Bricky, you missed the best Angron quote: "Childish? The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilisation to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, courage and honour, courage and honour. Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom that enslaves you, no matter that their armies overshadow yours by ten thousand to one. You know nothing of courage. Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy of others. You know nothing of honour."

“Get the boys...I’ll deal with these guys myself.” “Uh are ya sure??? There’s a lot of th...” “THEY HIT ME WITH A TRUCK”

“Father have you ever heard the expression you are what you eat, because right now you sound like a bunch whiny physic children” -rogal dorn

The way big E treated Angron lends credence to the theory that he made a deal with the chaos gods in order to make the Primarchs and part of that deal is that half of them will fall to chaos but didn't know who. He probably took one look at Angron and thought, thanks for volunteering.

Look at how Guilliman won the lottery on where he grew up and look at Angron.

My favorite description of Angron : "It had often said that the Space Marine knows no fear. Such statement was not literally true, a space marine could know fear, but he had the training and discipline to deal with it and not let it affect him in battle. Captain Saul Tarvitz was no exception, he had faced storms of gunfire and monstrous aliens and even glimpsed the insane predators of the warp, but when Angron charged, he ran."

Actually.... The World Eaters got their name after Angron was introduced to the War Hounds officers when Kharne calmed him down. When Kharne went introduced Angron to the World Eater officers, he did so so with the phrase: Salute those whose soldiers were named the Eaters of Cities One of the officers, Captain Dreagher, said the following: *Primarch! General! Your warriors were eaters of cities, lord, but with you to command us the War Hounds will be eaters of worlds!* Angron then responded: *World Eaters... World Eaters...So shall you be, then, little brothers. Come with me, then, World Eaters.*

Primarchs were supposed to reflect all the sides of the Emperor, Angron was meant to be his compassion that ended well XD

its really funny how easily the emperor could have earned Angron's favour but chose not to

Bricky seems to be slipping, he forgot the most tragic part about angron, angron could sooth rage and turmoil in others before the nails. So in the best boy timeline angron would probably been like a ghandi character, first mastering his own rage and then teaching others to do the same.

"Even the dog is angry." Dogron.

You didn't mention the fact that pre-nail Angron was the most empathic of all primarchs, and a kind of spirit healer. Wich makes his fall into nail Angron much more tragic. That's also why he raged for 3 days straight when he realized he killer his surrogate father.

Angron shoulderpressed a warhound titan after digging himself out of 200 meters of rockrete. beating a custodes to death probably didn't even make Angron break a sweat.

My favorite Angron quote by far: "What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything more than tally compliances and polish your armour?" [...] " The people of your world named you Great One. The people of mine called me Slave... Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian high-riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives!? Listen to your blue-clad wretches yelling of courage and honour, Courage and Honour, COURAGE AND HONOUR!!! Do you even know the meaning of those words!? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage... Honour is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honour!" - Angron addressing Roboute Guilliman during the Shadow Crusade

“I have traded one master for another, one slaver for the next. My captivity did not end upon the jump into that gilded craft, nor did my rage subside when greeted by my father. The Emperor of mankind has done naught to ingratiate himself into my good will, nor to placate my seething rage. I have no father, and the Emperor will have no son in me. I slew the only man I deemed worthy of that title on the field of battle many years ago, and since then I have felt nothing but anger so hot, it would burn lesser men to ash. I watched as all I cared for was destroyed, trampled into the blood soaked mud of a savage world. You blamed the nails Malcador, but it was His inaction, His deeming of all that I held dear as less that worthless, that has made me into the man you see now. The nails are gone Malcador, and I thank you for that, because now I know this hate is my own, and with a clear head, I can finally take my revenge.” A sane Angron, who’s butcher’s nails were safely removed.

One of the most tragic characters in Warhammer yet the most memeable at the same time. The duality of man.

"‘Such pretty lies! We fight for the same reasons men have always fought: for land, for resources, for wealth and for bodies to feed into the grinders of industry. We fight to silence anyone that dares draw breath and whisper a different opinion from ours. We fight because the Emperor wants every world in his hands. All he knows is slavery, painted in the inoffensive cloak of compliance. The very notion of freedom is a horror to him.’ ‘Do we give choices to those we slaughter? A true choice? Or do we broadcast that they must throw their weapons into the fires of peace and bow down, faces pushed into the mud like beggars, thanking us for the culture we force upon them? We offer them compliance or we offer them death. How am I a traitor, wolfling? I fight as you fight, as loyal as you are. I do the tyrant’s bidding.’ "

Next episode should be named "THE WORLD EATERS OF ANGRON"

Angron is so angry that doom slayer told him to knock this shit out

"Don't let all your son's friends get murdered in front of his eyes." Damn, Shy missed a wonderful opportunity to meme Omniman in the background.

“Hmmm… this War Hound’s name is ‘Kharn’… ‘KHARN’… Could he turn to worship…? Nah, to obvious” -Emps

Infant murdering many Eldar? That's hardly the worst disservice that GW has done to us in recent lore 😭

Deathguard: drops psychic barriers Captain Saren: "standby for Titanfall"

I thought Curze's book would be the most depressing, and while it wasn't lite; Angron's story is just god awful tragic. Curze was likely batshit insane from the start from his long trip thru the warp; a genuine lost cause. Angron was a healer, he was a caring inspiring leader and they did such terrible things to him on Nuceria :(

Physical incarnation of "Existence Is Pain" = Angron.

Pretty sure the Index Astartes says Angron was probably attacked by Eldar to stop him being what he is. Ironically they weakened him enough for the slavers who later found him to capture him. He was found amidst the bodies of his would-be assassins. Eldar are the reason most things are wrong with the galaxy. This continues that trend.

Emperor should've deleted Nuceria for what they did to Angron.

"Ultramarines are THE Rome people..." Nuceria is in Ultramar so. Or I guess... was lmao.

the Roboutian Heresy version of Angron is something else, he's cool. he and his sons are considered *the* most honorable legion there is, even the Inquisition is hesitant to try and mess with them.

Every paragraph of Angron's biography ends with the words, "this made Angron very angry."

Let’s be honest Angron is the botched clone of Tyler1. In all seriousness it’s pretty sad what happened to him. If he didn’t grow up on the planet he did I could totally see him becoming one of the best Primarchs. Probably another Sanguinius or Vulkan.

I hope that the Emperor's Children and my favorite pretty boy Fulgrim are coming soon! ALSO ANCIENT RYLANOR DEDICATED EPISODE OR I RIOT!!

Surprisingly enough, there's an old filipino mythological hero epic where a 9 month old "infant" slaughtered an entire tribe of elite warriors or Demi-Gods. So hearing Angron slaughtering Eldars doesn't seem surprising for me.

The more I learn about Warhammer, the more I feel like the Horus-herresy is the emperors fault. He gave all of them so much motivation.

So, on the battle between Angron and Russ, the reason why they both say they won is because Angron beat the absolute crap out of Russ and almost killed him in the 1v1, but in the army battle the Wolves surrounded and defeated the World Eaters. So while Angron won the duel, the Wolves won the battle. Also, I'm disappointed that they didn't talk about Angron's original psychic ability either.

Am I the only one here wished that Bricky told DK the quote of Angron to Girly-man saying to him "What would you know of struggle, Perfect Son?" bet he would love that quote.

You should name the war hounds cigarettes considering Angron smokes a pack of them a day.

Actually angron never hated sanguinius. I don't think he liked being compared to him because he was given the nickname "the red angel" after becoming a deamon prince. That's about as far as it went. Even though we have barely seen any interactions between the two prior to the siege of terra there was one conversation where lorgar brought up sanguinius and explained why he wouldn't betray the emperor. Thoughts of the angel actually calmed the butcher's nails in angrons head.

"Man, maybe if Angron didn't have the Butcher's nail, maybe he would have turn out better" * Look at Malevolent Marine * "Maybe not"

"Everytime one of his marines tried to talk to him, Angron would beat them to death." "Why would he put butcher's nails in their heads? He doesn't hate his marines!"

If we check out the Dornian heresy (Reversed version of the Horus heresy), you'll see angron as an honouable disciplinarian compared to an insane berserker.

Lorgar to angron when they're talking about the fight with Russ "It’s almost poetic in its elegance and emotional resonance. He proves his sons’ loyalty, while yours leave you to die. He proves the damage the Nails are doing to your Legion. He proves the tactical strength of taking an objective rather than fighting purely to kill. He spares your life in the hope you’ll see all of this, in a lesson it cost him heavily to teach you, and your reaction is to grin and claim yourself the victor."

Angron: Im not leaving my gladiators. Big E: Ok, i will fight by your side, maybe i can bring some of your sons to fight by your side. Done, Angron is now super loyal and the slaves will die shortly after from the brain nails, Big E really wanted the heresy

The nails were put in after the legion fail to take a planet over three times. The reason for failure was cause they had to take it over in 36 hours. The nails where both a desire to know him better and a punishment for being too weak.

Daemon primarch Angron: Big scary and near unstoppable Perturabo: puts the “nearly” in that statement. And I don’t mean the maze

His best quote: What would you know of struggle, perfect son? When have you fought against the mutilation of your mind? When have you had to do anything other than tally compliance's and polish your armor? The people of your world named you "Great One". The people of mine called me slave. Which one of us landed on a paradise of civilization to be raised by a foster father, Roboute? Which one of us was given armies to lead after training in the halls of the Macraggian High Riders? Which one of us inherited a strong, cultured kingdom? And which one of us had to rise up against a kingdom with nothing but a horde of starving slaves? Which one of us was a child enslaved on a world of monsters, with his brain cut up by carving knives? Listen to your blue clad wretches yelling courage and honor, courage and honor, courage and honor! Do you even know the meaning of those words? Courage is fighting the kingdom which enslaves you, no matter that their armies outnumber yours by ten-thousand to one. You know nothing of courage! Honor is resisting a tyrant when all others suckle and grow fat on the hypocrisy he feeds them. You know nothing of honor!

"Why would angron put the nails in his astartes' heads?" I dunno but in my experience anger is a great motivator to do dumb things

So that “1/10 gets beaten to death by the other 9 for failure” thing was directly ripped from the romans. That’s where we get the term decimation.

Oh this is going to be fun to iisten while at work tomorrow. Angron, Daemon Primarch of the World Eaters, changed by the Love of his brother Lorgar. His most loyal brother.

I like the subversion of the skulls adorning Angron's armor not being victims of his senseless slaughter, but the only battle brothers he loved, and would die by

Here's your Alpha Legion script, Bricky. "No one knows who the Alpha Legion are working for nor what their goals or motivation might be. If the Alpha Legion themselves ever knew, they have long since completely fucking forgotten."

Khorne unit roster got revealed today for TWW3, this is such a great coincidence!

"Emperor guide my hand I am cranking 90's on these heretical scum!" *runs up and default dances on the heretics for the emperor*

I feel like the matto for poor Angrons life is "The beatings will continue until moral improves"

I heard a good theory that the Emperor intentionally treated some of his sons horribly because he planned for the Heresy to happen in order to quell the number of Space Marines like why he did to the Thunder Warriors. He just never expected Horus to turn on him, much less lead the Heresy.

It's not that he howled continuously for days, it's that the sound wave lasted/ resonated for days. That's my take at least.

You can hear the Guts theme during the sad parts of Angron's story

One of the main reasons why I love this channel is that they drop all the "praise the holy God Emperor of mankind" roleplay (which really gets old after the 20th time you hear it) and straight up call out the Emperor for being a huge douchebag

I'm just casually watching these and very, very swiftly coming to the conclusion that the legions that turned to chaos really didn't do as much wrong as I first thought

Kind of hoping that Bricky takes up Majorkill's offer on helping out on the alpha legion episode

Going to look forward to this, Angron surprisingly sad for what happens in the beginning for him.

Angron is 40k Spartacus basically the same story at least as his slave life

As much as I appreciate the Kirk v. Gorn reference, there was literally an episode of TOS called "Bread and Circuses", with Kirk and Spock fighting in Roman Gladiatorial Arenas.

Please tell me Lotara is in this. EDIT: Happy to see she was mentioned, and I'm glad to hear she'll be talked about next week.

"Ultramarines are like THE Rome people" I think Ultramarines are THE Greek people Also Games Workshop and their total original ideas, didn't Rome have a gladiator revolt, Spartarcus? Angron is basically Spartarcus

Was it just me, or did DK yelling "turned to chaos" sound suspiciously close to TTS Magnus?

Wait a minute... If Angron is in infinite suffering all the time, wouldn't that just feed Slaanesh and not Khorne?

God shy does such a good job with the photos adding both memes and context

You have to understand that when the Emperor found Angron it was a very difficult situation for him. He had just finished railing his 68th line of warp dust, to win a bet with Malcador, so he was high out of his mind when they finally reached the planet.

Hope springs eternal for an Emperor’s Children episode!

I never understand why the emperor didn't just teleport all of his gladiators

The number of times bricky said "and so he just murdered everyone in the room" really helps get the point across how much Angron loved killing

"Oh yeah? Prove it" In response to every single thing Bricky will say about the Alpha Legion

Gentlemen! I love your work! I've been a World Eaters player for 15 years and I'm not gonna lie, I was worried you guys would stick to the "super angry/only angry" Angron. You guys did our Primarch justice, this video was excellent! Funny as hell and well researched. You guys are an absolute blast! Shy, love the selection of images and little jabs here and then. I love these podcasts and wish I had found them sooner! I am genuinely considering supporting. Looking forward to the full World Eaters episode!

Ngl the concept Lorgar saying "I'll promise we will figure the Butchers nails out and then burn the planet to the ground." Seems surprisingly nice.

“Why are you such a bad dad?!” Emperor: Just. As. Planned.

I was watching hoping to hear about Lotara and the Conquerer and now I get to wait for the pop off next time. “No one escapes the Conquerer”

So for some additional context, when Angron was in that acid fighting pit he had a psychic power that made him feel the people around him suffer and die. He was supposed to be the Big E’s compassion

Emperor: Hey Leeman do the thing Leeman: Angron take the nails out or else Angron: "It's hip to be square"

32:00 ''dad please put it in me'' -Some world eater probably

PLEASE MAKE ANGRON’S DOG A T SHIRT !!!! I want it so bad now 😂

The saddest part about angron that I feel might be good to bring up his is power he got then lost. Angron before the nails had the power to share the emotions of people and take away the pain of those he was in contact with. He was the ultimate empath, but he lost all of that when they implanted the nails in him. For reference see his primarch novel which is only a 5 hour audio book and it is actually great.

Angron didn't order the butcher nails in. It was Kharns idea. He was the first to do it. Because he wanted to be able to connect more to his primarch. It was a way to relate and understand him. So you was nearly correct

Sarine's interaction with the Conqueror's honor guard after the ultramarine boarding better be in the next episode.

please let Lotara Sarrin get brought up at some point edit: 51:08 YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH cannot WAIT for next week's episode

Emps being such an absolute bastard for absolutely no reason is so beyond stupid it almost entirely ruins this story, even more than Angron being such a miserable failure of a Primarch and being the only one of his brothers to fail to conquer his homeworld (Primarchs are bulletproof, no mortal army should have sufficed). This is still a tragic tale of misery, pointless cruelty, and failure, but the nonsensical bullshit that had to happen to make it come together kinda sours it. Angron very easily could have been my favorite traitor Primarch, if I could believe the circumstances that lead up to the creation of his fate. There are just too many issues; why is Angron so weak that an army of mortals armed with tech the Imperium didn't consider worthy of note could defeat him? How did he get captured in the first place when infant Primarchs are capable of killing squads of armed men and shattering steel? Why was the Emperor so pointlessly cruel to Angron when he could have easily helped him and cemented his loyalty for it? So many writing failures that snuff out his potential before he ever had a chance, turning him from easily the best to easily the most pathetic Primarch.

One of the best looney toons moments in Warhammer, just yeeting a daemon primarch out a airlock mid temper tantrum onto terra just to stop him from singlehandedly killing the crew of his own flagship cause his brother didn't let him lead the assault on his own dad

Has a brazilian fan, although we dont like much of others talking about our problens, 5:32 this is actually right about our major cities

is it really any surprise so many of these primarchs betrayed the emperor cause it sounds like he intentionally picked most of the renegade options when it came to his sons.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!

It's also worth noting that Angron had a psychic ability that allowed him to take on others pain and suffering, making him naturally empathetic to others. Meaning Angron was most likely meant for a kind of support role in the crusade, but the nails took that future away from him by turning into a DPS berserker.

I just love that delivery of on the "Maybe he wouldn't, you know... TURN TO CHAOS!?"

Things I’m expecting for alpha legion: 1.Horus wasn’t the first primarch found 2. The alpha legion has “one” primarch” 3. Spoils from the new alpharius book 4. John and his fuckery 5. Alpharius’ “death” during the Horus Heresy 6. And finally, an explanation of the alpharius meme

Angron's story reminds me of the Spartacus rebellion.

Interesting note, due to nature of the Butures Nails, Angron likely halluscinated his people still living when the Emperor took him from the planet. Because of those nails corrupting his mind, his people were likely already dead when the Emperor found him EDIT: Thought i remembered hearing this somewhere, still might be from 40k theories though i couldnt rediscover it. This might just be a thought of mine given the psychological break Angron suffered during his revolt. This could also be backed by the fact that while still very flawed morally bankrupt, this goes against the character of the Emperor pretty severely as it would single out Angron as being treated especially terribly. As example, even with Magnus, Lorgar, and Mortarrion, soms of the primarchs arguably treated the worst next to Angron himself, Magnus enjoyed a very personal and familial relationship with Emperor which included him offering redemption to him (covered by Wolflord Rho in his fate of magnus reunion with the emperor), Lorgar was only punished for his piety after multiple acts of leniancy and patience ibcluding warning and explicit s3cularism before the Emperor finally took drastic action, and finally even Mortarrion was given a chance to accomplish his goal during their first meeting and was then saved after failing to kill his firmer master/adoptive parent. For the Emperor to do this to Angron alone is out of character if taken wholly at face value, but given its perspective coming from Angron and the world not being put under him afterward reeks of the manipulation of the dark age of technology.

My emperor, watch me crank these 90's while hitting the griddy *a space marine after epic and gw collab together*

Would the emperor call angron "Angy"

My assumption is that Big E saw Angron's damage and he did his best to make sure he'd rebel--if he knew half would rebel then it'd be a smart move to make sure the least stable legion is saddled with his enemies.

36:07 I love how they're so surprised by this, but that's honestly a low casualty rate when It comes to imperials killing their own people

Angron needs a hug. Although he is now a monster, but he didn't deserve such a life. Fuck chaos and the Emperor