Yeah it’s pretty good especially considering it costs like 20 grand less

Fun fact elantra N is faster than gr corolla in roll race

@@Courtesyflush52 Power difference too

@@AwkwardYet not by much though, if any at all. The Type S is rated at 305hp at the crank, but the Elantra N has a 276 horsepower rating at the wheels, so at the crank it’s likely closer to 295-300

@@Courtesyflush52lol that's not correct brother

Loses for reliability.

Can't have it all.

It’s a Hyundai…… embarrassing.

Yes, it is impressive for the price. It's a shame Hyundai still has such a negative reputation, most of the people complaining here can't afford either 😂

@@spitfirenutspitfirenut4835Only if you’re a douche bag.

The N is definitely the best dollar for performance value wise but if money is part of your buying factor also take into account that in 5-10 years the type s will hold much more value then the N. So you would probably end up loosing more money with the N in the long term

My friend. If Hyundai decides to make the EN wider, add real sporty brakes, add wider tires and reinforce the chassis to remove braces that gap will be reduced considerably. Those little things is what make cars like the CTR and the ITS have a performance advantage in the turns over the EN. The EN is a great car but still inferior.

@@Marbindit's inferior on purpose, they want it to undercut the other cars. They could offer a better car but it would be similarly priced and then people would probably pick the staples such as the CTR. But now it offers 95% of the CTR performance for 80 % of the cost, thus being a good value and being able to draw some customers away

They actually are, especially around a track. And the Type S and R will hold they're value waaay better over the long-term.

​@@jec20721correct, the CTR and ITS maintain their value quite well, while the Elantra N depreciates relatively worse.

all are racing drivers

Don’t let this distract you from the fact Sam does shift slow

Strawman argument. If they found legitimate mistakes, it's fair game, as he uploaded himself racing.

hahhaaa...yea i thought that odd

yeah i never really trust any of the races this guy does cause its always really bad lmao

Haha

He gets spanked all the time

pretty much sums up this channel and its credibility in one go lol....

Well no shit its awd vs fwd

It really is!

@@CrimesAndCosmos just imagine an AWD Integra with DCT 🤘😅

@@CrimesAndCosmos yes exactly 💯

@@mamourhassan8768 I'd rather not. 🤮

@@papachilla what not ? AWD, DCT or Integra?

Its because this guy has a vendetta against anything VW. It's obvious how he stages his "races". Pretty sure he's driving in eco mode and doesn't know how to use boost either.. lol

There's nothing crazy about it

The Elantra is underrated specially when is octane learned. The power difference is less than that.

I think Hyundai under-rated the power kinda like BMW and Volkswagen does.

Yeah, the price difference is obliterated on resale when you realize the hyundai didn't hold any value. Used 2017 CTRs are still selling for just about msrp. The dealer that I traded my '22 elantra n into (with 45k miles) had it sitting on the lot for almost 2 months at 26k, so guessing g they took less than that in the end.

@@vjdfl5Imagine resale value being a deciding factor for a car you buy 🤡

@Symphoniics who said it was a deciding factor? You're still gonna be the clown when you to sell that thing tho 🤣 😂

@@vjdfl5 Bruh, you are dense asf

​@@vjdfl5Nice! Speculation is always good to include in an anecdotal story. In my area, a 24 ITS has been sitting for nearly 2 months at 52k. I'd rather pay half and get a used EN at that point.

As long as the enthusiasts keep buying the spicy Integra, Acura will keep making it.

@@drivescene6747 valid point

It's just a Civic Type-R re-bodied and re-badged. Enthusiasts will always buy Civic's. That's the only reason they made they Acura again.

@@carlospacheco8640 it’s always been a rebadged Civic. It’s not the only reason Acura exists.

@@drivescene6747 I know that. Not sure if you live in the US or not? Because the old 190hp Intergra Type-R B18 was the only 190hp Honda available here (Civic Type-R was never sold here). That's what made the Integra popular in the US to begin with. Thus, the only reason they made a new one is because the Civic Type-R sold well. The Civic was a test for the Integra. It's all marketing. If you think not, then you know nothing a running a business. Always remember big car companies don't really care about enthusiasts. Just money they provide. Why do you think the A80 Supra/RX-7/300zx/3000gt were all axed in the 90s here = Bad Sales.

Definitely

They're mad because he's making and selling sandwiches between his shifts or the matches are mehh. Unlike Carwow, this guy doesn't bang gears.

Because all that money went only to the engine 🤦‍♂ If Hyundai decides to release an EN with a wider body, wider tires, real high performance brakes, more power, stiffer chassis that doesn't need braces in the trunk that get in the way, fix the ugly looks, etc It will end up mid 40s. Make it a genesis and boom a 50s car.

@@lefthanded5473 no need to cope. Zero regrets, depth down all EN owners dream of having one 🤭

You dont need the brace in the trunk. It's rigid without but more rigid with. ​@Marbind

@@jugo5139 No comments

N wasnt even octane learned either

320 hp vs 276hp wow

@@popsandbangs8858 but think that elantra N is designed specifically for races which means it has engine and suspension has been tuned specifically for races moreover it is lighter comapared to others...others don't have specific race tuned engine and suspension..yet they detroyed elantra N...accept it or not any hyundai from technical perspective are lackluster...

@@rahulmondal3444 I wouldn't let the Type-S luxury fool you. It's based off the same platform the FL5 Civic Type-R, the same car that set the record time for fastest front wheel driven car at Nürburgring

Integra Type S comes standard with dash light that comes on in upper rpm range that say, "VTEC engaged Yo"

@@rahulmondal3444​​⁠​​⁠I don’t really know what you mean by the car being designed “specifically for races.” The ITS is a very close sibling to the civic type r which is designed from the ground up for track use so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make there. Not to mention that Honda has been doing this stuff for YEARS while this is pretty much Hyundai’s first attempt at a performance car. Sure the Hyundai is lighter but it’s only by about 40ish pounds and it has a 44hp deficit compared to the ITS. And it’s also 20k cheaper. I think overall the Hyundai put in a great effort and to call Hyundais work lackluster here is just completely wrong.

Golf r is also better mod for mod. Shit my mk7 gti makes 530whp with under $6000 in mods. You can’t beat that. Will also make the most on stock motor. EQT currently has 473whp out of the mk8 golf r with just an intake, intercooler, and E85. The new hybrid turbo is amazing.

yup I hate how they neuter it with a manual in all these videos and claim its slower.... like just use the transmission the car is designed for (better yet, use the best version available of the car - DSG) and compare. R wins against these two FWD everytime. No contest.

@@fast2ghl exactly how i feel ☝️☝️

DSG is boring and takes no skill to stab at the gas pedal with your foot. I have had three DSG equipped cars.

@@GTIMAN2010 blah blah blah i am not driving manual in LA rush hour

​@@howled0- or Toronto rush hour. Got rid of my manual for a faster DSG!

You have the Choice between one if the best automatic or a chocolat Clutch...sad

maybe people like cars past a 0-60 or 0-100 statistic. Unless you are taking it to the track how much does it really matter? Immature car enthusiasts really just can't understand this concept. If you want to see DSG, go watch a DSG video. Just so stupid seeing this same comment over and over

do u not see how slow sam is shifting as well? both cars could use a better driver, the integra has numbers thatll overshadow the elantra. no matter the driver this is the same outcome you will get. every single time.

N beating a mk8R? LMFAO 😂

@bp8545 watch the video. The Acura barley beat the Elantra N. But the Acura walked away from the VW.

@@bp8545 Stay sleeping better than to interfere with cars affairs 🤞

​@@johnnyturbo8460- like this video has any credibility lmao

@RDriver2.0 well it has some credit. Because we just watched it

Same for the Elantra. That damn thing has almost 50hp less.

​​@@HD_Kerinothe Elantra N are under rated in terms of hp advertisement they make more power then what's advertised also the type S is a heavier car so it did fairly well however the Elantra N dct will be the faster car from a roll from the type S and the golf r I'd like to see the golf GTI dsg against the type S though that would be a good race

​@@FB6K24Z7 "it did fairly well." No, no it didn't. Why are you a Honda piss baby? "It's a heavier car." Did you watch the video? The weight difference is 30LBS. That's nothing- that could be made up for by having different sized drivers. alone. Absolute blinding moron The Elantra N absolutely dogged on the ITS whilst being $32K and that's an absolutely pathetic showing from the miles more expensive ITS. It's once again a horrific showing from Acura they're slower than effectively all competitors. Not to mention you cannot get it with an automatic- the automatic versions of the other cars which have DCT's would absolutely trounce it.

The K5 GT looks way better than the N in my opinion

@@JustinSherrod1991 i like the K5 GT but everyone and their grandma (literally in florida) drives the regular K5s so you look like everyone else but you get everything included with the GT1 just wish it had LSD

@@JustinSherrod1991 I totally agree. I test drove both before deciding

@@Specialist7 Yeah that’s the only thing it’s missing is the LSD

@@Specialist7 No doubt, I have like four people that live on my block that have the same freaking Slate grey color in the K5. Killed it for me wanting to buy the GT version.

Driving it around town is an absolute pleasure. Smooth and effortless.

As a DCT EN owner I’ve never had a problem beating ITS or CTR. My multiple car lengths. The type S is absolutely beautiful though, I can’t deny it. It also has a better road presence.

​@@ctcdarkness People aren't buying ITS/CTR's to go drag racing. 😅

@@papachillaTrue, i have a 2nd gen nsx that on e40 right now that did a 10.4 quarter mile time. it's fast. My ITS is for daily duties with the kiddo in the back. I wanted that manual back in my life. I also own a few Teslas and they are good for dragging but not the same fun.

@@JohnNguyenVincent Nailed it! I've seen your channel, thanks for the content John!

1) It was a manual EN 2) CTR/ITS gearing isn't optimized for high speed stuff 3) The ITS will have a similar CTR outcome due to the improper gearing for high speed stuff. 4 vs 3 Final Drive ratios is a LOT.

@@Marbind I musta have misread it. I assumed it was a DCT. If it's a manual that's even more impressive because the DCT models are much quicker although maybe similar to 150mph. Also car and driver themselves cited it was drag from the spoiler causing it's weaker performance. The gearing in the Type R is perfectly fine even if it's a bit taller. Have you ever seen a Camaros gearing? That is the definition of a tall gear lol

@@ayushmalpeddi2793 People confuse tall with high gearing ratios. The higher the ratios the lower is the top speed ceiling. CTRs ratios are pretty high. EN are lower The Camaro has even lower ratios.

worst shifting i ever seen

Dude can't drive. There's no way the Golf should've lost by that much. In racing, if you're looking behind, you're losing time. Sam spends the entire race looking behind him to see where the other car is. Don't worry about the other car, just drive yours. Every time you look behind, you fall behind. Just focus on the finish line

he took 3 business days to shift.

The manual Golf R does not run 13.6. They easily run 13.1. Sam strikes again 😂😂😂😂😂

@@MaxMediaGroupLLC The surface doesn't look nearly as prepped as a proper drag strip. That alone could easily make up the difference...

Doesn't matter. The outcome will not change.

@@Marbindit sure made a difference at 9:40 when it was in proper gear

He doesn't know how to properly drive a manual. Shame..

Dct Elantra would be closer.

I mean considering I’ve walked a dsg MK8R in a roll your sentiment isn’t completely accurate. I was Octane leaned. Non octane learned in a roll he had me by a car length. Much closer than you want to admit.

carwow did a race between golf r and new type r and it won in drag and roll races so this channel is either biased or manual is bad or they can't change gears

​@@ctcdarkness​​ I walked Elantra N in a stock Gti soo... Are you saying gti is quicker than a golf r? Edmunds made a video about the 2 saying the gti is overall better and it beat the Elantra if you don't believe me, but there's no video of R getting gapped by Elantra cuz it's all cap.

I have never seen the Mk8 R perform this badly, not even close.

Is absurd and illogical.

@@Marbind Right? It's almost like they not only increased the torque but also the horsepower.

@@wolf7elite7 Boost still up during shifts + quick upshifts + one more gear is the secret behind the Golf R DSG awesome acceleration

IDK were you were living or how old you are but the early KSeries were among the best sounding N/A 4cyl out there. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Because they are comparing manuals.

No Sam is just a terrible driver

None of them were designed as drag race cars they're hot hatches lol

@@t4cot4cticalthe Golf R with the DSG would beg to differ. That thing is a rocket.

Man the DSG is soo much quicker 😂

VW has always been a very fast car

I mean same can be said for the DCT in the Kona and Elantra, these cars shift fast as fuck

​@@Grimesittybut it's simply not a good a transmission as the DSG which was aided in development by Porsche and has been around for well over a decade. The Hyundai DCT is a lot more clunky in normal driving but performance wise is very close

@@roboticvenom1935 clunky for sure I own one, sometimes sounds like a train coming down the tracks haha but it's helped me win a few close races no doubt 😂 I own a 23 Kona N

DSG is for non skilled people that want to go fast. Accessibility Mode ON

A3

Drag race seemed good but something wrong with the roll races.

​@@sjhudon386- ya it is called Driver Mod needed lol

I promise you mine is faster. Her had a slow one.

Sam just can’t shift

It won't walk the ITS, stop that wet dream of yours.

From what I’ve heard it’s almost impossible for MT owners to get their cars octane learned so I’m gonna assume that it wasn’t.

Oh wow. Okay I have not heard that. I'm sure it's true though because it's hard as hell to get it done in my DCT. Which also means it would have walked the integra auto or manual if it was.

The Hyundai lost, stop making excuses.

Sure against a tuned ITS/CTR to even the advantage of the DCT.

​@@MarbindThats not how it works Mr. Elantra N hater. I see you on all these comments.

@@C_Santiago7 so, the DCT isn’t an advantage 🤡🤡🤡🤡

the most hilarious thing about it is in canada the msrp for the ITS is 58k CAD, and 51.8k USD in the states which is 70k CAD. thats a 12k CAD discount for us

👍

And unreliable. I have seen so many of these fail and need repairs, on the other hand I have seen those Honda engines go up to 200k with close to zero issues

​@@514aamdon't let the secret out, you going to offend N owners big time

@@514aam I will say they do have an industry leading warranty. I have a 2019 Elantra GT N Line I love it and I'll keep it forever it has a 10 year bumper to bumper warranty. Just wish they would have made it the full N version like in Europe's I30N version.

​@@514aamtype r engines are toast after 100k

Yes it's fancier, nobody doubts that. I'd be absolutely EMBARRASSED to barely walk away from a car that apparently doesn't compete.

@@SethKnows That is you. I wont be embarrassed at all. Is walking away and with style. 🤭

@@Marbind they are sexier, that's for sure

​@@Marbindtlx and intergra are overpriced

@@eduardodelgado7873 in 2024 everything is overpriced. Is called inflation 😉

I haven't watched yet, but this comment makes me happy, lol. Usually, people are commenting that Sam shifts poorly😁

@@tizodd6I think he’s being sarcastic because Sam still shifts like crap in this video. Over a second between shifts.

@@typesredline Ohhh lol😂 Same old Sam then

@@tizodd6 I was being genuine, I’d say he was pretty amateur before but recently his shifting is on point. Just compare videos from a year ago to up recently. Not to mention the skills to adapt to a new vehicle in less than 24 hours

Whats that?

@@SamCarLegion Club Sport - its not available here in canada so you can't test it.

And?

And I'll take the slower car with a Manny tranny. "I drive the car, the car doesn't drive me"

who cares about the dsg no still requires

@@renaldoharris7951 no still required indeed

so? the manual is infinitely more fun and will outlast the shitty dsg.

Underrated. In reality it has more hp.

​@@Eugen-Edepends on the fuel. If they go 91-93 octane, it should be near 300-310. Regardless, for a full 10k less than the golf r, it really shows how incredible it is

@@Eugen-E in Germany the N has 20 HP more as Hyundai claimed 😅

The N is a solid car . I'd buy one but correct I've never seen a stock N in any tranny beating a Golf R except for this channel. Lol.

Octane learned and non octane learned make a huge difference. Over 1/2 a second over the 1/4 and trap 5-6 mph faster over non octane learned. Octane learning makes 40+ wtq more and 20-40whp more over non ol. Octane learned I’ve walked a MK8R dsg. Non octane learned he walked me. It makes that much of a difference sadly, it’s the most stupid thing Hyundai could’ve put in the EN. And it’s ridiculously so much harder to octane learn the manual over the DCT.

@@ctcdarkness Theres vids of GTIs beating Ns without octane learn (DSG/DCT) and even with 91 Octane learned (Seems like you really need access to 93). Definitely one of the worst things hyundai could've done, but havent seen any beat Rs.

@@xibbas7055 - Again the N is a car that I have now noticed. Car has entered a new class and I would buy one over the new bland Subaru WRX or even the racer boy Civic. The Civic would be lit if I was 20 again lol. But I have never seen any video of the N beating a Golf R (even stock) or even a GTI. I don't consider this channel to be even remotely credible.

@@RDriver2.0 This channel is the least credible of them all honestly. No N is ever gonna beat a Golf R stock for stock. The paper statistic will show this time and time again. But here we are with another video where they intentionally neuter the R with a manual transmission and claim its slow. Use a DSG car and laugh all the way down the track as you shit on both of these FWD cars. But we wont see that here on this channel so.....

The vehicles need to be leveled on the start line. The one on the left is always further back, for both the roll and drag

Price for performance I agree the N is the best value. But if you also take into account resale value in 5-10 years you would end up losing all of that value saved up front in the N compared to the type s

My 2024 R is a manual. You're welcome.

I have 2 acuras tsx boring then sweeet g3 TL manual aspec 100% epic car ❤it. Then had to get the German beast b7 rs4 it's absolutely 💯 % perfect 👌

@@lancegallant3647 I love my 06 tsx 6mt, its a blast to drive it daily. in it's time its a real sports luxury even to this day. it doesnt have to be fast to be fun, the transmission is solid, and the legendary k24a2 is still holding strong @7600 rpms.

"like it or not." So is we have a BMW m240i vs the ITS then who's the real winner? The Integra is not a real winner starting SIDE BY SIDE the Elantra N which is a $32K car. That's PATHETIC given its price. What a low performance vehicle LOL, and they have the option for automatic which is what most buyers will get and will smoke that Integra

@@roboticvenom1935​​⁠​⁠someone clearly isn’t a Honda fan… you’re comparing a car with close to 400 horsepower AND potentially optioned in AWD AND an i6. The BMW is priced better because the type-s is literally 10x more desirable by the car community and ITS is a 4 door hatch (meaning they’re in completely different classes…) And yes, they still sell more integra Type-S’ than the 240i’s. You really seem to have no clue what you’re talking about.. the Elantra N is a great car for the money, but you’re not buying an Elantra N to keep them for 30 years lol keep reading motor trend magazines and car and driver reviews!

@@roboticvenom1935 I traded in a G42 M240 for an ITS and couldn’t be happier. So much more engaging to drive on the day to day and I’ll take the added practicality of the backseat and hatch. The M240 from a dig is blisteringly fast but the lack of manual is just sad. The B58 is legendary.

Literally almost the same price as aq50/q60 red sport 😂 still will smoke all 3

Hyundai brokeboys only know one flavor - salty.

I believe Throttle House compared the FK8 to the new FL5(same times as the Type S) and the newer car is unfortunately slower in a straight line. I believe the track performance is slightly better than the FK8 if I remember right…

@@justwingingit1 yeah I remember seeing that video lol. I have an fk8 and would love to race a type s from a roll .

Drivers race. They are more similar than different.

Not really

​@vicktharula8317wdym not really? It literally shit on the ITS by staying side by side whilst being a $32K car what a joke

​@@vicktharula8317 Spit out the Hater-aide.

@@roboticvenom1935Lol dictating the car’s value solely on straight line speed is the dumbest thing I’ve heard. The Type-S is rightfully more expensive considering all the things it does better than the Elantra, not to mention it will be worth a LOT more down the road.

It’s lighter

You must be racing driver

It would be a similar outcome.

@@Marbind similar in what way? both cars lost to the type r… would like to see if how far elantra is pulling over the golf over a roll race

@@emjhaye it doesnt pull lol.... plenty of videos online to show you that...

I have an ITS. I know the EN DCT is faster and the 6MT is pretty close. In a straight line. Despite all that, I still sleep comfortably at night. What kills the EN is how fugly it is.🤷‍♂

How did you come up with that?

Yeah sure 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@user-om1eh1nh2w Korea weeps 😭😭😭🍼🍼🍼

​@Nbaby-jjusjjoe wasn't this N octane learned yet 😂

If costs 50% more than the Elantra you dingus

Korea left the chat 😂😂

It costs 50% more than the Hyundai and was even on the roll, that's pathetic. These are performance cars. The Acura is based on a Honda and has weak luxury doesn't even have rear heated seats

@@roboticvenom1935 Even if it was for an inch a win is a win. The EN can be cheaper but that car is so ugly that should be considered a capital sin. But things dont end up there. Chassis needs visible brace support behind the seats, no real performance brakes, no wide body, no wide tires. All those little things add up and for that reason it always ends behind the CTR and the ITS. The only area that is better is in straight line acceleration but only applies to the DCT.

@@Marbindat least the Elantra won’t over heat like the Fl5 the Elantra is honestly more track ready completely stock it doesn’t need any cooling mods just tires, brake pads and camber.

@@Marbindat least the Elantra won’t over heat like the Fl5 the Elantra is honestly more track ready completely stock it doesn’t need any cooling mods just tires, brake pads and camber.

The new one isn’t.

Subjective bro, you can't treat your opinion like facts Many people love the look

😂😂😂

@@g0d182 says the guy who is obsessed with the FK8 and thinks it’s the best looking car in the world. Take your own advice 😂😂😂

@@drivescene6747 Nope all false claims. I have a list of reasonably top car designs publicly available, and fk8 is definitely not on top as you claim. ●..and I always say this stuff is reasonably subjective

Dude he shift quick but someone dared to say that it was a slowshifter that doesn't know how to drive a manual.

@@Marbind maybe they meant the commentator sucks. He always shifts slow. But to be fair it isn't his car so he doesn't want to hurt it and he also isn't nearly as familiar with it as the owner. That's why I wish he would have stayed in the Acura and not moved over to the vw. that skewed the results imo.

@@nvrdwn3140 Nope, he meant the non host guy.

That's who should've driven the elantra

@@viewsunderscope The elantra guy did a good job too. It was shifting super fast.

Long throw

They can't be launched hard either.

Full second slower to 60 and 1/4 mile. 😂

They are all manuals bro

Guy in Type S is a great driver

Disagree, the ITS driver did an outstanding job given the conditions. Is a faster shifter than Sam. Look again. In cold weather is very but very unlikely that a FWD will have enough grip to be able to take out a Golf R from a dig. Draggy still a simulation.

@@Marbind ​ @1bojanbojan both of you need your eyes tested. Either he's paying you or got something on you that you are scared shit to tell him to his face.

@@precisionmotors That is funny. I thought the same about you. Maybe you are the president of his fan club. Watch the video again. Others had mentioned the same. Pay attention every time Sam shifts in the ITS how it loses momentum.

He’s actually a pretty good driver. The ITS lost because the Golf had the AWD advantage off the line. The ITS won every other race