunna be good : )
@l1Experiment
@l1Experiment Ай бұрын
Same here
@Jeff-xt7xs
@Jeff-xt7xs Ай бұрын
I'm not a Christian, Christianity is a worldly false religion like all the others who teach lawlessness. i'll pas on this fruitless religion. Do this experiment.... go down to where all the homeless are at in every city and count the Christians ministering to them, You won't have to do much counting.
@ST52655
@ST52655 Ай бұрын
Same here
@gregmahler9506
@gregmahler9506 Ай бұрын
This is one of your best videos on this topic. God bless you!
@messengerisrael3817
@messengerisrael3817 Ай бұрын
WHAT GOD , THE GOD OF THE TORAH ?
@gregmahler9506
@gregmahler9506 Ай бұрын
The God of Jesus.
@messengerisrael3817
@messengerisrael3817 Ай бұрын
@@gregmahler9506 WHAT YOU MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND , THE ONE YOU CALL JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONE WHO GAVE MAN THE TORAH . JOHN 1:1-3,14, 1.In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14.And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. THE WORD IS THE ONE WHO CREATED ALL THINGS ( INCLUDING MAN ) , AND HE IS THE ONE WHO CAME IN THE FLESH WITH THE NAME JESUS ; WHICH WAS NOT HIS NAME AT THE TIME HE GAVE THE TORAH TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL . JOHN 5:43 , I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. THE ONE YOU CALL JESUS CAME IN THE FATHER'S NAME , BUT WHAT WAS HIS NAMES AND TITLES AT THE TIME OF ABRAHAM , ISAAC , JACOB , AND THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL ( JEHOVAH , YAHWEH , ISRAEL , I AM , THE GOD OF ABRAHAM , ISAAC AND JACOB , THE BRANCH , MELCHIZEDEK , ETC... ) ? DID THE FATHER GIVE THE TORAH TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL ? JOHN 5:37 , And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. THE ONE WHO GAVE THE TORAH TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAELL WAS THE ONE WHO WOULD LATER COME IN THE FLESH , WITH THE NAME JESUS . UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE GOVERNMENT OF GOD ; WHICH REQUIRE THE ATONEMENT FOR SIN , WHICH GOES THROUGH A PRIESTHOOD ; WHICH WAS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION ( ADAM ) . GENESIS 1:26 , And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. GENESIS 14:18 , And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. ONE OF THE NAMES AND TITLE OF THIS GOD THAT CREATED ALL THINGS IS MELCHIZEDEK ; WHICH HAST INTERCEDED FOR MAN FROM THE BEGINNING THROUGH FAITH , TO THE OTHER GOD WE NOW CALL THE FATHER . SHALOM !
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Is it permissible for a believer to not murder their brother?
@JojoOzfan
@JojoOzfan 20 күн бұрын
The fact that they have two little girls asking these questions in this documentary doesn't sit well with me. Cults often target the most vulnerable. Good job on rebuking the Hebrew Roots Movement, brother Solberg.
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots 20 күн бұрын
That jumped out at me, too! In fact, I almost didn't include the questions from the children for that reason. But, since their parents had already used them publicly in this trailer and the accompanying documentary, I kept them in. RLS
@JojoOzfan
@JojoOzfan 20 күн бұрын
@@TheBiblicalRoots True. Their parents are probably part of this movement and so those poor children have been indoctrinated into believing this is the truth when it's not. I hope and pray though that those children and their families do get to know the true gospel of the true Christ, though
@scotthield8125
@scotthield8125 Ай бұрын
Amen
@WeThePeople9069
@WeThePeople9069 Ай бұрын
Anyone noticed the bright light starting at 37:17? 🤔
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see if some of these kids will be able to come out of Torahism once indoctrinated 😢
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
🪤
@solitairecat1
@solitairecat1 Ай бұрын
Judging from some of the comments it appears they have been made blind by returning to the law, like the Scribes and Pharisees.
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
@@solitairecat1 Yes, Paul's caveat seems to be in effect: "But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away." ~ 2 Corinthians 3 : 14-16
@solitairecat1
@solitairecat1 Ай бұрын
@@kimartist Perfect verse! Thank you
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
@@kimartist we all were Blind until God opened our Minds. However God uses Cults and false churches to keep the Goats out of His Bride
@TheRevelationDeception
@TheRevelationDeception Ай бұрын
They're not following Jesus but Moses who they place their expectancy. J5.45 "Do not deem that I, yea I, will accuse you to the Father; Moses is the one accusing you, into whom you have taken expectancy."
@jacobsilverberg1329
@jacobsilverberg1329 Ай бұрын
Romans 14:5, Someone considers a day above another and is justified if observed with the Lord in mind. Spoken to the Romans, where I think the feast of Saturnalia originated. Could that day be any better than the Wiccan? Yet it is now Christmas. So I think the passage allows observing any day, and apparently the early church agreed, so long as you understand that it is to the Lord.
@blindvision4703
@blindvision4703 Ай бұрын
Do these guys care more about the 10 Commandments or 10 Contradictions? Lol! Keep up the good work, sir!
@educational4434
@educational4434 24 күн бұрын
The answer to 10:53 where the young man asks: "Why did Peter still not eat anything unclean even though Jesus said all foods are clean?" is that Jesus did not declare all foods clean. Eating meat sacrificed to idols is still unclean. Eating rats and swine flesh is still physically, health-wise, unclean. He was talking about spiritual uncleanness. And the scope of what he was discussing was limited to a certain context. Why do I say it was limited? Because he declares later in Revelation that eating meat sacrificed to idols is sin. So does eating swine flesh and rats make you spiritually unclean according to Jesus? No. Does it make you unhealthy and your body physically unclean? Yes. Were those laws given for more reasons than just separating the Israelites from the nations that surrounded them? Were those health laws given out of concern for the health of the people he was guiding? Yes. Do those health laws support our health in this modern age even as Gentile Christians? Yes. So there is a difference between spiritual uncleanness with regard to food and physical uncleanness with regard to food. The bottom line is: if you want optimal health, follow the dietary laws. And if you wish to not sin with regard to food, do not be gluttonous and do not eat meat sacrificed to idols or consume blood or meat with blood in it (the red juice that comes out of red meat is not blood, by the way.
@Mikhael1964
@Mikhael1964 23 күн бұрын
At last, someone talking sense. Most importantly Biblical Hermeneutical,contextual,and exegetical sense..Amen 🙏
@educational4434
@educational4434 21 күн бұрын
@@Mikhael1964 Thank you, brother. Peace be with you 🕊️
@vernmiroth1626
@vernmiroth1626 Ай бұрын
"...they derogatorily refer to the church as "churchianity"..." So I'm sure in your view that term you coined "Torahism " is not meant derogatorily?
@FeastDayFaith
@FeastDayFaith Ай бұрын
Exactly. Professor Solberg would have you believe he is tolerant and has no qualms with keeping the Torah, feast days, and Sabbath. But his tone and language indicate otherwise
@randylundgren8421
@randylundgren8421 Ай бұрын
I see the law as at least two parts, the commandments and the curses. Jesus removed the curse of the law by his sacrifice, leaving the commandments, which if they would have had the faith of Abraham, they would have kept. Sometimes when Paul mentions the law I believe that he is referring to the commandments, the law is spiritual. Other times he is obviously referring to the curse of the law. The old covenant was the law of sin and death.(the law of breaking the commandment, and receiving the curse). The new covenant is the law of sin and forgiveness. (the law of breaking the commandment, and not receiving the curse, but forgiveness). So I agree that the commandments are not required for salvation, but I do believe that it is still his will that we keep them. This is an example of how I understand it. He gives us instructions, because we love and trust him we endeavor to follow his instructions. But when we mess up, he'll forgive us, we're no longer under the curse of the law. On the other hand if we refuse to follow his instructions, we're non of his because we have no faith. Just the way I see it.
@chrisart4you
@chrisart4you Ай бұрын
If you say that God made a covenant with a believer, that means we responsibe in some way to obtain some rightousness of our own as an acceptance with God. This is not our standing. God put the believer in His Son and then we are made the Righteous of God in Him. Its called entering into His rest.
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Please explain how you can both be “delivered from the law” (Ro 7:6) and “serve the law” (Ro 7:25) at the same time ?
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
Hi Michael. “We serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭7‬:‭6‬
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
@@TheBiblicalRoots So the Spirit helps us keep the very law that He delivered us from ?
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
@@michaelbrutsche75 "If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law." (Gal. 5:18). "To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law. To those outside the law I became as one outside the law (not being outside the law of God but under the law of Christ) that I might win those outside the law." (1 Cor. 9:20-21) RLS
@leslieahill8928
@leslieahill8928 Ай бұрын
Galatians 3:5 KJ21 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit and worketh miracles among you, doeth He it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith ❓️ 🤔 Many spirit stifling denominations henceforth take note! Yet if you are eating non clean meats use the meat thermometer . I worked in a resturant and ...😵‍💫
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Your contradicting yourself. Your saying that it is both permissible and a blatant declaration of not trusting in the sacrifice of Jesus to observe the shadow of Colossians 2. The reason the sabbath of Colossians 2 is a shadow is because it contained sacrifices that represented the sacrifice of Jesus.
@theresathompson2322
@theresathompson2322 7 күн бұрын
The Bible says "Sin is the transgression of the law." What Law?
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots 6 күн бұрын
The Law of God. Sin is disobeying whatever commands God has given to you. RLS
@notsatch
@notsatch Ай бұрын
On a slightly lighter note, imagine the outcry from PETA if everyone in the HRM built altars in their yards and started doing animal sacrifices, not to mention the concerns of their neighbors and more than a handful of municipalities! BTW, I finally broke down and ordered Torahism today. Looking forward to reading it.
@freedominchrist444
@freedominchrist444 Ай бұрын
The Way so misrepresents biblical Christianity. I have the dvd and I have seen what they post on church doors on reformation day. I read part of their book and honestly the author has little knowledge of basic Christianity, basic principals of heremenutics. He claims his book is apologetic book for the doctrines of the torah movement. Very poor arguments. I do not think he has any understanding of true apologetics at all. If I was still part of the torah movement I would be embarrased by his book (that I could not even finish) that claims to be an apologetic for the torah movement.
@beckyfrechette4439
@beckyfrechette4439 Ай бұрын
The Way documentary was originally going to be ALL about circumcision! Literally promoting it! They were advised against it and instead, just included a segment where this guy talks about how he circumcised HIMSELF in his bath tub! Well, he ended up in the ER and the psych unit🤦‍♀️ He was laughing as he told the story. I had bought the download version of the documentary as soon as it was released and watched it right away, however, when I watched it months later at a gathering, it did not notice that segment. I believe they edited it out when it came out on DVD. Incredibly dangerous and irresponsible of them to have included that segment and a blatant disregard of scripture in general regarding the topic of circumcision!
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
😮 These people are crazy.
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
@beckyfrechette4439 really? sounds like a story your telling,
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
@kimartist crazy for Thy Word! Thanks Religion man.
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
​@@6969smurfy Convince us by telling us your conversion story (if you have one, which is doubtful).
@elijahirvin5911
@elijahirvin5911 16 күн бұрын
Luke 6-46.
@karlcooke3197
@karlcooke3197 Ай бұрын
Where does the Bible you can have any day as Sabbath?
@freedominchrist444
@freedominchrist444 Ай бұрын
The bible says sabbath was a sign between Israel and God under the Mosaic covenant. We are under a covenant. The sabbath was only given to ancient Israel under the temporary Mosaic covenant. Context is king.
@mv3261
@mv3261 Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ is the complete fulfillment of the Sabbath, offering a spiritual rest that transcends the physical observance of one day a week. 1. Matthew 11:28-30 - Jesus says, "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." - This passage highlights the rest that Jesus offers to those who come to Him, implying a rest from the labor of trying to Jewish rites and keeping of the Law. If it was possible for man to keep the law perfectly sacrifices were not necessary and Christ did not need to die or establish a new covenant for that matter. 2. Hebrews 4:9-10: - "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God's rest has also rested from his works (keeping the law = self-righteousness) as God rested from his work (in continuous sense)" - Here, the author of Hebrews explains that believers enter into a spiritual rest through faith in Jesus, paralleling God’s rest after creation. You are resting in salvation and in His redemption and new covenant everyday nonstop! There for Sabbath observance is allowed, and physical rest beneficial, but no longer required unto salvation and right standing with God. 3.Colossians 2:16-17: - "Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ." - This passage teaches that the Sabbath and other ceremonial laws were a shadow pointing to Christ, who fulfills their true meaning. The law can only chase a man to calvary, and no further. 4. Romans 10:4: - "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." - Christ's coming brings an end to the Law as a means of attaining righteousness, which includes the Sabbath laws. We are saved by faith and by faith alone, not of our works so that no man can boast in his own ability, that is self-righteous. Good works and good fruit is not unto salvation, but is a result of our salvation, being filled and led by the Holy Spirit, grafted into Jesus Christ. 5. Galatians 3:24-25: - "So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian." - The Law, including the Sabbath (sign of covenant with the tribes of Israel), served as a guide until Christ, but now everyone from all nations (pas ethnos) who comes to faith in Christ are justified by faith and not by the works of the Law. These scriptures collectively teach that Jesus fulfills the Sabbath by offering a deeper, spiritual rest and freedom from the works of the Law, inviting believers to rest in His finished work on the cross.
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
Hebrews 4 says "Today" is the Sabbath rest for those who enter in. Every day is "today."
@Mikhael1964
@Mikhael1964 Ай бұрын
​@@freedominchrist444With respect Sir, you are wrong..The Word of God makes it expressly clear that Sabbath observance is a special sign or “mark” between God and his creation . Yes God instituted the Sabbath at creation and designated the seventh day to be kept holy. “And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made” (Genesis 2:2-3). There was no one labelled Jews, Israelites, gentiles back then . Also ; Do you know fr the last 2000 years ALL of Christianity worldwide have kept the Sabbath day holy. Even all the world's greatest Theologians and Bible Scholars agreed with keeping Sabbath. There is also no uncertainty that Christ, His disciples, and the first-century Christians kept the seventh-day Sabbath as commanded (Mark 2:28; Luke 4:16). Yet all of a sudden,2000 years later, people like you come up with a new teaching that Sabbath is abolished! Jesus said I AM the Lord of the Sabbath , In other words Sabbath not abolished, as He is GOD .. Do you know what I AM means? Jesus rebuked the Pharisees fr keeping,and teaching man made traditional oral Sabbath teachings.. Those extra sabbath teachings are now in the Jewish Talmud ..
@mv3261
@mv3261 Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ is the fulfilment of the Sabbath, offering a spiritual rest that transcends the physical observance of one day a week. Matthew 11:28-30 Jesus says, "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." This passage highlights the rest that Jesus offers to those who come to Him, implying a rest from the labour of trying to keep and observe the Law. If keeping the law could save us, then animal sacrifices would remain sufficient, and Christ's death and resurrection would be in vain. Hebrews 4:9-10 "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God's rest has also rested from his works as God did from his." Here, the author of Hebrews explains that believers enter an eternal spiritual rest through faith in Jesus, paralleling God’s rest after creation. Those who did not believe did not enter the promised land. God's rest is also in continues state, and so is our redemption and salvation, which is a continuous state every day. The Holy Spirit is our guarantee of purchase, God's stamp of approval and sign of the covenant, replacing physical circumcision or esteeming one day over another. Although rest and circumcision might have physical benefits, keeping them is allowed but no longer required under God's new covenant. 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 "Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come." Ephesians 1:13-14 "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory." 2 Corinthians 5:5 "Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come." These passages affirm that the Holy Spirit is given to believers as a guarantee or a deposit, signifying God's promise, ensuring our future inheritance and eternal rest in Christ under the new covenant. Colossians 2:16-17 "Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ." This passage teaches that the Sabbath and other ceremonial laws were a shadow pointing to Christ, who fulfils their true meaning. Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." Christ's death, burial, and resurrection established the end of the Law and the old covenant as a means of attaining righteousness, which includes the Sabbath laws and establishes a new priesthood under a new covenant of grace and faith called God’s Israel (Galatians 6:15-16). Therefore, the old law remains applicable to anyone outside of the new covenant through Christ Jesus, including the unsaved and those who have no part in the body of Christ! 1 Timothy 1:8-11 "Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted." This passage emphasizes that the law is good when used lawfully, with the purpose to point out our sinful condition, making our sin exceedingly sinful in God’s sight, declaring everyone punishable by God. The Law is meant to guide our behaviour and to convict us of sin, highlighting the need for grace and a redeemer. Galatians 3:24-25 "So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian." The Law, including the Sabbath, pointed us to Christ Jesus and the new covenant, but now believers are justified by faith and not by the works of the Law or their own abilities. There is no more place for the old covenant for those who were purchased and brought under the new covenant. John 15:1-5 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." This passage teaches that Christ is the true vine into which believers are grafted, signifying their union with Him and their dependence on Him for spiritual life, fruitfulness, and salvation. Furthermore, the concept of being grafted into Christ, the true vine, underscores the intimate relationship, continues rest and unity believers have with Him, highlighting their complete dependence on Him for spiritual sustenance, growth, righteousness, and eternal rest. Believers in Christ will bear good fruit and good works because they are saved and changed. Christ also keeps us, not the other way around, where we do good works in order to gain favour or keep our salvation. If we could lose our salvation, we would, and God, who loves us, knows this. Therefore, He kept it very simple yet amazing, He is the author and the keeper of our faith. To rest, to be circumcised, and to worship God on a specific day might be beneficial since the Sabbath was made for man unto a sign of promise. However, these things are no longer required under the new covenant where Christ Jesus is our high priest, the manifested promise, and the Holy Spirit is our sign of covenant. We are saved by our faith, through grace; it is the gift from God, not of our works, so that no man can boast in his own ability or his own doing. Our best efforts are as filthy rags before our Holy and Just God. Attempting to bribe God with our works of self-righteousness is not scriptural, and our God is not bribed by men. Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
@dmoffitt1914
@dmoffitt1914 19 күн бұрын
I'm not understanding. It seems hypocritical because Christianity is somewhat doing the same thing, in regards to the optionality. They just used the word torahism, legalism and heresy.
@slavicstriz8715
@slavicstriz8715 Ай бұрын
!
@beckyfrechette4439
@beckyfrechette4439 Ай бұрын
Paul actually spent a total of 17 YEARS away from Jerusalem!
@educational4434
@educational4434 24 күн бұрын
I have a question (it's a simple question, but it does require some foundations be laid down first): If there is no sin apart from the law, and the earlier offspring of Adam who went on to form the kingdom's leading up to Noah's flood were incredibly sinful from our perspective and God's perspective, and given the fact that yes, angelic beings had sex with human women and produced monstrous giant offspring called the Nephilim which corrupted both the genetic makeup of humankind and then went on to corrupt the genetic makeup of the animal kingdom by creating monstrous chimera creations thereby requiring the flood to wipe it all out and reset, why then, simultaneously, was mankind wiped out also because of the violence everywhere and the fact that every inclination of people's hearts was evil continually, given the fact there was no law of Moses that they were under? Because remember, Paul says that apart from the law there is no sin. Those people were apart from the law of Moses which wouldn't be given for a long time. So then why were they judged for transgressing a law that was not made explicit to them given the fact that they were not under a law yet and there is no sin apart from the law? Or alternatively, is the answer simply that though there was violence and though the hearts of humankind were thinking about evil acts continually, was the flood sent simply because the Nephilim had corrupted the earth? Because why would God wipe out the earth for transgressing laws that they've never even been given, considering the fact that apart from the law there is no sin? Because remember, not only were they not under the law, but they had been committing these acts for something like 1,500 years a no flood had been sent.
@TheRevelationDeception
@TheRevelationDeception Ай бұрын
7:10 The word poorly translated "everlasting" as well as forever and eternal, is the Greek noun "aion." found 62x in the singular and 62x in the plural. It defines either 1 eon or multiple eons. Eons are time-termed with defined beginnings and endings as seen with the adjective aionios in R16:25; Titus 1:2. Eons are represented in the biblical threefold representation of the "heavens and earth." Gn1.2 describes what the heavens and earth of old BECAME before the present eon started new in Gn1:3. The eons are representation as outlined in 2 Peter 3:5-13. 1 Eon = Heavens and earth out of old (the then cosmos) 2P3:5; Gn1.1 1 Eon = Heavens and earth now present 2P3:7; Gn1:3, the same "evil eon" of G1:4. 1 Eon = New Heavens and earth 2P3:13; Isa65:17; 66:22. The failure for most Christians to understand this simple truth has created a plethorah of false doctrines.and confusion. I might add that in the new heavens and earth, we see an underremnant "seed" and "name" celebrating feasts of newals and sabbath celebrations (Isa66:22). It is my understanding that these are those of Matthew 25:41 AFTER the judgment of that prepared for the left-named which in Greek literally means "well-named." hence "and so will stand your SEED and your NAME" Isa66:22. The seed is UNDERremnant Israel of R9:27 where the right hand is heightened to completed the non-handmade temple Mk14:56.
@vernmiroth1626
@vernmiroth1626 Ай бұрын
Question 7 is an especially egregious example of what Solberg is consistent about. He claims it is the questions that are not very well thought out..yet his answer is extremely brief and superficial
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
We can see in Hebrews 11 that the promises were not yet received (Hebrews 11:13,39) and that we with them will receive the promises. V-40
@johnkumah3095
@johnkumah3095 8 күн бұрын
The Law is a total 613 commandments. They won't be able to to fulfil it all even if they tried.
@pierreferguson1300
@pierreferguson1300 Ай бұрын
Torahism 101 = Hebrews 7:11 = Matthew 5:43 and Matthew 22:37-39 (Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18). Christianity 101 = Hebrews 7:12 = Matthew 5:44 and John 13:34 (Galatians 5:22; 1 Corinthians 13). The one who has ears, let him hear. You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you?
@byronshipp3454
@byronshipp3454 25 күн бұрын
Romans 3:31 speaks against most of what you are defending.
@johnmann8659
@johnmann8659 19 күн бұрын
@byronshipp3454 Those that have the law (Romans 9:4) are to uphold the law (Romans 3:31 -> Malachi 4:4-6).
@hollymills4096
@hollymills4096 Ай бұрын
Glad someone is debunking this anti-Christ teaching
@TheRevelationDeception
@TheRevelationDeception Ай бұрын
27:10 The parable of the grain and darnel in Matthew 13 shows that the grain (sons of the regency) = the grass of the field" Mt6.30; L12.28. Jesus said "the field is the world/cosmos" Mt13:38 where Peter states "ALL FLESH is as grass..." 1P1.24. The context of the segregating grain from darnel points to Matthew 25:32 where we have to pay attention. Here we also read BOTH those of the nations are being segregated "JUST AS the herdsman segregate the sheep (Israel) from the kids.." Sheep is a figure specific to Israel Mt10:6; 15:24. The herdsman are those of the courtyard of John 10:1 to herd the other sheep of verse 16 when at the same term the nations are also being lead into the finishing of the right hand. The point being is that even the parable of Matthew 13 and 25 show that Jesus was not limiting the context to only Israelites but the grass of the field including ALL flesh 🙏
@jimharmon2300
@jimharmon2300 Ай бұрын
Noah knew clean from unclean animals when he loaded the Ark . GOD did not have to repeat to Noah what was clean and unclean because Noah knew . Like Peter with the sheet . He did not eat because he knew what GOD had commanded earlier. Peter wondered on the vision . The sheet was let down three times and Three gentiles came to the door . Peter then knew the meaning of the vision .
@freedominchrist444
@freedominchrist444 Ай бұрын
Noah was also told in Gen 9 he could eat any animal(the part torah folk skip and ignore)
@freedominchrist444
@freedominchrist444 Ай бұрын
And in the Hebrew it means any/all animals
@jimharmon2300
@jimharmon2300 Ай бұрын
@@freedominchrist444 Genesis 7:2 (KJV) Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female. Maybe Noah wasn’t as dumb as people are today , GOD did not have to repeat HIS words or commands .
@joshuamelton9148
@joshuamelton9148 Ай бұрын
Dietary laws is not an universal law given to all nations and for all people groups for all times.
@jimharmon2300
@jimharmon2300 Ай бұрын
@@joshuamelton9148 Agree But it is the law of the sons of GOD . Wither you are a natural born or adopted.
@mv3261
@mv3261 Ай бұрын
Jesus Christ is the fulfilment of the Sabbath, offering a spiritual rest that transcends the physical observance of one day a week. Matthew 11:28-30 Jesus says, "Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." This passage highlights the rest that Jesus offers to those who come to Him, implying a rest from the labour of trying to keep and observe the Law. If keeping the law could save us, then animal sacrifices would remain sufficient, and Christ's death and resurrection would be in vain. Hebrews 4:9-10 "So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God's rest has also rested from his works as God did from his." Here, the author of Hebrews explains that believers enter an eternal spiritual rest through faith in Jesus, paralleling God’s rest after creation. Those who did not believe did not enter the promised land. God's rest is also in continues state, and so is our redemption and salvation, which is a continuous state every day. The Holy Spirit is our guarantee of purchase, God's stamp of approval and sign of the covenant, replacing physical circumcision or esteeming one day over another. Although rest and circumcision might have physical benefits, keeping them is allowed but no longer required under God's new covenant. 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 "Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come." Ephesians 1:13-14 "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory." 2 Corinthians 5:5 "Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come." These passages affirm that the Holy Spirit is given to believers as a guarantee or a deposit, signifying God's promise, ensuring our future inheritance and eternal rest in Christ under the new covenant. Colossians 2:16-17 "Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ." This passage teaches that the Sabbath and other ceremonial laws were a shadow pointing to Christ, who fulfils their true meaning. Romans 10:4 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." Christ's death, burial, and resurrection established the end of the Law and the old covenant as a means of attaining righteousness, which includes the Sabbath laws and establishes a new priesthood under a new covenant of grace and faith called God’s Israel (Galatians 6:15-16). Therefore, the old law remains applicable to anyone outside of the new covenant through Christ Jesus, including the unsaved and those who have no part in the body of Christ! 1 Timothy 1:8-11 "Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted." This passage emphasizes that the law is good when used lawfully, with the purpose to point out our sinful condition, making our sin exceedingly sinful in God’s sight, declaring everyone punishable by God. The Law is meant to guide our behaviour and to convict us of sin, highlighting the need for grace and a redeemer. Galatians 3:24-25 "So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian." The Law, including the Sabbath, pointed us to Christ Jesus and the new covenant, but now believers are justified by faith and not by the works of the Law or their own abilities. There is no more place for the old covenant for those who were purchased and brought under the new covenant. John 15:1-5 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. Already you are clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." This passage teaches that Christ is the true vine into which believers are grafted, signifying their union with Him and their dependence on Him for spiritual life, fruitfulness, and salvation. Furthermore, the concept of being grafted into Christ, the true vine, underscores the intimate relationship, continues rest and unity believers have with Him, highlighting their complete dependence on Him for spiritual sustenance, growth, righteousness, and eternal rest. Believers in Christ will bear good fruit and good works because they are saved and changed. Christ also keeps us, not the other way around, where we do good works in order to gain favour or keep our salvation. If we could lose our salvation, we would, and God, who loves us, knows this. Therefore, He kept it very simple yet amazing, He is the author and the keeper of our faith. To rest, to be circumcised, and to worship God on a specific day might be beneficial since the Sabbath was made for man unto a sign of promise. However, these things are no longer required under the new covenant where Christ Jesus is our high priest, the manifested promise, and the Holy Spirit is our sign of covenant. We are saved by our faith, through grace; it is the gift from God, not of our works, so that no man can boast in his own ability or his own doing. Our best efforts are as filthy rags before our Holy and Just God. Attempting to bribe God with our works of self-righteousness is not scriptural, and our God is not bribed by men. Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
@YahuahsTroops
@YahuahsTroops Ай бұрын
If Jesus is our sabbath why does He tell us to pray our flight is not on Sabbath, during the great tribulation?? Matthew 24:20 “And pray that your flight does not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. Matthew 24:21 “For then there shall be great distress, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Hebrews 4:11 Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest, lest anyone fall after the same example of disobedience. Why does the writer of Hebrews tell us those who do not enter into that rest are examples of disobedience?
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
​@@YahuahsTroops "Then let those who are in JUDEA flee to the mountains..." ~ Matthew 24:16
@YahuahsTroops
@YahuahsTroops Ай бұрын
@@kimartist hmm yes I can see where you are confused, cause it can seem like they were talking about that time when they fleed then However, if we diligently pay attention to what Jesus was commanding us in Matthew 24:20 about “pray that your flight is not on the sabbath” If we read the next verse, The very next verse after Matthew 24:20, which would be Matthew 24:21 -it’s says “For then there shall be great distress,such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.” So that being said, that has yet to happen -So if we listen to Jesus and what he commands us we should still at this very moment, be praying our flight is not on the sabbath or in winter -like he told us to in the verse above THUS, Jesus was implying the Sabbath day is still in effect. And it is for everyone, not just Jews. Maybe that’s why the 4th command is “remember” the sabbath day -cause He knew we would forget it Shalom and I pray our flight does not take place on the Sabbath or in Winter. Have a blessed day❤️
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
​@@YahuahsTroops You are a sloppy scholar. Matthew 26 : 20 says: "When evening came, Jesus was reclining at the table with the Twelve." Matthew 26 : 21 says: "And while they were eating, he said, 'Truly I tell you, one of you will betray me.'" Matthew 24 : 1 & 2 says: "Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings. 'Do you see all these things?' he asked. 'Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.'" Clearly Jesus is speaking of/prophesying about the soon-coming destruction of the Temple in Matthew 24. "Some, having fallen short of these things, have wandered away into senseless babble, wishing to be teachers of the law even though they do not understand either what they are saying or concerning what things they are so dogmatically asserting." ~ 1 Timothy 1: 6-7
@YahuahsTroops
@YahuahsTroops Ай бұрын
@@kimartist good thing I’m not a scholar and I am a child of our Heavenly Father. I’m not perfect and in need of a Savior, But I strive to be like He tells us too: Matthew 5:48 “Therefore, be perfect, as your Father in the heavens is perfect.” Thank you Yahuah through His son Yahusha for blessing the 7th day for us to rest. Have a blessed upcoming Sabbath ❤️
@gene4231
@gene4231 Ай бұрын
Thank you for another great podcast. BTW the new testament repeats 9 of the 10 commandments. The one about keeping the sabbath seems to be missing!!!😮
@mauricetravis868
@mauricetravis868 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@jimharmon2300
@jimharmon2300 Ай бұрын
Jesus took away nor added to any laws . Matthew 5:18 (KJV) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. His teachings were from the old scriptures not misunderstanding of Paul’s writings. If your teachings does not agree with the words of the Prophets you are not following Jesus nor The FATHER. You have created a false idol in your own heart by transforming Jesus into something that he is not .
@solitairecat1
@solitairecat1 Ай бұрын
@@jimharmon2300 And he said in verse 17 he came to fulfill the law.
@jimharmon2300
@jimharmon2300 Ай бұрын
@@solitairecat1 Read what Jesus said . He came to clarify not do away with or add to . Isaiah 30:1 (KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: You eat unclean meat . Then don’t honor the Sabbath. Then worship “ GOD The FATHER’s “ messenger . Jesus tells us about himself . What Jesus Came To Do Separate tares from the wheat Matthew 13:40 (KJV) As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. Did not come to send peace Matthew 10:34 (KJV) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Division Matthew 10:35 (KJV) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Luke 12:53 (KJV) The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. As you can see These things he has done . His assignment is fulfilled , finished. Matthew 12:50 (KJV) For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. He does not say he will be your GOD or replace the FATHER.
@jimharmon2300
@jimharmon2300 Ай бұрын
@@solitairecat1 Read what Jesus said . He came to clarify not do away with or add to . Isaiah 30:1 (KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: You eat unclean meat . Then don’t honor the Sabbath. Then worship “ GOD The FATHER’s “ messenger . Jesus tells us about himself . What Jesus Came To Do Separate tares from the wheat Matthew 13:40 (KJV) As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. Did not come to send peace Matthew 10:34 (KJV) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Division Matthew 10:35 (KJV) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Luke 12:53 (KJV) The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. As you can see These things he has done . His assignment is fulfilled , finished. Matthew 12:50 (KJV) For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. He does not say he will be your GOD or replace the FATHER. Think about this . You say he was fully human man and obeyed GOD The FATHER completely. Then on the other hand you say GOD’s laws are out of our reach . Jesus was a common man and he kept them ? You condemn your own self and so blinded you can’t see truth .
@jimharmon2300
@jimharmon2300 Ай бұрын
@@solitairecat1 Read what Jesus said . He came to clarify not do away with or add to . Isaiah 30:1 (KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: You eat unclean meat . Then don’t honor the Sabbath. Then worship “ GOD The FATHER’s “ messenger . Jesus tells us about himself . What Jesus Came To Do Separate tares from the wheat Matthew 13:40 (KJV) As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. Did not come to send peace Matthew 10:34 (KJV) Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Division Matthew 10:35 (KJV) For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Luke 12:53 (KJV) The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. As you can see These things he has done . His assignment is fulfilled , finished. Matthew 12:50 (KJV) For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. He does not say he will be your GOD or replace the FATHER. Think about this . You say he was fully human man and obeyed GOD The FATHER completely. Then on the other hand you say GOD’s laws are out of our reach . Jesus was a common man and he kept them ? You condemn your own self and so blinded you can’t see truth .
@solitairecat1
@solitairecat1 Ай бұрын
@@jimharmon2300 Matt 5:17 does say 'fulfill'. The Hebrew מלא means 'fill, full' (Strong's H4390). When Yahshua read Isaiah 61:1 proclaiming the favourable year of Yahweh, he said "today this scripture is fulfilled מלא in your hearing" Luke 4:16 - 21. He fulfilled Isa 42:1 as stated in Matt 12:18 "Here is My Servant, whom I have chosen, My beloved, in whom My soul delights. I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will proclaim justice to the nations." Yahshua fulfilling the law doesn't replace Yahweh as our Father, but provides the means by which we can stand before God blameless.
@chrisart4you
@chrisart4you Ай бұрын
God only made a covenant with the nation of Isreal. He never made a any covenant with any Gentiles. The New Testament was fulfilled by His obedience by the death on the cross. We enter into this covenant by faith in His blood. So Jesus filled the requirement with the Father by His sacrifice obtaining the forgiveness of sin. It is our faith in His blood that we are now declared righteous. It is not our responsibility to live the Christian life it is our response to His ability. It is not a law relationship but life relationship. Paul said I pray that you would know my mystery in Christ. Crist in you the hope of glory.
@dancingzolins6782
@dancingzolins6782 Ай бұрын
The Bible includes 8 Covenants: Edenic, Adamic, Noahic, Abrahamic, Mosaic, Land, Davidic, and New. The first three were made with all nations to come, i.e. Gentiles, as they were made before Israel existed. It could even be argued that the Abrahamic Covenant was made with a Gentile, as the nation of Israel (Jacob's descendants) came two generations later. Thus, it is inaccurate to say God never made any covenant with Gentiles.
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
All the above (re: dancingzollins) plus: Testament MEANS Covenant. Old Testament = Old Covenant. New Testament = New Covenant. Marriage is also a covenant. God considered Himself in a marriage covenant with faithless Israel who cheated on Him, i.e. they broke the marriage covenant, forcing Him to divorce.
@user-bz7ee4lk3f
@user-bz7ee4lk3f Ай бұрын
Excellent. Thank you again for your thoughtful, kind and correct rebuttal of this false teaching. Jesus + nothing= salvation. It is a gift. We are free from sin not free to sin. 🙌🏼🙏🏻✝️
@AndreColon
@AndreColon Ай бұрын
Listen to what Jesus tells his disciples ... Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@pierreferguson1300
@pierreferguson1300 Ай бұрын
Exodus 31:14 “Therefore you are to keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it must be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a Sabbath of complete rest [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3], holy to the Lord; whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.“ (NASB) Exodus 35:1 Then Moses assembled all the congregation of the sons of Israel, and said to them, “These are the things that the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 “For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day, a Sabbath of complete rest to the Lord [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3]; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.“ (NASB) Numbers 15:32 Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness [Heb. midbar], they found a man gathering wood on the Sabbath day [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3]. 33 And those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation; 34 and they placed him in custody, because it had not been decided what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must be put to death [Exodus 31:14-15; Exodus 35:1-2; Deuteronomy 27:26; Matthew 5:18]; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So all the congregation [Heb. edah] brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, just as the Lord had commanded Moses. (NASB) Matthew 5:18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!“ (NASB)
@lesliemagby8445
@lesliemagby8445 Ай бұрын
The comment you made about Peter eating with the gentiles did not prove that he was eating anything unclean. Didn’t Jesus eat with the gentiles? . That wasn’t a very good example. We are approaching a time when we will rule and reign with Christ and his Kingdoms instructions look much like they did from the very beginning. It looks like to me learning about and being trained for these things that we clearly will be keeping, would better set us up to rule and reign don’t you? I’m speaking of keeping the feast days and Sabbaths and New Moons.
@Th3Pr0digalS0n
@Th3Pr0digalS0n Ай бұрын
God NEVER told Peter (or anyone) to eat an unclean animal. Lets 👓 read 📖 Acts 10 "9 About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained ALL KINDS of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” 14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything COMMON or UNCLEAN.” 15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything COMMON that God has made CLEAN.” 16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven." First, all kinds of four footed animals 🦌 🐄 🐑 were on that sheet, including 🐦 birds. So there was a mix of clean and unclean together on the sheet. God instructed Peter to kill and eat, implying he make food. LEVITICUS 11 is clear what types of animals are food, and which are not. Therefore we know that God was telling Peter to "Kill and eat" a clean animal to satisfy his hunger. Second, Peter says he has never eaten anything common or unclean. We know unclean animals are ones not meant to be eaten by man, what are "common" animals? You will not find an explanation for this term in scripture, because it does not come from scripture. Common is a designation of Talmudic Rabbinic Judaism. It refers to any item that is usually acceptable for human use, but has come in contact with an unclean item, thus (according to them) is now tainted and unable to be touched or used by a righteous person on threat of becoming unclean themselves. So Peter seeing clean and unclean animals mixing together, and applying his talmudic teaching sees only Common and Unclean, nothing he can eat. This is why God repremands him. "Do not call common that which I have made clean" God was calling out the entire practice of designating animals, locations and People as common. God describes what is clean and unclean, the doctrine of men was keeping Peter from eating "common" food and preaching to "common" people. This vision was Gods way of removing that false doctrine and pushing Peter to mingle with gentiles who needed to hear truth. ♥️ Peter explains this later in the chapter, "28 He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean." -Bonus- Acts 10 is recording something that happened months or years after the Life, teaching, death & resurection of Yeshua... So why was Peter still refusing to eat "unclean" animals? He was there during the Mark 7:19 teaching. Therefore Yeshua NEVER declared unclean animals to be food, Otherwise Peter would have no problem digging in to a pork sandwich in Acts 10.
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
@Th3Pr0digalS0n - Exactly!
@adamguy33
@adamguy33 Ай бұрын
Your thoughts fall short. Peter didnt understand many things JESUS was saying until way later. Like how JESUS kept saying to Peter that He had to go to the cross, Peter tried to spot him and JESUS said get behind me Satan. So to say well Peter was there and would of understood exactly what JESUS was saying regarding food falls shirt on many levels. Also later in acts 15:10 Peter says why do you test God by trying to put a yoke upon the gentile disciples that our fathers nor we could bear. This yoke includes many things about the old covenant including food laws. And also Paul had to rebuke Peter for playing a hypocrite and it says hes was living as a gentile until some Jews came around. That would of also implied he was eating with them, gentiles didnt have these food laws so eating some unclean animals would of not been a problem for them or Peter at that time. The vision was both for food and people
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
​@arditienthusiast8384I would rethink my answer, what the Jerusalem council put in the letter to the Gentiles came straight from the law.
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
@arditienthusiast8384 Okay, so incest is okay as long as you're married, correct?
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
@@adamguy33 Actually, his thoughts are spot on. You've added to the text by implying that the vision was about food and people, Peter stated what it was about in Acts 10:28 and in chapter 11 food isn't even mentioned. Peter had the Holy Spirit at that time, he wouldn't have had to think on the vision especially after walking with Christ, when the Spirit directed Peter in v.20, did he say it's okay to eat unclean food or go with the three men? When God replied in Acts 10:15, did he use the word common(koinos) only or did he use unclean(akathartos) as well, if not, why? Look at the context in Acts 15 and Galatians 2, you'll see your argument doesn't hold up.
@messiahcomplex1126
@messiahcomplex1126 Ай бұрын
Psalms 119:53 Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law.
@michaelbrutsche75
@michaelbrutsche75 Ай бұрын
Jesus does not permit the holding of feasts that anticipate the death, burial and resurrection of a Messiah by believers! Jesus does not say to the believer that he can both expect/anticipate and accept His sacrifice!
@bringstolight
@bringstolight Ай бұрын
Do you still eat bread and drink water? Because Jesus is the bread of life and the living water......remember the Sabbath
@pierreferguson1300
@pierreferguson1300 Ай бұрын
Exodus 31:14 “Therefore you are to keep the Sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it must be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. 15 For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a Sabbath of complete rest [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3], holy to the Lord; whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.“ (NASB) Exodus 35:1 Then Moses assembled all the congregation of the sons of Israel, and said to them, “These are the things that the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 “For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day, a Sabbath of complete rest to the Lord [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3]; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death.“ (NASB) Numbers 15:32 Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness [Heb. midbar], they found a man gathering wood on the Sabbath day [Exodus 20:8-11; Leviticus 23:1-3]. 33 And those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation; 34 and they placed him in custody, because it had not been decided what should be done to him. 35 Then the Lord said to Moses, “The man must be put to death [Exodus 31:14-15; Exodus 35:1-2; Deuteronomy 27:26; Matthew 5:18]; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.” 36 So all the congregation [Heb. edah] brought him outside the camp and stoned him to death with stones, just as the Lord had commanded Moses. (NASB) Matthew 5:18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!“ (NASB)
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 Ай бұрын
Sin has always been disobedience, versus the obedience of faith, therefore sin is the lack of faith. Since Moses sin is established as judicial condemnation, and still is Rob.
@lostinart
@lostinart Ай бұрын
We are warned that Paul’s writings are difficult and we need to be studied in the Old Testament before reading his letters. And rather than argue, I’ll suggest that those with ears to hear and eyes to see will find the path. It is a narrow path. FEW find it. FEW. Not many. So keep seeking and knocking dear ones. Don’t underestimate the depths of Paul’s writings. Study the old testament . Yourself. With your own eyes. Finally, a clue for you. How many people make up “ a few?” How many would represent “many”? 119 ministries and Rob Skiba or New2Torah are reliable and trustworthy resources if you want to look deeper. Peace to the reader of this comment. Peace.
@karlcooke3197
@karlcooke3197 Ай бұрын
And where does it say, because we our Gentiles, that the Sabbath and Torah doesn't apply. When the Roman Catholic Church forced Gentiles to keep Sunday. You want to history.
@Nazarene_Judaism
@Nazarene_Judaism Ай бұрын
Acts 15 all of it. and Acts 21:25
@kimartist
@kimartist Ай бұрын
@KarlCooke3197 Where does it say in Torah that God made a covenant with the Gentiles?
@Nazarene_Judaism
@Nazarene_Judaism Ай бұрын
@@kimartist Noah was a gentile. Genesis 9:3-4 is the covenant to the Gentiles. Outside of Torah given to Israel the nations followed what was given to Noah. enjoy your pork.
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
Hi, Karl! The Torah is a beautiful and fundamental part of our faith. In this video, I give four ways that it is still relevant to Christians. As far as Sabbath and the other rituals: "Do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Col. 2:16-17) Shalom, RLS
@Nazarene_Judaism
@Nazarene_Judaism Ай бұрын
@@kimartist Read this here. This is the covenant for Gentiles.Genesis 9:3-4
@solitairecat1
@solitairecat1 Ай бұрын
Great Bible based discourse against returning to the Law.
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 Ай бұрын
7:39 torah keepers can and should fully disregard the book of revelation for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which is the claim you make here. It cannot be reconciled with prophecy found in tanach
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
Hi, T. The book of revelations most certainly can be reconciled with the prophecies in the Tanakh. In fact, almost all of the imagery in Revelation comes directly from the Tanakh. The key is Christ. Shalom, R.
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 Ай бұрын
@@TheBiblicalRoots 😂 dream on
@tbishop4961
@tbishop4961 Ай бұрын
@@TheBiblicalRoots the book of revelation isn't about the future. It's about the past. The events discussed had already happened by the time church fathers were deciding whether or not to even canonize it🤦‍♂️😂 This is difficult for you to accept because you read it with the forgone conclusion that it is a prophecy of the future (despite the fact it fails the test of prophecy laid out in torah)
@josephlarrew
@josephlarrew Ай бұрын
@@TheBiblicalRoots Found the hyper-preterist!
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
No law, no transgression - Romans 4:15, in order for Adam to have transgressed - Romans 5:14, there had to have been a regulation in place, was it okay for Adam to worship other Gods back then? Is incest okay now as long as you're married? The whole idea of people not wanting to keep God's law is ridiculous! The righteousness of the law can be fulfilled in us if we keep it through the Spirit - Romans 8:4, if you're not keeping what still applies (food, sabbath, sexual morality etc...) his Spirit isn't in you because you're not obedient. The law isn't required for SALVATION, but it is required for righteous living, Christ only gave one new commandment - John 13:34 and it's a renewed commandment of brotherly love. The bible NEVER says all food is clean, if all food was clean, there would be no more poisonous plants or animals high in toxicity, with which we could defile our temples.
@BraydenBelt
@BraydenBelt Ай бұрын
Literally twisting scripture dude. You are making way too many assumptions into the text. Sin existed before the law was ever given. Food laws never applied to gentiles in the first place so why do they now?
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
@@BraydenBelt What scripture did I twist? What assumptions? I quoted text and asked questions, did I add anything? How can sin or transgression exist without a law or regulation? I often here that, but are Gentiles Jews inwardly now - Romans 2:28-29? Are Gentiles graffed in with Israel - Romans 11:11-17? Were not Gentiles once aliens from the common wealth, but in Christ is one new man both of Jews and Gentiles, both having access to the Father by the same Spirit, Gentiles now being fellowcitizens with the saints - Ephesians 2:12-19? This is why it applies, or are these all assumptions?
@debblouin
@debblouin Ай бұрын
You are conflating moral laws and ceremonial laws and rituals which pointed to Jesus.
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
@@debblouin You accuse me of something but offer no explanation!
@messengerisrael3817
@messengerisrael3817 Ай бұрын
@@BraydenBelt !. WHAT LAW WAS JESUS BORN UNDER ? You must understand that there is more than one law ; In the bible three type of laws are talked about : 1. The laws/commandments/instructions of the Father ; which includes all the covenants ; these are instructions to righteousness ; that is why when the man asked Jesus , what good things shall I do , that I may have eternal life ? Jesus said , " KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS " . 2. The law of the mediators ( law of Moses and the law of Christ ) , which are sin sacrifices through a priesthood , to recover you when you transgress the laws of the Father ; remember , the covenants are between the Father and the covenant people ( children of Israel ; believing Gentiles are grafted into the covenant through faith in Jesus ) . The mediators intercedes for the people ; they do not change the covenants . Israel is the only nation to have made a covenant with the Father . The Gentiles are not under the Father's law , but under Christ law ; which is the mediator of the covenant ; which also recover the Israelites from their transgressions against the Father's law . The law through the mediator Moses ( sometimes called the law of Moses , because it came through the husband/protector Moses ) was the blood of the animals and oblations ; which was carried out by the Leviticus priesthood . This law was the law of works , not of faith ( Romans 3:27-28 , " Where is boasting then ? It is excluded . By what law ? of works ? Nay: but by the law of faith . Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law " ) . The law of faith ( sometimes called the law of Christ , because it came under the husband/protector Jesus Christ ) is the blood of Jesus Christ through faith ; Which means that you must repent of your sins with a sorrowful heart ( mind ) , like king David did , and believe by obedience ; that means keeping your mediator ( Jesus Christ ) commandments ; which are the same laws/instructions/ commandments of the Father . MATTHEW 8:1-4 , 1.When he was come down from the mountain, great multitudes followed him. 2And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. 3And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. 4And Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man; but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them. THIS IS THAT GIFT : LEVITICUS 14:1-32 , 1.And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2This shall be the law of the leper in the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought unto the priest: 3And the priest shall go forth out of the camp; and the priest shall look, and, behold, if the plague of leprosy be healed in the leper; 4Then shall the priest command to take for him that is to be cleansed two birds alive and clean, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop: 5And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water: 6As for the living bird, he shall take it, and the cedar wood, and the scarlet, and the hyssop, and shall dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water: 7And he shall sprinkle upon him that is to be cleansed from the leprosy seven times, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose into the open field. 8And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days. 9But it shall be on the seventh day, that he shall shave all his hair off his head and his beard and his eyebrows, even all his hair he shall shave off: and he shall wash his clothes, also he shall wash his flesh in water, and he shall be clean. 10And on the eighth day he shall take two he lambs without blemish, and one ewe lamb of the first year without blemish, and three tenth deals of fine flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and one log of oil. 11And the priest that maketh him clean shall present the man that is to be made clean, and those things, before the LORD, at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation: 12And the priest shall take one he lamb, and offer him for a trespass offering, and the log of oil, and wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: 13And he shall slay the lamb in the place where he shall kill the sin offering and the burnt offering, in the holy place: for as the sin offering is the priest's, so is the trespass offering: it is most holy: 14And the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and the priest shall put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot: 15And the priest shall take some of the log of oil, and pour it into the palm of his own left hand: 16And the priest shall dip his right finger in the oil that is in his left hand, and shall sprinkle of the oil with his finger seven times before the LORD: 17And of the rest of the oil that is in his hand shall the priest put upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the blood of the trespass offering: 18And the remnant of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall pour upon the head of him that is to be cleansed: and the priest shall make an atonement for him before the LORD. 19And the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed from his uncleanness; and afterward he shall kill the burnt offering: 20And the priest shall offer the burnt offering and the meat offering upon the altar: and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and he shall be clean. 21And if he be poor, and cannot get so much; then he shall take one lamb for a trespass offering to be waved, to make an atonement for him, and one tenth deal of fine flour mingled with oil for a meat offering, and a log of oil; 22And two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, such as he is able to get; and the one shall be a sin offering, and the other a burnt offering. 23And he shall bring them on the eighth day for his cleansing unto the priest, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, before the LORD. 24And the priest shall take the lamb of the trespass offering, and the log of oil, and the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before the LORD: 25And he shall kill the lamb of the trespass offering, and the priest shall take some of the blood of the trespass offering, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot: 26And the priest shall pour of the oil into the palm of his own left hand: 27And the priest shall sprinkle with his right finger some of the oil that is in his left hand seven times before the LORD: 28And the priest shall put of the oil that is in his hand upon the tip of the right ear of him that is to be cleansed, and upon the thumb of his right hand, and upon the great toe of his right foot, upon the place of the blood of the trespass offering: 29And the rest of the oil that is in the priest's hand he shall put upon the head of him that is to be cleansed, to make an atonement for him before the LORD. 30And he shall offer the one of the turtledoves, or of the young pigeons, such as he can get; 31Even such as he is able to get, the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering, with the meat offering: and the priest shall make an atonement for him that is to be cleansed before the LORD. 32This is the law of him in whom is the plague of leprosy, whose hand is not able to get that which pertaineth to his cleansing. JESUS WAS BORN UNDER THE LAW OF MOSES , OR THE LAW OF ANIMAL SACRIFICE & OBLATIONS . THE GOD OF ISRAEL LAWS LAST FOREVER ( PSALM 111:1-8 ) ; THE LAW OF WORKS HE GAVE THROUGH THE MEDIATOR MOSES , WAS REPLACED BY THE LAW OF FAITH THROUGH THE MEDIATOR JESUS CHRIST . THE APOSTLE PETER STATED THAT SOME OF PAUL WRITINGS AND OTHER SCRIPTURES ARE SOMRTIMES HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD . SHALOM !
@king_____geo273
@king_____geo273 Ай бұрын
This is amazing and very funny every question you addressed sounds like the deception in the garden of eden, you are the perfect person to show the ways that satan can put forward his deception,you are doing an amazing job. The only thing I know is I thank God for the bible and that it's my teacher because if I didn't know what it teaches you RL Solburg would lead me straight to HELL
@adamguy33
@adamguy33 Ай бұрын
Your so foolish and obviously a decieved person. You dont understand the truth because it is not in you. Rob not leading you to hell. That is where your going all on your own. Without the Holy Spirit you won't understand the bible anyway, that is why your not apart of the new covenant. If you were actually saved you'd understand the truth as Rob does
@scottfrance1400
@scottfrance1400 Ай бұрын
Hi professsor Solberg ,i have the answer for you to it all of the "why" It is in Ezekiel 20:13-26 The law given to the Jewish, who were led out of Egypt, and they didnt obey it. *they didnt follow his decrees *they desecrated the Sabbaths They lusted after idols . (GOLDEN CALF MOMENT) God had all their lives ended . God kept their children alive and told them not to do as their parents done giving them a chance . The children didnt obey the law *they didnt follow the decrees *they desecrated the Sabbaths *they lusted after idols . God held up his hand and swore he would destroy them all. But the save his name being profaned he kept them alive. Then this is what God says take careful notice So I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live; 26 I defiled them through their gifts-the sacrifice of every firstborn-that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the Lord.’ This is why horror after horror keeps coming upon israel . (Because of the law), it is bringing these horrors like the holocaust upon them and now october 7th and this war ,and many others . This is also why Jesus died, it was to save people following the law from these horrors ,( it's on anyone who follows the law), and Jesus himself took all the horrors and punishment onto himself , that is why Jesus went through such a terrible ending . And that is why he layed down his life. To save us all from the horrors coming upon us that we may have life and have it abundantly. God also says in Ezekiel 20:15 that they are not in the land that was destined for them , (they are meant to be in the land of milk and honey . Which they claim israel to be but it is not . Anyone under the law is in a very bad position . The horrors right across the world would end tomorrow (if everyone made a sealed confession tomorrow) ,confessing their sins in Jesus name.
@ServentOfYahusha7
@ServentOfYahusha7 Ай бұрын
I'm laughing 🤣 to bro. Just because Peter ate with gentiles doesn't mean he ate unclean. For example when I partake with my neighbors and family members they eat whatever but I eat biblically clean.
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
Galatians 2:14 But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, LIVE like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?” Acts 11: 2 So when Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcision party criticized him, saying, 3 “You went to uncircumcised men and ate with them.” Do you drink?
@ServentOfYahusha7
@ServentOfYahusha7 Ай бұрын
​@@salpezzino7803Where is the evidence that states that he specifically ate with them, and drank with the gentiles anything that was unclean.
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
@@ServentOfYahusha7 take your cult glasses off. Add the FACT that God told him all animals are now Food. Then reread Galatians 2. BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
@Mikhael1964
@Mikhael1964 Ай бұрын
​@@salpezzino7803Religiously clean Yes I agree.... But many of those foods GOD forbade the Israelites to eat in Leviticus are actually unhealthy for human consumption . Try eating some Bats,penguins,snakes,rats and see how you feel afterwards..lol 😂
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 Ай бұрын
@@Mikhael1964 that is a Lie, read Leviticus for yourself, Dont listen to Satan's lies. God says many times "it shall be unclean until the evening; then it shall be clean" I don't crap out my pulled pork till the next morning.
@thelordyourgod
@thelordyourgod 24 күн бұрын
So this is what Mr Batman believes in...
@sundownsam
@sundownsam Ай бұрын
Robert Solberg, you are responding with opinions and not with scriptural truth.
@elijahirvin5911
@elijahirvin5911 16 күн бұрын
Jews broke deut 4.2
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
Babylon speak, Rob, Babble.
@johngillatt2740
@johngillatt2740 Ай бұрын
Peter's sheet was a vision. He neither killed nor ate. It was about people not food. Clean and unclean animals were already know when Noah entered the ark
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
I have to respectfully disagree, John. Because if the Old Covenant dietary restrictions are still in effect under the New Covenant, then in this vision, Jesus commanded Peter to break the Mosaic law and sin! Even accounting for the symbolic nature of the vision, we have a command by Jesus to do something lawless. And if the food laws were still in effect, then the vision also includes Jesus telling a lie. Because His statement that God has made those animals clean would be untrue. RLS
@Wisdoms_Inheritance
@Wisdoms_Inheritance Ай бұрын
That is incorrect RLS, we see that God had cleansed the koinos in verse 15 not akathartos, so now we know that God was referring to the animals considered to be defiled, God didn't respond using akathartos because akathartos can't be restored to a state it never was, therefore Christ didn't command an unlawful thing nor tell a lie, Peters response is obviously based on him not understanding the vision at that moment, so it makes sense he would respond using both koinos and akathartos.
@ScriptureFirst
@ScriptureFirst Ай бұрын
Insufficient development for complete logical conclusion on both sides. Multiple verses left out on every single one of these points. The snarling condescension toward the rapid fire brevity of the oc ironically applies to its own retort: don’t let this be the end of your examination: either way.
@gwmcklintock
@gwmcklintock Ай бұрын
Jesus death and resurrection ended the blood covenant for atonement. He says so! He said He didn't come to end the law. Why do you put Paul over Jesus?
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
I certainly don't put Paul over Jesus. Paul is only a servant and apostle of Jesus, who is Lord. But don't forget that Jesus said this about the Apostle Paul: “This man is my chosen instrument to proclaim my name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel” (Acts 9:15). And Jesus said, “Whoever receives the one I send receives me” (John 13:20). So, to reject Paul is to reject Jesus who sent him. Shalom, RLS
@gwmcklintock
@gwmcklintock Ай бұрын
@@TheBiblicalRoots Matthew 24 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘ here,’ do not believe . For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will provide great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. Behold, I have told you in advance. There are serious issues regarding Paul that most are in fear of addressing. Everything Jesus said is washed through a "Paul filter" when it should be the other way around. Unfortunately, you and the majority do in fact elevate Paul's writings over what Jesus said. James epistle is a virtual admonishment of Paul. Blessings.
@TheBiblicalRoots
@TheBiblicalRoots Ай бұрын
@@gwmcklintock With all due respect, GW. if you accept the parts of the Bible you like, and reject the parts you don't, it's not the Bible you believe but yourself. RLS
@gwmcklintock
@gwmcklintock Ай бұрын
@@TheBiblicalRoots Hmm, ok. Do you see an opposing view where Jesus sends away workers of lawlessness to Paul preaching delivery from the law?
@rayray4192
@rayray4192 Ай бұрын
Proclaiming Shabbat is relevant in the new covenant is spitting in the face of Jesus.
@AndreColon
@AndreColon Ай бұрын
You are speaking about the Holy day ?
@t.scottmajor1316
@t.scottmajor1316 Ай бұрын
Have you never read the terms of the New Covenant?
@pierreferguson1300
@pierreferguson1300 Ай бұрын
Many unbelievers (Hebrews 3) do not care about Jesus giving them rest through believing the gospel (Hebrews 4) in the New Covenant (Hebrews 8). They only care about keeping Old Commandments in the Old Covenant of Judaism. Luke 5:39 "And no one, after drinking old wine wants new; for he says, ‘The old is fine.’” (NASB)
@t.scottmajor1316
@t.scottmajor1316 Ай бұрын
@@pierreferguson1300 Sorry, I'm not tracking with what you are saying. Jesus only taught from the Tanakh (Old Testament). There wasn't anything else to teach from. So, I don't know why you would say that unbelievers only care about keeping the commandments that Jesus was teaching. That doesn't make any sense.
@pierreferguson1300
@pierreferguson1300 Ай бұрын
@@t.scottmajor1316 Where is Matthew 5:44 and John 13:34 in the Law given through Moses? It's not Matthew 5:43 and Matthew 22:39 which quote Leviticus 19:18 based on Hebrews 7:11. Have a good one in Old Testament Judaism, drinking old wine.
@MrH4YAH
@MrH4YAH Ай бұрын
If we believe, we will have fruit(works). Through faith(requires works) we may be righteous. Breaking bread(food) diesn't mean he would eat filth(cannibal). If you are IN the "new" covenant ypu have no duty or business fishing for men unless your pride is your righteousness. This let's us all know who you are.
@6969smurfy
@6969smurfy Ай бұрын
Evey one of your rebuttals is wrong,...
@adamguy33
@adamguy33 Ай бұрын
Everyone of your comments are wrong, why? Because the new covenant is not a continuing of the old one with alittle JESUS sprinkled on top. Its a completely new covenant making the old obsolete. If you go to the old covenant that is obsolete and think your doing something right your just decieved and blinded by the evil one and your pridfull heart
@sethplace
@sethplace Ай бұрын
Oh snap. 😅
@adamguy33
@adamguy33 Ай бұрын
‭Galatians 2:4-6 NKJV‬ [4] And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), [5] to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you. [6] But from those who seemed to be something-whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man-for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me.
@adamguy33
@adamguy33 Ай бұрын
‭Galatians 3:3-25 NKJV‬ [3] Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? [4] Have you suffered so many things in vain-if indeed it was in vain? [5] Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?- [6] just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” [7] Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. [8] And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” [9] So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. [10] For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.” [11] But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for “the just shall live by faith.” [12] Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.” [13] Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”),[14] that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. [15] Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man’s covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. [16] Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ. [17] And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect. [18] For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise. [19] What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. [20] Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one. [21] Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. [22] But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. [23] But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. [24] Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. [25] But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. All food laws , ceremonial laws and sabbath laws are done away with, only the moral laws stand. And even those we stumble and are not perfect morally, yet for us who are in Christ we shall never come into condemnation. For we have passed from death unto life
@harryabrahams2770
@harryabrahams2770 Ай бұрын
@6969smurfy.. I fully agree with you…just want to add one thing..nowhere does our Father in Heaven ask as to reform or protest against Babylon, we are always told to leave and He will take us over the Jordan just like Abraham and the Israelites Got Torah Got Truth
@walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502
@walkinginthegodgiven-jerem5502 Ай бұрын
27:06 wow. One flock, one shepherd, WHO WILL LISTEN TO THE VOICE AND TEACHINGS OF JESUS WHILE ON EARTH, NOT IN THE SECRET SUPPOSEDLY GIVEN TO PAUL. Solberg said Jesus said sheep not of this fold I must bring and THEY will follow my voice and teachings. JESUS SENT the 12 to the whole earth. He didn’t send Paul as his sole apostle.
@Gigi2four
@Gigi2four Ай бұрын
Not understanding… are you anti Paul?
@gracemusonda9396
@gracemusonda9396 Ай бұрын
It’s a good idea but There are so many churches in Zambia and l think govt can not afford. It will be a huge responsibility Pastors should not only sit and wait for umutulo awe- the bible says we should work. They should help themselves Otherwise if they compromise with their faith it’s upto them. There’s nothing wrong to get the money from ba pompwe after all nabo teshabo cilifye. Ni don’t kubeba it comes to voting
@karlcooke3197
@karlcooke3197 Ай бұрын
Constantine changed the Sabbath to Sunday in A.D. 7/3/325. It was under His own authority, not Elohim. People ought to their Research unstead of listen to you.
@freedominchrist444
@freedominchrist444 Ай бұрын
Study church history instead of just believing what u were told. So many myths spread about constantine in torah movement which actual historical facts refute!
@Mikhael1964
@Mikhael1964 Ай бұрын
​@@freedominchrist444Read your bible sir,There is absolutely no New Testament text stating that God, Jesus, or the apostles changed the Sabbath to Sunday-not a text, not a word, not even a hint or suggestion.I suggest you study history ..: Cardinal Gibbons, in Faith of Our Fathers, 92nd ed., p. 89, freely admits, “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we [the Catholic Church] never sanctify.” Again, “The Catholic Church, … by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday” (The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893). “Protestants do not realize that by observing Sunday, they accept the authority of the spokesperson of the Church, the Pope” (Our Sunday Visitor, February 5, 1950). "of course the Catholic Church claims that the change [Saturday Sabbath to Sunday] was her act... And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things” (H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons). The Catholic Church claims that “the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact” (Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1, 1923). Remember the whole of Christianity in world was Catholic/Orthodox until Luther came along..I have more historical documents ,incl church fathers to prove this .
@Mikhael1964
@Mikhael1964 Ай бұрын
​@@freedominchrist444HISTORICAL FACTS; About 100 years before Christianity, Egyptian Mithraists introduced the festival of Sunday, dedicated to worshiping the sun, into the Roman Empire. Later, as Christianity grew, church leaders wished to increase the numbers of the church. In order to make the gospel more attractive to non-Christians, pagan customs were incorporated into the church's ceremonies. The custom of Sunday worship was welcomed by Christians who desired to differentiate themselves from the Jews, whom they hated because of the Jews' killing/ rejection of the Savior. The first day of the week began to be recognized as both a religious and civil holiday. By the end of the second century, Christians considered it sinful to work on Sunday. The Roman emperor Constantine, a former sun-worshiper, professed conversion to Christianity, though his subsequent actions suggest the "conversion" was more of a political move than a genuine heart change. Constantine named himself Bishop of the Catholic Church and enacted the first civil law regarding Sunday observance in A.D. 321; On the venerable day of the sun let the magistrate and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however, persons engaged in agricultural work may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits; because it often happens that another day is not so suitable for grain growing or for vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost. - Schaff's History of the Christian Church, vol. III, chap. 75. Note that Constantine's law did not even mention Sabbath but referred to the mandated rest day as a "the venerable day of the sun." Four years later, in A.D. 325, Pope Sylvester officially named Sunday "the Lord's Day," and in A.D. 338, Eusebius, the court bishop of Constantine, wrote, "All things whatsoever that it was the duty to do on the Sabbath (the seventh day of the week) we (Constantine, Eusebius, and other bishops) have transferred to the Lord's Day (the first day of the week) as more appropriately belonging to it." Instead of the humble lives of persecution and self-sacrifice led by the apostles, church leaders now exalted themselves to the place of God!
@simonskinner1450
@simonskinner1450 Ай бұрын
Another error in Christianity is the vial teaching that everyone in the world has sinned, but 'all' means 'all that have sinned' as Romans 3:20 of those baptised must not sin.
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