Which Armor Will Get You Killed? Steel vs Ceramic

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In this episode of Administrative Results we revisit the the shotty science methods and pit AR500 Steel Armor against Level 4 Ceramic Armor. AR500 reached out and sent me the curved plate with the extra spall protection to help with the frag damage. The the level 4 ceramic body armor was of my personal collection.
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00:00 Mind Blowing Intro
01:04 do your part
01:20 thanks SDI
01:50 the science test
03:54 Guns for test
04:11 shooting steel plate
08:33 Arm Poster enjoyer
08:50 ceramic testing
10:53 the results
All magazines used are less than 29 rounds.

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@CorkKNIFE Жыл бұрын

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@AndyE30 Жыл бұрын

The Talking Baklava

@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын

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@TorchyThePyro Жыл бұрын

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@mouseblackcat5263 Жыл бұрын

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@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын

@@TorchyThePyro "Baklava is a layered pastry dessert made of filo pastry, filled with chopped nuts, and sweetened with syrup or honey. It was one of the most popular sweet pastries of Ottoman cuisine." TIL the Ottoman empire is greek.

@Embassy_of_Jupiter Жыл бұрын

This man doesn't even try to be monetized. Massive respect.

@methoxeta Жыл бұрын

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@combativeThinker Жыл бұрын

@@methoxeta Just because a video has ads doesn’t mean the person who posted the video profits from those ads.

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SDI is an Ad Read from the Content Creator. Monetization is per x number of views and YouScrew Ads. Being Demonitized means you get nothing from YouScrew, no matter how many views or how many ads YouScrew inserts in your videos. Hence the Ad Reads and merch sales by creators.

@Heywood_yablowme Жыл бұрын

because he profits from multiple universes 🤫

@jesseduncan9612 Жыл бұрын

When I first started in law enforcement in the late 1980's, all soft body armor came with a steel "trauma plate" that went in the middle of the front the carrier and was supposed to help protect your sternum. They stopped using the steel plate in the early nineties due to the spall from hitting the steel plate causing injuries. Most vests now come with an pocket to add an extra layer of soft armor to help protect the sternum. I had a guy punch me in the chest while wearing one of the steel plate inserts. He broke his hand.

@JeremiahDaniel1995 Жыл бұрын

Steel wins 😂

@michaelgross7016 Жыл бұрын

Ah, I remember those steel trauma plates. And yup, they did away with that approach. I was down in the warehouse one day and there were crates full of old steel trauma plates. I asked if I could take one, they said sure. I ended up putting it in my new issue vest.....so it was a kevlar vest with a steel trauma plate, and a kevlar trauma plate on top of that. The theory was that if something went through the outer kevlar trauma plate, it would strike the steel and get stopped cold.....and any deflection or Spalding would be minimized by the outer kevlar plate. I dont know if our logic was sound.....but that's how we felt in the late 1990s , early 2000s.....and in the last year or 2, steel trauma plates are making a comeback.

@jordansell10 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelgross7016 Now that you say it like that. That seems like the way to go

@kaydnburns5935 2 күн бұрын

Why i wear ceramic and if i can find one, will wear a softbody carrier. I just dont like softbody cause it only protects against small pistols and when you do get shot its ganna break bones. Ceramic plates will stop basically any gun 99% of civilians own, absorbs energy by fracturing AND spreads that lessened energy over the entire area of the plate (No bruises/Broken bones). Ceramic plates should be standard everywhere and are in militaries. If we can combine ceramics with polymerization we could create iron man type armor where its movable yet brittle and hard as diamond.

@boomstick3927 9 ай бұрын

I can't believe this dude knew I was on the toilet taking a dump! Good job!

@lucianofraga5236 2 ай бұрын

Bro same 😂

@chiefro7 Жыл бұрын

Genuinely laughed out loud at the “spalding damage”. Bravo sir, bravo.

@ryno9677 Жыл бұрын

Good thing Dale had that armor on. That 9mm could’ve blown his lung out

@lostaudio Жыл бұрын

For those who don't get the reference it's referencing to Joe Biden saying that "9mm blows the lung out of the body".

@isaacwestling1141 Жыл бұрын

Leaving an exit wound a foot wide too!!!

@DoroteoVilla Жыл бұрын

How does the ceramic hold up against an F-15? Going to have to take that possibility into account nowadays.

@Nijinja Жыл бұрын

@@DoroteoVilla how does an NIJ IV hold up against 15 Satan II ICBMs? Find out next time on

@izmakk4006 Жыл бұрын

@@DoroteoVilla the fact that our president has this perception proves that it's actually clowns that rule the world, and not the juice industry.

@thecolossalwang2308 Жыл бұрын

I walk away from this with a greater respect for steel honestly. Here’s what I see ceramic has to offer. Higher single shot threat capability, lighter weight, zero or minimal spalling, maybe a more comfortable profile since it’s a bit thicker than a steel plate. Here’s what I see steel having to offer. Higher multi shot capabilities, massive shelf life, easy to produce and therefore rather inexpensive. But here’s my main issue. While the ceramic plate had zero spalling, it did have a catastrophic failure in that it let a common cartridge (despite the 20 inch barrel [77gr which is slower anyway]) pass clean through which would mortally wound you. A deep laceration or even frag stuck in your facial tissue or neck is brutal but without medical help a gut shot is a death sentence. In SHTF all ceramic plates would also be worthless 5 years down the road because they’d expire. Everyone will be running around with steel, just a note. I think a steel plate with a build up and spall sleeve is the best option. It’s not unrealistic for a swat guy to kick down a door and get hit 3-4 times in the chest with a pistol followed by a common rifle. In that decimal of a chance, he’d suffer a wound he wouldn’t have suffered with steel. Obviously he wouldn’t want to expose himself, but again, shit happens. I think hating steel is the new dig. But weight (despite the difference being fairly drastic in some cases) aside, a build up coated multi curve III+ lightweight plate with a spall sleeve actually seems like it would perform better in virtually every way than a ceramic plate and cost half the price most often. Higher multi hit protection, zero or minimal frag, better value and pricing, long shelf life, and at the very least possible to make on your own. If there’s anything I may be overlooking I’d love to know

@eddietonore2813 Жыл бұрын

I actually love steel in a lot of applications, it’s a tool and different tools work for different jobs. One more consideration though: bouyancy. If you live on or near water, or conduct/plan to conduct any maritime type operations, steel is about the worst thing you can pick. Poly will help keep you from drowning furiously if you were to fall in the water. Just a thought.

@thecolossalwang2308 Жыл бұрын

@@eddietonore2813 That’s a phenomenal outlook and something I failed to consider. I’m very glad you brought that up because even in non military applications sometimes you might have to cross a river and 20+lbs of steel that is very negatively buoyant would make a huge difference. Add another tally to the ceramic/poly score my friend

@davestrider9684 Жыл бұрын

@@thecolossalwang2308 Ceramic plates are not at all buoyant either. You will still sink like a brick if you fall into water with ceramic plates on. So ceramic and steel are both equally bad in that regard. The only option with buoyancy is poly plates, which are otherwise similar to ceramic but outrageously expensive.

@davestrider9684 Жыл бұрын

Something else to note is durability. Ceramic breaks down in extreme heat or cold (not even super extreme, just like below 30 or above 90 degrees) and can crack if it takes a hard impact. Steel has neither of these drawbacks. You can toss a plate carrier with steel plates in the trunk of your car and leave it in there for 10 years, through 110 degree summers and -10 degree winters, and it’s still going to perform. With ceramic you might just get thumped in the chest by a baseball bat and lose the integrity of your armor. Or be forced to expose it to extreme heat or cold for a week... and lose the integrity of your armor. Steel beats ceramic in every way that matters with the exception of spalling, which can be reasonably mitigated with a good coating of anti-spall.

@baraka629 Жыл бұрын

the future will be composite armour with ERA bricks. you get shot? just have bits of your chest rig explode back at the assailant!

@N_A_HussL_N Жыл бұрын

I just now discovered you and now you are literally my favorite… keep it up man

@LiquidForce142 Жыл бұрын

If I may make a suggestion, I think too many people focus on projectile impacts that are normal to the strike face. I would be curious to see how both types of plates react when struck at 45°. If the target had his arms up in a c-clamp grip, with a projectile essentially ride the strike face and end up in his brachial artery? NIJ standard is for perpendicular impacts, but I think that spec is do for some updating. For science.

@AdministrativeResults Жыл бұрын

I'm down to try different angles

@SnifferSock Жыл бұрын

@@AdministrativeResults 😏

@TheJBerg Жыл бұрын

@@AdministrativeResults Note that for the steel plates, the spawling will probably come into play. It's an extra 50-75 "addon" that is critical to plates protecting you from the shrapnel. The angle I'm worried about is it nailing me in the chin or the toe/knee.

@samuelwahls8315 Жыл бұрын

@@AdministrativeResults that's what she said

@kyleherman84 Жыл бұрын

Ar500 is not NIJ certified as of 3 year ago I am too lazy check just fyi.

@SanctuaryReintegrate Жыл бұрын

Remember bros, whether you have steel or ceramic, the best defense is evasion. Armor is only there to give your medic a chance at saving you when you do get lit up.

@bornwarmachine1638 Жыл бұрын

Sounds nice, having alot of mobility is nice. Not so much for people who are not as mobile as you... ever had to suffer through fire to get interest out of a red zone, to move support though bombed out areas on foot? Just trying to get people not nearly as hardened as you through the blood muck and shit? Trust me you would hate not having that heavy ass armor more than the slow fucking civilian that is actually making a difference.

@bornwarmachine1638 Жыл бұрын

Heros are just assholes who take fire for the people doing real work... Your mobility means jack shit if you can't take punishment for the people around you.

@KoishiVibin Жыл бұрын

Yes, and no. generally speaking, of the 40% hitrate of your torso, the plate protects... hmm. Maybe 50%? Like, you can fit another plate on your torso, about, and still not quite get coverage, but that's if you define torso as being abdominal and pelvic... Bygones! [] an armor plate covers the vitals. *You will NOT DIE unless you suffer MAJOR ARTERIAL WOUNDS and even then you have enough blood in the body to stay up and combat capable for at least 45 seconds.* The FBI found that having your heart obliterated is still 10-15 sec combat effective due to blood circulating, you will live with a puny little graze or GSW through nothing important. [] rifle class hard armor *will keep you up.* Against centerfire rifle threats, the deformation effect has a very low chance of ever taking you down, and it basically can't kill you unless you're comically unlucky. Unless you bought your ceramic plate from Fujian, China, or something. I can't speak for steel, it MIGHT be worse? [] If you don't get T-zoned or CNS'ed, and you have the mental fortitude, even a skinny little teenage girl from nowhereston USA can tank surprising amounts of damage. What really gets you in the end is pain, and the ability to handle, or not handle it.

@bornwarmachine1638 Жыл бұрын

@@KoishiVibin First back deformation on a plate is extremely important, it manages to break ribs and push them into the lungs. No lungs no air, 45 seconds until you drown in your own blood is a mercy killing at best. Second alot of people are using swimming cuts lately and it does effect coverage, considerably. Special ops and bare roll cages are super cool but don't have any kinda place in rough attrition. You have to move civilians from point a to point b without vehicles and they are carrying maybe 100 pounds each in food and medicine? What would you do? For every one of them killed 20 people will starve. So any percentage to get the real damn heros through the line at the cost of your own comfort because of reduced weight plates assuming you can get more after they are all jacked up because of dynamic motion is the difference between life and death of hundreds, nay thousands of people.

@bornwarmachine1638 Жыл бұрын

@@KoishiVibin to be fair I really liked your take on this. 🤌

@landrecce Жыл бұрын

Oh man I'm such a fan of this channel! Frigging amazing stuff!

@AARonGoneWrong Жыл бұрын

I laughed so hard at Spalding damage when you threw the basketball it’s absurd. Thank you for that.

@GustheGunGuy Жыл бұрын

I'm at work so I'm gonna have to watch the video later, just stopping by to say I love you and none of the people on Epstein's client list have been arrested yet

@SecNotSureSir Жыл бұрын

Well said, Gus.

@zacharydurocher4085 Жыл бұрын

Looks like they have their backs covered by a couple friends

@thomasr11 Жыл бұрын

I love this community

@AdministrativeResults Жыл бұрын

Have a good day at work Gus

@robertpatter5509 Жыл бұрын

@@zacharydurocher4085 Their back blast area is clear.

@jnloredo Жыл бұрын

The only problem with these types of tests is the same plate is used over and over again. After getting hit with the first 5 rounds the coating is getting compromised and thus will fail more easily. For a real test of the spalling capture is to use a new plate each time for each caliber round. Then keep track of how many rounds it takes for the coating to start failing. Now this is only for the coating capabilities, not the plate itself.

@ClickClack_Bam Жыл бұрын

I agree. It's actually a testament to the strength of metal plates that they can take so many rounds before failing. As you've said it should be a new plate every time but that would up the cost significantly of this type of testing.

@Eokek Жыл бұрын

I dont think it is, the whole point of steel plates is they're supposed to take more hits than ceramic. If the anti spall coating only lasts 4-5 rounds its effectively the same durability as ceramic but heavier and less consistent at preventing spall.

@reposter6434 Жыл бұрын

i get it man, but tbf these plates do cost alot, but for it to be fair new plates should be used for each fired round.

@Eokek Жыл бұрын

@@reposter6434 Not really, you can get a set of hesco l210s or 4400s for a couple hundred more than a set of ar500s. If $2-300 on a one time purchase is a deal breaker then you should probably re evaluate your priorities.

@shadownaught Жыл бұрын

@@reposter6434 bending and coating the steel is the expensive part. I make shooter cut plates from US wear plate that can handle a shitload of strikes for about $40. We use one plate for a target that has taken upwards of 200 strikes, pistol and crappy rifle ammo.

@djvelocity Жыл бұрын

I know absolutely nothing about firearms but this is so entertaining! I just found your channel and I am loving going through all of your videos! 😳🤯🙌🤩

@nicolasconnell6172 Жыл бұрын

One of the best content creators I've seen. Watched a BUNCH A VIDS. Keep it up bud!

@kalashnikovbob355 Жыл бұрын

thanks to the growing up with unsupervised access to the internet i can confirm that the fal shot to the dome at point blank is pretty realistic.

@antthefool7637 Жыл бұрын

Sheesh

@alexfaudel5245 Жыл бұрын

Lol we might've gotten flashbacks to the same video. 3 round burst, black rifle, basketball shorts and flip flops?

@activatekruger446 Жыл бұрын

@@alexfaudel5245 Lemme guess, Brazil?

@creekshoeoperator Жыл бұрын

Ahhh let’s see Paul Allen’s ceramic and steel armor🥴

@Meatwaggon Жыл бұрын

Oh my god, it even has a watermark.

@juangonzalez9848 Жыл бұрын

Ooo. Taking a dump whilst eating my coffee and drinking my beer. You know my morning routine too well.

@cavemanlovesmoke4394 Жыл бұрын

Love this channel my dude 🙌

@nf1 Жыл бұрын

I love body armor testing and seeing what common rounds can defeat it. I've heard 55g out of a 20 inch barrel defeats a lot of level 3

@vicnighthorse Жыл бұрын

Watch Buffman for more thorough but less theatrical testing. I am not at all using 'theatrical' a pejorative. Theatrical is a good thing when not used to describe your significant other.

@MoH_Dank Жыл бұрын

This is true. lvl 3 is not rated for 3000+ fps which can be done with a 20in barrel and 55g

@warrenharrison9490 Жыл бұрын

Speed kills.

@squidy4082 Жыл бұрын

Long barrel 556 will always be king, cringe af to see all these short barrels

@JohnSmith-yx8kf Жыл бұрын

Check out Military Arms Channel's testing of the Hesco L210s. Stopped an M855A1 out of a 20". Super impressive.

@chthulu27 Жыл бұрын

For extracting your shrapnel fragments, you might want some hemostats (sometimes more commonly called clamps, long slender alligator gripping surgical tool that locks on the back). Super handy for a wide variety of things and absolutely a dream for extracting just about anything from a tight space, in whatever medium you want.

@AldoSchmedack Жыл бұрын

Should keep in med kit to clamp off bleeders too. Esp where a tournie won't work.

@QuestionableConcepts 3 ай бұрын

@AldoSchmedack Now I just want to see ya'lls medic kits. I do the standard break down: -Trauma(standard kit for arterial bleeds with onehand tourniquets and clamps) -Bleed (packing and compression) -Ortho(Sam splints etc for stabalization) -Airway Medicine/oxygen kits excluded unless called for

@chthulu27 3 ай бұрын

@QuestionableConcepts , I'm still working on building mine, but my wife is an ER nurse and is helping me. She can also get some of the harder to find goodies.

@QuestionableConcepts 3 ай бұрын

@chthulu27 that's great man! Even providone iodine (from reliable medicalgrade producers) can be hard to purchase in some areas as a consumer.

@chthulu27 3 ай бұрын

@QuestionableConcepts , yeah, it's really weird. Some stuff she's able to "acquire" just isn't available in stores that I've seen. I don't know why. Maybe there's just not enough public sector demand to justify the cost of trying to sell something almost no one knows how to really use? I have no idea. The stuff doesn't seem terribly complicated, so I'm not sure why it's so annoying to get ahold of.

@reaper_suicide993gaming5 Жыл бұрын

Why you always busting me out in the morning when I'm crapping lol💯🤣🤣

@romchik07 Жыл бұрын

Man you are both hilarious and very informative! Subscribed!😂😂😂

@seanjarnigan8978 Жыл бұрын

Steel spauling is similar to issues they experienced in the bow and arrow days. Back then the added small ramps or flaring at the edges of the breast plate to divert arrows away from the neck and head. I wonder why thats not been tried in modern times

@Chicano_pistolero Жыл бұрын

Spalling is negated by the coating and the plate carrier itself… there’s dozens of incidents online of guys in Ukraine and the Middle East using steel plates effectively

@arighteousname5882 Жыл бұрын

@@Chicano_pistolero liar

@craigsteinkamp12 Жыл бұрын

Now I’m picturing a revival of old school armor and I’m here for it

@thalesofmiletus6162 Жыл бұрын

@@arighteousname5882 how is he lying?

@Osprey1994 Жыл бұрын

@@thalesofmiletus6162 The steel wouldn't be perfectly flat, and as he said the head wouldn't be where it was in this video. There are videos showing how bad spall of an AR500 plate can be and it's terrifying. We should also add that steel plates are incredibly heavy, and that depending on what you are likely to encounter you can choose between lightweight special threat plates or work your way up to some heavier ceramic level 4 plates which I have seen range from 6-8lbs per plate. The AR 500 plates start at 8 and go up to 9.5lbs if you choose the thick coating. Then of course you have poly plates that can stop M80 and M193, and I bet you can find some that are rated higher than lvl 3 that would take M855A1. These plates are light, and help you maintain mobility which is key to staying alive.

@dedrahn7024 Жыл бұрын

I was shot in ceramic when i served over seas and spauling occurs regardless of the type of plate. I would also like to see people test armor how it is supposed to be used. NIJ level 3 is intended for 4-5 hits of 7.62 max..most other armors to include NIJ level 4 is rated for one hit of 30-06AP max. Too many "armor tests" take the stance of lets take one plate and throw 40rnds at it and then go "oh my god the spauling killed him and the plate didnt last." Armor is a just in case, even in the service we swapped plates every patrol whether we took a hit or not, and relied on tactics and cover. Armor of any type will get the layman weekend warrior killed without education and training, especially with these types of "testing". As entertainment its fine but please people learn before you rely on KZfaq for your education.

@TheInfantry98 Жыл бұрын

Civilians aren’t very smart for that bro. We never switched out our SAPI plates unless someone got hit. Your putting too much faith into civilians intelligence regarding real world firearm usage

@TheInfantry98 Жыл бұрын

I find it extremely weird that you swapped SAPI every patrol. I say that cuz we would patrol outside the wire for days on end, in which we would NEVER carry additional SAPI plates with us cuz that would be extremely dumb lmao

@dedrahn7024 Жыл бұрын

@@TheInfantry98 We never carried extra SAPI outside the fence..but once we got back from a route we did swap plates when we saw S3 for resupply...only time we did have extra off FOB was when in convoy to another location...medical unit so we were rather well supplied at all times

@Jeremyjsnrbu Жыл бұрын

🧢

@blackbilly1965 Жыл бұрын

Good advice sir

@downriver6434 Жыл бұрын

Someone needs to do this test with a carrier with ALL the doodads, doohikies and battle rattle attached. Loaded rifle and pistol mags, I phone, peanut chews and all strapped to it. Watch the pieces fly regardless of what plate you have.

@liamkaspers2342 Жыл бұрын

Yo, i'm new to your channel but i just wanted to say that i like your content. Pretty funny. Thanks for the vid! Have a good one.

@L-H-B Жыл бұрын

For me, what this test brings to mind are automotive crash tests when comparing 1950s cars to modern day vehicles. Those highway boats would absolutely HOUSE 40-50 mph crashes and only need some paint touch up, yet the same speed crashes for modern cars look like a T-rex chewed it up. The result I care about is what happens to the people inside the car, not the car itself. Ceramic plate technology mimics the principles of the "crumple zone", whereas steel achieves ballistic "protection" via sheer hardness, i.e. Abrasion Resistance 500. The ceramic protection comes out looking messed up, but helps keep the person behind it safe.

@AbnormallyDisfigured Жыл бұрын

you forgot to mention the backface deformation that ceramic had compared to the steel. this will tell you how safe it keeps the person.

@jamesw9223 Жыл бұрын

Great input, I agree

@bornwarmachine1638 Жыл бұрын

No seat belt? Bucket seats? What could go wrong?

@ben10mama Жыл бұрын

My concern is the steel did keep the bullets out of the wearer after extended shots where the ceramic caved and was penetrated. I could see if I'm in a situation where I'm not gonna have access to plates other than what I'm wearing and in an extended fire fight, steel might be preferred

@AbnormallyDisfigured Жыл бұрын

@@ben10mama I've yet to see a level 3/3+ steel plate show as much back deformation as a ceramic plate that has been compromised. also imagine buying ceramic plates 4-5 years prior to a SHTF scenario, and you can't have Fedex ship you a new pair. this is why I own steel. little bit of weight training to make those extra 5-8 pounds disappear. spall covers. and you're set for decades. my neighbor has had an ar500 3/8"x8" circle he's shot at since 92 and it hasn't cracked or shown any signs of it being compromised, after being shot thousands and thousands of times.

@craigsteinkamp12 Жыл бұрын

Admin Results let’s get the demonetization out of the way real quick KZfaq: Obliterates the ballistics gel head

@Ravencof Жыл бұрын

Welcome to Administrative Results! Technically we're Garand Thumb on a Budget! No knocking, love the content and been following for ages!

@benjaminsnyder4352 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all that you do.

@deathraydave Жыл бұрын

He kinda cute tho

@mikehawkslong5529 Жыл бұрын

Got a dump truck too

@robertpatter5509 Жыл бұрын

Oh he drives a dump truck, has diesel and ammo? Oh my.

@mikehawkslong5529 Жыл бұрын

@@robertpatter5509 he is the dump truck 😏

@jeremiahjohnson3018 Жыл бұрын

So you're telling me that my SKS is far more deadly than my AR is to someone wearing a steel plate.

@sullathehutt7720 Жыл бұрын

Me sitting here with my RPK: 😎

@TheDiameter Жыл бұрын

Absolutely it is

@BCG69 Жыл бұрын

considering that the spall coating isnt self healing I'm surprised the steel armor kept spalling from being deadly as long as it did. After the 556 you could see how the coating was completely delaminating from the steel.

@shawnsanders9450 Жыл бұрын

No. Your AR is more deadly. Speed kills armor.

@clawwill34 Жыл бұрын

I love seeing people hate on 762x39 or any AK platform... training is what kills . The guy who trains religiously with his rifle is damn dangerous. I don't care what armor you wear nor how much.

@dawsonbergondo33 Жыл бұрын

Dude i was literally sitting on the toilet when you said that. Your the man!

@redastley5872 Жыл бұрын

great video as always!

@taterprintsgats Жыл бұрын

Bro, I -only- watch Admin. Results when I'm taking my morning dump. There's my sacrifice. Thanks for being amazing 👏

@mikeapplegate9197 Жыл бұрын

Definitely my new favorite channel. Alot of talent and hard work goes into these short stories and I'm always wondering what ol Admin and his crew or cooking up for next vid. Keep up the flow, your killin it brother.

@jamesgorvett3038 Жыл бұрын

Bro I've just found your videos plz keep up the good work

@roymorris710 Жыл бұрын

Good job 👍 keep up the good work bro

@surgeace444 Жыл бұрын

I love your humor and content! I really hope you can gain more funds to get a torso test part too. To really see how the armor holds up with the upper body

@SatanasExMachina Жыл бұрын

I have a friend that double stacks a thin level 3 Kevlar weave plate over his steel, the concept being that it softens the blow to the steel and catches frag. I'd love to see you run this test so i can direct him to your Administrative Results.

@BuffRANGE Жыл бұрын

A level IIIA kevlar panel is not going to slow down rifle rounds. Frags that become dangerous on steel come out the sides of the plate. If you don't cover the sides, putting a IIIA panel in front isn't going to do anything. That's why many of the popular migtigation systems use a sleeve.

@cookncrook6902 Жыл бұрын

If anything I’d recommend running the level IIIA soft armor behind the steel. It will soften the blow to the ribs and possibly catch anything that passes through the plate. Key word possibly either way it would be better than nothing behind the plate or using a trauma pad not rated to stop anything.

@yobrodontshoot1130 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been taught to put the soft armour _behind_ the plate, as it protects from shards coming through the plate, spalling, and deformations.

@BuffRANGE Жыл бұрын

@@yobrodontshoot1130 It doesn't protect from fragmentation coming out the sides of the plate though...

@yobrodontshoot1130 Жыл бұрын

@@BuffRANGE You win some you lose some, you try your best not to get hit. Armour isn’t a magic answer to getting hit, it just increases the chances you go home. Also can’t stop every bump and bruise in a gunfight. I was merely taught to put soft behind hard, and the reason why seemed logically sound.

@lordinch8282 Жыл бұрын

Seeing the thumbnail I thought "Well, both will stop your heart and lungs getting turned into ground beef" Shrapnel going elsewhere is kind of an after throught at that threat level lol but going into this Im guessing either one will work wonders catching all that as long as it has a proper rubber coating and wont just let everything bounce everywhere.

@tealsolgaurd7304 Жыл бұрын

Best ad award goes to you my friend lol 😂

@defaultdummy245 Жыл бұрын

Moral of the story: don't cheap out on armor. Buy calls on AAPL by the way.

@matchesburn Жыл бұрын

"Don't cheap out on armor" I mean... RMA 1155 plates are cheaper than most AR500 plate options. I think the bigger moral of the story is: "Use the right tool for the right job in the right way." If you buy an AR500 plate and put a protective kevlar covering over it... Well... Problem solved. Yet ceramics are still going to be more comfortable to wear and be lighter for most people. And... I have yet to meet anyone that's getting shot *_so much_* that they have simply "have" to have the longevity of use of steel armor. I mean, if you're getting shot so much that you somehow require more durability than multi-shot rated Level III+/Level IV ceramic armor... I mean... You probably have more pressing issues than what brand and kind of armor you're wearing.

@latetodagame1892 Жыл бұрын

Or duct tape!

@Ellienollie Жыл бұрын

What expiration date?

@Furiouspenguin27 Жыл бұрын

@@matchesburn to be fair though, if your use case is a worst case scenario plate where you can’t just replace it when you go home or back to base steel seems like it would be the better option, surviving an extended engagement or operation

@KoishiVibin Жыл бұрын

@@matchesburn I think at point of steel durability becoming an issue, fragment resistant shield usually suffer failure. also, steel v50 and v0 significantly lower than ceramic. while ceramic is possible to suffer high power load and still remain unwounded, if hurting, steel plate has notable problem of folding to faster threat.

@Me-bt4ye Жыл бұрын

Demonetized in so many awesome ways

@schrodingersgat4344 Жыл бұрын

I'm subbed to gun channels from all over. Kinda fucked up, how many ads get played on Pakistani shooting videos. Not that they don't earn it, but damn. Charity starts at home.

@strokernut Жыл бұрын

Fantastic, very informative!

@conro7003 Жыл бұрын

This video thoroughly entertained me. You have earned a like and subscribe my masked friend.

@yupikgaming4503 Жыл бұрын

It would be interesting seeing you hit some poverty pony shit like the ceramic poly VISM(a division of NcStar) plates that aren’t even NIJ certified

@robertpatter5509 Жыл бұрын

Oh no. Not NcStar.

@yupikgaming4503 Жыл бұрын

@@robertpatter5509 I mean I’d imagine a bunch of airsoft LARPers liked NcStar 😎

@robertpatter5509 Жыл бұрын

@@yupikgaming4503 and Barska

@Austin-jl5pb Жыл бұрын

Mrgunsngear does some tests on em like botachs ceramic plates. They can eat a shit ton of rounds.

@yupikgaming4503 Жыл бұрын

@@Austin-jl5pb it’s why I brought it up, also VISM is available from places like Optics Planet so it’s easier for people to digest buying it instead from a random website that might be a card phisher

@JL-ef7bh Жыл бұрын

Now I’m wondering what the effects of the bullet would be when it goes through the magazine with ammunition and into the plate.

@nebick27 Жыл бұрын

I always find these tests lack real-use wear situations just like that. Would be a blast to see

@bfgsnyky2307 Жыл бұрын

Demo ranch probably has a video like that

@HandleHandle123 Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if it was him or garand thumb that already tested this, along with if your rifle would stop a bullet.

@autisticANDarmed Жыл бұрын

@@HandleHandle123 garand thumb tested if your gun would stop a bullet, and demo ranch did the loaded mag test.

@JL-ef7bh Жыл бұрын

@@autisticANDarmed shit now imma look for that video. Thanks.

@johnrice1943 Жыл бұрын

How did you know i finished eating my coffee and opened a beer while watching? You know me so well lol

@IMP-vi6je Жыл бұрын

This is a beautiful combination of comedy and guns

@MoH_Dank Жыл бұрын

The Guard Dog Spall Liner sleeve is amazing. I put a bare steel target in the sleeve and shot it with Winchester green tip out of a 16" barrel at 25yrd and it caught almost 20 rounds of spall before shredding and not being effective

@Leep_Actual Жыл бұрын

And if you get shot 20 fucking times you're having a bad day boss

@MoH_Dank Жыл бұрын

@@Leep_Actual it's completely unrealistic but I just kept going till it failed. It was already not going to be used after the first round anyway, if anything does ever happen it will probably be a few rounds tops. I wasn't going to use the steel armor I already bought if it didn't work and theyre only 40$ so it was well worth the confidence boost to shred one then buy two more.

@MoH_Dank Жыл бұрын

@Brooklyn Boi what are you some kind of poor? Sure I did? LMAO everyone has steel targets and the liners are only $40 so why not just shoot one to make sure it works before you put it in your vest???

@gromit848 Жыл бұрын

Just concreted my decision to get the guard dog liners. 👍🏻

@GeauxRussGeaux Жыл бұрын

This is just poverty justification with extra steps.

@devate1375 Жыл бұрын

"its not the armor that kills you, its the bullets that go through it" , sun tsu(probably)

@sturmtiger7704 10 ай бұрын

No body: Big pointy sticks: Am I a joke to you?

@firstnamelastname6216 Жыл бұрын

Dude, you're freakin' hilarious lol. Saw you on GT's channel. 👍✌

@tomatotruck Жыл бұрын

Was just watching Demos new steel armor video and YT recommended this next. I love this community!

@MusicalWeasel Жыл бұрын

So what I’m taking away from this is don’t get shot multiple times with either types of armor.

@holow3038 Жыл бұрын

Just don't get shot

@ccmtn8912 Жыл бұрын

Damn! You know me to well lol so I just subscribed

@joshuaseigler6935 Жыл бұрын

When he said I know your watching this taking a dump I took that personally 😂😂 wizard

@L33T_Taco Жыл бұрын

What i was told from an armor person was pick armor with this mindset 1. If you want to stop a bunch of rounds and take multiple hits, buy steel (pay extra for anti-spalling coatings if want to) 2. If you want to be lighter, comfortable and have the spare money to spend and are not expecting to get into a multiperson firefight (Private Security, Concealed armor etc.) and really just want something for a possible 1v1 encounter, buy Ceramic, it will stop the first initial shots and allow you to be more comfortable and menueverable whilst sacrificing strength over all (which ceramics can still stop 1 to 2 308 rounds at lvl4) 3. For picking your level armor, try to base your choice around the ammo you yourself will be carrying when you use the armor... if your just got a sidearm/conceal carry then Level 1-2 would be fine, if your prepping for SHTF scenerios or are using long guns, get yourself Level 3 or Level 4 if you can get ahold of some. If oyur lookign to min/max then there is Special Threat class armor as well thats kinda a well rounded "unofficial" class of armor. 4. DONT BE AFRAID TO SPEND GOOD MONEY FOR GOOD ARMOR this shit is meant to save your life dont cheap out of armor from random sites costing 50$....

@L33T_Taco Жыл бұрын

@@lolshtf8531 no. I did not say buy steel if you think you'll need it. I said buy steel if you wanna stop more shots. Generally ceramic will be a lot more expensive than steel because of cuts/shape and weight. All I'm saying is don't cheap out on either selection because steel does get expensive and I was more pointing out that there are very cheap listings/ads for like 50-100 dollar armor plates that are level 3+ to 4 where the advertising video looks sketchy, and also it's like a Facebook ad....buy from a reputable place.

@ninja5672 Жыл бұрын

I don't like steel armor, but your previous video only showed serious injury to the dummy on the first 5.56 round that hit right on the top edge of the plate and ricocheted upward. Yes, a kevlar bag would help.

@rmkutti1253 Жыл бұрын

2:28 That skull aint no mistake thats just your brand new patented realistic zombie head I am so impressed by the creativity of this channel

@westtexas3041 Жыл бұрын

Great test. Thank you.

@phil__e_cheesesteak5024 Жыл бұрын

Personally I think both plates should have gotten swapped out between the 5.56x45 and the 7.62x39. I understand how that would be prohibitively expensive

@jackjewett8358 Жыл бұрын

Our days have been maybe better thanks to this man, keep it up admin

@jjones2193 Жыл бұрын

I had no idea Garand Thumb had a little brother, or that he had a KZfaq channel. Subscribing for sure!

@Creminson Жыл бұрын

Just found this Chanel and I already like this guy

@mortem-tyrannis Жыл бұрын

I took steel and bought carbon fiber 4inx12ft sheet and used gorilla glue spray adhesive and made a very very good spall coating. First one horizontal and then vertical and made all the edges thicker to a kind of deflect or catch more instead of going towards my neck or arms. I tested it and it seems to work well.

@Zoraxon Жыл бұрын

I bought ceramic plates and haven't had to worry about it

@mortem-tyrannis Жыл бұрын

@@Zoraxon good for you, statistically there's not enough gain value from going from steel to ceramic the weights not that much better or the protection if you go from steel to the high molecular polyethylene that's a different story. But you do you.

@Zoraxon Жыл бұрын

I do wanna get some UHMWPE plates, but that'll be a minute. Also, ruck with plates and tell me ounces don't make pounds

@missfire9480 Жыл бұрын

@@Zoraxon I ruck with Steel for training. Every day in 100+ is a reminder to buy ceramics and a better carrier. But hey, train hard work easy.

@mortem-tyrannis Жыл бұрын

@Brooklyn Boi spoken like a true douchebag, materialistic much? I guess peoples value only comes from the dollar amount in their Bank, never mind if someone like myself who served four years done two deployments just isn't worth anything. Lol it would be hurtful, maybe if you were worth anything or held any value to me but you don't.

@bungholio1586 Жыл бұрын

Here’s my sacrifice to Moloc…..I mean the algorithm gods for the balaclava boi.

@williambell7763 Жыл бұрын

Same same

@lineuptheshot6406 Жыл бұрын

Love the Malcom in the middle reference "there's asbestos in the ceiling"

@BobbyB910 Жыл бұрын

This is my first episode……love it

@justhitreset858 Жыл бұрын

If you want to do the same test but much cheaper, use a ballistics gelatin cube in place of the head. Just set one of the corners facing forward to more closely simulate the frontal angles of a human head a bit. Plus you could just rotate it for a clean portion to continue testing. Having bone structure won't make much difference as you're only trying to show that spalling is happening and that it can cause damage, not that it will penetrate the skull.

@Behappyyou43 Жыл бұрын

Administrative results is becoming one of the most honest guntubbers. Not bought out.

@Rxzzler Жыл бұрын

“Hey do you want more armor” PERHAPS

@Kazkrin Жыл бұрын

Amounts of references are stunning.

@drankdropea6713 Жыл бұрын

I'd ask for partial return on those jelly bois, they should mail it with some sorts dryice or cool gell pack.

@eyyylmao8016 Жыл бұрын

Hell of an intro! 10/10

@aaronwilson1666 Жыл бұрын

Subscribed. Carry on Sir.

@trackpackgt877 9 ай бұрын

That's steel is very impressive The spall lining on steel plates it's only made it take 3 or 4 rounds before it starts to separate the plate itself can take dozens if not hundreds but the spall liner can only take so many before the spalling starts hitting the person. very impressed with the steel plates it took way more abuse then I would ever imagine and if you're getting hit that many times you need to be moving. thanks for the video it helped me decide to get steel mainly because no expiration date.

@kylebar724 Жыл бұрын

If you are gonna go steel. Look for company with good coating then add a spall liner. Guarddog has a great liner. I run steel only for the shelf life reason for SHTF situation. If my job would involve potentially getting shot at. Then yea I'd spend the money on ceramic.

@1683clifton Жыл бұрын

If you're taking that many, you're in the wrong place to begin with.

@matchesburn Жыл бұрын

"No, no. The first 6 rounds of 9x19 and 4 rounds of 77 grain OTMs were just a suggestion that I might be doing something wrong."

@swegmastur614 Жыл бұрын

@@matchesburn warning shots

@minhducnguyen9276 Жыл бұрын

That's how you become robocop.

@wolfsfroth Жыл бұрын

Wrong Place at Wrong Time is my Native American name. Just ‘Wrong’ for short

@designertonio5801 Жыл бұрын

can you buy bulletproof vests off amazon?

@AgentMeech Жыл бұрын

1:05 Me: “URRRGGGHH HOW’D HE KNOW I WAS PUSHIN ONE OUT RIGHT NOW??”

@jasongouffray4202 Жыл бұрын

For me it’s the durability and longevity of the steel that wins in the end. A 20 year steel plate protects just as good as a 5 year ceramic, just for 15 more years. The spalling thing was interesting as well. Definitely important to switch plates out after taking rounds. But one thing I have heard first hand from an operator: no matter the material it’s made of, you take a hit to the plates, you’re going down. Just some plates have a better chance of not breaking a bone on the other side than others.

@AJuniorOutdoorsman Жыл бұрын

Ceramics dont expire after 5 years, manufacturers have a warranty period of 5-15 years. This is not an expiration date. Modern ceramics are made of inert materials that do not expire unless you are letting it sit in a bucket of sweat at high temperatures for prolonged periods of time.

@justesbadua3965 Жыл бұрын

Don't hurt yourself Pauly. Even after a bullet or two you can get very bad spalling. The worst point of steel armor is when you get penetrated, the bullet will throw all that steel it blasted through into you. Steel also doesn't absorb shock like ceramic does, leading you to getting thrown to the floor and breaking a rib.

@patrickhenderson488 Жыл бұрын

Steel will direct the force outward if it is curved. most ceramic armor will actually cave in and have lots of backface deformation and can cave in your lungs. no armor is going to feel good when you get hit but I'd rather fall over than have my lungs collapse.

@justesbadua3965 Жыл бұрын

@@patrickhenderson488 no what will happen is that the impact will cause the other side of the plate to spall and ceramic armor absorbs the energy of the impact so you won't get your lungs fucked up.

@AJuniorOutdoorsman Жыл бұрын

@@patrickhenderson488 modern ceramic armor has strict BFD standards. Any bfd less than 44mm should cause minimal damage while most credible manufacturers go for less than 15mm of BFD. Steel doesnt transfer the energy outwards, it directly transfers through it.

@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray Жыл бұрын

*LESSON LEARNED:* Of *_ALL_* things to cheap out on . . . your body armor is *_NOT_* one of them

@Engineeringpreparedness86 Жыл бұрын

Run the steel armor through the “gambit.” Interesting context there. 😂😂

@TiagoSantos-tt4ki Жыл бұрын

That intro...is mind blowing!

@joelatkinson2080 Жыл бұрын

Great video!!!

@mr_soap9613 Жыл бұрын

I was like "Is he shooting the back of the head?" BUT then I was like "indeed he is"

@vincentcocchio3450 Жыл бұрын

That opening shot with the FAL

@daniel-johnson_dam Жыл бұрын

Thanks that was a truly mind blowing intro Now my little brother will never annoy me again

@brandongibbs3016 10 ай бұрын

The best admin is a masked one

@sizemore4585 Жыл бұрын

My man Admin out here telling the truth about Spalding! The threat from sports equipment is real my fellow Kings. Stay EZ, stay Breezy, stay vigilant.

@CenturionsDavaoAirsoft Жыл бұрын

I haven't seen any steel armor manufacturer incorporate a steel "rim" along the edges of a plate and runs flush with the bed liner coating (whatever they call it). In theory, the "rim" may at least stop or deflect bullet fragments away from the wearer's limbs, neck, and face.

@trechtzach8151 Жыл бұрын

Way back in the day have been, but the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

@IsaacLekwot Жыл бұрын

love your content bro

@GENERALLEE886 Жыл бұрын

"Gentlemen I know your sitting on the toilet" I literally lost it lol

@trogo24 Жыл бұрын

Great videos as always. I used to do security for AR500 up off the i17 was there in the evenings to mid night once all night. Over night was way to quite there.