Adressing the RIDICULOUS HATE towards VCHA

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kpop lemon

kpop lemon

10 ай бұрын

In this video I want to talk about some points of critique that are given often towards VCha and see, if these points are valid or just some mindless hate.
#a2k #jyp #vcha

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@9cloudrachel207
@9cloudrachel207 9 ай бұрын
People like to forget that this wasn’t a competition where the girls were against each other. There was no set debut number. If JYP wanted to debut Gina and Christina he would have. It wasn’t Kendall vs Gina. The kids going around spreading this hate need to shut the hell up and take a lesson in critical thinking. Pay attention in school and learn some stuff instead of spreading your ignorance online
@PedroTawa
@PedroTawa 9 ай бұрын
My favorites didn’t make the cut but the image makes sense in the final line up. Jyp stated in the show several times that he was not looking for perfection so we will look forward to their improvement over the years.
@dl-ce3so
@dl-ce3so 10 ай бұрын
Putting together a girl group is like putting together a basketball team. Each position requires a different skill set. Gina and Cristina may have been more talented, but Kendall was a better fit for the specific role that JYP had in mind.
@SWalkerTTU
@SWalkerTTU 10 ай бұрын
This is a pretty good analogy.
@GalvEnzo
@GalvEnzo 10 ай бұрын
Singing can be improved and Kendall's ability to convey emotions is something you cannot teach. I know Kendall will prove the haters wrong.
@sean7891233
@sean7891233 10 ай бұрын
At last … someone who talks sense … thank you !
@anistardi
@anistardi 10 ай бұрын
At that time, Gina can only express a happy songs. She need more experiences in her life. Everyone mature mentally at different age.
@KPOPCoverDanceFan
@KPOPCoverDanceFan 10 ай бұрын
@@GalvEnzo This is what I want to say. JYP chose Kendall in a style that he think would fit the best, and star quality is not something that can be taught. Foreigners who do not understand must have watched JYP's a2k audition without focusing. And they are sure they have never auditioned for another JYP audition. I've been listening to JYP's reviews since the "KPOP Star Audition", "Nizi project audition" etc so it's a very natural choice. 😂
@treinhertneat4940
@treinhertneat4940 10 ай бұрын
Kendall is the group's visual from the start (for me)... And she showed an enormous potential from the start of A2K than another girl who needed to climb bit by bit. It always happens on survival shows.
@marialinguist
@marialinguist 10 ай бұрын
Preach. She suits the concepts more than eliminated girls. Her dancing is amazing with an improved live vocal!
@keishirok3507
@keishirok3507 10 ай бұрын
@@evevity the thing with kpop is - it's almost inherently superficial at first because the visuals of the MVs, dances and not least the idols are what lures the mainstream in, so having a visual with charismatic expressions such as Kendall is very much necessary for a wider success. She is also very eloquent and is a huge benefit to them for social media presence.
@Schroberry
@Schroberry 10 ай бұрын
@@evevity visual is a huge part of KPOP...because if you are not into visuals you'd be somewhere else. Don't be a hypocrite. Visual is not a talent but it draws in money. Kpop is an entertainment BUSINESS. I do not like Kendall at all, I am okay with her being in the group IF Christina and Gina were in it too (I am not even a fan of Gina and Christina but I feel bitter towards the group because of them. My bias are Savannah and Kaylee.
@Schroberry
@Schroberry 10 ай бұрын
@@marialinguist they have no 'concept'...it is generic pop. Christina, Gina, Yuna, Mischa would have fit in.
@PoussinNoNeko
@PoussinNoNeko 9 ай бұрын
I don't think people understand the K-Pop industry... You need visuals to form a K-Pop group, otherwise they most likely would not succeed. Mamamoo is less successful than BP or Twice, because they are less appealing, though they are a lot more talented. If you go look at their fancams for their MusicCore performance (230923), Kendall has the most views after Kaylee. Like someone said, it's a bit hypocrite to criticize less talented visual members when the whole point of K-Pop is their visual + their music, their overall performance and charisma is so much more important than their actual skills. And in the case of Kendall, she's a better performer than the rest.
@lexushinez
@lexushinez 10 ай бұрын
thank u so much for the kind video on the girls
@anyameowie
@anyameowie 10 ай бұрын
Literally just started a fanpage for kendall today what a crimeee
@ka-iz9nx
@ka-iz9nx 10 ай бұрын
Some people do not see the potential and unseen strength of contestants. JYP has long experience of selecting potential kpop artists.
@user-vo1ne3us7k
@user-vo1ne3us7k 9 ай бұрын
i agree... haters will always be there... i give all these girls credit for making it to the cut..they r having the time of their lives, so lets just cheer n enjoy the moment.its not bcha, its bchu
@anotherme4482
@anotherme4482 10 ай бұрын
About the name, It's all actually depend on what language the name based on and the meaning of it in that language. People have a choice to either be nasty about it by intentionally butchering the pronounciation and make fun of it or be open about the fact that there are many languages in the world and some words with similar pronounciation just have completely different meaning between languages. Although i do think that JYP is being careless about it as the group is branded as a Global group and the international language is english. They should've pay more attention to how or what the name would sound like in english. Just to minimalize how nasty people will turn the name into something unpleasant.
@Vidaminhavidadura
@Vidaminhavidadura 10 ай бұрын
I love this group, and yea Kendall deserves to be there ❤❤ My only complain is about the name vcha, I’m from Brazil so … it sound bicha which is a very nasty way to call a gay person, not good at all. But I think JYP thought about knetz, since they think the name “stray kids” it’s hard to pronunciation but easy for English speakers, I bet they wanted something easy for both sides …
@gilbertquintanar7160
@gilbertquintanar7160 10 ай бұрын
You are entitled to your opinion just as we all are. I do believe that the parents of all of these girls is watched very closely by their parents and if their health or wellbeing is put at risk you can definitely bet that the parents will intervene. Standards with respect to body image is quite different from Korea and the USA ap0p and Asian cultures tend to have lower percent body fat and lean muscle mass. Those in the K industry should not get involved unless they are registered and board-certified doctors or dieticians.
@sailorkeyblader
@sailorkeyblader 10 ай бұрын
This!!!! All of this!!!!
@sailorkeyblader
@sailorkeyblader 10 ай бұрын
In other words, STOP TALKING ABOUT WOMEN'S BODIES especially Teenage girls
@SomeOnce9
@SomeOnce9 9 ай бұрын
remember this kids: Talent is not born; it can be cultivated with passion, motivation, patience and practice. so stop hating on people who works hard for it.
@ninasign5495
@ninasign5495 10 ай бұрын
Kaylee is almost 14 people need to chill. It was her goal it’s pathetic to crush a kids dream. Obviously her parents believed she could do this or she wouldn’t be doing it, and they know her best.
@VioletaKca
@VioletaKca 9 ай бұрын
And she understands the industry well too
@Leo-nh9ui
@Leo-nh9ui 9 ай бұрын
Well jyp could have just said. Ok you are to young but once you are a bit older we would like for you to train in jyp. Its not the end of the world thats what i would do as a kpop ceo. Waiting wouldnt have changed her goal or her dream. And i feel like knowing the risk and really going through them is different. You may know you get cyber bullied, fat shamed, not allowed to date etc. But omce you experience thousands of people criticising you its a different experience. And nit picking things you can't change about yourself. Adults already struggle with that in this industry. But i still wish her the best and hope that jyp will do the right protective measures to ensure her safety
@muzikizfun
@muzikizfun 10 ай бұрын
Love and hate are an interesting phenomenon in music. I like it as explained by Simon Cowell from the time he was talking about a performance. He said: "Some people will absolutely hate it, and there be others that will love it. But that is a good place to because it says you're not boring and irrelevant." There will always fans and antifans. The fans listen and buy the music. The antifan does neither, so their hate and them are irrelevant.
@fraeofficial
@fraeofficial 10 ай бұрын
- Kendall - is visual and JY Park's bias. She's got potential, but talent wise she is the weakest and has the longest to come. - I first heard "overweight" used towards Savannah, but they all are relatively the same body type except Kendall and Kaylee because she's a child. American women in general weigh more compared to a lot of the world so I understand that aspect. Still, none of them are fat. - VCHA - meh. name is whatever. - As for Kaylee - I'm going to be a bit controversial. IT'S THE PARENTS. Stop acting like these COMPANIES are the ones that have the obligation to the child. I know people seem to forget this, BUT COMPANIES GOALS ARE TOO MAKE MONEY THE BEST WAY THEY CAN. They are NOT the parents to their employees AND YES idols ARE EMPLOYEES for the company. JY Park's role is to scout talent and make them the best they can be FOR THE COMPANY'S SUCCESS. If you have a problem with it, TALK TO THE PARENTS WHO SENT HER TO BE INVOLVED. OTHER THOUGHTS - Gina is talented, but I feel nothing when watching her. I looked at her debut song and felt the same. She's robotic. Cristina was just bland. She didn't stick out except that talent episode where she song her original song. Other than that, she was the only one of the contestants that I had to actually look up her name to remember. She's has talent! She just needs to work on standing out more. Final THOUGHTS: The line up works well. Everybody that I wanted to make it did and we got Kendall too lol I hope KG gets to flex some song writing skills in their actual debut.
@fraeofficial
@fraeofficial 9 ай бұрын
*EDIT I was wrong. Cristina did NOT sing the song. That was Melissa! The fact that I couldn't remember anything noteworthy about Cristina says a lot. So I'm still OK with her not being chosen. OH ALSO How tf are people talking about Gina should have been picked and then are complaining about Kaylee being so young!? They are the SAME AGE!
@liluscia
@liluscia 10 ай бұрын
my opinions on these topics: - I used to didn't like Kendall, she didn't really stuck out to me as much as the other girls, and just overall had a bad impression on her, since JYP was legit praising her 24/7, but my god, when VCHA did their music core show, KENDALL REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME, I only keep looking at her parts and she improved sooo much! also I loved her interactions in their QnA and instagram live. - their bodytypes are very different from the korean (ridiculous underweight) standard and I'm so glad they are! with their influence they can definitely change the standard, also they are muscular! very fit, and DEFINITELY not overweight! - I still don't like VCHA, I got used to it but I genuinely don't like it - Kaylee is sooo young and I definitely feel like she should've waited, also I realized she is the most likely to get embarrassed of herself (in their reaction to the MV especially) because again, she is barely a teen, so it's normal.
@9cloudrachel207
@9cloudrachel207 9 ай бұрын
yesssssss kendall im so happy you felt that watching them on music core lol. too bad you don't like the group tho. i enjoyed reading your opinions!!
@defnotsmoj6760
@defnotsmoj6760 10 ай бұрын
Someone doing gods work. Must protect these girls!
@nonbase4970
@nonbase4970 9 ай бұрын
For me,I think it's goodluck that Kendall got into group cause after watching Her old video from way back 2016 I think,That's the time that I understand JYP thoughs about Kendall "SHE'S UNIQUE"✨ AND MORE IMPORTANT SHE'S A GENIUS cause She can do almost everything ESPECIALLY HER ARTISTIC ABILITY THAT BEING SELF TAUGHT SHE SAID that's why I'm curious about Her IQ level,SHE LEARN SO FAST AND THAT WILL MADE HER ALL AROUNDER IN THE FUTURE❤❤❤
@carorivas8357
@carorivas8357 9 ай бұрын
Let´s face it, am not hating anyone but Kendall is just the visual...they even said it on the final evaluation huddle...With that being said she really needs to improve the vocals since she is struggling still with allergies and stuff..but she can be out next Lisa but from Vcha
@congtycpcongnghekitchenloo7520
@congtycpcongnghekitchenloo7520 9 ай бұрын
Kendall vocal has improved and sounds great. She has the dancing and stage presence. She's a star
@carorivas8357
@carorivas8357 9 ай бұрын
@@congtycpcongnghekitchenloo7520 she always was a spirited dancer, she Just needs time to become better. Have you heard the live vocals of Y.OUniverse? She sounds unstable compared to the other girls on the group. BUT she can become better I know.
@SWalkerTTU
@SWalkerTTU 10 ай бұрын
Janey debuted with GP Basic in 2010 at age 11.
@dokessezeaka5159
@dokessezeaka5159 9 ай бұрын
My biggest concern about this group was how are the girls going to school, other than Camilla everyone is under 18 , are they gonna do their ged or go to an international school in Korea? will they be based in Korea or America?
@m_starcutie8198
@m_starcutie8198 8 ай бұрын
I don't think Kaylee's age is a problem I'm 14 to and i wanna began a kpop idol so if she thinks she can do it and if she really wanna do it it's ok perhaps many idols debuted between 14 and 15 like Jungkook of BTS and no one ever complained about Jungkook age in there début according to my research and if i had the same opportunity as her I'll let no one stopped me and don't forget that she as parents and I'm sure they have talked and have an eye on what the industry will do with the group
@elesaharrington
@elesaharrington 9 ай бұрын
Not acknowledging Kendall’s pretty privilege is asinine and it’s not even an ‘opinion’
@handominicano5841
@handominicano5841 8 ай бұрын
its not her fault tho
@hyuncore_yt6390
@hyuncore_yt6390 10 ай бұрын
Its kinda interesting when speaking of age I'm older than all the members of Vcha because im currently 18 years old lol
@sinnopal1
@sinnopal1 9 ай бұрын
These girls got so much hate from koreans...
@knightofasshole
@knightofasshole 9 ай бұрын
people not wanting kaylee to debut bc of her age, but wanted gina, who is the same age, instead of kendall 💀 make it make sense
@laegume
@laegume 8 ай бұрын
2:26 It's not a cultural thing though, it's a toxic beauty standard. And to project that onto young girls, I agree is ridiculous.
@JayTsunamii
@JayTsunamii 10 ай бұрын
finally, some truth!
@r3x.x3r
@r3x.x3r 10 ай бұрын
I didnt watch the full A2K episodes. I seen some clips, I’m gonna say they picked the last member perfectly. JYP going towards youthful vibe for this group, I dont think Gina fits right in cos she looks matured compared to the other members so is Christina.
@Cchaeins
@Cchaeins 10 ай бұрын
But Gina was literally the youngest with kaylee
@SWalkerTTU
@SWalkerTTU 10 ай бұрын
@@Cchaeins Could’ve fooled a lot of people, me included.
@r3x.x3r
@r3x.x3r 10 ай бұрын
@@Cchaeins idk if she’s the 2nd youngest but she looked like in her 20s ngl
@nunugirlswag109
@nunugirlswag109 9 ай бұрын
Now how about you actually go watch the episodes and see if your opinion stays the same. Just saying, it’s like watching clips of a movie or show you’ve never seen before and you think you understand the plot and everything that has happened but really you don’t 🤷🏾‍♀️
@lylacampbell4922
@lylacampbell4922 9 ай бұрын
I don’t think Kendall is untalented I just think she still had places that needed improvement like vocals which is one of the post important things you need as a Kpop idol, so I think Kendall should’ve not debuted so she could stay a trainee and improve, then soon she will be ready to debut with improved vocals (no hate towards her just my opinion)
@user-em1vw8to8g
@user-em1vw8to8g 5 ай бұрын
Vcha them debuting made me realize i should shoot my shots at becoming kpop star 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭.
@ryanduz
@ryanduz 9 ай бұрын
kaylees age is fine as long as they monitor her and keep her in check
@alanbarracchia8728
@alanbarracchia8728 10 ай бұрын
Están a la altura de BP cantando en vivo jajaja
@ceci9933
@ceci9933 9 ай бұрын
honestly savanna is so pretty she is up to standard with kpop idols all the way, just a bit differently
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmooooooooo
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmooooooooo 10 ай бұрын
If they were to rename their name it should be like PRISM, PRIZM, or PRIZZM, it still deals with light and also light that comes in all shades of the rainbow. I'm actually shocked there's no kpop group called PRISM yet lol
@fecktor
@fecktor 10 ай бұрын
Ah but I'm happy to let you know that there was a 4-members kpop group named PRISM, under the "LCH Entertainment" company. :) They were active from 2018 to 2021, when they disbanded (along with the company itself!). They had a total of two digital singles: "CHOK", and "Burn It Up". If you're curious you can look these MVs up on KZfaq! :)
@user-iz6um7rw4y
@user-iz6um7rw4y 10 ай бұрын
한국 사람이 제일 좋아하는 켄덜 사바나 왜 한국인이 아이들을 비난하는것 처럼 말하지?
@bambiibambiya
@bambiibambiya 10 ай бұрын
anyway vcha supporter 4life
@audreysbr
@audreysbr 10 ай бұрын
what does vcha means in other languages??
@kpoplemon7385
@kpoplemon7385 10 ай бұрын
Not necessarily "VCha", but a person mentioned that "Bcha" (or something similar) refers to "B*tch" in a way. But please someone correct me, If I'm wrong!
@niawithguitar
@niawithguitar 10 ай бұрын
Vcha means "to illuminate" if you see the last episode of a2k, jyp explains it
@kpoplemon7385
@kpoplemon7385 10 ай бұрын
@@niawithguitar yes, in korean it means this. You're right!
@dallasmac
@dallasmac 10 ай бұрын
Same question.
@andreajaeger1679
@andreajaeger1679 10 ай бұрын
In what language?
@rkhandle
@rkhandle 9 ай бұрын
If only they had included Gina...
@Matthew-sl8dx
@Matthew-sl8dx 9 ай бұрын
ok but by this logic every person ever on this planet as "potential".... obviously anyone ever will improve with practice it doesnt make kendall any more special. shes just not on the same level and its a fact... can we stop glazing this girl
@ikihiyori2855
@ikihiyori2855 10 ай бұрын
Tbh, those people who have negative remarks should just keep those to themselves. If they don't like any of them, they can just don't say it or they can don't even support them. What's the purpose of saying it? You want them to suffer or you want them to suicide??🙄
@onepunchman4481
@onepunchman4481 9 ай бұрын
ok fine then... Kendall has potential but KG really did not deserve to be part of the debut lineup.
@elesaharrington
@elesaharrington 9 ай бұрын
I honestly agree. She should be a soloist…
@anistardi
@anistardi 10 ай бұрын
They improved a lot at short times. Their skill is better than most of Twice members at their debut. They have more chance to success in western countries, because South Korean taste are weird.
@anncosmoo
@anncosmoo 10 ай бұрын
Overweighted is the stupidest thing I had to read. They look healthy and fit.
@Syrin23
@Syrin23 10 ай бұрын
My only REAL issue is they screwed Gina.
@fuevue2913
@fuevue2913 10 ай бұрын
I thought the name was clever because they will already reach success in America and the Western world, so they might as well reach the Korean and Asian community more strongly by having their group name be Korean.
@paulmetzler1946
@paulmetzler1946 9 ай бұрын
1. Kaylee is 14 not 13 3. JIHYO of twice was 12 AT JYP 3. ALL THE GIRL'S BODIES GREAT 4. Christina GO OTHER AGENCIES 5. THERE FIRST SONG HAS JUST TURNED INTERNATIONAL HIT 6. U DON'T KNOW WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT DIDDYBOPER ♥️💝💖💕😇🙏
@c.lineofficial
@c.lineofficial 9 ай бұрын
Kaylee turns 14 this year in November. Unless you're going by the Korean age system.
@muilin1235
@muilin1235 9 ай бұрын
Kendall talent really is questionable tbh no hate but it’s the truth
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 10 ай бұрын
I like the name but the logotype looks rushed and should have been executed a lot better.
@sarahg6551
@sarahg6551 9 ай бұрын
y’all can say what you like but gina and cristina should’ve been in the group instead of kg and kendall. gina’s vocals are just as good as kg’s AND she can dance, and cristina is just as good if not better than kendall when it comes to performance as well as being way better at rapping. kg and kendall were jyp’s little favorites from the beginning and since they had similar “roles” to cristina and gina, they ended up making it instead. talented or not, it was a very disappointing end to the show.
@icxykawaii
@icxykawaii 10 ай бұрын
Are you french?
@kpoplemon7385
@kpoplemon7385 10 ай бұрын
No, I'm from Germany!
@sajh0000
@sajh0000 10 ай бұрын
????????
@sumitdang1883
@sumitdang1883 5 ай бұрын
FF
@sean7891233
@sean7891233 9 ай бұрын
Vcha was not a great choice of name …
@hufflepuffxlovex
@hufflepuffxlovex 9 ай бұрын
People body shaming are actually ridiculous. Savana is probably the fittest of them all being a gymnast. That girl is ALL muscle. Its crazy you brought up Vcha in spanish cause in my culture (El Salvador) thats just another word for girl LOL bicha so idk which latin word you're refering too 😅
@enoch7564
@enoch7564 10 ай бұрын
Ngl it kinda seemed like the contestants themselves didn't really like kendal during the show.
@SWalkerTTU
@SWalkerTTU 10 ай бұрын
I think that changed as they all became more familiar.
@Polkavona
@Polkavona 10 ай бұрын
Did we watch the same show??? She just looks shy 😭😭
@GalvEnzo
@GalvEnzo 10 ай бұрын
Saying that they didn't like her is such a reach. She's just quiet and shy but you can tell the other girls can vibe with her especially as the show went on
@sumitdang1883
@sumitdang1883 5 ай бұрын
VCHA KENDALL IS NOT TALENTED
@kebonolomohlala-dl1ku
@kebonolomohlala-dl1ku 10 ай бұрын
You just hate her because you don't like her
@bri.a2k
@bri.a2k 9 ай бұрын
vcha isnt actually a word in spanish lol, rather it sounds like a slang word that american born latinos use to say the b word but in a fun way lol
@kpoplemon7385
@kpoplemon7385 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this clear! I didn't found the right words in the video to describe what I've ment.
@katherinecarmona7848
@katherinecarmona7848 9 ай бұрын
Well, vicha sounds like the insect in Spanish. But the real reason is that in Puerto Rico and other Caribbean and South America countries we can say it as an insult as the male private part to a female, and that is why the name is so bad for us. The only difference is the v and b, but Hispanic never pronounce the v. It’s a bad word for us.
@warzy01
@warzy01 9 ай бұрын
I like the name!!! Vcha
@Dolyar
@Dolyar 10 ай бұрын
i liked them hehehe
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